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NASB | Matthew 1:18 ¶ Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 1:18 ¶ Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by [the power of] the Holy Spirit. |
Subject: How far would you go in a translation? |
Bible Note: Hi Tim, I'm sorry if I have given you doubts about where I am going!:) I hope that we can have some conversations together even "later", brother. I want to talk about the information you have contributed about Matthew 1:20 being in the neuter, "for *that which has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." NASB, copyright 1977. "That which" has been changed to "the Child who" in the newest copy of the NASB. Originally when I talked with you I thought that that was a good change but when you introduced this information about the neuter gender I had second thoughts. Now I would agree with the old translation. l) I have agreed with kalos in the forum about the Holy Spirit not being an "it". He is a Person. You have said that you would have expected "that" to be masculine. Since it is neuter I think "it" is talking about the humanity of that which is in her of the Holy Spirit. Genesis 1:26, "Then (God) said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to **Our likeness...And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; MALE AND FEMALE He created them. And (God) blessed them;..." This does speak to the gender of God and His spirit. How can these things be? Perhaps you can speak about John 3:8, "The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit". 2)It also brings to my mind the question of whether the Holy Spirit as well as being a Person is also a power, an influence, a ghostly presence if you will. Can we not think of the spirits, the spirit, and also the holy spirit in terms of being an it? John 6:63, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life." [Jesus knew who it was that would betray Him] 3) John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld **His glory, glory as of the only begotten [Or, unique, only one of His kind] from the Father, full of grace and truth." Question: What is the gender here of the only begotten? Thanks again for your work here on the forum. Could you also comment on [the **One] "who is called Christ" in Matthew 1:16? From the heart, Ray |