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NASB | Job 22:23 "If you return to the Almighty, you will be restored; If you remove unrighteousness far from your tent, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Job 22:23 "If you return to the Almighty [and submit and humble yourself before Him], you will be built up [and restored]; If you remove unrighteousness far from your tents, |
Subject: Who is they in Job 22:28?. |
Bible Note: In what sense? Eve no doubt understood the penalty of Gen 2:17, for she repeats God's command to the serpent in Gen 3:3 "Except of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden. God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die." The serpent opposed that by slandering God in verse 4: "You shall not surely die." Simply put, that's a lie - both Adam and Eve eventually died. First spiritually, then physically because they removed themselves from the live-giving force of the Creator. I'm not sure what is meant by 'in a sense the serpent didn't lie when he said this to Eve'. The statement by the serpent is diametrically opposed to what God said - if that isn't a lie, I don't know what is. Could you qualify your statement, perhaps I don't understand the premise for it? Let's get back to the account and my previous thread. Adam and Eve forfeited eternal life on earth (that's where they were created and placed and commanded to reproduce and to take care of the earth and all the rest of God's creation, in the Garden of Eden - right here on earth). They forfeited this privilege not for "knowledge" sake alone, but for the right to decide for themselves what was right and wrong, as the serpent put it in Genesis 3:5, "... you will be as God, knowing the difference between good and evil, and blessing and calamity." The serpent was implying that God was holding something back from them by always listening to Him. Sure, you or I may not make such a decision today because we have the benefit of 20/20 hind-sight vision - look at the mess this alienation from God has brought upon mankind (Please compare Gen. 3:16,19 and 24, and Ecclesiates 8:9 'man has dominated man to his injury'). When Adam and Eve took the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it wasn't so much the fruit, but what it stood for (namely, independence from God's right to determine good and bad) that caused them to "chuck it" - everlasting life on earth and a peaceful relationship with God. :) They took something - the right to decide 'good from evil' - which didn't belong to them. Do you mean "couples" in this statement? "If you've ever watched husband and wife doubles, that does not compute." I'm not sure what you mean by this statement? I'm simply showing you the Biblical account and I have no reason to doubt what it says. Albeit it doesn't contain a detailed dialogue between Adam and Eve, the Author wouldn't have left out any detail if it was that important. There's enough there to deduce that Adam and Eve were telling God by their premeditated and disobedient actions, 'we want to decide for ourselves from now on what is good and evil, right and wrong'. What a major mistake that was for mankind. (Ro 5:12) We can't just simply look at couples today (who are imperfect and far removed from this pivotal event in mankind's relationship with God) and try to figure out why they did what they did. The scripture contains so many hints of which Gen 3:1-6 is key. How eloquently Jeremiah put it in Jeremiah 10:23 (NIV) "I know, oh Lord, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his steps." |