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81 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181487 | ||
Doc. You wrote "Relative to Philippians 2:9 you asked, " How can Jesus be given the name that He already has?" (sic) Why can't God have bestowed on Him the name eternally? Do you suppose that the Son graduated into His position at some point in time? "The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding." Athanasius points out that these aspects o God are eternal, rather than temporal". I disagree, verse 9 has to be understood within the context of verses 5-9. Verse 9 starts with the word "Therefore" this clearly indicates that God also has highly exalted Him because of what Jesus did as described in some detail in verses 5-8, see bellow. Phl 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, Phl 2:6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, Phl 2:7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. Phl 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Phl 2:9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, You also wrote. "we want to take the whole of Scripture into account, not pick and choose verses to reflect our own ideas. The former is God centered, the latter is self centered". I have never at any time approached Bible reading with preconceived ideas, looking for verses to support them. I find your suggestion that I have, to be both insensitive and insulting. |
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82 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181480 | ||
Hi John. You have quoted. "Note: 1 John 2:27 '"You have no need for anyone to teach you." Both "you's" are plural and refer to the believing community as a whole; there is no ground here for a hyper-individualistic understanding of the Gospel wherein the views of other believers and the gathering of believers together are considered unimportant' (Jewish New Testament Commentary, David H. Stern, Jewish New Testament Publications, Inc., 1992)." Mr Stern is expressing his opinion to which he is of course entitled, however, what he has said in no way alters what I have said. The Bible is a supernatural revelation from Almighty God, it is a spiritual book, and spiritual things have to be spiritually discerned 1Cr 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Only a born again Christian can discern what the Holy Spirit reveals, and then only if the reader adopts the same attitude that Jesus adopted at all times i.e. "not my will but thine be done". Thank you very much for your kind, and encouraging words as bellow. Subject: Could Jesus sin? Note: Edwin, Your post to Tim is a good one. And thanks for clarifying what you wrote earlier. I just didn't get it the first few times I read it, but now I do after you explained it to me. A very Merry Christmas to you! John It's a joy for me to have fellowship with you in this way. A very merry Christmas to you and your family, and all the best for 2007. Edwin. |
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83 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181473 | ||
Hi Doc. Thank you for your post. As I have said many times before, I have no problem in accepting the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, the problem that I have is with the teaching that although Jesus was also truly a human being, He was never at any time less than God. This being the case therefore, please answer the three questions bellow. Luk 22:42 saying, "Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done." How can God say "not My will"? Jhn 5:30 "I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. How can God say "I can of Myself do nothing"? Phl 2:9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, How can Jesus be given the name that He already has? Every blessing. Edwin. |
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84 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181468 | ||
Greetings Doc. What makes you think that the Biblical interpretations of fallen human beings in the 5th Century are to be preferred to those of fallen human beings in the 21st Centuary? Whenever I read Scripture, I adopt an attitude towards God as outlined at Jhn 7:17 "If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority. It is as a result of my adopting this attitude towards what I read that I believe the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth of what that passage has to convey, and that He will not confirm error. Thank you for your seasonal wishes. Edwin. |
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85 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181454 | ||
Greetings John. Please read my post of 12.56 PM to-day to Tim Morant. Have a great holiday, and best wishes for 2007. Edwin. |
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86 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181453 | ||
Hi John. Below is an extract from my post. "My user screen name, "kalos", is a Greek word which, in the KJV, is translated as "honest". My use of the word "Name", is as above, a description of a person", Would you allow that the word "honest", is a description of yourself?, yes, or no Sorry to cause you confusion. Edwin. |
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87 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181452 | ||
Greetings Tim. I have never said that Jesus ceased to be fully God, only that He has two natures, one which is Divine, and one which is human. Perhaps what follows will help you to understand. When Jesus came to earth some 2000 years ago, He not only came to offer Himself as a sinless sacrifice to pay for our sins, and thus enable God to forgive as many as will accept this fact. but also to demonstrate by His life just how we humans were, and are intended by our Father God to behave towards He who made us in His own image. By His life, I mean the attitude of (Not My will, but thine be done) that Jesus continually adopted towards His Father, thus enabling the Father who indwelt the Son, see Jhn 14:10 "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. The Father communicates Himself through the body of the man Jesus to all people with whom He came into contact at that time, and through Scripture now to us. This is the reason why you, if you are a Christian are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, in order that you might allow the other resident within yourself to have right of way in your life, and to do just what He wants to do in and through you. Remember Jesus said, "He who has seen me has seen the Father", Jhn 14:7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him." not that the Father is a human being, Jesus is here referring to conduct and behavior, what He the Father did, and what He said, see Jhn 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son,* who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. Jesus also said, Jhn 15:3 "You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Jhn 15:4 "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. Jhn 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. Note "without Me you can do nothing" Why do you suppose that Paul said Gal 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. Phl 1:21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain Col 1:27 To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which* is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Gal 4:19 My little children, for whom I labor in birth again until Christ is formed in you, There is only one person in this whole universe who can live the Christian life to perfection,,, that person lives inside you, and that's why Jesus said what He said at, John 5:19. John 5:30, John 11:41b - 42, John 14:7-10. Ask Him in prayer, why He did things this way, and He will tell you as He told me many years ago, "Because it's the only way you can do it". Have an enjoyable holiday. Edwin. |
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88 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181440 | ||
Hi Tim. Please explain to me just what your understanding of John 5:30. is, and I will take it from there. Jhn 5:30 "I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. |
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89 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181435 | ||
1 name a word or a combination of words by which a person, place, or thing, a body or class, or any object of thought is designated, called, or known. My user screen name, "kalos", is a Greek word which, in the KJV, is translated as "honest". My use of the word "Name", is as above, a description of a person, however, I still await your explanation of how it is that out of the mouth of one person there can come a claim to Deity (Which I accept), and a claim not to be (which I also accept) I look forward with eager anticipation to your resolution of this apparent contradiction. Let me give you a clue, have a look at John 14:10, where our Lord Jesus himself describes just what is going on. Bless you brother. Edwin. |
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90 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181411 | ||
John referring to this passage said. Jhn 12:37 But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him, Jhn 12:38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke: "Lord, who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?"* Jhn 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again: Jhn 12:40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, Lest they should see with their eyes, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them."* Jhn 12:41 These things Isaiah said when* he saw His glory and spoke of Him So then just who did Isaiah see? Jhn 5:21 "For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. Jhn 5:22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, Jhn 5:23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. The Lord our God does not have a name in the sense that we have names, in order to identify/distinguish ourselves from one another. There is only one God, and for this reason no need for Him to have a name, as there is no other god with whom He might be confused. What is given in Scripture is a number of different descriptions of, His Nature, His ability, His capacity, etc, etc, What type/sort of Person He is. At Gen Ch 3 v 13. Moses said If they ask me "What is His name" what shall I say to them? The reply he received was not a name but a description. "I AM" which can also be rendered as "The perpetually self revealing all existent one". One more example, take the description EL SHADDAI, God Almighty, or "God All Sufficient", which is found 48 times in the OT. This is a compound title, made up of ELOHIM meaning the strong one who gives strength/nourishment, and the Hebrew word Shad which refers to the Female Breast. What the Lord is saying here is "I love you with the very special tender loving care that a nursing mother feels for the infant that she is breast feeding". For further information see http://www.ldolphin.org/names.html The Lord bless you all. pabrain. Below is one example of the use of EL SHADDAI. Gen 17:1 WHEN Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless. Gen 17:2 "And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly." Gen 17:3 Then Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying: Gen 17:4 "As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations. Gen 17:5 "No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations. Gen 17:6 "I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. In verse 1 the Lord reveals Himself as "Almighty God", this is the English translation of EL SHADDAI. Isn't it wonderful, that when God tells Abraham who had not fathered any children, that he will be the father of many, that The Lord uses His title which is so closely related to nursing infants. Do we really have any idea just how incredible the Lord our God is? there are just no words to adequately describe Him. May the Lord bless you abundantly, and keep you safe. Edwin. |
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91 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181410 | ||
Hi John. Thank you for your post. I think you will find that the material bellow will put the the whole matter into perspective, as these verses clearly indicate the Deity of out Lord Jesus Christ. The question should be, are you John, and others able to reconcile these apperantly opposing views of of the second person of the Trinity. For me it presents no problem, but before I let you have my thoughts, I want to see what others have to say. Subject: Jesus is God. Jesus is God, but He is also man at the same time. Have a look at Isaiah Ch 48 vs 12-16, but don't read the whole of v 16, just yet, read only, "Draw near to me, hear this: from the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time it came to be I have been there" (ESV). Now ask yourself, Who is speaking?, the answer can only be, the Lord our GOD, now read the rest of v 16, "And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit." it is clear then that the one speaking in the first part of this verse must be our Lord Jesus, and none other. Read Matthew Ch 28 v 19, "in the name" not "names", one name, three persons. Now try Colossians Ch 2 v 9, "For in him the whole fullness of Deity dwells bodily" (ESV). That is to say, all there is of the Father, all there is of the Son, and all there is of the Holy Spirit dwelling inside the body of the Lord Jesus Christ. As I have said before, and will no doubt say again, don't try to understand it, just believe it, God has given you the faith to believe, so use it. The human mind is totally incapable of comprehending the Trinity, or the Deity of Jesus, so don't try. Remember "Without faith, it is impossible to please God". Better rendered as "Without exercising faith". All Scripture verses quoted are from the English Standard Version, unless otherwise stated. At John Ch 14 v 9, Jesus said "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. John Ch 1 v 18 , reads "No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known". or "the only one, who is God"; some manuscripts "the only Son". Note, the Translator's preference is all ways shown in the main text, with possible alternative renderings relegated to footnotes as above. Now have a look at John Ch 8, vs 24, 28, and 58. Here Jesus identifies Himself three times as "I AM", not "I am he" as some Bible's put it, "he" does not appear in the original Greek. the two words are "EGO IME" and are taken from the Septuagint, a Greek translation of the OT made about 300 BC. These two words are taken from Exodus Ch 3 v 14, where God told Moses, "Say this to the people of Israel. I AM has sent me to you"... This is the most Sacred, and Holy name/description of the Lord our God it means "I HAVE BEEN WHAT I HAVE BEEN,I AM THAT/WHAT I AM, and I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE". This Title was also understood by the Jews to mean "The perpetually self revealing all existent one". It was considered so sacred by the Jews, that they were forbidden to pronounce it, when reading Scripture publicly. There was no doubt in the minds of those who heard Jesus, that He was claiming to be God. John 10:17-18. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. Note. Only God can raise Himself back from the dead. Who did Isaiah really see? Isa 6:1 IN the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Isa 6:2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. Isa 6:3 And one cried to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory!" Isa 6:4 And the posts of the door were shaken by the voice of him who cried out, and the house was filled with smoke. Isa 6:5 So I said: "Woe is me, for I am undone! Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; For my eyes have seen the King, The LORD of hosts." John referring to this passage said. To be continued. |
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92 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | ebrain | 181407 | ||
Hi Kalos. Thank you for your post With the exception of the second paragraph, I find myself in agreement with the extract you gave from www.gotquestions.org/could-Jesus-have-sinned.html, If the second paragraph is referring to the Deity only, and not the humanity of Jesus, then I agree with this also, but I am not happy with, "having full deity and full humanity so included in one person as to be indivisible". The problem as I see it is all too common with a lot of Christians, that is an inability to reconcile the Deity of our Lord Jesus, with His true humanity. Let me ask you a number of questions, but before I do so let me state that I have no problem with the fact that Jesus is God, as anyone will know who has read what I have had to say on that subject on this Forum, and as the many verses of Scripture I have quoted indicate. What follows might seem as if I am playing the Devil's Advocate. This is not in fact the case, but the verses I shall refer to could be used by his servants to undermine a believers faith. Unfortunately this is helped along by those Preachers who will say "Although we are considering the humanity of Jesus, let it be clearly understood that at no time was He any less than God". This teaching plays straight into the hands of the Evil one, who will try to use it to his advantage. Psalm 121:4 says "Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep". Jesus went to sleep in the back of a boat. Jesus did not know the time of His second coming, only the Father knows that. Jesus is refereed to as "My Servant" at Isaiah 52:13, which is where one should start to read Isaiah Ch 53. Tell me how can the servant of God, also at the same time be God? Psalm 22:1. Jesus cried out "My God My God", Tell me how it is possible that He who is God could possibly address Himself as My God? only someone who is not God could say this. Hebrews 2:9. "Made lower than the angels". Hebrews 10:7. "To do your will O God". 1 Corinthians 15:28. "Then the Son himself will also be subjected to him.....God". John 5:30. Please tell me why it is that God has to say "I can of my self do nothing". Why God has to say "As I hear I judge". who does He take advice from? Why is it that the only way in which God knows that His judgment is righteous, is because He dose not seek His own will? Why are we told at Acts 2:22, "God did through him", if it was Jesus who performed the Miracles? Philippines 2:9. How can you give someone something they already have? Note see Isaiah 45:22-23, for the application of this name. Rest assured that I have no problem with the verses I have quoted above, they do not prevent me from rejoicing in the fact that Jesus is God. Referring now to Coll 2:9. This is a verse that I especially love, and have used many times to indicate that the entire Godhead, that is all three persons suffered and died on the cross, and not just only the man Jesus. Now Kalos let make a statement with which I know you will be in full agreement. "The will of Jesus was at all times to do the will of His Father", please explain what He ment when He said "not my will", as in the verse bellow. Luk 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. Everyblessing. Edwin. |
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93 | Friday crucifixion | John 19:31 | ebrain | 181293 | ||
Subject: A problem with time. Our Lord Jesus said that he would be in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights i.e. 72 hours, however, the Gospel accounts indicate a period of only 37 hours at most. Can any one help me resolve this. Thank you Edwin. Please give the scripture verse where Jesus said three days and three nights, and also state how you arrived at 37 hours. Thank you for your questions. For 3 days and 3 nights, please read Matt Ch 12 v 40. The 37 hours or thereabouts is arrived at as follows. Read the 4 Resurrection accounts and you will find that our Lord rose from the dead at around dawn on the first day of the week i.e. 12 hours from the end of the Sabbath, then there are 24 hours during the Sabbath, and may be up to an hour on Friday. In that part of the world, and at that time of the year sunset, and sunrise were close to 6 PM and 6 AM. Jesus was on the cross from 9 am to 3 PM. Now read John Ch 19 v 31. There was about 3 hours to take down his body, prepare it for burial, transport same to the tomb, replace the stone, and seal it. I hope this helps you to understand my reasoning. May the Lord bless, and keep you safe. Edwin Brain. I am disappointed that I have not so far had any help with this question. Allow me to suggest a possible solution. First of all look at Exodus Ch 12 vs 1-20. and also Leviticus Ch 23 vs 4-8. Now what are the salient points. The Lamb is to be selected on the 10 th day, but not killed until the 14 th day, why 4 days?, answer later on. The Passover continues on into the Feast of unleavened bread which is a feast of 7 days duration, with a Sabbath at each end. Now what does this teach me about the week in which our Lord allowed himself to be killed. That there are 2 Sabbaths in this week, the Sabbaths are at the start, and finish i.e. the first, and last, the alpha, and omega. speaking of the Lord God himself. what is leaven but a picture of sin, therefore no leaven indicates sinlessness, what is the duration of this feast, 7 days, what does 7 indicate, Divine perfection i.e. sinless perfection.. So the lamb points forward to the time when the Lord God himself, who is sinlessly perfect will lay down his life during a week which has 2 Sabbaths in it. Now let us see if the Gospel accounts indicate a 2nd Sabbath that week. Look first at John Ch 19 v 31. "for that Sabbath was a special Sabbath" why? special, could this suggest an additional Sabbath that week, well now look at Matt Ch 28 v 1. Here is a problem as most English translations read Sabbath, but have a look at the Greek text, and you will find that it is a plural noun i.e. Sabbaths. Now if we assume that Friday was the other Sabbath, and move the crucifixion back to Thursday, then we have 3 nights, but only some 61 hours, and still not 72 hours, however if you use Divine time measurement, and not human time measurement, i.e. "There was evening,and there was morning one day" and I can find 3 evenings, and 3 mornings then I will have 3 days. There is Thursday evening, Friday evening, and Saturday evening, Friday morning, Saturday morning, and Sunday morning 3 days. Now what about that 4 days I mentioned earlier, if our Lord was killed on Thursday, then what day is 4 days earlier, Palm Sunday of course. The Triumphal Entry and what else was also happening on that same day, every family in the land was choosing the lamb to be killed, and now that Jesus had presented himself to the Leaders of the Nation they had four days in which to examine him to see if there was any blemish, or spot, and when they could find none kill him. QED, I rest my case. Isn't it great being a Christian. May the Lord bless you all ,and keep you safe. Edwin Brain. |
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94 | What happens immediatly after you die? | 2 Corinthians | ebrain | 180624 | ||
Hi Jeff. Thank you for your post, and kind words of encouragement. Your apology is accepted, and as you can see fellowship is restored. I do not feel ,however, that there is any point in continuing our exchanges on the subject of "Soul Sleep", for the very reason that you have given, as bellow. "The conclusions that I have read by most teachers (who I respect and trust) is that the bible simply does not clearly defend either position". You have your view, I have my view, let's leave it at that. Every blessing. Edwin. |
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95 | What happens immediatly after you die? | 2 Corinthians | ebrain | 180554 | ||
You have said. "I am confident that you are aware of the biblical evidence that weakens, if not totally defeats, your teaching here." For you to claim that I have posted material to this Forum, which I know to be false, is both insulting, and offensive. For this reason, I see no point in further replying to your post. |
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96 | What happens immediatly after you die? | 2 Corinthians | ebrain | 180552 | ||
Hi Tim. Thank you for your post. which I found helpfull, although I doubt if Saul ended up in paradise, at the risk of being judgmental, I think it more than likely that his destination would have been hades. May the Lord bless you.. Edwin. (ebrain) |
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97 | What happens immediatly after you die? | 2 Corinthians | ebrain | 180551 | ||
Hi BradK. Thank you for your post, which I found both helpfull, and informative. I have a question in respect of Luke 16:19-31, on which I would value your advice. How is the rich man's soul able to "see" Lazarus, when it is no longer in his body? Thank you. Edwin. (ebrain) |
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98 | What happens immediatly after you die? | 2 Corinthians | ebrain | 180508 | ||
Continuation Part 3. Jhn 4:24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." In order for God who is Spirit, to pay the penalty for your sin, and mine, He must have a body. Hbr 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: "Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me. As the events described at 1 Thes 4:13-18, have not as yet taken place, then thoes believers who have gong to be with Jesus, cannot possibly have bodies, and therfore will not be able to see, hear, touch, taste, talk, and so on,,, be able to make contact with others, and especially to be able to interact with his Maker. They will as Scripture says "be asleep in Christ". As the Judgement seat of Christ is also still future, then if those "who sleep in Jesus" are not really asleep at all, then some of them will have waited almost 2000 years to be Judged. ebrain. |
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99 | What happens immediatly after you die? | 2 Corinthians | ebrain | 180507 | ||
Continuation Part 2, Question: I don’t understand the White Throne Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ and the Final Judgment. In what order will they occur and briefly explain each one? Answer: Here is the chronological order. The Judgment Seat of Christ: This is the judgment of Church saints that will happen after the Rapture to Heaven and before the actual wedding ceremony in Heaven. The purpose of this judgment is not to put our sins on display since our sins are covered forever by the blood of Messiah, but rather an evaluation judgment as to how we lived once we were saved. If we were serving the Lord, we would be building with gold, silver and precious stone, but those times when we were not serving the Lord we would be building with wood, hay, and stubble. At this judgment the wood, hay, and stubble would simply be burned away and the gold, silver and precious stone will be purified. What is left will determine our reward and our position in the Messianic Kingdom. Thus by the time of the wedding ceremony, all that is showing on the bride will be the “righteous acts of the saints”. The Scriptures for this include, Romans 14:10-12; II Corinthians 5:10; I Corinthians 3:10-15; Revelation 19:6-8. The Final Judgment:This is a special judgment of all Gentiles who survive the Tribulation and will be held at the Valley of Jehoshaphat, the valley that separates Jerusalem from the Mount of Olives. The basis of the judgment is anti-Semitism or pro- Semitism (how these people treated the Jews during this period). The believers of the Tribulation evidenced by their pro-Semitism will be the ones to enter the Messianic Kingdom and populate the Gentile nations of the kingdom. The goat Gentiles are the unbelievers of the Tribulation who showed their lack of faith by their anti-Semitic works and therefore they will be killed and not enter the Messianic Kingdom. It is over the sheep Gentiles that the Church saints will co-rule. The Scriptures include Joel 3:1-3; Matthew 25:31-46. The Great White Throne Judgment: This is what is meant when people talk about “The Final Judgment” but it is a judgment of all unbelievers of all time, not to determine whether they were saved or not, but to determine the degree of their punishment in the Lake of Fire. Their names have been blotted out of the Book of Life, showing that they never believed and therefore were worthy to stand the judgment. The “other books” and their biographies that will in turn determine their degree of punishment. The Scriptures here include Revelation 20:11-15. For more details see our book entitled The Footsteps of the Messiah: The Study of the Sequence of Prophetic Events. As you can see from Rev 9:6 above, man must retain his body, in order to experience the pain of punishment for those who are not saved, and conversely the indescrible joys of Heaven in the presance of Our Lord Jesus, for those who are saved. |
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100 | What happens immediatly after you die? | 2 Corinthians | ebrain | 180506 | ||
would like to say somthing more on the subject of "Soul Sleep", and the necessity for a "Body". At the start God said at Gen 1:26 "Let Us make man in Our image, acording to Our likness". Man was made a Triunity, See 1Th 5:23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now I am well aware that some will say that the soul and the spirit are one and the same, I have no problem with this as it in no way affects what I intend to say. Man as an entity has a psychical part, his body, and a non psychical part which I will refer to as his soul. Now why one might ask has God chosen to give man a body? answer, in order that the soul of a man might be able to, see, hear, touch, taste, talk, and so on,,, be able to make contact with others, and especially to be able to interact with his Maker. At this point. I would like you to read the following extracts before I say anything further. Question: In Revelation 9 concerning the 5th trumpet judgment, what is your view on men committing suicide and not being able to die? Someone asked if a person threw himself into a furnace and became a pile of ash, how would he be tormented? Also is there a clear Scripture that states the devil enters the Antichrist? Answer: Revelation 9:6 states that all attempts of suicide will simply fail. It does not give us the specifics but the fact that God is in control of human affairs shows that he can accomplish these things accordingly. For example, if a man tries to shoot himself in the head, God can easily cause the gun to fail to fire. So no matter what man tries to do to die in order to avoid suffering, he will simply fail. All attempts of suicide simply will not succeed. The correlation to Satan and the Antichrist is found in passages such as II Thessalonians 2:9; Daniel 8:23- 25; 11:36-39. What these passages show is that the Antichrist would be Satan controlled and a Satan energized being trying to set up a world conquest. These passages clearly show that Satan is controlling this person. There is no passage that says Satan actually enters him, but these other passages will indicate the possibility. Even if he does not enter him, it still shows that he is under total satanic control. Furthermore, the Bible does state that Satan entered Judas and also calls him the “son of perdition”. The same title is given to the Antichrist which can also imply that he will be Satan indwelled. To be continued. |
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