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5141 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6424 | ||
Please explain to me how honest Godly men of both persuasions can for over 500 years debate these points with no conclusion? How can there be both ultra and moderate and liberal on both sides? For each point, each text one sides presents there is and equal but opposing scripture. It is not as cut and dried as you make it. I think the problem is no one listens to what the others say. I do not for one moment believe I or any other man short of Jesus Christ is the author of my salvation. I do not believe any man can come to Salvation without the leading or unction of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe man can be saved by works or anything other than grace. However I do not believe in election as defined by Calvin. |
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5142 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6422 | ||
By the way Jehovah's witnesses and Mormons are not jsut in error they are in rebellion. Both have rewritten the scriptures, both have made Jesus something less than God. | ||||||
5143 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6420 | ||
That is a very interesting question. One that probably should have been asked 500 years ago. Basically your right Peter set the course if you will, then in about 300 AD Christianity was declared the state religion of Rome and all kinds of weird and unholy doctrine started to come in. Around this time in 350 AD the Bishop of Rome declared himself the head of the church and things started going down hill even faster. Finally in the 1500's the corruption of the church was so rampant that finally a man stood up and said enough. Soon men from every thought and persuasion where shouting to be heard. What you said about power was also true, the ones in power decided what was correct. Not through reason but rather by force. Many men on all sides burned at the stake. Today we are much more civilized we don’t burn people we call them heretics, we ridicule them, debase and mock them, and we even call them lost. How sad it all is when we look at what Jesus wanted. He told us to go make disciples, to be his witness and to share the Good News with the rest of the world. Instead we argue if should baptize infants or not, whether we should sprinkle, dip or drown. We fight about salvation through election or free will, then we argue whether we can loss our salvation or not. And everyone claims to be hearing from God on whatever point it is they stand upon. Maybe we should take a lesson from Acts 15 and let the Apostles decide. By that I mean maybe we should be re-reading first century church history and doing and teaching exactly what they did. If the question we ask isn’t answered by scripture or early church history then maybe we are asking the wrong question. Think about it, before the reformation fractured the church Christianity controlled most of the civilized world. I’m not saying the church at that time was correct, I’m saying they had unity of purpose which the church does not have today. |
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5144 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6415 | ||
Brother please re-read what you wrote here. I don't think it is what you meant to say. In the first sentence you said you can be deceived and in last sentence of the first paragraph you said you can't be deceived because God won't allow it. Your whole response leaves me a little confused and I can not find an answer to the question I asked inHzsvc. | ||||||
5145 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6398 | ||
inHzsvc, I'm not trying to answer for JVH0212, but I think you have missed a point. Sin is open rebellion to God. In this debate there is as much scriptural support for the point as there is for the counter point. When one or both points are one day shown by God to be wrong, I believe the guilt will be in, human misunderstanding or presumption rather than sin. | ||||||
5146 | Please explain your position | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6394 | ||
Orthodoxy, my soteriology does not carry universal atonement but rather universally applied atonement. In that I mean the atonement that was provided for on the cross can be accepted or rejected by all. I do not imply all are saved, just that all are given a choice. By the way your answer I believe should be an example to everyone in forum. |
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5147 | Why require faith to perform miracles? | Matt 13:58 | EdB | 6338 | ||
I'm glad your not offended as I made no attempt to offend. Hank's question was why did Jesus require faith of those whom He performed miracles. I was merely pointing out that Jesus did miracles to people who were dead and therefore could not exhibit faith in Him. Then Hank asked the relationship between faith to miracles. To this I responded that in some cases faith was required in others no. The bible displays it happening both ways. Do I see a relationship between faith and miracles? In some cases most certainly, in others no. That said let me also say without faith it is impossible to please God, and that my friend is my goal. It is not to see miracles, it is not to perform miracles, it is to please God. Let God be God. I don't put Him in a box or prescribe any formulas. I stand in awe of His tender mercies. That’s Ok, I'm not offended by what you wrote. God bless you also! Ed |
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5148 | Why require faith to perform miracles? | Matt 13:58 | EdB | 6321 | ||
Jesus being God was sovereign and did many miracles without faith of others being involved. There are many examples of this in the gospels one being Luke 7:11-16. This passage tells of the raising of the widow’s son, no mention is made of faith by anyone and the son was dead. Notice in Jesus’s instructions to the 12 before he sent them out to heal and cast out demons Matt 10:1-14 he gave no requirement of faith. I'm not trying be a wise guy, but I have seen God perform and do many miracles where there was no faith. Just as I have seen nothing apparent happen where there was much faith. Let’s not put God in a box He can and will do as He pleases whether we have faith or not. Although we do know faith is required to please Him Hebrews 11:6. |
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5149 | A question of capitalization: small "s"? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 6097 | ||
Matthew 22:43 is ify but I think I will go with a capitalized S, showing the Holy Spirit lead David. Acts 19:21 should be a small s showing Paul decided in his spirit or heart to go. Acts 21:4 should be a capital S showing once again the Holy Spirit’s leading. 1 Peter 4:6 again a little ify but I think I will stick with a small s showing man’s spirit. As far as the NASB and Daniel 3:25 I think they have it wrong, both NKJV and KJV use the term Son of God with capitalization. No way I can see it being the “son of the gods” I think the answer is ascertained by Nebuchadnezzar’s reaction. When the three Hebrew children came out of the furnace Nebuchadnezzar never asked who the other person was, he had already proclaimed him the Son of God which could have been Jesus capitalized or or an angel small capitals. In either case Nebuchadnezzar knew whoever it was he came from the God of the three Hebrew children. |
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5150 | Please help. Post your comments. | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 6023 | ||
Hank I'm sorry I vented. I apologize to you and the forum. It's just this person that put those red flags on Orthodoxy's comments to my questions has me seeing red. As far as the forum giving advice I'm very worried about the quality given. I think this forum is too far removed from any situation to give good, helpful and Godly advice. I also get a definite feeling that many “Christians” look at prayer as, “well there is nothing else to do we might as well pray”. Jesus told us faith expressed in prayer moves mountains. I believe that! I believe because prayer is so powerful it is the weapon of choice of a Christian when they find themselves in need. Second guessing is very common in our society and many people do it without even realizing they are doing it. People when they respond to forum need to ask themselves, why are they responding? Do they have something to add to the discussion? Do they need a point clarified? Do they have another point that is as of yet un-thought of? Or are they trying to one up or one down a previous answer. If the later is their reason they aren’t interested in a Bible study they are looking for a debate. Or they are looking to make themselves appear to have all the answers. In other words they want to appear superior and haveeveryone else should hold them in high esteem and yield to their intellect. |
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5151 | Isn't God sovereign? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 5786 | ||
Bartay, forgive me I used what I thought was a common Christian term "Free will". From our response I thought wrong, it must not be that common to everyone. By free will I mean we have the choice to obey or disobey. God did not create us as puppets where he pulled the string and we jumped. God set down laws and statues and precepts and told us to follow them. However as you know from the time in the garden to now many choose not to. That is "free well" | ||||||
5152 | What about Ex. 4:11 does that apply? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 5702 | ||
Exactly! Let God reign! I think of the double standard we apply to God. Ravi Zachariah gives an illustration. A plane crashes to earth and 300 people are killed and humanity cries how could God allow such a thing to happen. Yet every year we kill 40,000 babies and okay with "its a woman's right to make a choice." We DEMAND that we have a choice but we resent the fact the God has a choice. Unlike our choices which many times bring further disasters, God's always work for the best. |
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5153 | Define the word "cult". | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 2132 | ||
I never realized until I read Prayon's response, which I believe is a very concise synopsis of both HolyGman and my own earlier responses, how easy it would be to take our definitions and turn valid ministeries into cults. Let me demonstrate Point 1 Revelation supercedes the bible - could not both the calvinist and arminianism view of election and the arguments that go with each be considered to be using information that supercedes the Bible, particularily by those that hold opposing view points? Point 2 redefining Christian Termininology - practically any discussion on the trinity, baptism, Holy Spirit, or Gifts of the Holy Spirit reveals people talking about the same thing but using different terms or talking about the different things using the same terms. Point 3 Exclusitivity - Almost any demonination fits this to some degree. Wouldn't the need to be a tither for church membership fit this? Aren't the need for total immersion baptism, being spirit filled or not having been divorced also points of exclusivity commonly found in the church? Point 4 Authoritive leader - tense, strong willed, charasmatic - Isn't that the description of notable men like John MacArthur, John Maxwell, Billy Graham? Point 5 Strict, unreasonable rules - See point 3 and tie expulsion from the church to the breakage of any of those points and viewed through liberal eyes would seem harsh or excessive. I'm not saying any of these points are wrong. I think there needs to be different factors to determine whether a cult is a cult. It is now far to easy to use our own definitions against us. For forces that oppose religion to make us look like the bad guys. We see this fight right now in some countries where the "orthodox" religion is trying to have various demoninations and ministries outlawed. |
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5154 | STILL entertaining? | Revelation | EdB | 1500 | ||
I'm not sure I have anything against Tim LaHaye, but I do question his series of books Left Behind. They paint a picture of excitment and adventure during a time when I think the world will be turned unside down. People will be living in despair and fear, begging to die. It will be a dog eat dog kind of existance. I also question how many non Jews will be saved. I think the real thrust of the 144,000 will to evangelize the Jews. If people will not accept Jesus now while it is easy to do, I question how many will when it will cost them their lives. | ||||||
5155 | May I Ask Again... Bible Software? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 1494 | ||
Dear EveryHome, I have used just about all of the Bible software products on the market and currently own Nelson's Bible Library and NAS Bible Library both of which are in LOGOS format. I also own Wordsearch by Iexalt in STEP format. My favorite is Wordsearch. To me it is the easiest to use, easiest to transfer scriptures into word processors, and has an added feature of audio pronunciation of Strong's concordance Hebrew and Greek words. Going along with this feature is one called 'Easy For You to Say' which pronounces all the names of biblical people, places and objects. Makes life easier when you run into one of the unfamilar names and you are not sure of the pronounciation. I will admit the Logos format has far more titles. The question that must be asked are you building a collection or are you looking for useful tools? | ||||||
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