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4921 | Is harsh language appropriate? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 6726 | ||
Greetings Joe! I would respectfully disagree with you on this point. I understand what you are saying, but I think that even in the extreme case of heresy, more would be accomplished with a 'soft word' than with a 'harsh word.' I think the best pattern for presenting our arguments is found in Col. 4:2-6: "2 Devote yourselves to prayer, being watchful and thankful. 3 And pray for us, too, that God may open a door for our message, so that we may proclaim the mystery of Christ, for which I am in chains. 4 Pray that I may proclaim it clearly, as I should. 5 Be wise in the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity. 6 Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone." This doesn't mean that we cannot boldy confront error or heresy! We can and should, but always with the love and grace of Christ in our hearts and on our lips! God Bless, Tim Moran |
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4922 | Did Christ die for the world? | 1 John 2:2 | Morant61 | 6690 | ||
Greetings Retxar! You make some excellent points. There are many passages where words like (all, the world, every, whosoever, ect...) are used. I think there are a few where the context may indicate a narrower focus, but I think the majority mean exactly what they say. One of my favorites verse combo's is the one you refered to in John 6:44. John 6:44 says, "‘‘No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day." Now compare that verse to John 12:32, which says, "But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.” The word 'draw' in both verses is exactly the same Greek word. I don't see anyway to understand these two verse other than a real offer of salvation to every individual. One good thing though, both Calvanists and Arminians get to the same point through different paths. In the end, God graciously saves. God Bless, Tim Moran |
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4923 | Election to Salvation or of Purpose? | 1 John 2:2 | Morant61 | 6604 | ||
Greetings JVHO212! Thank you for the kind words! I always enjoy reading your posts. I noticed that you quoted from John MacArthur. You might be surprised to find out that he is one of my favorite preachers (and me an Arminian!!!). A few years back, I had the chance to attend a pastor's conference and breakfast with Dr. MacArthur in Lima, OH. I'm breaking my own rule here, by getting away from 1 John 2:2 on this thread, but here goes. Allow me to define a few terms from my perspective in order to answer your question. I have been heavily influenced by the writings of Robert Shank ('Life in the Son' and 'Elect in the Son'.) Hence, my understanding of election is that it is primarily corporate and only secondarily inidvidual. The cross is the one electing act of God in history. In the cross, all men find atonement (objectively). However, they only experience atonement (subjectively) in Christ. When someone responds to the gift of salvation, it is at that point that they become part of the Elect body. Predestination refers to the circumstances of election (adoption in Eph.1 and the image of Christ in Rom. 8) and not to the eternal destiny of individuals. So my short answer would be: The atonement is unconditional, but election is conditioned upon acceptance of the atonement. The best Scripture for this view would be 2 Cor. 5:18 "18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" Note that v. 19 says that Christ was reconciling he world to Himself (unlimited atonement), but v. 20 calls for men to be reconciled to God (conditional election). The result is that 'in Him,' we become the righteousness of Christ. I look forward to your response. I love debate, not for arguments sake, but for the opportunity to sharpen my faith. It is through the questions and challenges of others that I am forced to examine my beliefs (I thought I was wrong once, but I was wrong.) When you reach the point that you can explain your view in a logical and understandable manner to someone who disagrees with you, then you have begun to understand the subject. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran p.s. - Just call me Tim! |
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4924 | Did Christ die for the world? | 1 John 2:2 | Morant61 | 6602 | ||
Greetings Ray! I whole heartedly agree with you that we are all sinners. The comparison that I see in 1 John 2:2 is a comparison that explains the extent of the atonement. Writing to Christians, John says that Christ is the atoning sacrifice for their sins (NIV). We all would agree with that statement. However, he goes beyond that and says that Christ is more, He is the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. It was late while I was reading your response, so I'm not sure that I was clear on what you were saying. Would you please summarize your point for me? Thanks, and God Bless, Tim Moran |
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4925 | What is the "eye of the needle"? | Mark 10:25 | Morant61 | 6579 | ||
The quote your refer to is found in the "Acts of Peter and Andrew." Here is the text: 13 There was a rich man named Onesiphorus who said: If I believe, shall I be able to do wonders? Andrew said: Yes, if you forsake your wife and all your possessions. He was angry and put his garment about Andrew's neck and began to beat him, saying: You are a wizard, why should I do so? 14 Peter saw it and told him to leave off. He said: I see you are wiser than he. What do you say? Peter said: I tell you this: it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Onesiphorus was yet more angry and took his garment off Andrew's neck and cast it on Peter's and haled him along, saying: You are worse than the other. If you show me this sign, I and the whole city will believe but if not you shall be punished. 15 Peter was troubled and stood and prayed: Lord, help us at this hour, for thou hast entrapped us by thy words. 16 The Saviour appeared in the form of a boy of twelve years, wearing a linen garment 'smooth within and without', and said; Fear not: let the needle and the camel be brought. There was a huckster in the town who had been converted by Philip; and he heard of it, and looked for a needle with a large eye, but Peter said: Nothing is impossible with God rather bring a needle with a small eye. 17 When it was brought, Peter saw a camel coming and stuck the needle in the ground and cried: In the name of Jesus Christ crucified under Pontius Pilate I command thee, camel, to go through the eye of the needle. The eye opened like a gate and the camel passed through; and yet again, at Peter's bidding. 18 Onesiphorus said: You are a great sorcerer: but I shall not believe unless I may send for a needle and a camel. And he said secretly to a servant: Bring a camel and a needle, and find a defiled woman and some swine's flesh and bring them too. And Peter heard it in the spirit and said: O slow to believe, bring your camel and woman and needle and flesh. 19 When they were brought Peter stuck the needle in the ground, with the flesh, the woman was on the camel. He commanded it as before, and the camel went through, and back again. 20 Onesiphorus cried out, convinced and said: Listen. I have lands and vinevards and 27 litrae of gold and 50 of silver, and many slaves: I will give my goods to the poor and free my slaves if I may do a wonders like you. Peter said: If you believe, you shall. 21 Yet he was afraid he might not be able, because he was not baptized, but a voice came: Let him do what he will. So Onesiphorus stood before the needle and camel and commanded it to go through and it went as far as the neck and stopped. And he asked why. 'Because you are not yet baptized.' He was content, and the apostles went to his house, and 1,000 souls were baptized that night. 22 Next day the woman that was hung in the air said: Alas that I am not worthy to believe like the rest! I will give all my goods to the poor and my house for a monastery of virgins. Peter heard it and went out to her and at his word she was let down unhurt, and gave him for the poor 4 litrae of gold and much raiment and her house for a monastery of virgins. 23 And the apostles consecrated a church and ordained clergy and committed the people to God. Side Note: You can tell from the quality of story why the Apocraphal writings were never accepted as cannonical. Blessings, Tim Moran |
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4926 | Is harsh language appropriate? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 6570 | ||
Greetings Joe! I agree that we face a theological crisis in America because of an unwillingness to deal with theological issues. I also agree that we should "speak the truth in love." However, I think many people forget the "in love" part of that quote. Debate is healthy and promotes growth. However, it can be accomplished without being harsh. I try to always be a gentleman in life and in the forum. And, I think that most of the posters in the forum demonstrate the same kind of spirit. In Christ, Tim Moran |
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4927 | Trinity vs. Modalism | John 6:56 | Morant61 | 5068 | ||
Hi Sharp! Thanks for your response and thanks for a very polite debate. I agree with you that Modalism and Trinitarinism can never be reconciled. However, I am concerned that Modalists cannot seem to accept the definition of trinity actually used by those who believe the doctrine. Saying that we believe in three gods, would be like me saying you don't believe that Jesus is God. This ruins the possibility of a productive debate, simply because we are not even debating the same thing. I have enjoyed our debate, but I think we are at an impasse. So, I think now would be a good time to conclude this thread. If you come up with something in the future, I would be more than happy to discuss it with you. And, I'm sure that we will be interacting on other threads. God Bless, Tim Moran |
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4928 | Modes or Persons? | John 6:56 | Morant61 | 5031 | ||
Hi Jim: I checked 1 Tim. 3:16. The KJV translates the word 'phaneroo' as manifested. The NIV translates the word as appeared. It basically just means revealed in the flesh. The words 'mode' and 'persons' are theologicals terms used to describe Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Modalists explain the unity of the Godhead by saying that there is only one God, who manifests Himself in three modes. Trinitarians explain the unity of the Godhead by saying that there is only one God, who eternally exists in three distinct 'Persons' within the Godhead. 'Persons' is not a great term, but no one has been able to come up with anything better. Have a great day! Tim Moran |
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4929 | Have I misunderstood your question? | John 6:56 | Morant61 | 4904 | ||
Hi Jim! John 14:23 is an excellent example of what I was saying. John 14:23 - Jesus replied, ‘‘If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Clearly, Jesus is refering to two members of the Godhead in this verse. In fact, He refers to them both in the plural - 'we will come' and 'we will make our home'. This verse cannot be explained as two modes or offices of God. Thanks for your input! Tim Moran |
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4930 | once saved always saved? | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 4741 | ||
Whoops! Sorry about that! Can we get a spell checker on this forum? Humbly, Tim Moran |
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4931 | once saved always saved? | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 4661 | ||
Greetings, I happen to come from an Armenian perspective. However, there are several points that I think both Calvanists and Armenians can agree on: 1) Our Salvation is a free Gift of God - Rom. 6:23. 2) We can neither earn nor un-earn our Salvation - Eph. 2:8-9. 3) We are secure in God's hands - Rom. 8:35-39. We may agree or disagree of other points, but these are the most important. Peace, Tim Moran |
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4932 | Does this explain Trinity? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 4540 | ||
Greetings, In your response, you started off with some good questions. You said that we all agree that Jesus is the Word (Jn. 1:14). You then stated that according to Genesis God created the world. You then asked, Jesus was with God in the beginning of what? If you stay with the context of John 1, it tells us what beginning John was talking about. John 1:3 says, "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." (NIV) Therefore, logically, Jesus is God. Since, God created everything according to Genesis and Jesus created everything according to John 1:3. In fact, this is exactly the point of John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." So John 1 makes 3 points about Jesus. 1. He is eternal (from the beginning). 2. He is God, and 3. He created everything. In fact, the other passage you quoted from (Col. 1:15-20) makes almost exactly the same claims for Christ. Col. 1:16 says that He created all things. Col. 1:17 says that He holds all things together. Col. 1:15 and 1:19 says that He is the image of the invisible God, with the fulness of God dwelling within Him (not an imperfect copy). Thus, according to Col. 1:15 and 1:18, He is the firstborn or supreme over everything. Thus, John 1 and Col. 1 both say that Jesus is fully God in every sense of the word. Thanks, Tim Moran |
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4933 | Apostasy vs. heresy. | 2 Tim 4:3 | Morant61 | 4140 | ||
When I was in Graduate School, our Dean made an excellent observation about heresy. He said: "Heresy is the revenge of neglected truth. (Dr. Fetters - 11/2/88)" His point was simply that heresy springs up during times when the church has neglected the great truths of the Bible. Tim Moran |
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4934 | no first day in the greek | Luke 24:1 | Morant61 | 4030 | ||
Good answer! The Greek of Luke 24:1 literally reads: "But on the one of the sabbath...." Sabbath could refer to either the Sabbath (7th Day) or the Week itself. The phrase "one of the sabbath" is therefore a reference to the 1st day of the week. Tim Moran |
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