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Subject: Heb. 6:4-6 Security |
Bible Note: Beja Your statements are numbered my explanations underneath are not. (1) His point is that the author is in reality presenting an impossible scenario. Your right Beja the author is presenting an impossible scenario he clearly says that in v.4 that is how he started his teaching. "For it is impossible" (2) He is talking about true saved people, Your right again as he said a child would come to the this conclusion if he read these passages. (3) he is talking about real falling away of saved people, Right again but this is where the author has to insert the IF in v. 6 because he originally stated that it was impossible then he went on to describe who he was talking about ending with the fact the ones he has spoken of could not ever fall away. (4) and he asserts that such a situation would render salvation impossible for that individual. your statement is confusing to me so I will state it the way he says it is. The coming back to the point of another salvation repentance again. Jesus died once for him. (5) Only the author of Hebrews point is that this could never happen. Last but not least you are Right again. To put it into todays language It is impossible for anyone that has gained salvation through the grace of God to ever lose that salvation. In other words to fall away. But if they ever could then it would be as impossible for them to ever come back to the point of a new salvation for them because they have rejected the first one provided for them by Jesus Himself. At this point the only other reference I will use is Heb 10:26-31 What he is actually saying is. It is impossible for you to fall away but if you could. Sort of a catch 22 (6) Now, to me the real crucial point of such a take on the passage, is that you must show a reason the author of Hebrews would have said this. It has to contribute to his argument in some way or form. In other words, why would the author of Hebrews have ever brought up a situation that will never happen? It has to have some contribution to the larger context. I think Mr Spurgeon answered your question pretty well in the last of my posts 10, 11 I think I understand what you have meant it seems like an insertion into the text because it doesn't follow the whole narrative of the chapter. My ref. in Heb 10 has a rather good context that works because the author says close to the same thing. But this time it follows the narrative. nice having someone to discuss thoughts with lightedsteps |