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61 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | MJH | 214816 | ||
keliy, Tithing aside, your post here concerning dispensations got my juices flowing and it's hard not to get overly passionate. Sorry. Also, sorry if this is post is not in line with the forum rules; it's a bit of a question I agree, so delete "me" if you must, I'd understand. That being said, I must disagree in the strongest of terms. I believe that your post is an example of interpreting the Scriptures based on your theology rather than deriving your theology from Scripture. (I appreciate you, keliy, so don't take that in the wrong spirit.) You said, "between the Cross of Christ and the Crown of Christ, which is referred to as the dispensation of Grace." Under that thinking then what pray tell was the "old testament" assembly under? A dispensation of gracelessness? law? covenant? onerous stipulations not possible to follow? sadness and depression? Ps. 119 didn't seem to be too unhappy with the Law. Ps. 84 didn't find Tabernacle/Temple worship something to distain. The Old Testament and the Covenants are grace upon grace. Where is there anything but Grace? From Gen 12, and the promises (quoted by Paul as the Good News) to Mt. Sinai. It's all grace! From Joshua's conquests to the exile, it's all grace. The faithfulness of God to His promises is grace. The coming of Messiah who is the Word made flesh, is all grace. Without grace, we are nothing and have nothing. We are a doomed people more pitied than any. With Grace we shine like stars. It's not a dispensation accounted to those after the cross; it's the whole blooding story. You said, "the Church is not mentioned in the Old Testament." Gen 28:3, promises that “you will be the church” (qahal; kaw-hawl strongs 6951). Deut 5:22; God's speaks to the [church] from the mountain. The "church" was formed as a distinct body at Mt. Sinai. You can check the Greek word for church (ekklesia; ek-klay-see'-ah Strongs 1577) and see that it is the word used to translate Assembly/congregation in the Hebrew Scriptures. Pentecost was the festival remembering what God did at Mt. Sinai, when his voice was seen as sparks or lightening. They saw God's voice go out from the Mount. At Pentecost in Acts 2, we see the "wind" of God (a.k.a. Holy Spirit) and the tongues of fire rest upon the Apostles while they are at the Temple for the festival of Pentecost. The same thing happens to them that happened at Mt. Sinai. Also, 3000 are baptized into their number (3000 were killed after the Golden Calf). The "church" has a start, or maybe a new start. What has changed is that the Holy Spirit came in power and the Law was written upon the heart (Jer. 31; New Covenant). And soon the door swings open for the Gentiles, who before had no hope and were far off...now are now brought near. They are "grafted" into the olive branch that is Israel, or that is the Assembly of God formed at Mt. Sinai. One church, One people. (An aside: tradition, not Scripture itself, has said that God’s voice went out at Mt. Sinai in the languages of all 70 nations….the 70 nations seen in Gen 11; they all heard God in their own tongue all over the Earth give the Decalogue. This may be only a tradition, but it’s interesting that the same things does actually happen and get recorded as happening on the same day that the first event was recorded; on Pentecost.) There is no "dispensation." There is only an opening of the eye and heart that embraces the Gentile into the community and witnesses the mystery of God, that being "How can a Holy God dwell with an unholy man?" The incarnation is the mystery (Among other mysteries hidden in the heart of God.) You said, “That the Gentiles were to be "saved" was no Mystery. (Rom 9:24-30). The "Mystery" was God's purpose to unite Jews and Gentiles into The Church, towards the formation of His Body, The Church. (1 Cor. 12:12-13).” And here you are spot on correct! Thanks for the chance to rant a bit. MJH |
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62 | Rahab righteous or not? | Josh 2:4 | MJH | 214679 | ||
John, I think you hit on good points in response. I'm particularly impressed with the statement that Rahab was protecting God's messengers and thereby partnering with God rather than rebelling against him. I haven't thought of it in those words before. Here is how I've thought of this type of issue. The Law is about life; it describes life in the kingdom of Life and not death. Therefore when a person is faced with an issue such as Rahab, to preserve life (and as you said, God's will) and to lie, then preserving life always wins out. "I have come that you might have life...." So my question of whether is was a "sin" only matters in the minutia of technical law, because we all agree that we and the Word of God testify that Rahab was correct. So to answer my own question, it matters not . . . it does matter to defend life and to protect and participate in the Will of God in this life. MJH |
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63 | Rahab righteous or not? | Josh 2:4 | MJH | 214671 | ||
Here is a question. Is it always a sin to lie? Would it be a sin to lie to the Nazi's who sought to find Jews hiding in your home? MJH |
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64 | Moabites forbidden and Ruth allowed?? | Deut 23:3 | MJH | 214591 | ||
Steve, That is a very good point. Thanks for adding that to this thread. MJH |
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65 | Moabites forbidden and Ruth allowed?? | Deut 23:3 | MJH | 214582 | ||
Awesome.... It just so happened that I read this story to my children today. I found it to be one of the most spectacular stories in the Bible. A movie aught to be made! MJH |
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66 | Buddha statue in a house of a christian. | Bible general Archive 4 | MJH | 214575 | ||
Exo 20:4-6. Do not make an image out of anything from heaven, earth/land, or sea. It would be wrong for a Christian to display an engraved image such as a buddah regardless of their reasons. My most direct answer. MJH |
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67 | compilation of scripture and compilatio | 2 Tim 3:16 | MJH | 214308 | ||
keliy, First, good job on your thorough answer. I agree with lionheart that you did well. It's a big topic to cover in a short post. One thing that caught my eye was your comment on "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you..." (Deu 4:2). It would be more accurate to view this passage along with Deut 12:32, in light of the covenant stipulations given in Deuteronomy. The covenant was seen as a unified whole with multiple parts. It was not possible to extract or add to the parts without destroying (ie violating) the whole. The command given here is to not add any new commandment or take any away. It is not speaking about adding to the canon of scripture. Deut 4:2 does not prohibit adding books to the list of inspired writings, it only prohibits the adding or subtracting of any commandments; ie. changing of the terms. MJH |
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68 | why was Jabez named sorrow maker | 1 Chr 2:55 | MJH | 214277 | ||
John, I'm not that well acquainted with this Text, but the word translated "pain" in Chap 4:9 is used three other times in Ps 139:24; Is 14:3; and Is 48:5 and it is translated (in the KJV) as Wicked (or grievous), Sorrow, and Idol respectively. Seems to be a bit of an enigma. MJH |
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69 | why was Jabez named sorrow maker | 1 Chr 2:55 | MJH | 214272 | ||
The name Jabez means, "he will cause pain." or "maker of sorrow." The answer to the original question I do not know. MJH |
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70 | Rapture | Rev 20:1 | MJH | 214124 | ||
John, First off, while I generally shy away from end time’s debates, I appreciated your admitting you are not all together sure. Me neither. I enjoyed a speaker at a pastors' convention awhile back who told this story, "God is up in Heaven sitting with Jesus to his right. Before God are laid out all of the end times charts. He puts His arm on His Son's shoulder and says, 'You know Son, I'm going to send you back down there just as soon as I can figure these things out." Needless to say, it broke the tension of a bunch of staunch Christians holding different views on many things. That all being said, I recently wondered if those "taken away" were the Righteous or the Wicked. In Matt. 24:40-41 the two men and women, one is taken and the other left, the Text does not say which was which. If fact, in all cases where "one is taken" the Text doesn't specify which. We assume the good person is taken because of what we bring to that particular Text and not because of what the Text actually says. When I studied the first century understanding, I found that the Greek's believed the dead “good” were taken away to some heaven, but the Jewish faith believed the dead wicked were taken away to judgment. The Jews always saw Earth—and Jerusalem in particular—as the final place for the righteous. So, if Jesus is speaking to a Jewish world about someone being "taken away" and then He does not say who gets taken away; it would make sense that his audience assumed what Jews in that day assumed. Jesus doesn't overtly challenge that thinking. (Nor does he confirm it....it's not mentioned who is taken.) When I looked at this idea closer, I found that all throughout the Old Testament, those who are "taken away" are taken away to judgment, or because of judgment. At this time (first century), Israel’s identity is that She was taken away to Babylon as judgment for her sins. (Lamentations, Jeremiah) The only Text that does not fit this mold, (that the ones taken away are those taken away for final judgment) is 1 Thes. 4:17. Yet even here, the dead rise and the living meet the Lord in the air....but the Text even here does not mention if they float away to some heavenly place, or return triumphant with the Lord. They are not “taken away” per se, but rather gathered to the Lord. Any thoughts? This is one of my, “kept it under my hat” thoughts. MJH |
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71 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | MJH | 214096 | ||
Bill, I'm not sure if you are here still or not, but there are good reasons why I'd rather have a private discussion should you desire. I'm not even sure if this thread is active anymore, but in either case, I still offer an email discussion. If that is at all of interest, then let me know and one of us can share an email address. I think for the forum, this discussion is pretty well worn out. As I said earlier, trying to debate so many people at one time gets too confusing. MJH |
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72 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | MJH | 214095 | ||
John, Fair question. I do have an email that I occasionally use for such occasions. It's an email that is seperate from my personal use email of course. If Bill was intersted he could simple ask. I doubt anything would come of it. As far as knowing him. No. And no, I've only been MJH here too. MJH |
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73 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | MJH | 214071 | ||
This is rather unfortunate. I am sorry that you should leave so soon, before you even get a chance to get to know anyone. Should it be your desire, you can email me for a more civil discussion. After all, trying to debate 10 different people at one time is like trying to hit a target with a shot gun. It's a bit messy. MJH |
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74 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | MJH | 214056 | ||
John, To be honest with you, if I were to throw my two cents in at this point it would only serve to make matters worse. We are discussing with a new member who is very strong in some views that are outside the main. This, of course, I kind of like personally. It gives a chance to force someone to defend such understandings. If I jump in right now, you and I both know that it would make this discussion get a bit out of hand. I don't hold to the "main" on how to interpret the Law and what is applicable to Christians today and bringing this up right now may not be helpful. You'll notice I have stepped back from most of those discussions for awhile, because based on my past posts, one might think that the Law is the only thing I can discuss. Plus, I'm here to learn as much as share and beating one drum isn’t being helpful I don't think. MJH PS- Between you and me and those looking in. Bill0624 needs to be pressed on why he thinks the Messiah would or could disagree with or overturn Moses and still be the Messiah. After all, the most often repeated phrase in the entire Bible is, “and God told Moses to say….” |
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75 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | MJH | 214048 | ||
Okay.... Some of your posts would qualify as outside the rules. But I'd still love to have you stick around. It might be nice to discuss somethings. Like, how could Jesus disagree with Moses......That's quite an impossibility unless he isn't the Messiah. Look forward to where this could go? MJH |
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76 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | MJH | 214047 | ||
bill, I've read a good number of your posts, though not all, and I have to say that you are, I believe, following the rules of the forum. While I'm not going to agree with all of your conclusions, you've made your argument from scripture and tried to do that well. Your approach is one of sincerity, I believe, and you've attempted to be gracious most the time. This is probably why you have, unlike others, not been deleted. I have found that the forum is open to different views and even sometimes those that are a bit far outside of the main stream as long as the person is gracious and attempts as best as they can to back up what they believe with good hermeneutics. I hope that you stick around awhile. I've been here for a number of years now, on and off, and I can assure you that I have not always held to the normative theology of our day, yet I have almost always felt welcome and even appreciated. I'm guessing you would be too. God bless in your studies. MJH |
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77 | What does judgement look like | 2 Cor 5:10 | MJH | 214032 | ||
Do I dare to interject? Hmmmm it is tempting. MJH |
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78 | Seating at the Last Supper | Matt 26:23 | MJH | 213973 | ||
You're going to have to supply evidence for the Jewish customs that you state. I've heard of none of them. Knowing that this supper was a Passover would enlighten the events, but not the seating so much. Any sources for these? MJH |
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79 | Actual bodies in heaven? | 1 John 3:2 | MJH | 213972 | ||
John, Well now this sounds much better. I didn't think we were as far apart on this as it seemed. Thanks for clarifying. I will stipulate that you may be correct. I do agree with you on the "many rooms" analogy although I'd put the "rooms" on Earth, if not in Jerusalem itself. Any differences we have would be rather minor in the end. The main reason I'm not going to pursue those right now is because I am time pressed. I just got a new book I need to devour. God bless and again, thanks for clarifying. MJH ps. I have a real love for astronomy, and I'd LOVE to visit many of God's marvelous creations out there some day...I'm hoping eternal life will give me that opportunity:-) |
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80 | Reason 4 "6" Cities of Refuge? | Num 35:6 | MJH | 213964 | ||
You are on the right track. It can be a lot of fun discovering the life and times of Jesus and the Apostles. I agree with you that young men pursued marriage and a young age, but probably not as young as the women. I disagree with the History and Discovery Channel depicting the 30 something men marrying 13 year olds. There is more evidence that in Jesus world men married closer to 20 and girls a bit younger. Girls also had a say to some extent. It would be an exception for a girl to marry a man she did not agree with. While that may not be true for all places and times in the Jewish world, it most likely was in the first century Galilee. Anyway, enjoy learning and reading. It's a long journey with many "flowers" to smell along the way. MJH |
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