Prior Book | Prior Chapter | Prior Verse | Next Verse | Next Chapter | Next Book | Viewing NASB and Amplified 2015 | |
NASB | Obadiah 1:4 "Though you build high like the eagle, Though you set your nest among the stars, From there I will bring you down," declares the LORD. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Obadiah 1:4 "Though you build [your nest] on high like the eagle, Though you set your nest among the stars, I will bring you down from there," says the LORD. |
Subject: Can mortals ascend into the heavens? |
Bible Note: Roger, I'm greatly attempting to better understand your position here. You seem to reference that you believe that the Word of God is complete, yet you also mention that there are certain subjects that scripture is not clear about. I guess that my understanding of what constitutes "complete" would be that the bible would contain the totality of all divine truth that may be potentially known in all the universe. Yet, I don't believe that this is the case with the written Word of God. The only "completeness" that I directly notice with the written scriptures is the completeness of the gospel message of eternal salvation. Namely, the bible is complete insofar as it contains the full message of the word and work of God's love and power unto eternal salvation, as authored and effected through Christ. However, in reference to most any other doctrine, I find the bible to be rather lacking. Perhaps I'll turn to commentaries to discover other matters beyond the gospel of salvation. - Now as to what information that the bible may lack, I do not necessarily believe that the door is closed. What is for Paul? Nor do I believe that Paul was restricted from uttering his extra-biblical revelations via some form of mandate. Rather, no words in mortal tongue could adequately express the grand revelations that he had experienced, without otherwise utilizing sorely diluted parables. Further, extra-biblical revelations (namely, those revelations beyond the message of the gospel of salvation) are indeed restricted from being added to the bible texts in any way. The written texts should never ever be tampered with, as per the curses promised in the book of Revelation. However, true extra-biblical revelations need never augment the canonized texts in any way. Many were likely even taught verbally in ancient bible times, whilst others were written without the tampering of bible texts. ---- Boasting is necessary, though it is not profitable; but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord. I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a man was caught up to the third heaven. And I know how such a man--whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows-- was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak. (2 Corinthians 12:1-4 NAS95) I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19 NAS95) RS |