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761 | What's this about the Rapture? | Rev 4:1 | Radioman2 | 79565 | ||
You write: "If christians are around when the anti-christ and other things happen, they could Stop them from happing." Actually, regardless of WHEN the rapture takes place, there will be believers on earth when the Antichrist and other things happen (Revelation 6:9-11; 7:9, 13-14). These believers cannot and will not stop the Antichrist. You write: "There is an Order of Presedence. In other words i.e. God had to send Moses...then had to stop the Egyptians...split the waters...and so on." God sent judgment upon the Egyptians in the form of the ten plagues WHILE the children of Israel were still dwelling in Egypt -- before the Exodus. |
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762 | GOD CAST SATAN FROM HEAVEN? | Rev 12:4 | Radioman2 | 95321 | ||
Hank: Your note reminded me of the following quotation. "Science does not contradict the Bible. Oh, hundreds of times, the Bible has contradicted science – and science has in due turn been found to be wrong.” (Truths That Transform - D. James Kennedy) --Radioman2 |
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763 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87192 | ||
He who overcomes shall thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life. Revelation 3:5 "It is unfortunate that this passage in Revelation has become a focal point of controversy. The result has been a fixation on what the verse does not say rather than what it does say. This verse was never intended as a warning. Within its context there is nothing negative or foreboding about these words. In fact, it makes a strong statement in favor of eternal security. It is a passage of encouragement and praise. "The comments are directed to a group of faithful believers from the church in Sardis. Unlike the majority of the folks in their congregation, this handful of members had remained unsoiled by the world around them. The verse in question contains Christ's commendation to this group for their consistent walk. "To assume from what is said here that God will possibly erase names from the book of life is to read into the text a concept clearly not present. At best, it is an argument from silence, for the verse simply reads, "And I will not erase his name from the book of life." If this statement raises doubts for some about eternal security, they would do well to search the Scriptures for an answer. But to base one's answer to this important question on this verse is to adopt a method of study with the potential of leading to all kinds of problematic conclusions." (...) "The good news is, God's pencil has no eraser. Before you breathed your first word, God knew how you would respond to His offer of grace. According to His foreknowledge, He wrote your name in the book of life. And there it shall remain forever. Jesus said it this way: "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow me; and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. John 10.27-28 "And as if that were not clear enough: "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. John 10.29 " (To read the entire article, which I suggest you do before you post questions, go to: http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/bible_says/eternal_security/erase_149096.html) |
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764 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87213 | ||
"To read the entire article, which I suggest you do before you post questions, go to: (http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/bible_says/eternal_security/erase_149096.html)" -- ID# 87192 |
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765 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87242 | ||
EdB, ID# 87217: "PS I didn't ask any questions." EdB, ID# 87195 (EdB's previous post): 1) "He could if He wanted erase any name He desired from the book of life. Does God ever do this?" 2) "Why do we even care about it?" 3) "Are any of us thinking of testing God to see what we can get away with before He would erase us?" 4) "The whole discussion is about soemthing none of us can explain with certainity so why try?" Rhetorical questions are not questions? Yes, they are. Rhetorical QUESTIONS are still QUESTIONS. Any sentence that ends in a question mark, by definition, is a question. A period ends a statement. An exclamation point ends an exclamation. A question mark ends a question. "To read the entire article, which I suggest you do before you post questions, go to: (http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/bible_says/eternal_security/erase_149096.html)" -- ID# 87192 |
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766 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87246 | ||
If you "don't think this passage (Rev 13:8 ) is the focal point of anything," then: Why build an anti-Election doctrine upon it? Why debate it? Why use it as a primary proof-text in the argument against Eternal Salvation? It seems a contradiction to me that people would use this verse to prove Eternal In-security, if it is not the focal point of anything. It's like one minute they're saying this verse carries a lot of weight, and the next minute they're saying this verse has little weight in the discussion. |
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767 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87276 | ||
Rev 22:19 American Standard Version (1901) and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. NASB and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. NIV And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. NRSV if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Holman Christian Standard Bible And if anyone takes away from the words of this prophetic book, God will take away his share of the tree of life and the holy city, written in this book. TEV And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book. New Living Translation And if anyone removes any of the words of this prophetic book, God will remove that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book. New Century Version And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away that one's share of the tree of life and of the holy city, which are written about in this book. GOD'S WORD Translation If anyone takes away any words from this book of prophecy, God will take away his portion of the tree of life and the holy city that are described in this book. World English Bible If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. The Bible in Basic English And if any man takes away from the words of this book, God will take away from him his part in the tree of life and the holy town, even the things which are in this book. The Darby Translation And if any one take from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. Wesley's New Testament and that if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the holy city--the things described in this book. The point of my answer is that in Revelation 22:19 the editors of the NASB, NIV and 11 other translations of the Bible chose the reading "tree of life" rather than "the book of life." In these 13 translations "How does God take away his part out of the book of life?" becomes a moot question. |
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768 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87278 | ||
Repost of ID# 28726 by Morant61 The Nestle Aland Text, the UBS Text, the Majority Text all use the phrase 'apo tou xulou tas zoas.' (I'm not sure of the transliteration). The phrase is translated "from the tree of life." The Textus Receptus and Scrivener's Text both use the phrase 'apo biblou tas zoas.' This phrase is translated "from book of life." Both the Textus Receptus (which the KJV is based upon) and Scrivener's Text used only a handful of manuscripts in the compliation of their text. As a result, there are ocassionally readings which are not supported by the better Greek texts. This is one of those cases! By the way, the word 'tree' is Strongs number #3586. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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769 | Stanley reliance. Burning building quest | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87341 | ||
Ecargneb: Your apology is accepted and appreciated, although not necessary. I am not offended. Nor do I feel that it was your intent to belittle my contributions. Further, in the context of this thread only, I can understand why you referred to a reliance upon Charles Stanley. Also, the intent of my previous note was not to scold you, but merely to set the record straight. So there is no harm done. I esteem you as highly as ever. Everything is OK. Grace and peace be multiplied to you! Radioman2 |
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770 | Please explain Revelation 14:12 ? | Rev 14:1 | Radioman2 | 83997 | ||
Norrie: For help in understanding the details of the book of Revelation, I recommend the following website: (www.revelationcommentary.org/) Grace and peace, Radioman2 |
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771 | Please explain Revelation 14:12 ? | Rev 14:1 | Radioman2 | 84212 | ||
"There is no textual basis to support those who claim that the 144,000 are any entity other than physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. To spiritualize the 144,000 into a Christian group violates the plain sense of the text." - - - - - - - - - - - - - Norrie: In reference to Revelation 7:4-8, you write: 'Are they spiritual Jews which keep the Law of God (which is spiritual) (see the reference to the 144,000 being from every tribe of Israel--Revelation 7:1-10)? i.e., the 144,000 represent the Christian church at the end of time, since they believe in Christ, which is made up of both Jews and Gentiles.' Consider the following. 'Revelation 7:4-8 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, (2) one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: from Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben… Gad… Asher… Naphtali… Manasseh… Simeon… Levi… Issachar… Zebulun… Joseph… Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed. '2. One hundred and forty-four thousand - this number has received great consideration. Speculations abound. It is sad that commentators do not take this number literally. To denominate the number by 12,000 adds to the literal nature of this figure. We are not told why 12, 000 are chosen, but that twelve thousand are chosen is clear. 'There is no textual basis to support those who claim that the 144,000 are any entity other than physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. To spiritualize the 144,000 into a Christian group violates the plain sense of the text. John gives the reader every detail necessary to correctly identify this group. The critical phrase "from every tribe of the sons of Israel" should settle any debate about their identity. This phrase always refers to physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Out of six hundred and thirty-five occurrences of this phrase throughout the Scriptures, Revelation 7:4 would be the only exception. There is no compelling reason to spiritualize away the literal sense. Every tribe of the sons of Israel has solid biblical support as a referent of Jews only.' (www.revelationcommentary.org/07_chapter.html) |
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772 | "Babylon the Mother of False Religions" | Rev 17:5 | Radioman2 | 76242 | ||
"Main Entry: gee Function: interjection Etymology: euphemism for Jesus" (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary) Searcher: Thank you for pointing out the etymology of the word "gee". This word is offensive also to me. P.S. Isis. "Main Entry: Isis : an Egyptian nature goddess and wife and sister of Osiris" (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary) "Isis was a magician, possibly the archetype for the high priestess of the tarot. She learned her magic from Thoth, although according to some legends she obtained her powers from Ra himself by tricking him into revealing his name to her, thus acquiring his full magical knowledge." (http://www.crystalinks.com/isis.html) |
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773 | Isn’t this playing with the text? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79204 | ||
'The most widespread change in the Watchtower Bible is the insertion of the name JEHOVAH 237 times in the New Testament. Of course, it is appropriate for a translator to choose to use the divine name JEHOVAH or YAHWEH in the Old Testament where the Tetragrammator YHWH actually appears in the Hebrew text. However, the Watchtower has gone beyond this by inserting the name JEHOVAH in the New Testament, where it does not appear in Greek manuscripts. One need only look at the word-by-word English that appears under the Greek text in the Society's own Kingdom Interlinear Translation to see that the name JEHOVAH is not there in the Greek.' (http://www.watchman.org/jw/nwt.htm) |
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774 | Isn’t this playing with the text? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79207 | ||
'Thus, the WBTS makes a reasonable case for using the sacred name in the Old Testament and criticizing those who do not. However, in their translation of the New Testament, which they call The Christian Greek Scriptures, they commit an even more grievous and presumptuous error. The NWT inexplicably translates the common Greek words for Lord (kurios) and God (Theos) as "Jehovah" 237 times in the New Testament. This unwarranted substitutionary use of the Old Testament name of God is made, however, only when kurios is used in the context of a clear reference to God in a generic sense, or when used in a passage that is a quote from the Old Testament. However, not once do they translate kurios as Jehovah in the nearly 400 times in the New Testament when it is applied as a title to Jesus Christ. There is simply no legitimate textual or linguistic basis for making that distinction. The word kurios should always be accurately translated, according to context, as Lord or Master, and the word Theos as God, but never either as "Jehovah." 'The reason for the NWT committee’s placement of this name of God in the New Testament is obvious to anyone who understands Jehovah’s Witnesses theology. The WBTS, since its inception over a century ago, has totally rejected the key doctrines of the Holy Trinity and the full deity of Jesus Christ. As a result, in their literature, and especially in their translation of the Bible, they have sought to obscure the clear New Testament teachings of those truths. This deliberate concealment is obvious when one makes a simple comparison of the NWT to the word-for-word translation of the Westcott and Hort Greek Text in the WBTS’ own book The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures (1985). 'The use of Jehovah to translate kurios (Lord) or Theos (God) 237 times in generic reference to God, but never as a title of Jesus, was clearly done to reinforce the distinction between God and Jesus in the minds of uninformed Jehovah’s Witnesses. The truth is that the New Testament writers, following Jewish tradition in the Greek Septuagint’s translation of the Old Testament, understood the term kurios (Lord), in most cases, to be a reference to deity in the fullest sense. Thus, when New Testament writers call Jesus "Lord," they are identifying Him with the God of the Old Testament (Yahweh or Jehovah).' (http://www.namb.net/root/resources/beliefbulletins/cults/new_world_translation.asp) |
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775 | Isn’t this playing with the text? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79266 | ||
Truthfinder: You are correct. Earlier today when I replied to your previous post, I had not yet gone to the links you provided and read what was there. I have just now come from those websites and read what you recommended. For me not to read what you recommended would be somewhat discourteous to you and unfair of me. Well, I have read what you asked me to. I'm still not convinced. But I prefer not to get into a dispute over it. :-) Thank you for your recommendations. Radioman2 |
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776 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79368 | ||
Tim: You're right. There is no manuscript evidence whatsoever. I see a lot of speculation and conjecture, but no evidence. The Watchtower organization claims that Jehovah "must" have been and "should" have been in the original Greek texts of the NT. But MUST be and SHOULD be do not equal IS. The NWT translates on the basis of what the JWs think "should" have been there. The KJV, NKJV, RSV, ASV, NASB, NIV, etc. translate on the basis of what IS there. "One need only look at the word-by-word English that appears under the Greek text in the Society's own Kingdom Interlinear Translation to see that the name JEHOVAH is not there in the Greek.'" (http://www.watchman.org/jw/nwt.htm) |
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777 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79381 | ||
How would I rate the NWT as far as accuracy, honesty, and trustworthiness? On a scale of 1 to 10, with the KJV, NASB, Amplified being 1 and the Koran being 10, I would give the New World Translation a rating of 11. | ||||||
778 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79434 | ||
Yes, perhaps by rating the NWT I do give it a degree of credibility -- right under the Koran! :-) | ||||||
779 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79439 | ||
'Salvation Without Conversion?' John Hagee "...believes that Jewish people do not need to be saved, since they are under a different covenant' (http://www.equip.org/free/DE405.htm). - - - - - - - - - - - - - Reformer Joe: Thank you for pointing out that "...many contemporary Christians are so theologically confused that they think that somehow all Jews are God's people and are somehow going to be saved apart from Y'shua their Messiah." John Hagee is one who not only believes, but also propagates, this false doctrine: 'Salvation Without Conversion? 'Hagee is recognized as a fierce foe of anti-Semitism... 'While his bold stance against anti-Semitism is certainly praiseworthy, Hagee’s zealousness for the Jewish people and their cause has led him to commit a most serious doctrinal error — salvation for the Jews without conversion to Christianity. One newspaper account puts it this way: 'Trying to convert Jews is a “waste of time,” he [Hagee] said. . . . 'Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha’i, needs to believe in Jesus, he says. But not Jews. Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced with Christianity, he says. '“The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses,” Hagee said. “I believe that every Gentile person can only come to God through the cross of Christ. I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption. '“The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God until God gives him a greater revelation. And God has not,” said Hagee . . .[9] '“There are right now Jewish people on this earth who have a powerful and special relationship with God,” declares Hagee in one of his books. “...Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that “all the Jews are lost” and can’t be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity! . . . there are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now...” [10] 'Hagee also affirms: “If God blinded the Jewish people to the identity of Jesus as Messiah, how could He send them to hell for not seeing what he had forbidden them to see?”[11] He continues, “All people will gain entrance into heaven through Christ. The question is one of timing.” [12] 'Such rhetoric raises some thorny questions. When Hagee says “all people will gain entrance into heaven through Christ,” he is either advocating universalism (literally all people — Jewish and Gentile — will be saved), or he believes that all Jews will be saved. In either case, both positions are in serious error, but the latter is more consistent with his other statements' (http://www.equip.org/free/DH005.htm). To read the footnotes go to: (http://www.equip.org/free/DH005.htm). |
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780 | "Release" and "faith" not in same verse. | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 90674 | ||
"do what the Bible says and release that faith"? Where in the Bible does it say that? An online search of the King James Version of the Bible resulted in 18 verses in which the word "release" appears. And yet the word "faith" does not appear in the same verse as the word "release" anywhere in this translation. An online search of the New American Standard Bible resulted in 31 verses in which the word "release" appears. And yet the word "faith" does not appear in the same verse as the word "release" anywhere in this translation. |
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