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81 | Questioning Apostasy | John 10:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 207651 | ||
Son of god, I’m not wanting to debate the once saved always saved, the very reason I responded as a question to change the topic. My question was specific to your comment that you question apostasy when it is very clearly spoken of in scripture, more than a few times. If your answer is that when scripture speaks of apostasy that it refers to only the unsaved, well then, that was all I wanted to know. My concern was that you seemed to object to something that is without a doubt confirmed with scripture, for there is a falling away. Is what you are saying then, that you don’t necessarily question apostasy, but rather to whom it applies in scripture? Surely, apostasy is a fact. And you contradict yourself simply by claiming to question apostasy and then immediately say “those that fall away were never saved in the first place”. If you question apostasy, how could you believe there is a falling away? That’s kind of like saying I don’t believe in the boogie man when he is not scaring me, see what I’m saying? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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82 | Death God's friend or enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | Wild Olive Shoot | 207589 | ||
Dear FlintyJoe, Help me if you would. I’m trying to figure out where you stand concerning our unchanging God. In post 207567 you state: “Yes, he put thousands of people to death in the OT, but he's chilled out since then - since he watched his precious first-born die an excruciating death while ungrateful nominal Jews looked on and mocked." But in post 207527 you state: “God has not changed so that “he deals with us differently than he did back in the Old Testament.” Which is it Joe? Has he chilled out or has he not chilled out? I’m curious as this point jumped out at me while reading over your posts. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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83 | Questioning Apostasy | John 10:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 207588 | ||
Dear Rolff, I'm sorry. There was only one question, I simply asked it twice, maybe for emphasis, once at the beginning of the post and then again at the end. The question was asked in response to the statement made in the post it was attached to, that said, "on that note I question the doctrine of apostacy". (sic) Let me rephrase and asked only once: In light of the scripture posted with the initial question I had, how can one truly question apostasy? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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84 | Careful Bible Study -- Not Mysticism | Jer 23:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 206917 | ||
You mention a fascination with honor in your profile. How about applying yourself to learn of “biblical” honor or rather a Christian honor which involves love and respect of the brethren? After all, that is what we are here to do, to study and learn and grow. I don’t know much about the klingon culture, but I’m sure there aren’t many klingons that are Christian. How about learning from the brothers and sisters who share joy in he Lord. I’m just saying, maybe your focus should be on Christian honor. A good place to start may be: 1Peter 2:17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; “A respectful love: In honour preferring one another. Instead of contending for superiority, let us be forward to give to others the pre-eminence. This is explained, Phi_2:3, Let each esteem other better than themselves. And there is this good reason for it, because, if we know our own hearts, we know more evil by ourselves than we do by any one else in the world. We should be forward to take notice of the gifts, and graces, and performances of our brethren, and value them accordingly, be more forward to praise another, and more pleased to hear another praised, than ourselves - going before, or leading one another in honour; so some read it: not in taking honour, but in giving honour. “Strive which of you shall be most forward to pay respect to those to whom it is due, and to perform all Christian offices of love (which are all included in the word honour) to your brethren, as there is occasion. Let all your contention be which shall be most humble, and useful, and condescending.” So the sense is the same with Tit_3:14, Let them learn, - to go before in good works. For though we must prefer others (as our translation reads it), and put on others, as more capable and deserving than ourselves, yet we must not make that an excuse for our lying by and doing nothing, nor under a pretence of honouring others, and their serviceableness and performances, indulge ourselves in ease and slothfulness.” – Matthew Henry Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. There wasn’t necessarily a problem with your “questions”, only with the way you asked them. It seemed incredibly disrespectful to say the very least and that makes some question your motives for asking in the first place. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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85 | Careful Bible Study -- Not Mysticism | Jer 23:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 206898 | ||
Dear Quvmoh, If a particular subject or post doesn't interest you, it is becoming of a Christian brother or sister to make no response at all rather than make one as you did. Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; Stand in His grace, WOS |
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86 | How Far Are We To Suffer For Christ? | 1 Pet 4:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 206839 | ||
Dear Azure, I wish I could have put my thoughts to this as clearly as you have. Thank you. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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87 | How Far Are We To Suffer For Christ? | 1 Pet 4:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 206835 | ||
"True it is," said the bishop, "that death is bitter, and life is sweet; but alas! consider that the death to come is more bitter, and the life to come is more sweet." -- http://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/fox116.htm And then not long after speaking those words, John Hooper spent near 45 minutes in the fire before he would finally yield his life. He trusted in Jesus to the end because he knew what was to come. What he suffered here and now couldn’t compare to what he looked forward to and knew. Our trust, our faith, is to be in Christ, not our riches. Your friends need to know that money or wealth is not necessarily the bad thing, unless in fact they set it up as an idol which from your description seems evident, or of course they are obtaining it through sinful measures. Continuing to do that and refusing to abide in Christ has consequences far more dire than simply having a ruined life here in this world. Wouldn’t you agree? Much rather to suffer here than eternally. Have you spoken of the grace of God with your friends? Have you informed them what riches are in store for them with faith in Jesus? Have you pointed them to the Word that actually has the power to help them? They just need turn to Him. Now is that time. Mark 10:23 -30: 23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? 27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible. 28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. 29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.” Stand in His grace, WOS |
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88 | once saved, always saved-Bible location | NT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 206527 | ||
Dear Cheri, I understand the question you have. Romans 11:23 answers that very well I thought. Like I’ve said a few times throughout the thread, “once saved always saved” is only a prelude to deeper doctrines and the phrase itself does not really represent those doctrines well. One must dig into perseverance and election which is what the phrase itself alludes to. I would recommend you do that. With that, I think we need to take searchers advice and leave this discussion and let those still wondering to search out the history for themselves. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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89 | once saved, always saved-Bible location | NT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 206524 | ||
Dear Cheri, I think we need to understand, that the natural branches weren’t simply cut off to make “room” for the gentiles, but because of their “unbelief”. Unbelief on our part will result in the same. That’s the warning isn’t it? However, God’s elect will never be permanently cut off. As with the natural braches removed God can graft them back in. Romans 11:23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. Matthew Henry puts this into perspective that might be easier to understand. By God’s grace we are brought in and by His strength we stand: “Grace is given, not to make us proud, but to make us thankful. The law of faith excludes all boasting either of ourselves or against others. “Do not say (Rom_11:19): They were broken off that I might be grafted in; that is, do not think that thou didst merit more at the hand of God than they, or didst stand higher in his favour.” “But remember, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Though thou art grafted in, thou art still but a branch borne by the root; nay, and an engrafted branch, brought into the good olive contrary to nature (Rom_11:24), not free-born, but by an act of grace enfranchised and naturalized.”… …“By what means thou standest: By faith, which is a depending grace, and fetches in strength from heaven. Thou dost not stand in any strength of thy own, of which thou mightest be confident: thou art no more than the free grace of God makes thee, and his grace is his own, which he gives or withholds at pleasure. That which ruined them was unbelief, and by faith thou standest; therefore thou hast no faster hold than they had, thou standest on no firmer foundation than they did.” [2.] “On what terms (Rom_11:22): Towards thee goodness, if thou continue in his goodness, that is, continue in a dependence upon and compliance with the free grace of God, the want of which it was that ruined the Jews - if thou be careful to keep up thine interest in the divine favour, by being continually careful to please God and fearful of offending him.” The sum of our duty, the condition of our happiness, is to keep ourselves in the love of God. Fear the Lord and his goodness. Hos_3:5.” – Matthew Henry Stand in His grace, WOS |
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90 | once saved, always saved-Bible location | NT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 206517 | ||
More Christ like sounds better don't you think? WOS |
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91 | once saved, always saved-Bible location | NT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 206515 | ||
Hey Hoppy, I too am a Westminster sort of guy, I think? I think Chapters 10 and 17 address the question at the top of this thread. I think the site reference you made however was perfectly fine. I just thought a different section addressed the question better. But that’s how I view the once saved always saved, sort of as a prelude to election and perseverance. The phrase itself doesn’t really explain much, but it should lead us into digging deeper into the individual doctrines. I think your reference was fine. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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92 | once saved, always saved-Bible location | NT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 206505 | ||
Hi Hoppy, I think "God's Purpose of Grace" at the same site better answers the question at hand. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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93 | Praying to the Holy Spirit? | John 14:14 | Wild Olive Shoot | 206280 | ||
Someone is not paying attention.:) Here is some help for you bowler and welcome to the forum, but you will have to read the rest yourself. Stand in His grace, WOS 30. Prayer for Love Toward God The Addressee of This Prayer Let us now consider the Addressee of this prayer. Who is meant by "the Lord" here? We answer unhesitatingly, the third Person of the blessed Trinity, the One who is designated "Lord" in 1 Corinthians 12:5, and "the Spirit of the Lord" in 2 Corinthians 3:18. First, this is clear from the fact that in our present verse He is definitely distinguished from "God" and "Christ," so that reference is here made to the Eternal Three. Second, this fact is borne out by what is here asked of Him: "The Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into patient waiting for Christ." Now it is the distinguishing work of the Spirit to develop our graces and to regulate their exercise. As "the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us" (Rom. 5:5), so love is called forth into action by Him. Third, since the Spirit is co-essential and co-eternal with the Father and the Son, He is worthy of our homage. Nowhere in Scripture is there the least hint that one Person in the Godhead must be excluded from the praises which we give to the Lord. On the contrary, the Spirit is to be publically owned and equally honored with the Father and the Son. This is clear from Matthew 28:19; to be baptized in His name is an act of worship. It is evident again from the place accorded Him in the Christian benediction (2 Cor. 13:14). We are expressly commanded to "worship and bow down . . . before the LORD our maker" (Ps. 95:6). That the third Person is included in that command is plain: "The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life" (Job 33:4; cf. Job 26:13 with Ps. 33:6). Instruction is given to pray to "the Lord of the harvest" (Matthew 9:38). During the days of His earthly ministry Christ sustained that office, as appears from His choosing the apostles and sending forth the seventy. But since His ascension, the Holy Spirit fulfills that ministry (see Acts 13:2, 4; 20:28). The Spirit now calls and equips the "laborers," assigns them their work, and blesses them in it. http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Gleanings_Paul/paul_30.htm |
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94 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205741 | ||
Dear believer, Accepting the Bible as fact puts you on very solid ground. Great place to be my friend. And welcome to the forum. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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95 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205739 | ||
What's interesting is that it seems we tend to find the science that supports our sinful way of life. Anything we can do to justify our ungodliness. Don't you think folks tend to fall in line with 2Timothy 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, Many people believe science can show them the truth and save them, I know I used to. 1Corinthians 1:18-31: 18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart." 20 Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 26 For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord." The odd thing to me is that it seems science is forever changing to support popular opinion or current cultural standards or beliefs. The Bible on the other hand has showed that truth will endure and that truth is always truth. Fact over theory and truth over speculation. That’s what we need to keep in mind. We need to encourage others to dive into His word and learn the truth. And then stand in His grace. WOS |
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96 | Idiom? | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205629 | ||
Jim, Your study has not produced sufficient evidence for you to see that when the words were spoken, it was NOT an idiom because it was well understood at the time, and I believe there was scriptural evidence provided to support that it was, as well as some reliable commentary. So clearly there is some other means that makes it difficult for you to understand what the meaning is. It would seem, simply, that was the manner of speaking in that day. Since neither you nor I were actually there, we must also rely on the wisdom of those who have proven reliable and devoted their lives to helping us better understand God’s words and the times in which they were spoken. Words and phrases and manners of speaking do change over time and the words spoken can have a sure meaning to the present audience and us, in our time and culture, we may have difficulty understanding them. That doesn’t by definition make it an idiom, just simply from another time and more difficult to comprehend without proper instruction. Now, you claim this to be an idiom “outside of scripture”, that someone at sometime decided it was an idiom. That is just wrong brother, I don’t know how else to explain it. It’s not an idiom, never was and no matter how strongly you argue it is, will never be. It is Jim that makes the claim it is an idiom, Scripture never does. I’ll stick with the scripture, shouldn’t you? Bottom line seems to be this, rather than arguing this on such shaky ground, maybe you should be in prayer for the proper understanding. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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97 | Help! Unclean vs clean meat? | Acts | Wild Olive Shoot | 205573 | ||
Colt, Whatsoever thing goes into the belly cannot defile the man for it is purged there, in the belly. What does that imply to you? Only the dirt from our hands is cleaned??? That food, unclean food can actually enter our heart and defile us??? That dirt can defile us??? Come now, logic has to play a part here does it not? Whatsoever thing enters does not affect the heart. You have no ground to stand on here friend. Is it that difficult to see? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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98 | Idiom? | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205571 | ||
From what I can gather, it wasn’t an idiom if it was understood by those the words were spoken to. From what I can gather, and I wasn’t there so I must rely on those far more knowledgeable than I, but it was understood by the audience that a part of a day would constitute a whole day. “It will be seen in the account of the resurrection of Christ that he was in the grave but two nights and a part of three days. See Mat_18:6. This computation is, however, strictly in accordance with the Jewish mode of reckoning. If it had “not” been, the Jews would have understood it, and would have charged our Saviour as being a false prophet, for it was well known to them that he had spoken this prophecy, Mat_27:63. Such a charge, however, was never made; and it is plain, therefore, that what was “meant” by the prediction was accomplished.” - Albert Barnes Matthew 27:62,63: 62 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, 63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again. Just because we may have difficulty understanding a phrase or word usage in our time, doesn’t mean they didn’t understand it perfectly when it was spoken. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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99 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205492 | ||
Dear lookinforacity, Please tell us then how you take the verses in light of 2Timothy 3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Should we simply dismiss it? If we can’t apply the scripture in question to ourselves, to whom is it applied and how does it instruct us? Please elaborate. What is the different light shed on what our brother Steve posted? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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100 | Scripture above scripture? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205425 | ||
Brother lionheart, I agree that certain manuscripts (not the original autographs) can be held as more reliable. My concern is with Scripture. I can remember a while back on the Forum when a poster seemed to hold the writings of Paul in higher esteem than the rest of Scripture. I also hear quite often a statement along the lines of “Jesus said this” in a manner of dismissing some other part of Scripture based simply on the fact that Jesus spoke it and it was recorded. I think it is important to view all Scripture in the proper perspective of being God-breathed and therefore all as equally important being a revelation from God, even though as you say, we focus on certain portions at various times. I was wondering if others observed the danger of lessening a portion of Scripture, even if done unintentionally, and to that if they even realize that is what they do, while promoting another and if this was something others see with a bit a frequency. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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