Subject: Speaking in tongues? |
Bible Note: What's up gracefull, and thanks for responding. When I say the uneducated sprouting gibberish, I'm not attacking the Word of God. I'm saying that the speaking of tongues, in some cases, can be forced. I'll explain: I've seen what the original poster is talking about, as far as saying that if you don't speak in tongues, you're not Holy Spirit-filled. One particular case involved that same circle of people I hinted at before, speaking in a language that was foreign to them, responding to each other in that same language, almost snapping back and forth at each other to elicit a response. I'm not attacking the Holy Spirit; I'd be foolish to do that, and that's not what I'm talking about. Rather, I'm saying that the conditions for speaking in tongues outlined in 1 Corinthians were not met, and the result was detrimental to the edification of the church and was just noise. When the pastor spends much time pointing out the guidelines and pointing out how people are wrong, and proceeds to do the exact same thing he lambasted people for, outside of the requirements set forth by the Lord (and to a much lesser degree, himself), it's strange. I do believe you when you say in certain circumstances an interpreter may not step up to the plate. But I also believe that the Holy Spirit is orderly, and does not and can not do anything to the detriment of the church. When I also say uneducated, I mean in terms of the Bible. Maybe uneducated is a bit of a strong word (I'll agree to use immature), because I've seen it happen consistenly with some educated people. It's one thing to sit in service, have the Holy Spirit fill within you, and be able to speak in tongues (with interpretation). It's quite another when the purpose of speaking and shouting these tongues aloud is not for the edification of the church, but because someone has told you that if you don't speak in tongues then you're not "Spirit filled". In these cases, people try to force the gift that may not even be present in that person, moreso edifying the gifts than edifying the Giver. My post wasn't meant to be mean spirited or rude. But I've seen people attempt to force it out of people for "their own sakes". It's one thing if the Lord reveals to a pastor or someone that a specific person has the gift and needs to be encouraged a bit to use it, in prayer and for the edification of the church. And it's another when it comes down to "well, you don't have that gift so I'm A)better than you and B)I'm more Spirit filled than you". Gracefull, I'm interested to know - when you spoke, did you speak in public? Or privately? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything. |