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NASB	Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.
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Subject: will the world end soon

Bible Note: You write "I don't see anything-supernatural taking place in the tribulation. Everything that takes place during that period has been happening on the Earth for years, it is just intensified at that time. God's wrath is with Fire."

When God divinely appoints certain judgments to take place as He does with the seal, vial and trumpet juegments, and these judgments are referrred to as beginning when angels pour our bowls on the earth, blow trumpets, etc., these may be rightly called miraculuous events. Besides many of God's mircles in the OT involve the use of natural phenomena. This does not negate the miraculuous nature of these events.

You write "Remembering, it is man, and not God, who put in the chapter and verse divisions"

I'm not sure how that alters anything I wrote.

You write "It seems that Paul associates the rapture with the beginning of the "day of the Lord"... rapture then wrath! (Any "day of the Lord" passages in the Old Testament will describe it as a day of "wrath".)"

Rapture then wrath is exactly how it goes. The Rapture occurs before the day of wrath (events of the tribulation period).

The Antichrist may or may not be in place before the Rapture. By in place I mean a high governmental official, not as world ruler. Even if he is, we will not recognize him. Therefore his presence is not a sign which must occur before the Rapture.

Ypu write "It says here that it is the "day of the Lord" which comes "like a thief in the night," but if the rapture occurs immediately before it, that still raptures us out before God's wrath begins, and both would come as a thief in the night, right?"

If the day of the Lord you refer to is the tribulation period as a whole, yes.

You write "Denial's 70th week is not the tribulation period; it just runs concurrent with it. The tribulation is cut short at some point during the last half of the 70th week. The Lord will not cut the 70th week short, if He did it would not be a full week to make 70."

I see your point here; however, I cannot agree. It is not certain that the seventieth week is cut short. Some theorize that this would actually be a cutting short of the daylight hours.

Let me summarize my beliefs on this subject:
-the Rapture will occur immediately before the Tribulation. At this time the Bema judgment seat of Christ will take place to reward believers for their works.
-the Tribulation starts when the Antichrist signs a peace treaty with Israel which ma include the rebuilding of the temple.
-this is concurrent with the seventieth week as revealed to Daniel.
-the Tribulation is divided into two periods of three and one half years each--the tribulation (a terrible time of God's pouring out His wrath on the earth, and a time of persecution of Jewish believers and "tribulational saints") and the Great tribulation (the same as the tribulation but amplified greatly, plus the Antichrist breaks his treaty with Israel, puts his image in the Most Holy Place, and persecutes all of Israel.
-At the end of this time (seven years of 360 days)Christ returns with His saints to defeat His enemies, purify His temple, and begin His millennial reign. He casts Satan, AC and his false prophet into the lake of fire.
-1,000 years later Satan is released for a little time to tempt the world once more. He causes a war. Jesus defeats him once again, the Great White Throne judgment takes place, and eternity begins.

God bless.

In Christ,

koinekid

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