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4181 | What is "First Fruits Rapture? | Rev 14:4 | kalos | 161579 | ||
Who are the 144,000? 'In prophetic circles, there are numerous attempts at identifying the 144,000 Jews mentioned in Revelation 7 and 14. A common identification is that they are Jewish evangelists that traverse the world during the 70th week of Daniel and are instrumental in bringing untold numbers of people into the kingdom of God. That understanding is, however, never taught in the Scripture! 'When a study is made of the 144,000, we learn that there are only three verses in the entire Bible that mention these people (Rev. 7:4; 14:1,3) . From a study of these three verses we learn the following: '1. They are 12,000 Jews from 12 tribes of Israel that are sealed for protection... '2. In Revelation 14 they are with "the Lamb...standing on Mount Zion" and bearing the name of His Father "written on their foreheads". In 14:3 they sing a new song "before the throne". '3. In 14:3-4 we also learn that these are "purchased from the earth" as "first fruits to God and to the Lamb" (from among the Jews), are spiritually pure ("not ... defiled with women"), follow the Lamb "wherever He goes", are absolutely honest and "are blameless".' (Who are the 144,000? by Rev. Charles Cooper) To read more go to: (www.solagroup.org/articles/ faqs/faq_0023.html) |
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4182 | Purpose for the 144,000 clearly stated | Rev 14:4 | kalos | 177363 | ||
Purpose for the 144,000 clearly stated Revelation 14:4 ‘(1) These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. (2) There are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. (3) These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. (4) And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless. (…) ‘3. “These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb” is the third defining strait given in this passage. God’s purpose for the 144,000 is clearly stated. They were purchased or saved "from among men as first fruits." The term first fruits occurs nine times in the New Testament (Rom 8:23; 11:16; 16:5; 1 Cor 15:20, 23; 16:15; 2 Thess 2:13; James 1:18; Rev 14:4). In Romans 16:5, 1 Corinthians 16:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, and James 1:18 first fruits clearly refers to the first initial group of converts to Christianity with more to come afterwards. 'This is the most logical and reasonable sense here. Since there are only 12,000 Jews from each tribe of Israel and they are specially identified as "first fruits," naturally the salvation of more Jews will follow their conversion. We are not told when the salvation of the 144,000 occurred. However, we know it occurs between their sealing and their standing on Mount Zion with the Lamb. The salvation of the 144,000 guarantees the salvation of the nation of Israel, which must shortly follow this scene given the destruction of Jerusalem detailed in the seventh bowl (Rev 16:19).' Source: www.revelationcommentary.org/14_chapter.html (Note: This is not an accidental duplicate of a previous post. I have posted this Note here where it will appear under Revelation 14:4.) |
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4183 | Ignoring a Decision to Capitalize | Rev 14:16 | kalos | 149452 | ||
Ignoring a Decision to Capitalize Hebrew has no such thing as upper and lower case, and the oldest Greek manuscripts were all upper case. Here is an example of the difficulties involved in capitalizing words in a translation that are NOT capitalized in the Hebrew and Greek texts: 'Revelation 14:16 '(1) And He who sat on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth, and (2) the earth was reaped. '1. And He who sat on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth may indicate the nature of this harvest. The reader should ignore the interpretive decision made by the translators of the NASB. The fact that they capitalized He indicates their opinion that the one sitting on the cloud is a Divine Being. It is a heavenly being, but there is nothing in the text that demands that the cloud-rider is Jesus Christ.' ____________________ http://www.revelationcommentary.org/14_chapter.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * www.seekfind.org Christian Search Engine The mission of SeekFind.org is to provide God-honoring, Biblically-based, and theologically-sound Christian search engine results in a highly accurate and well-organized format. |
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4184 | Ignoring a Decision to Capitalize | Rev 14:16 | kalos | 149483 | ||
Exactly! Christ has no need for an angel to command him to do anything. | ||||||
4185 | Ignoring a Decision to Capitalize | Rev 14:16 | kalos | 149484 | ||
Tim: I do appreciate hearing the other side of the matter. Thanks for your input. I'm sure I don't know for certain whether the angel is Christ. For further reasons why my quoted source interprets the passage as he does go to: www.revelationcommentary.org/14_chapter.html and read the commentary on verses 14-20. I also appreciate the fact that when you offer an alternative viewpoint, it is never "just" your opinion. You always give the reasons for your interpretation and you do it with wisdom and intelligence. Tim, consider yourself one of my trusted resources. Sincerely. Grace to you, Kalos * * * * * * * * * * * * * www.seekfind.org Christian Search Engine The mission of SeekFind.org is to provide God-honoring, Biblically-based, and theologically-sound Christian search engine results in a highly accurate and well-organized format. |
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4186 | Ignoring a Decision to Capitalize | Rev 14:16 | kalos | 149492 | ||
"There is nothing in the text that... ...demands that the cloud-rider is Jesus Christ." 'Revelation 14:14 '(1) Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and (2) sitting on the cloud was one like a son of man, (3) having a golden crown on His head and (4) a sharp sickle in His hand.' '2. Sitting on the cloud was one like a son of man identifies the rider of heaven’s unique transportation. One like a son of man is clearly reminiscent of Daniel 7:13. However, this is not Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus would hardly need an angelic exhortation to begin the earthly harvest (Rev 14:15). The one thing that can be dogmatically asserted is the fact that this is a unique heavenly being.' 'Revelation 14:15 '(1) And another angel came out of the temple, (2) crying out with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, (3) "Put in your sickle and reap, for the hour to reap has come, (4) because the harvest of the earth is ripe." '1. And another angel came out of the temple supports the conclusion that the rider on the white cloud is an angelic being. Another angel suggests a previous angel. The immediate context suggests that the rider is the focus. This angel’s job is to deliver a message. '2. Crying out with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud expresses the recipient of the angel’s message. Emerging from the temple, this angel undoubtedly is under the authority of God. The fact that an angel commands the cloud-rider to begin argues against the identity of the rider as the Lord Jesus. That the aspect of sitting on the cloud is emphasized suggests that the identity of the cloud-rider is not paramount. The Lord Jesus stated in Matthew 13:39 that "the reapers are angels" at the end of the age. This argues strongly that the identity of the rider is an angelic being.' 'Revelation 14:16 '(1) And He who sat on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth, and (2) the earth was reaped. '1. And He who sat on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth may indicate the nature of this harvest. The reader should ignore the interpretive decision made by the translators of the NASB. The fact that they capitalized He indicates their opinion that the one sitting on the cloud is a Divine Being. It is a heavenly being, but there is nothing in the text that demands that the cloud-rider is Jesus Christ.' 'Revelation 14:17 '(1) And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, and he also had a sharp sickle. '1. And another angel came out of the temple indicates a second angelic being with a sharp sickle. That this angel came out of the temple indicates that the cloud-rider mentioned in Revelation 14:14 also came out of the temple. This argues against the cloud-rider’s identity as that of Jesus. This angelic being also has a "sharp sickle," in good condition for a harvest.' ____________________ www.revelationcommentary.org/14_chapter.html |
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4187 | Ignoring a Decision to Capitalize | Rev 14:16 | kalos | 149496 | ||
Ray: You write to me: 'You have written that "the oldest Greek manuscripts were all upper case."' [Actually, I, Kalos, did not write it -- I quoted it.] You continue: 'I don't know if that is true or not...'. [Ray, although I am not infallible (never claimed to be), I am not in the habit of posting things that are not true.] You then write: 'but I find it interesting and confusing that the writer finds FAULT with a capitalized "He" when it has been stated that they are all capitalized in the oldest Greek manuscripts.' Since the words in the oldest Greek manuscripts were written in all caps (upper case), then there is nothing to differentiate between caps AND lower case. The Greek manuscripts do not contain caps AND lower case. Therefore, there is nothing in the Greek that is equivalent to capital letters as we today use capital letters at the beginning of certain words. If a person is confused about this, then perhaps they should second guess their own decision to go around second guessing the decisions of real Greek scholars and Bible translators. Grace to you, Kalos |
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4188 | Ignoring a Decision to Capitalize | Rev 14:16 | kalos | 149514 | ||
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 1 Cor. 13:11 (ESV) Ray: From what you have written over the past four years, I can only conclude that you have been saying that the Scriptures in the original languages -- the very WORDS of which are inspired -- do not give the proper respect due the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Can we improve upon the Scriptures as they were originally written? No, we cannot. The idea that somehow the written Word of God was in need of improvement and incomplete until centuries later when an English translation came along, complete with capitalization of pronouns pertaining to God, is absurd. It's ludicrous. The real Greek scholars and Bible translators of the WEB Bible, NRSV, NIV, and the ASV of 1901 have chosen NOT TO CAPITALIZE PROUNOUNS PERTAINING TO GOD. 'The WEB [Bible] doesn't capitalize pronouns pertaining to God. This is similar to the NRSV and NIV, and the same as the original ASV of 1901. Note that this is an English style decision, because Hebrew has no such thing as upper and lower case, and the oldest Greek manuscripts were all upper case... 'It is also true that choosing to capitalize pronouns relating to God causes some difficulties in translating the coronation psalms, where the psalm was initially written for the coronation of an earthly king, but which also can equally well be sung or recited to the praise of the King of Kings. 'Capitalizing pronouns relating to God also makes for some strange reading where people were addressing Jesus with anything but respect. In any case, in the presence of good arguments both ways, we have decided to leave these as they were in the ASV 1901 (which also gives us fewer opportunities to make mistakes).' ____________________ http://ebible.org/bible/web/webfaq.htm. From the mind, Kalos * * * * * * * * * * * * * www.seekfind.org Christian Search Engine The mission of SeekFind.org is to provide God-honoring, Biblically-based, and theologically-sound Christian search engine results in a highly accurate and well-organized format. |
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4189 | who is the great whore in rev chap 17. | Rev 17:1 | kalos | 190456 | ||
The Great Harlot Source: revelationcommentary.org/17_chapter.html 'What entity would be considered the mother of all harlots in a biblical sense? 'Isaiah 1:21 calls Jerusalem a harlot. Isaiah 23:13-18 depicts Tyre as a harlot. Nahum 3:4 declares Nineveh a harlot. The nation Israel is repeatedly accused by the prophets of being a harlot (Jer 3:6-10; Ezek 16:15-22; Hos 4:12-13)...' To read more go to: www.revelationcommentary.org/17_chapter.html |
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4190 | All names still in the book of life? | Rev 17:8 | kalos | 5453 | ||
Sam: I am truly sorry I misunderstood the intent of your question. If I have offended you in any way, I offer my sincerest apologies. I will reply more fully to your Note later. It is filled with good, thought-provoking points. So I'd like to take my time and give it the attention it deserves. Thank you for consistently sound, reasonable postings. --JVH |
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4191 | All names still in the book of life? | Rev 17:8 | kalos | 5493 | ||
camainc: Thank you for your reply. I am writing this merely to clarify where I stand and present what I believe the Bible plainly teaches on the subject. (To whom it may concern: Before you read the rest of this Note, I would like to say: By this posting, I am NOT inviting debate. I merely state what I believe. Without posting 40 questions, you can read the details by clicking on Search and then typing in the word "election". ) The following is what I believe: "Election is the act of God whereby in eternity past He chose those who will be saved. Election is unconditional, because it does not depend on anything outside of God, such as good works or foreseen faith (Romans 9:16). This doctrine is repeatedly taught in the Bible, and is also demanded by our knowledge of God. "No sinner can ever make the first move in the salvation process. This is what Jesus meant in John 6:44, when He said, "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws him." "Ephesians 1:4-5,11 reads, "Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will . . . also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will. . . . "In summary, we can say that God has had a special love relationship with the elect from all eternity, and on the basis of that love relationship chosen them for salvation. The ultimate question of why God chose some for salvation and left others in their sinful state is one that we, with our finite knowledge, cannot answer. We do know that God's attributes always are in perfect harmony with each other, so that God's sovereignty will always operate in perfect harmony with His goodness, love, wisdom, and justice." For further study: John MacArthur, The Love of God (Dallas: Word, 1996). J. I. Packer, Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity, 1961). © 2000 Grace to You (article by John MacArthur at www.gty.org - listed in Issues and Answers archives) |
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4192 | Does this mean that it is wrong to ask? | Rev 17:16 | kalos | 59912 | ||
Hank: I agree with you 100 percent. Thanks for a sane, sensible, reasonable posting. Grace and peace be multiplied to you, kalos |
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4193 | Have you ever looked at Urantia Book? | Rev 19:4 | kalos | 761 | ||
Just give us the who, what, where, when. Who wrote the book? Who endorses it? What is the book about in general? Where did the book have its origin? When did the book come into being? Also, if there are organized followers of the book, you may want to tell us something about them. I hope my answer is of some help to you. Again, thanks for sharing with us. | ||||||
4194 | Who are the 24 elders in this verse? | Rev 19:4 | kalos | 814 | ||
Hi, Xapis. Yes, my answer is really from the Bible in the sense that I do not speculate on what the Bible does not say. It's enough of a challenge to understand what the Bible does say. (On the other hand, I do quote a note from a study Bible. So I guess you and I are both right.) You're also a blessing to me. Always look forward to reading your input. My sincere thanks to you! Yours is a good answer. | ||||||
4195 | Have you ever looked at Urantia Book? | Rev 19:4 | kalos | 815 | ||
Charis, I agree with you completely on this subject. To the curious I would point out: The canon of the Bible is complete. It has been completed since before the end of the first century A.D. BEWARE of any alleged new revelation -- that which is not found in the complete and unchanging Word of God. There is not nor will there ever be a 67th book of the Bible. Neither the Book of Mormon, the writings of Russel or Rutherford (Jehovah's Witnesses), Mary Baker Eddy, nor the Brownsville revival constitute the 67th book of the Bible. . . . I too have "been there, done that." And I aint NEVER goin back. |
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4196 | Who are the 24 elders in this verse? | Rev 19:4 | kalos | 952 | ||
Yes, I understand what you mean by ppl who don't understand the difference between Bible text and footnotes. To such people I say: Remember, no explanatory footnotes in any study Bible are inspired; only the text of the Bible itself is inspired of God. . . . I'll bet you also know many who don't understand the difference between opinions and facts. For example, salvation by grace through faith plus nothing is not my personal opinion. It is a fact well documented in the Bible in plain English (Eph 2:8-9; Rom 3:28, etc.). |
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4197 | Why must the devil be released? | Rev 20:3 | kalos | 79591 | ||
Why (for what purpose) must the devil be released? The Bible tells us why. Satan "will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth...to gather them for battle." Revelation 20:7-10 (NIV) "When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Why will the devil be released? To "go out to deceive the nations", according to God's plan. What will be the devil's ultimate fate? See verse 10. |
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4198 | Inhabitants of kingdom on earth | Rev 20:4 | kalos | 30105 | ||
The Inhabitants of the Millennial Kingdom Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and sitting on them were those to whom authority to act as judges and to pass sentence was entrusted. Also I saw the souls of those who had been slain with axes [beheaded] for their witnessing to Jesus and [for preaching and testifying] for the Word of God, and who had refused to pay homage to the beast or his statue and had not accepted his mark or permitted it to be stamped on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived again and ruled with Christ (the Messiah) a thousand years. [Dan. 7:9, 22, 27.] (Amplified Bible) 'We now come to a passage which deals with a portion of the inhabitants of this kingdom on earth. 'Looking at Scripture as a whole, the kingdom will be inhabited in the beginning by two categories of saints. First, there will be resurrected saints in glorified bodies like that of our Lord (Phil. 3:21). This will include Old Testament saints, church age saints (the bride of Christ), and Tribulation martyrs. Second, there will be those Tribulation saints who escaped death and were preserved through the Tribulation to go into the kingdom of our Lord (Matt. 24:13; 25:10, 30, 32-34; Rev. 14:1). These believers will have mortal bodies like ours today and during the course of the Millennium they will beget children. These children will also, regardless of the personal and glorious presence of Christ, need to receive Jesus Christ as their Savior by faith. This fact will provide the potential for a third category of people in the Millennium, unbelievers in mortal bodies, men and women susceptible to the deceptions of Satan. These will form the constituency for the last-time revolt under Satan’s final deception.' (www.bible.org/studies/nt/books/rev/jhk3/rev-30.htm ) |
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4199 | Inhabitants of kingdom on earth | Rev 20:4 | kalos | 30132 | ||
But he who endures to the end will be saved. Matthew 24:13 AMPLIFIED "The reference is not to the salvation of the soul of the believer who endures persecution, but to his deliverance by the Lord's return" (NSRB note at Matthew 24:13). In Matthew 24:4-31 the entire passage is Jesus' answer to the disciples' questions: "When shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the age?" (v.2). In subsequent verses Jesus is teaching about Daniel's seventieth week of years: the end time; the middle of Daniel's seventieth week: the abomination of desolation; the great tribulation (latter half of week); and the King's return to earth at the close of the tribulation. So in the context this interpretation of verse 13 is the more likely interpretation -- i.e., that the reference is to the believer's deliverance by the Lord's return. In addition, we are not saved by enduring to the end. We are saved by grace through faith because of what Christ did on the cross -- not by anything that we do. No one is saved by holding on or holding out. When we are saved, it is because God Himself holds onto us. EdB: Thanks for your interest in this topic. Do you know of a clear verse of Scripture that teaches that there won't be anyone that didn't take the mark of the beast coming out of the Tribulation? I am open to additional information, if you have some. I'll be looking forward to your reply. Grace to you, kalos |
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4200 | Inhabitants of kingdom on earth | Rev 20:4 | kalos | 30173 | ||
Nolan: You get an A Plus. Going to the actual website to check it out defintely helps explain the short quotation I provided. That's why I provided the link to the rest of the article. Good thinking (as usual) and good work. Grace to you, kalos |
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