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81 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150413 | ||
Kalos, Thank you for your response. But it seems you have digressed, as I don’t believe the article you posted answered my original questions or I do not understand fully what you are trying to get across. “So my question(s) is this, why do some feel it acceptable to ridicule those who are weak in the faith and why do others condone it instead of pointing it out? Could it not be detrimental to another brother who is weak and is looking for encouragement from other Christians”? However, the article you posted I think may be in reference to an earlier post of mine concerning the vehicles God uses to convey His Word. Am I right on that? I do not disagree with anything the article stated. My point, and maybe I failed to properly convey my thoughts, which I’ve found I often do, was not that God fails to be heard. Simply that we may at first fail to recognize that it is God speaking. One of the examples I used was of Samuel and Eli when the Lord spoke to Samuel and Samuel failed to recognize that it was the Lord speaking to him until Eli informed him of who it actually was. (1 Samuel 3:1-10) The Lord was still heard, and truly when He speaks He is heard, no matter our position, but in our finite minds, sometimes we fail to recognize it. But God established and knew His Word would be conveyed and the vehicle used was Eli in this instance. As is the point with misinterpreted Scripture, God does not fail to be heard, we fail to hear or understand and yes, there are those who simply refuse to respond or obey. God is sovereign and therefore I put know limitation or constraints on God Almighty. He speaks however He wishes and whatever He wills it be done. But as I stated previously, this doesn’t necessarily respond to my original question in this thread, or I’m simply failing to see the correlation. Can you please elaborate somewhat further so that I may understand the reason for taking this particular path? WOS |
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82 | Hindering layman from participating | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150462 | ||
To all: After seeing what I have seen today, (the defense of homosexuality) I sincerely revoke my premature accusations of some participants being too harsh. I now truly see there are those who wish to only debate and twist the Word and they force some to become harsh and risk ultimately harming those truly seeking guidance and truth and knowledge. Take the bad with the good I guess. If I have offended anyone with the statements I made yesterday, I am truly sorry and I will make it my business to mind my own business and let harshness beget harshness. Truly mystifying what some do to the word of God. My prayers go out for you. In Christ WOS. |
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83 | Whats the point? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 150704 | ||
Katebote, I’ve read your profile in which you state: “I'm just someone looking for a little more than Faith to believe the Bible is really the word of our Creator.” And: “It only seems appropriate givin the time we live in to have a little more than just Faith in order to believe in something”! Read Hebrews 11. Faith is what you need. WOS |
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84 | Is it sin to not have children? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154123 | ||
Here are a couple links that may assist you with the answer you seek. http://www.gotquestions.org/should-I-have-children.html http://www.gotquestions.org/birth-control.html WOS |
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85 | Where should I turn?????? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154536 | ||
Javelin, Just a question if I may... You said: "You can preach as you say til the cows come home and no one will listen unless what you say can be proven." Where does faith fit into your line of reasoning? Hebrews 11 1NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses]. 2For by [faith--trust and holy fervor born of faith] the men of old had divine testimony borne to them and obtained a good report. 3By faith we understand that the worlds [during the successive ages] were framed (fashioned, put in order, and equipped for their intended purpose) by the word of God, so that what we see was not made out of things which are visible. WOS |
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86 | Where should I turn?????? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154543 | ||
I agree there are valid questions that should be answered, but why the need rule out the use of Scripture? Javelin stated in post #154487: “Using the bible to prove God's existence is circular reasoning.” That would indicate that it is futile to use the Bible to prove God’s existence and I disagree with that. I don’t dissuade the use of extra-biblical material in answering valid questions so long as their sources are validated by the God-inspired scriptures. You seem to hold Paul’s epistles in high regard, so let us look at what Paul wrote concerning the subject. A look into 1 Corinthians 1 (vs 20-23 specifically) shows us that Paul, when preaching, in fact preached Christ crucified. 20Where is the wise man (the philosopher)? Where is the scribe (the scholar)? Where is the investigator (the logician, the debater) of this present time and age? Has not God shown up the nonsense and the folly of this world's wisdom? 21For when the world with all its earthly wisdom failed to perceive and recognize and know God by means of its own philosophy, God in His wisdom was pleased through the foolishness of preaching [salvation, procured by Christ and to be had through Him], to save those who believed (who clung to and trusted in and relied on Him). 22For while Jews [demandingly] ask for signs and miracles and Greeks pursue philosophy and wisdom, 23We preach Christ (the Messiah) crucified, [preaching which] to the Jews is a scandal and an offensive stumbling block [that springs a snare or trap], and to the Gentiles it is absurd and utterly unphilosophical nonsense. Where in fact do we learn the truth about Christ’s crucifixion and what it means to us? That would be the Bible. Why did Paul in all his godly wisdom choose to preach this way? Matthew Henry explains it this way: “Paul had been bred up in Jewish learning; but the plain preaching of a crucified Jesus, was more powerful than all the oratory and philosophy of the heathen world. This is the sum and substance of the gospel. Christ crucified is the foundation of all our hopes, the fountain of all our joys. And by his death we live. The preaching of salvation for lost sinners by the sufferings and death of the Son of God, if explained and faithfully applied, appears foolishness to those in the way to destruction. The sensual, the covetous, the proud, and ambitious, alike see that the gospel opposes their favourite pursuits. But those who receive the gospel, and are enlightened by the Spirit of God, see more of God's wisdom and power in the doctrine of Christ crucified, than in all his other works. God left a great part of the world to follow the dictates of man's boasted reason, and the event has shown that human wisdom is folly, and is unable to find or retain the knowledge of God as the Creator. It pleased him, by the foolishness of preaching, to save them that believe. By the foolishness of preaching; not by what could justly be called foolish preaching. But the thing preached was foolishness to wordly-wise men. The gospel ever was, and ever will be, foolishness to all in the road to destruction. The message of Christ, plainly delivered, ever has been a sure touchstone by which men may learn what road they are travelling. But the despised doctrine of salvation by faith in a crucified Saviour, God in human nature, purchasing the church with his own blood, to save multitudes, even all that believe, from ignorance, delusion, and vice, has been blessed in every age. And the weakest instruments God uses, are stronger in their effects, than the strongest men can use. Not that there is foolishness or weakness in God, but what men consider as such, overcomes all their admired wisdom and strength.” John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) Me. When we witness, we need to witness Christ, who leads to God. Man has a funny way of making God become anything he wants Him to become, to satisfy his own mind. In pointing the lost to Christ, they’ll come to the Father in the way of proper understanding the way they need to. You must have faith in Christ to begin that journey. We have a true eyewitness account of our Lord given by the Gospels, the Bible. I also disagree that faith completes our journey to salvation. Our journey is complete when we are glorified with Christ when He returns. When that happens, I’ll no longer need faith, for then, I will see Him face to face. WOS |
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87 | Where should I turn?????? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154590 | ||
2Fedex, No criticism. I promise. I would just like to point out a couple of things to you, if I may, in response to your post to humbledbyhisgrace since it will follow up my response to you earlier also. You said: “but we must not discount people too quickly when they ask questions that require physical proof(Jesus certainly didn't seem terribly offended by the Apostles wanting to touch Him)” John 20:29 Jesus said to him, Because you have seen Me, Thomas, do you now believe (trust, have faith)? Blessed and happy and to be envied are those who have never seen Me and yet have believed and adhered to and trusted and relied on Me. See, we weren’t going to get the hands on proof (and didn’t get it) that the disciples were privileged to receive. But we did get the Holy Spirit and Scriptures. You also state: “but how can a person who is apparently lost and without the Holy Spirit to illuminate them know what a particular verse means?” Romans 15:4 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. 1 Thessalonians 1:5 because our gospel came to you not simply with words, but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and with deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for your sake. We can’t give anyone the Holy Spirit we can only point them to the Scriptures. And then you stated: “God knows our hearts and can and will provide all we need to have faith.” Romans 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ. We need faith. That’s why I asked where faith fit into a certain line of reasoning. Without faith why would anyone believe? And where can we get that faith? We get it from God through hearing His message. That’s why I know that the Bible can be used to prove God’s existence to someone who does not believe, because it contains God’s message to us and we cannot concoct anything better than that. If we are seeking the truth, we’ll find it in Christ. We’ll find the eyewitness accounts of Christ in the Bible. Luke 11:9,10: 9"So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 10For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. My point is this: If one is truly and honestly seeking the truth, they’ll find it in Scripture. We can only lead them that far and then God will do the rest. That's all I wanted to point out. In love WOS |
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88 | is masturbation a sin? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154633 | ||
johnny-b, Yonose gave you a pretty good answer. For more, see the following: http://www.gotquestions.org/masturbation-sin.html WOS |
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89 | CHOOSING TO REJECT JESUS | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154749 | ||
Who is there among us who does not desire to come to God in heaven? Lives there a man with soul so dead that he has no pantings for another and a better world? Is there a heart so seared that it never longs to be at rest—an eye so blind that it never looks into the hereafter, and a soul so stolid that it never leaps with exulting spirit, in the prospect of a world of joy and happiness? The wild untutored savage of the woods looks to another world, and when some beloved one is buried, he lights a fire upon the grave, to light the spirit through the dreary shades of death, that it may find its way to paradise; and then he sits upon the grave, when the fire is quenched, and days of the spirit that is gone, and hopes for it that it has gone to the kingdom of the blessed, to the land of the hereafter. Never is he content, unless he hopes that the spirit of his beloved one is gone to a better land. And shall it be imagined that any of us who are living in a Christian country are shutting our eyes to the future, and never think of looking beyond the grave there are many here—nay, all of us are longing for another and a better world. O world of woe, what wert thou, if thou wert not a stepping-stone to a world of bliss? O land of graves and shrouds, of pick-axe and of spade, what wert thou if we did not dive through thee into the land of light? O vale of tears, what wert thou, if it were not that thou art the pathway to the mountain of transfiguration? O valley of Baca, filled with tears of sorrow, till the pools thereof are overflowing! what wert thou, if thou didst not lead to the tabernacles of our God, the peaceful sanctuary in which we hope to dwell? But there is no way to heaven, whatever our hopes may be, but through Christ. O spirit of man, there is no way to the gates of pearl but through the bleeding side of Jesus. These are the gates of paradise—these bleeding wounds. If thou wouldst find thy way to God's bright throne, find first thy way to Jesus' shameful cross; if thou wouldst know the way to happiness, tread in that path of misery which Jesus trod. What! attempt another way? Man, art thou mad enough to think that thou canst rend the posts, and bars, and gates of heaven from their perpetual places, and force thy way by thy created strength? The arm of God shall dash thee down to the nethermost pit. – C. H. Spurgeon Christ will be the Finisher of that of which he is the Author or Beginner; if he have prepared the place for us, he will prepare us for it. Christ is the sinner's Way to the Father and to heaven, in his person as God manifest in the flesh, in his atoning sacrifice, and as our Advocate. He is the Truth, as fulfilling all the prophecies of a Saviour; believing which, sinners come by him the Way. He is the Life, by whose life-giving Spirit the dead in sin are quickened. Nor can any man draw nigh God as a Father, who is not quickened by Him as the Life, and taught by Him as the Truth, to come by Him as the Way. – Matthew Henry Romans 1:18-20 (NIV) 18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. Matthew 7:13,14(NASB) 13"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. WOS |
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90 | Can you prove 'a' god exists? | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154798 | ||
I think one of the greater proofs of God’s existence is the display of great opposition to it. How can one oppose that which does not exist? The greatest proof however, is Jesus himself and the eyewitness accounts of Him and who He was that we have in our Holy Scripture that have endured every argument that man could raise against them and survived every attempt made to break them. Add to that our conscience of knowing right and wrong and the proof continues to mount. God has revealed Himself to every man. The rejection of those who refuse to see or submit to the evidence that God has provided is proof in itself. I believe it is a “belief or a concept” that there is no God out of blatant refusal to identify with God, not that evidence and proof is lacking but rather faith is lacking. Therefore, for man to prove God’s existence, there must first be an establishment of faith in God within the one in which you are attempting to prove God’s existence. The evidence or proof is not lacking rather it is rejected and consequently, that very faith is a gift from the same God who has been rejected and in whom there is no belief and therefore faith is withheld. One who sees the truths of God’s existence and willfully denies them has no faith. There is nothing that man can do to convince him otherwise. But that doesn’t mean the proof is lacking. It simply shows our ignorance in accepting the truth. The proof is there, the very message of God is among us. Prior to that God walked among us. What more proof can one need? WOS |
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91 | BIBLE (mens ) FAULTS | Bible general Archive 2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 155296 | ||
I get the sense that the forum may believe that obi is a member of LDS??? I would have debate that because I'm sure he hasn't read or is unaware of what his beloved Mr. Smith wrote on respect of others in his "Gospel Doctrine". Surely if he is promoting that his church is the true church and that obedience is a requirement for salvation, he would at least abide in it's doctrine and show respect to others which evidence very clears shows, is lacking. Not a very good example obi, in any case. Definitely not a Christian example seeing that you all have argued that you are really Christians so long and so hard. I pray you’ll recognize your error and repent. WOS |
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92 | who is ahaz? | OT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 188885 | ||
From Easton’s Bible Dictionary Ahaz Possessor. (1.) A grandson of Jonathan (1Ch_8:35; 1Ch_9:42). (2.) The son and successor of Jotham, king of Judah (2 Kings 16; Isa. 7-9; 2 Chr. 28). He gave himself up to a life of wickedness and idolatry. Notwithstanding the remonstrances and warnings of Isaiah, Hosea, and Micah, he appealed for help against Rezin, king of Damascus, and Pekah, king of Israel, who threatened Jerusalem, to Tiglath-pileser, the king of Assyria, to the great injury of his kingdom and his own humiliating subjection to the Assyrians (2Ki_16:7, 2Ki_16:9; 2Ki_15:29). He also introduced among his people many heathen and idolatrous customs (Isa_8:19; Isa_38:8; 2Ki_23:12). He died at the age of thirty-five years, after reigning sixteen years (740-724 B.C.), and was succeeded by his son Hezekiah. Because of his wickedness he was “not brought into the sepulchre of the kings.” WOS |
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93 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 200557 | ||
Dear parpar, Not going in depth regarding the rest of your posts on this particular thread… Can I point out that in part, it may be that your understanding of justified may be somewhat off the beaten path, so to speak. I don’t think God justifies because we have done the right thing in accepting his offer of salvation, but rather by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Jesus Christ unto us. And this not by anything we do, because it requires faith which is a gift from God to begin with. Romans 4:5-8: 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. Ephesians 2:7-9: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. In faith lies the justification. Romans 5:1,2: 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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94 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 201125 | ||
Dear parpar, I apologize if I wasn’t clear with the intent of my post. It was in response to your statement concerning your understanding of how a sinner is justified and the importance you appeared to place on the sinner and their acceptance of salvation and it being simply considered the right thing to do. If the implication of your understanding was that faith was the catalyst or instrument, I missed it. Thus the reason I responded as I did. I’m kind of a say what you mean and mean what you say type of guy… I take much at face value especially what I read. I tend not to go looking for hidden or obscure implications unless I am prompted to do so, again, probably me, not reading into your understanding. If your understanding is such that it is nothing we do in justification and that it is wholly on God’s account through our faith in Christ, then I have no disagreement with you on that point, you just didn’t stated it in that manner and I still pick up even in your latest response that you lean somewhat heavily on the human effort. God’s call is effectual parpar, and when He calls us, we respond. So I’m not sure why you seem to emphasize “our acceptance” so much. Ezekiel 36:26,27: 26 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. So with that, back to our point of justification as being God’s work and not ours… Romans 3:21-26: 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Ephesians 1:6,7: 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; I scanned over the content of the link you sent and it appeared to indicate the same, that faith is the instrument but it also points out that it is accompanied with the other saving graces and is not a dead faith. Again attributed to God through Christ and not dependant on anything we think we can or cannot do. It’s all according to the mercy of God. Titus 3:4-8: 4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. I tend to think that there was never a contradiction between Paul and James and that it is really not that difficult to comprehend. The problem is in the approach men take when reading and comparing the two. We fail often, I think, to take into consideration the whole counsel of God’s Word and therefore see things only in part as we read them. We must learn to keep His Word in the constant perspective of 2 Timothy 3:16. The small word “all” is actually a pretty big word in meaning and it is indicative of the fact that we must take it “all” into consideration when we reflect upon God’s glory as well as our salvation and living in His grace. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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95 | mary magdelene and lazeraths sister mar | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 149018 | ||
Here is some info that I have on the Marys of the Bible. Hope this is helpful. WOS The Seven Marys #1 Mary mother of Jesus Mary of Nazareth The Virgin Mary Matthew 1 The Birth of Jesus Christ 18This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. Luke 1 The Birth of Jesus Foretold 26In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. Revelation 11 19Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm. Some believe the ark of His covenant in revelation is Mary, Mother of Jesus. #2 Mary Magdalene Mary of Magdala (Jerusalem) Luke 8 2and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out; Matthew 27 56Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons. Matthew 27 61Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb. #3 Mary, Martha’s Sister Mary, Lazarus’ Sister Mary of Bethany Luke 10 At the Home of Martha and Mary 38As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. 39She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet listening to what he said. John 11 2This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair. #4 Mary Mother of James Luke 24 10It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them who told this to the apostles. #5 Mary, His Mother’s sister Mary wife of Clopas John 19 25Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. #6 Mary mother of John Acts 12 12When this had dawned on him, he went to the house of Mary the mother of John, also called Mark, where many people had gathered and were praying. #7 St. Mary of Rome Romans 16 6Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you. |
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96 | Forgive but don't forget | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 149547 | ||
Very good answer to your question can be found at: http://www.gotquestions.org/forgive-forget.html WOS |
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97 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 160873 | ||
Dear hetfield, I’ll offer my opinion if you’ll hear it: Our Bible, both Old and New Testaments are the inspired word of God. I’ve seen a definition of biblical inspiration that states it is “the Work of the Holy Spirit by which, without setting aside their personalities and literary or human faculties, God so guided the authors of Scripture as to enable them to write exactly the words which convey His truth to men, and in doing so preserved their judgments from error in the original manuscripts.” Through (fallible) human authors, God manifested the infallible and errorless writings, which convey His messages. If you admit that the New Testament is not the inspired word of God, you must admit then, that is simply the work of fallible humans. If that is the case, how can you further attest to its accuracy and usefulness and its reliability. Throughout the ages men have proven to be unreliable and to history’s account, well history, or our perception of it, depends on who we are and who’s account we read. Example: George Washington was a great hero to the Revolutionary Army of the colonial United States. To England, he was a traitor. His character is depicted differently depending on whose version you read. The same can be said of Benedict Arnold. He was a national hero in one view, a treasonous rebel in another. So to put your trust in the historicity of the New Testament while it was composed and written by uninspired men is dangerous to say the least. How do you know for sure that it is the undeniable truth? If written by uninspired men and therefore not the word of God, then you never really can. Can you? History is infested with fallacy. The New Testament is more than just simply some historical document. It is part of God’s revelation to man. We damage so severely the word of God, our Bible, when we think we can play God and pick and choose what Scripture is inspired and which is not. In doing so, quite quickly, the rest of the Bible begins to unravel. Only God has the authority to decide what is inspired and what is not. Scripture attests to the fact that all of it is inspired, as has been pointed out by numerous people throughout this thread. You can claim this is circular reasoning but that is God’s reasoning. He determined to inspire the men He did to record His word. If God is truth: (John 3:33, Romans 3:4) then you must admit that what is breathed out by God must also be true and infallible. The Holy Spirit is the inspiration behind the Prophets and Apostles. They spoke the truth predicated on that inspiration, which was then recorded for our benefit and secured by God Himself through His Holy Spirit, to ensure that was recorded, remained unadulterated by the “fallible” human authors. Now the Bible cannot save you, that is for sure. But it can direct your ways to discover the One who can, which you attest to already knowing. You seem to put your faith in Christ and strongly and consistently state that, but you diminish the authority of the Word that pointed you in His direction. As you stated: “I can and do believe in Jesus because of the bible.” If your faith is in Christ and your salvation is true, it is because the Holy Spirit, a work of God has made it so. The same Holy Spirit that so divinely inspired the written Word of God in which you question. Just some thoughts. WOS |
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98 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161004 | ||
Yes, He inspired it. I believe I stated that in my post #160873. The words are His words because His Holy Spirit inspired and guided those that wrote them. WOS |
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99 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161027 | ||
Lead pipe, You claim: "Faith comes from evidence, anyone who trusts their eternal destiny on something without evidence is never truly sure." My friend, you don't come close to God's definition of faith. Read Hebrews 11:1,2. 1Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. 2This is what the ancients were commended for. That's what faith is, there is no "evidence". Faith does not come from evidence, it comes from hearing God's word. Romans 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ. Repost ID# 160873: Dear hetfield, I’ll offer my opinion if you’ll hear it: Our Bible, both Old and New Testaments are the inspired word of God. I’ve seen a definition of biblical inspiration that states it is “the Work of the Holy Spirit by which, without setting aside their personalities and literary or human faculties, God so guided the authors of Scripture as to enable them to write exactly the words which convey His truth to men, and in doing so preserved their judgments from error in the original manuscripts.” Through (fallible) human authors, God manifested the infallible and errorless writings, which convey His messages. If you admit that the New Testament is not the inspired word of God, you must admit then, that is simply the work of fallible humans. If that is the case, how can you further attest to its accuracy and usefulness and its reliability. Throughout the ages men have proven to be unreliable and to history’s account, well history, or our perception of it, depends on who we are and who’s account we read. Example: George Washington was a great hero to the Revolutionary Army of the colonial United States. To England, he was a traitor. His character is depicted differently depending on whose version you read. The same can be said of Benedict Arnold. He was a national hero in one view, a treasonous rebel in another. So to put your trust in the historicity of the New Testament while it was composed and written by uninspired men is dangerous to say the least. How do you know for sure that it is the undeniable truth? If written by uninspired men and therefore not the word of God, then you never really can. Can you? History is infested with fallacy. The New Testament is more than just simply some historical document. It is part of God’s revelation to man. We damage so severely the word of God, our Bible, when we think we can play God and pick and choose what Scripture is inspired and which is not. In doing so, quite quickly, the rest of the Bible begins to unravel. Only God has the authority to decide what is inspired and what is not. Scripture attests to the fact that all of it is inspired, as has been pointed out by numerous people throughout this thread. You can claim this is circular reasoning but that is God’s reasoning. He determined to inspire the men He did to record His word. If God is truth: (John 3:33, Romans 3:4) then you must admit that what is breathed out by God must also be true and infallible. The Holy Spirit is the inspiration behind the Prophets and Apostles. They spoke the truth predicated on that inspiration, which was then recorded for our benefit and secured by God Himself through His Holy Spirit, to ensure that was recorded, remained unadulterated by the “fallible” human authors. Now the Bible cannot save you, that is for sure. But it can direct your ways to discover the One who can, which you attest to already knowing. You seem to put your faith in Christ and strongly and consistently state that, but you diminish the authority of the Word that pointed you in His direction. As you stated: “I can and do believe in Jesus because of the bible.” If your faith is in Christ and your salvation is true, it is because the Holy Spirit, a work of God has made it so. The same Holy Spirit that so divinely inspired the written Word of God in which you question. Just some thoughts. WOS |
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100 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161102 | ||
Inspired in this sense, is being under the influence of. Being guided by. If a person inspires you to do something, you still remain in full control, functioning upon your on will. The Holy Spirit of God is an altogether different entity. To be guided and led by God and to simply be inspired by another person to perform an act are not even comparable. Do you think they are? WOS |
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