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NASB | Matthew 11:19 "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 11:19 "The Son of Man came eating and drinking [with others], and they say, 'Look! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners [including non-observant Jews]!' Yet wisdom is justified and vindicated by her deeds [in the lives of those who respond to Me]." |
Subject: Did Jesus ever drink wine? |
Bible Note: Dear Brother Tim, You said "The true value of his work is that he actually digs into the meanings of the words and doesn't just assume that anytime a word is translated 'wine' that it must refer to alcohol." Could you tell me what the definiation as you understand it is in this verse; the first of Jesus miracles. If you do not want to carry on this discussion Please let me know. These are my thoughts and if you do not want to discuss it please let me know. These are some things that bother me about the abstinence position. No where does the bible say do not drink wine. Period. If abstinence was what the bible intended I believe it would make that statement. The only conclusion I can draw from my studies is it definitely says do not get drunk. There is a big difference in abstinence and moderation. I believe the abstinence position is going beyond what scripture says. If a person is going to take the abstinence position why not take it from a cultural perspective rather than a biblical one. Many christians do not buy into the abstinence stance taken by many preachers and I believe this is what turns so many people off from going to church; getting beat over the head time after time about a subject that there is an ongoing debate in christianity about. It seems you as well as other preachers try to spin the fermentation, alcohol, words to try to make it seem that the verses do not say what they obviously say. What say you? Sister Val |