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5121 | Did Gamaliel give sound advice? | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7672 | ||
Prayon I liked what you said but let me emphasis something. While what Gamliel said did in fact lead to the freeing of the Apostles, which was good. It can not be construed in any way to being God's standard to judge a true ministry. Look at the prophets most of the time nobody wanted to even be near them. They preached from bottom of wells, in prison or in jeopardy of death. Look at the Apostles all with the possible exception of John died horrible deaths. You said if we discount cults then what Gamliel said would be true. That is applying man’s reasoning and logic. Let me assure every one of God’s ordained ministries has succeeded, He has never failed. It might have been long lived or short lived but it accomplished exactly what God intended it to accomplish. Each and every believer that lit Nero’s garden with the flames of their bodies had a successful ministry. The instant James’ head fell from his shoulders God’s glory was attested to. To many people look for the world’s definition of success in ministry (how big is it, how old is it, how many missionaries does it support, what programs are in place, how beautiful the building, how rich, and etc) instead of God’s standard does it bring glory and honor to Jesus? Is it accomplishing what God wants it to accomplish? The real question should be is it reproducing itself (Jesus’ likeness) in others or is growing fat in itself? |
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5122 | Did Gamaliel give sound advice? | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7421 | ||
Nolan you asked a great question. Many people believe that since it is in the Bible it is inspired. God permitted uninspired sayings, quotes, and words of man to be included to provide completeness to the pictures He was painting. Gamaliel’s advice while advantageous to the disciples and seemingly making sense is not inspired nor is it correct. Many false religions, leaders and cults have endured while many Godly ventures have failed. Today many people apply this test to ministry, if they see a fast growing ministry they naturally say it is must be of God. Yet many fast growing ministries are racked with false teaching and just plain junk. In the same sense many faithful and totally correct ministries seem to stumble and grope through never making a big impact. I think this is where discernment comes into the picture. Too few Christians use discernment in their evaluation of men and a ministry. I saw a nationally known Evangelist, call a woman onto the platform one evening in a congregation of 700-1000. He was in a playful mood and he proceeded to tease with this saint. He told her little sins she had committed before she was saved, little things like her and “husband to be” sneaking a little wine and telling her mother they hadn’t. He did it in a very playful and non condemning way. Everyone was laughing, the poor dear saint was blushing, it was funny. The people in the congregation were in awe of this mighty man of God that can read this saints “mail”. The applause was thunderous! Then the Holy Spirit said to me if God forgets our sins and moves them as far as the east is from the west how can this man possibly know about them? Then He (the Holy Spirit) answered the question, there was only one way "familiar spirits". This man was moving in familiar spirits either intently or unintently but doing so none the less. Nobody was using any discernment to pick up on it. This man did many similar things through the course of his 3 week revival services. Each night it was a packed house and each night he did something equally revealing. Yet each night 700-1000 people walked out of the church raving about how Godly this man was. Yet down the street a young unknown evangelist was preaching his heart out glorifying Jesus and magnifying God and he had 25 – 50. No Gamliel’s advice sounded good and thankful made sense to the listeners securing the release of the disciples, but it did not establish a standard by which to judge ministries by. |
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5123 | Goodbye, Friends | Eph 4:29 | EdB | 7132 | ||
Dear Hank I apologize for not writing this sooner but some things needed my attention earlier today. It is with a very heavy heart I read of your decision to pullout of this forum. I too agree with Charis that we all desire your rapid return. I also totally agree with the rest of what Charis said. I was convicted reading it and have repented. Let me add as I have said before to the forum I fail to understand why everything has to turn into a “I’m right your wrong debate.” Can’t we learn to discuss issues. There has been some very interesting "thoughts" brought up in this forum, that I for one would have enjoyed exploring. I have a desire to learn the reasoning that formulated those ideas. I want to know and understand why people believe things different than I do. Yet in a heartbreaking number of cases the discussion immediately digresses into a “your wrong” type of confrontation. Why does somebody have to be right or wrong if they see something in the Scripture in a way different from another? I think it is fair to ask for a clarification of a point or how they handle scripture that to our reading may appear to be in conflict with their position. The problems comes when we tell others they are wrong, or infer they are lost and condemned to hell. I think we all have an opportunity to learn from this forum if nothing else than how to have a peaceful idea interchange with fellow believers. I pray Hank will reconsider his position and return to the forum. If nothing else to keep me straight and JVH0212 from answering all the questions :-). Just kidding!!!! |
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5124 | But didn't He? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7075 | ||
Nolan I appreciate you brother. I have yielded on this subject. I know that your position is the classical interpretation of this scripture. It has been mine for as long as I can remember. I was just fascinated that Paul at the leading of the Holy Spirit chose terms that convey marriage (husband and wife) when he could have just as easily used terms that were totally neutral and devoid of any overtone of marriage. Paul could have said a man or woman of sexual purity. Or a man or woman that abstains from sexual immorality. I was questioning if there might be some reason for the particular language he used. Apparently everyone feels there isn’t. And some have even cast me in the light of being an idiot for even daring to think such nonsense. I have said my last on this subject, however to me it is still an interesting subject. |
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5125 | Elder must be 'the husband of one wife'? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7067 | ||
Whoa! I apologize. It was a feeble and from you reaction poor attempt at humor. I just thought it was funny you said what you did in the response to my message. I sat here and chuckled over how you had constructed that response I thought you had done it intentionally to get a laugh. I'm sorry I took something you evidently meant to be taken literally and seriously and tried to turn it into fun. Did you notice my smiley face winking ;-) verse a straight smiley face :-). I think we all need to take a deep breath here this forum is getting way too serious and everyone including myself seems to be on the defensive. PS not everyone hates you or Hank Hanegraaff, I like you both. Your Brother in Christ. |
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5126 | Hank where did I say all of this? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7059 | ||
Like I said Hank your an interesting guy. There is more to you than most comprehend. I will believe what you said was meant as an apology, I will accept it as such. And in turn I offer my apology should you feel I have unjustly maligned you in any way. I think this part of this discussion should end. |
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5127 | Elder must be 'the husband of one wife'? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7055 | ||
I know you said this didn't apply to me, but considering it's placement one could almost consider that a cheap shot ;-) | ||||||
5128 | Elder must be 'the husband of one wife'? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7052 | ||
Okay I yield (whew! finally the man shuts up). I saw something in Steve's argument that I thought was interesting. It seems it interests me only and to pursue this any further is non productive. Again I did not get involved in this discussion to be a thorn in anyone's side nor to threaten the health of the forum in any way. |
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5129 | Elder must be 'the husband of one wife'? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7022 | ||
Hank again I ask that you take no offense, and I’m not impugning someone I don’t even know. The fact remains after years of marriage counseling I have never seen a problem marriage that both parties didn't have major issues that needed to be dealt with. Were those issues severe enough to take a man out of ministry, I don’t know but God does. I too have known men and women that have successfully carried on in the ministry after the disaster of divorce. But I’m forced to ask a question was it God’s perfect will or something else? Just because they succeed, and just because they did good things does not mean God preferred or even wanted it that way. Surveys today say an alarming percentage of clergy and missionaries are involved in internet pornography, are they still ministering? Yes. Are they successful? Some are some aren’t. I heard a testimony from a man that had a very fast growing church in the south and it was happening while he was up into ears in porn, seeing hookers, and thinking about suicide. He had the gun to his head before he broke. Praise God! God is still on the throne. The man came to senses, resigned his church, sought help and is well on the road to recovery. Please brother this was not attack against your friend or his ministry. I’m just raising a question of the logic that says I know someone that has done it, so therefore it must be okay. |
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5130 | I'm not sure what your saying? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7020 | ||
No JVH0212 I take it to mean a husband with one wife nothing more nothing less. If a divorced man, single man, or a widower can met that qualification then I say let him get to it. | ||||||
5131 | Is Steve really all wrong? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 7005 | ||
Thanks JVH0212 you have a good answer from a good teacher. However even MacArthur sort of falls back into what I have been saying and what I’m trying to get everyone to see. In the last paragraph when he says "A 'one-woman man' is one totally devoted to his wife, maintaining singular devotion, affection and sexual purity in both thought and deed. To violate this is to forfeit blamelessness and no longer be 'above reproach' (Titus 1:6,7) Compare Prov 6:32,33" (p. 1864, MacArthur Study Bible, Word, 1997).” Notice his use of the word “WIFE”. Wife still implies marriage. While MacArthur is right the Greek words “aner” and “gune” used here do mean a one woman man, but show me any translation that doesn’t understand that to mean a husband and wife. Can we at least agree if the guy is married he should have only one wife :-) |
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5132 | Can you be a husband without marriage? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 6993 | ||
Hank thanks for showing compassion on me by your kind words. But I have a question. How do you get around the words husband and wife? I might be reading something into this but in my humble mind husband and wife suggest marriage, shouldn't it? | ||||||
5133 | Is Steve really all wrong? | 1 Tim 3:2 | EdB | 6989 | ||
I totally and honestly apologize if I threatened the health of this forum in any way. That was never my intention. I responded to the thread that I responded in not to the whole discussion for a reason. In I Tim. 3:2 it says an elder should be a husband of one wife. Steve said this meant he should be married. Everyone else said no that is not what it means it means an elder should have sexual purity. I happened to see Steve’s point. All he was saying is if God meant it to say sexual purity why did he say husband (denotes marriage) of one wife (again denotes marriage). Is that so wrong as to threaten the health of this forum? |
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5134 | Study Bible Forum -- or Circus? | Gen 1:17 | EdB | 6887 | ||
Dear Charis, I probably should answer you directly but I think others may want to understand what I mean when I say "from the pit of hell." By that I mean I have seen some responses that are so close to being right, so close to the truth that on first reading you find yourself shaking your head in agreement. However on closer inspection you see slight, subtle errors that open a door for misinformation. False doctrine is not 100 percent wrong but usually only 1 percent wrong. If it was 100 percent wrong even the newest of believers would be able to detect the error and fail to be deceived, however when it is 1 percent or less many take it in. This deception or falsehood germinates and soon distorts the truth already received. Why do I say from the pit of hell because I think no man is subtle enough to do this on his own, it takes the 'father of deception' to accomplish this. Does that mean there are responders that are cohorts of Satan? No! But I think there are people that have let things like pride, anger, selfishness, past hurts, past deceptions, and/or a lack of love, creep into their responses and I think this has opened the door for the wiry finger of deception slink in. No, Charis none of yours, that I know of :), fall into this group and I pray none of mine has either, but I think we all need to be in prayer before we ever attempt to respond. Anytime we are offering spiritual advice, effecting a way a person believes or teaching scripture it is serious business, something not to be taken lightly. |
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5135 | More thoughts on the prayer of Jabez? | 1 Chr 4:9 | EdB | 6566 | ||
I read the book the Prayer of Jabez this morning. All in all, the book is pretty good. The thrust of the message is asking God to use you. The author explains how he graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary and wasn't sure how God wanted to use to use him. He prayed the Prayer of Jabez and God has opened doors beyond his wildest dreams. He started and is the president of Walk Through the Bible (which in itself is excellent). While the message of the book is solid it can easily be abused, as I said before the whole thing can quickly become a Talisman. |
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5136 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6457 | ||
Okay, what does the word mean and no fair looking at JVH0212's answer. And if you do who is 'us'? Us the readers or us the saved reading this passage? | ||||||
5137 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6452 | ||
First Us-ward is not a word. If it was I can find no definition so I have no idea in the world what it means. If your going to tell me it means 'saved people', then I must say prove it. Most reliable translations has 'you' in it's place. Since this is the Lockman forum let's for the sake of unity use the NASB which reads "The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." I read "you" as being the reader of this scripture. And being a reader of the scripture does not make one saved. If it was just talking about the saved and God saved everyone why would He have to have patience? All God would have to do is make everyone saved. No waiting required. An interesting side bar to this discussion is the New Living Translation of this verse, “The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise to return, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent.” Notice the word “everyone”. |
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5138 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6436 | ||
Thanks I'm always open to further my study | ||||||
5139 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6432 | ||
Brother You and I are not as far apart as you might think. However I don't think either of us will resolve the issue. Can I say I love you in Christ, and I believe you and I will have will have many days together in heaven laughing as we think about this debate. | ||||||
5140 | What took you so long? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6430 | ||
Yes but without that connection your comments might get lost and I would have hated to see that happen | ||||||
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