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81 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126698 | ||
Love to you Norm, If you disagree with the information, say that you disagree. Your explanation, in particular about the blood, sounded condescending, and I feel like you were implying that I am stupid. Perhaps it was just the way you worded it. I recognize that we can't hear the inflection of voice on a computer screen, so I admit that I could have misperceived your intent. Nevertheless, that's how I took it, and as I go out of my way not to hurt other's feelings, I am especially sensitive to those that would hurt mine. Please forgive if I misunderstood you, as I also forgive you. Ancient |
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82 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126694 | ||
Hey guys, I wanted to answer what you said, but I want to also reiterate that I am not making statements of fact, just statements for consideration. The Bible says that through one man, sin entered the world. I am not aware of a scripture that says it is transmitted through the blood. Please advise on this. Jesus was born of a woman, but he did not sin. Jesus also, while in the image of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be exploited, but humbled himself, taking the form of a slave, and being made in the likeness of men. So was he also formed in iniquity? Please advise on this. Josephus writes: "I returned back to the city, being bow nineteen years old, and began to conduct myself according to the rules of the sect of the Pharisees, which is of kin to the sect of the Stoics, as the Greeks call them." Paul writes: "If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless." Josephus writes also: "Moreover, Moses, after the seventh day was over, begins to talk philosophically; and concerning the formation of man, says thus: ... (created from the dust, etc.)" Antiquities of the Jews 1.1.2 Josephus and Paul both being of the same sect or religious order gives us some insight into the mind of Paul on some base levels. They considered part of the creation philosophical. Is it therefore wrong to at least consider such possibilities? As for being attacked, I feel like your answers are condescending, and I take exception to that. I haven't said anything bad that I'm aware of. This is a bible study forum, yes? So I'm offering information that the study can be more thoroughly furnished to all good works. I don't think it's nice to treat my offering so poorly. Ancient |
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83 | Gnostic gosples | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126683 | ||
mikec, The Gnostic gospels are considered New Testament Apocrypha. There are books available that contain most of them. Higher learning is an admirable goal, but I wouldn't recommend polluting yourself with that stuff unless you are well read. Some of them can be quite convincing if you don't recognize why they are flawed, and why they were rejected as canon. The one I have here is: The Apocryphal New Testament, A Collection of Apocryphal Christian Literature in an English Translation based on M. R. James. Edited by J. K. Elliott. From the Oxford Press. Again, I do not recommend it lightly. Please take such literature with a grain of salt. Ancient |
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84 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126680 | ||
Whoa ... folks ... I said this was a Gnostic theory, not what I personally think. I consider the possibility because I do not discredit the potential for hidden mysteries in scripture, as in the example of Jesus Christ himself, but I do not hold to this opinion of the Creation. I typed the original response to explain where the idea of the apple came from. I'm quite hurt. I feel like I'm being attacked here. Did you not read what I said and why I said it? With love, Ancient |
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85 | is remarriage possible | NT general Archive 1 | Ancient | 126672 | ||
John 20:23 If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained. Matt 18:32-35 "Then summoning him, his lord *said to him, 'You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?' And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. "My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart." Matthew 19:9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for fornication, and marries another woman commits adultery. It would be my opinion based on the scriptures provided that it will be okay for him to remarry. If she has left him for another man, then he is not bound to her and can "put her away," albeit involuntarily on his part if he wants her back. I would advise that he be forgiving, however hurtful the situation. But I would conclude from scripture that he can remarry unless the information you gave is not correct. Ancient |
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86 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126667 | ||
Yes, agreed. You are full of fun knowledge, doctrinsograce. These other things I knew as well. I was just agreeing with you to give you a little support. *smile* Something else that is not in the Bible, as often believed, is the name Lucifer as pertaining to the devil. This was a Latin word that means "to bear light," or light-bearer. The word was used in vulgar Latin to translate the Hebrew word Haylal, which means "morning star," a title Jesus takes for himself. Also, the word lucifer (small "l") actually appears twice in the Vulgate, not once. The second occurence is in 2nd Peter 1:19, where he says, " ... until the day dawn, and the morning star (lucifer) rises in your hearts." I found this interesting. Since discovering it, I have been doing a rather in depth study on the Fall of Satan, trying to verify the veracity of the theory. So far, I have found it grossly flawed. The theory, as it originally started, was in the third century. Origen, a founding church father, expressed the spiritualized view of the heavenly rebellion and subsequent fall in his treatise, "The First Principles." Lacking anything definitive from the Apostles, he sought to deduce from scripture a position regarding the origin of opposing powers that might be more credibly maintained. Origen, while a magnificent man, was known quite notoriously for spiritualizing things. Perhaps one of these days I will post a topic for a discussion on this theory. For now, though, it's a little more in depth than I can relate in a single, casual post. Thanks for your response doctrinsograce. Ancient. |
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87 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126666 | ||
Angel, Interesting thought. You make a reasonable point on a material and physical level. I will have to disagree with you, though, on the grounds that we are speaking of two different things. Your statement has merit, but is of a different nature from my statement. This is not to say that you are wrong, only that your answer addresses my statement on the wrong level. You are speaking physically. I am speaking metaphorically. According to the previously related hypothesis, the knowledge of good and evil is quite readily available in the world today. If the creation story is part allegory, and many do believe that, then the fruit, while growing on a tree in the Garden of Eden, is merely symbolic, and still within grasp. Ezekiel 31 gives an interesting analogy on the Garden of Eden, reckoning it to be the world, and the trees the people in it. What I was saying is that, according to the hypothesis, the fruit, as opposed to being something material, was something spiritual; knowledge of good and evil. When she tasted the fruit, being supposed as something sexual according to this hypothesis, it can also be correlated to the figurative use of the apple tree in the garden portrayed in the Song of Solomon. Which tree, as it is there written, is recognized as being a man, and the fruit of the apple tree being his love (whether affectionate or physical is not clearly stated). In other words, the knowledge of good and evil is in the world, and this originally came by way of the fruit. As said knowledge passes from one generation to the next, it is reasonable to consider that the fruit has either a long-lasting taste, or the fruit, perpetuating seeds, has generated new trees from which to taste that we all might die and find new life. Let me reiterate what I said before: I am undecided as to whether this has credible merit. However, we should be quick to listen, and we should never silence wisdom. If we don't consider the possibility, we can never find truth. Thank you for your response. Again, you make a good point, and it is worth consideration. Ancient |
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88 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126639 | ||
Wow, I didn't know the Samson thing. That was something learned for me today. I knew about Noah. He took seven of the clean animals, for eating I presume. Luke was not an original disciple, so I knew that one. The Red Sea was parted, and so was the Jordan when the Israelites crossed over towards Jericho. David took some smooth stones, plural. I knew that one. The others I hadn't thought about. Thanks for some interesting information doctrinsograce. Ancient |
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89 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126635 | ||
I think I have an answer to the fruit thing. In The Song of Solomon 2:3 is says "Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest, so is my beloved among the young men. In his shade I took great delight and sat down, and his fruit was sweet to my taste." Some early church speculations, Gnostic if I'm not mistaken, suggested that the original sin was sexual in orientation. Hence, Adam's "apple" in correlation with the passage in Song of Solomon which uses familiar terminology for a man's love. I don't know that I hold to this view as truthful, but in the pursuit of truth, I at least consider the possible credibility of the concept. I'm undecided. Hope this sheds some light on where the phrase came from. Ancient |
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