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5061 | Extreme Views Are Nothing New | Titus 3:10 | EdB | 10048 | ||
Hank Your right extreme views are not new. However we have to make certain what we call extreme. Is it something that invades our comfort zone, makes us rethink old principal and dogmas or is it attacking Christian Orthodoxy? Many writers to this forum has been frown upon not because they were trifling with a Christian orthodoxy but rather because they were treading into someone’s comfort zone. I can be found guilty of extreme views as I have expressed many to encourage rethinking of positions and dogmas. Yet when examined you will see I never violated Christian Orthodoxy. Some times extreme views are good they make us rethink our position. That can be a rewarding process, was we might then fortify, change, or in some way enhance that position. Be blessed my brother |
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5062 | Christ entered the Holy or most Holy?... | Heb 9:12 | EdB | 9968 | ||
Hank Got a NWT right here on my desk, not sure why you picked Heb. 9:12? NWT he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls, but with his own blood once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance [for us] KJV Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. NASB and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. I'm not sure what the doctrine the JW teach but it had something to do with 1800's and Jesus completing the work on the cross. They even teach Jesus returned spiritually around then and sealed the 144,000 that will go into celestial heaven and eternity with Him. I'll do some research and fill in the blanks Ed |
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5063 | Christ entered the Holy or most Holy?... | Heb 9:12 | EdB | 9919 | ||
Ah! Charles Russell the founder of the Jehovah Witnesses was involved with a fringe SDA movement for a period of time. I'll guess this is where he picked it up. The JW's have some nutty teaching along this line. | ||||||
5064 | Christ entered the Holy or most Holy?... | Heb 9:12 | EdB | 9914 | ||
Jerry Sounds like Jehovah Witnesses, am I right? Ed |
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5065 | what does this verse mean? | Luke 19:40 | EdB | 9912 | ||
Yvette Debbie and Nolan gave good answers. Your thoughts really line up with what Nolan said and I read it that way myself. I'm not sure there is much more that can be said. I hope answers your question. |
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5066 | HOW CAN ONE LIVE WITH A QUARRELSOME WIFE | Proverbs | EdB | 9910 | ||
Hank, Amen brother, once again good preaching!!!! My lovely bride of 36 years has been a blessing in my life. I never once had to go to the roof. And of course like your wife she was blessed with a prince of a guy like me. Pat! pat! (that is the sound of me patting myself on the back) :-) Be Blessed and Be a Blessing Ed |
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5067 | Christ entered the Holy or most Holy?... | Heb 9:12 | EdB | 9907 | ||
Jerry What does it matter how long it took? Why are you asking? Obivously it had to take place between the time Jesus died on the cross and arose again. I would guess it was instantous right after Jesus' death. EdB |
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5068 | what does Hebrews 6v4-6 mean? | Heb 6:4 | EdB | 9815 | ||
JVH0212 Your absolutely right when I said these men disagreed I meant on secondary issues not essential truths. These three men stand in total agreement of the essential truths of Christianity and I should have made that clear. Denominations and debates within Christianity is not as many people suppose a disagreement over the essential truths of Christianity, but rather over secondary issues that have no real effect on the Jesus Christ, His work on the cross, salvation, or any other part that defines orthodox Christianity. Let that be perfectly clear. Also let it be known JVH0212 and I do publicly agree sometime! :-) Love you my Brother Be blessed and be a Blessing Ed |
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5069 | what does Hebrews 6v4-6 mean? | Heb 6:4 | EdB | 9814 | ||
JVH0212 To the extent that these references are supplying a fact your right, facts are facts. To the extent these sources supplying a meaning to a reference then they are opinions. It is the writers interpretation of what the passage means. To the extent that these passages supply an understanding of the original language they may or may not be right. I personally view Spiro Zodhiates is my deciding authority. :-) John I guess I never realized that people are refusing to accept fact as fact as you say. If they are then they stand in the light of ignorance not understanding. You and Hank are right they need to shut their mouth and learn. |
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5070 | Holy Spirit without evidence of tongues? | Acts | EdB | 9798 | ||
JVH0212 I agree with your last paragraph,"I still believe tongues to be a valid, current gift of the Spirit. I do not believe that tongues have ceased, as some do. Yet I abhor some of the Pentecostal and charismatic excesses that are contrary to Scripture, the misuse of the gifts, and just plain bad doctrine about the gift of tongues and the baptism by the Holy Spirit." You are one hundred percent on target here. Be Blessed and be a Blessing Ed |
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5071 | what does Hebrews 6v4-6 mean? | Heb 6:4 | EdB | 9797 | ||
JVH0212 You have brought up one of the biggest mysteries I see. I think we could all agree R.C. Sproul, John MacArthur and Jack Hayford are about equally intelligent men, have about the same theological training, have spent about that same amount of time studying scripture. I think it safe to say all three are saved, all three are spirit filled, all three know the voice of God. Yet there are significant passages in the Bible the each of these three would differ on, security of the believer, pre/post/mid trib, pre/post/a millennialism, Pretrerist, Historicist, Futurist, Pentecostalism, Arminianism, Calvinism and etc. Does the fact that any of these not agree with the other, stupider than the other? I think not! Does it say that one is closer to God than the other maybe but I doubt it. What could cause this problem? I’m not sure. I think the problems stems from the fact that each is trying to support a different doctrine. In any case this is why we have so many denominations. |
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5072 | what does Hebrews 6v4-6 mean? | Heb 6:4 | EdB | 9785 | ||
JVH0212 I don't think anyone said, throw out your study Bibles, and reference material or check your brain. Reference material are good checks and balances to make sure we are not going off into unorthodoxy. However reference is just another man’s opinion, it may be well learned in many cases and not so well learned in others, but still just an opinion. I just read a book on Grace and the writer says that MacArthur and Ryrie are both wrong, that their understanding of saved by grace fall shorts of God true grace. My eyes almost fell out when I read this, as these two men probably have the best view of grace I know. I included this to say for any passage that is the least bit controversial there is probably an equal number of books written to cover both sides of the controversy. Man always has opinion, just like now as I tell you mine. I think anytime you use a outside reference and people don’t accept it as the final answer, its not because your using an outside reference. It is because they are aware of still other references that refute what yours said. I have a library full books I would guess about two thirds teach one way on a subject and half the other third teach another and the other half either never addresses the subject or teaches still another point of view. However these Books offer opinion that help me formulate my opinion. But most importantly they help me insure I’m not going off to lala land when my spirit gets impressed with a new thought. Outside references are essential to good Bible study they are just not to be viewed as the fianl authority. |
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5073 | Tree of Life can we say? | Gen 3:22 | EdB | 9656 | ||
JVH0212 The point your making is my point, look what the bible records, “if you eat of the tree you will die.” That had to apply to spiritual death since that is what occurred. Before they eat they walked with God after they eat they hide from God. Their spiritual death was instantaneous, while physical death didn’t come instantaneously but occurred after some time. Physical death came about because they were driven from God’s presence and from the tree of life. The point I’m making is the “death” spoken in the warning was not physical death but spiritual death. The curse of sin does not carry physical death but rather spiritual death. Physical death occurs as a result of sin because we have no access to the tree of life which is in the presence of God from Whom we were separated from by sin. Results are the same, the focus in just different. ‘To me’ it makes what Christ did on the cross more understandable and much more wonderful. It makes Isaiah 53 explode with wonders, awe and truths hidden from my reasoning for years. Thank you Lord Jesus! Be Blessed and be a Blessing Ed |
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5074 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9621 | ||
Amen Brother! Preach it!!!! I'll just stand here and fan you to keep you from over heating! :-) Seriously Hank you have my heart now. The Bible is more than an ancient work that has hung around a long time. It is LIFE and LIFE more ABUNDANTLY if we will only learn to LIVE BY IT. The world must stop discounting it as old fashion, non relevant, and out of touch. There is nothing more relevant, more in fashion, more in touch with today than the living Word of God! Most of the time we won’t read it and when we do we have a tendency to say, “oh that was back then this is now.” Instead we should be saying, “it worked back then just as God said it would and oh yes God also promised it would work now!” Praise God! Be Blessed and be a Blessing Ed |
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5075 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9588 | ||
Hank I'm in agreement with you and Tim on this. The point I'm trying to make is God is a precise God. He told Moses to strike the rock once Moses hit it twice. God said use my fire, Korath’s group used their own. Little things almost insignificant when viewed in the grand scope of creation and salvation. However every important to God. In many cases the church today will take something that appears insignificant but nonetheless the word of God and say, "well that was for back then, we don't do that anymore so it doesn't pertain to us." I submit to you the same question I did to Tim. Could our minimization of scriptures, in aspects to dress, holding things holy, who is qualified to do what jobs, social customs, religious customs and etc. be the reason the church today isn’t having the effect on the world that the first, second, and third century church did? Something changed and I submit to you it wasn’t God. Isaiah 55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts. Be blessed and be a blessing |
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5076 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9585 | ||
Lionstrong I'm sorry I had about 3 windows open at the same time and confused and combined yours and Tim's remarks. To you I say yes yes a thousand times yes! Your last paragraph make the point I have been trying to make, thank you!!! |
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5077 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9584 | ||
Tim Forgive me I had about three windows open at the same time and inadvertly answered yours and Lionstrongs responses together. Tim, I meant to say I am also a Plenenary, Verbal, Confluent, Inerrant person. It is the only way I want to be. I'm copying from my erronous response appended to Lionstrong into this for continuity. I do not believe there is one word in the Bible that God didn't intend to be there. I then say if God intended them to be there he had to have a reason for them. If we dismiss them as issues from another place and times we stand in danger of dismissing what God intended to say. Let me use your example I quote, "For instance, 1 Cor. talks about praying with head coverings. Paul gives a command there, but most of us realize that this was a cultural custom from a different time, so we don't pray with our heads covered. However, we do recognize that there is a universal principle being taught as well." Let me ask a question, do you view the church today as being in the place Jesus wants it to be? Do you see it victorious, leading the way, effecting governments and nations for Christ or do you see it rather as almost fighting for survival defending itself on all sides from attack. Let me ask another question, could the problem be we have dismissed things like this and somehow placed ourselves outside God's perfect will? Have we compromised this out and that out until we have literally compromised ourselves out of God's power and will? |
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5078 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9583 | ||
Yes yes a thousand times yes!!!!! This is exactly what I'm talking about. By the way I like your Plenenary, Verbal, Confluent, Inerrant definitions. I too are one. I do not believe there is one word in the Bible that God didn't intend to be there. I then say if God intended them to be there he had to have a reason for them. If we dismiss them as issues from another place and times we stand in danger of dismissing what God intended to say. Let me use your example I quote, "For instance, 1 Cor. talks about praying with head coverings. Paul gives a command there, but most of us realize that this was a cultural custom from a different time, so we don't pray with our heads covered. However, we do recognize that there is a universal principle being taught as well." Let me ask a question, do you view the church today as being in the place Jesus wants it to be? Do you see it victorious, leading the way, effecting governments and nations for Christ or do you see it rather as almost fighting for survival defending itself on all sides from attack. Let me ask another question, could the problem be we have dismissed things like this and somehow placed ourselves outside God's perfect will? Have we compromised this out and that out until we have literally compromised ourselves out of God's power and will? |
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5079 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9548 | ||
JVH0212 You caught me this is the same question. ;-) I was hoping for fresh dialogue, not saying there was anything wrong with yours. But we kept dead ending as you tried to narrow me down to one particular doctrine in question. My concern is not with anyone particular doctrine but rather with the general concept of discounting something in the Bible as merely man dealing with a situation. What I’m trying to do is get people to think about these men that come on TV, Radio or even from the pulpit who are trying to be popular or PC and say this doctrine doesn’t pertain to the church today. Their usual argument is this was the writer correcting the a local situation and was never intended for today’s church. In days past it concerned, women in the ministry, children and general conduct. Today the same approach is being used to support homosexuality, abortion, stem cell research and the list grows. I say baloney! We either take the Bible as God’s inspired Word and stand on it’s infallibility or we say it is nothing more than the ramblings of men of old who left their situations, society, ego’s, prejudices, and their inherent beliefs shape what they wrote. And I for one will never do that!!!!! In my examples your absolutely right there would be many many things the Pagan would wonder about. But I believe he would come to an understanding of the basic principals of Christian living provided the Holy Spirit was involved. Of course he would not understand the awesomeness of the Balaam’s talking donkey if he had never seen or heard of a donkey before. Or he would wonder about earthquakes if he never felt one. Or find it strange to talk about a sword or a spear if he never had one. However I believe God has supplied in the Bible everything we need to determine if a doctrine, precept, command, or statue applies to us today or not. I think we run into to hazardous territory when we try to explain away any verse of doctrine, precept, command, or statue as nothing more than the writer bringing correction to a local social issue that doesn’t apply today unless we have Biblical proof of that fact. As to the example of the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses, first I think we can all agree the Holy Spirit wasn’t involved. Secondly they weren’t looking for the truth they were trying to apply man’s understanding and logic to scripture. |
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5080 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9540 | ||
Tim You never did answer this question can I hand a pagan a Bible written in his language and giving him time to study and apply it expect him to come away with correct doctrine? Or do you believe important concepts or important information has been left out of the Bible without which the Pagan would reach the wrong conclusions? Way too many people today are taking this passage or that passage and are saying, “we don’t have to live by this, the writer of this passage was just trying to correct a local situation in a local church, this was never intended to pertain to the whole church. Let’s take a crazy example in 1 Cor. 5:1 Paul talks about a man with his fathers wife. Paul calls it sexual immorality (which it is!). Let’s say for the sake of this discussion we have no other teaching on this. What is to prevent someone from saying, “1Cor. 5:1 was written to correct a problem in the Corinthian church and does not pertain to us today. It was written because Paul knew they had some bad genes and he didn’t want genetic mutations to take place that is why he told them it was sexual immorality. That having sex between as son and mother is really the safest sex your keeping it in the family?” I realize this is absurd example but understand if we open the door to do it in one place what is to prevent someone else from coming through that same door and doing in another? Who is to be the final authority? By doing this with any passage like 1Tim 2:11 we are saying God isn’t. !!!!Disclaimer before anybody jumps on me for teaching heresy. Sex between a son and his father’s wife is in fact SIN! Here and many other places in the Bible, it is forbidden!!!! |
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