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41 | One example of loosing salvation NT | Luke 8:13 | tj57h@cs.com | 88349 | ||
Why deliver one unto Satan to learn not to Blaspheme, if they are not still saved and being taugh a lesson? The same for the guy in Cor that had his fathers wife, they put him out to teach him, then they restored him 2 cor. Most people that believe a TRUE Son of God can loose his salvation, believe being put out or delivered to Satan is sent to hell for eternal damnation. No were does it clearly say: They have lost faith and are eternally dammed in Hell? What the word does say is incorruptable seed, eternal life, I will never leave you nor forsake you, nothing can seperate you from the love of god.........except........nada! The word don't get much clearer than that! I call them absolutes! Were are the abloluses (Scriptures that are crystal clear where a true son gets eternally dammed?) The Prodigal son is a prime example! Never onece did he not be a son, his intimate relationship was temporary suspended. God as we know is not into abortion or murder. Oh but he WILL correct the rebellious and disobedient son! Love Tim |
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42 | Can a believer lose his salvation? | Luke 8:13 | tj57h@cs.com | 88366 | ||
Sir, I admire you method of coming to your conclusions and agree with your reservations about the first man you met proclaiming his salvation. The light heartedness of those who proclaim OSAS is disturbing; if he is born again God is going to deal with him severely, because he is a son. More than likely he is not, he may believe in vain and not in his heart unto salvation.1Co 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. He centrally sounds lost and has some head knowledge about the Bible. Based on these scriptures I believe if you are truly born again NOT OF CORRUPTABLE SEED, I will never leave you nor forsake you, nothing will separate you from the love of God, ETERNAL LIFE, you are saved by faith not by works least any should boast it is the gift of God NOT OF YOURSELVES! Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. I call these absolute scriptures; crystal clear a true son of God cannot loose his salvation. I will no address your scriptures: Gal 1:6-8 Judisizers came in and preached you must work the law to be saved and this impeded the Galatians in there Spiritual walk, they were not lost. Heb 10:26-31 We all have "sined willfully" and if we were to take this scripture as it seems to say we all would have fallen. If a Jew was to reject the truth of Jesus’ sacrifice there is no other sacrifice to deal with sin's, this Jew would keep on sinning. Paul is talking to the Hebrew church (Jews) and is talking in reference to other sacrifices bulls and goats. If we sin willfully our Father who is a very loving and compassionate father WILL CORRECT US he does have that ability. 2 Pet. 2:20-22 If we are truly born again we are a son, our identity is in Christ, we are not a dog. Walking contrary to Gods will is a very rough road though and your life in many respects would be worse than it was before, but it does not say they are eternally dammed to hell. Matt 13:21 The context of this verse is: And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. FROM THE HATED ACTIONS THAT THESE MEN INFLICT UPON US WE SHALL BE SAVED FROM! Matt 13:21 This person has not received salvation by hearing the word, believing in his heart, and confessing with his moth the Lord Jesus Rom 10:9 and 10. He has believed in vain:1Co 15:2. Rom 11:20-23if one was to be broken off from God I believe since the life sap is severed he would be dead not eternally dammed to hell. 2 Pet 2:15 These people are false prophets lost Judasizers not believers. Jude 21 I have no Idea were you get the idea that someone has lost their salvation from this verse. Heb 3:6 Jesus saves us it is a free gift, I am not saving myself that would be salvation I am earning. It is by faith. 1Tim 4:1 I never said believers could not be deceived or get themselves into bondage, no were does it say these people are dammed to eternity in hell. If we have to earn it to keep it is not a free gift it is a debt and we can boast, after all we earned it. The price was paid; I believe it, that settles it. Love Tim |
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43 | One example of loosing salvation NT | Luke 8:13 | tj57h@cs.com | 88400 | ||
I asked for an example in new testement scripture you provided none. Salvation and rightiousness are by faith, and kept by faith thay are imputed and free gifts. Works does not get nor keep salvation. A lost person hears the word, believes in his hesrt and confesses the death burrial and resurection of Jesus Christ and becomes saved, born again. Hwe has passed from condemnation in his OLD condemned life in death to a new life in Christ, for Christ is our life, We get the fruit of faith and the gift of faith through him indewelling. Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith OF the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. If christ lives in the believer, how can he possibly lose faith? We live by the faith of Christ. He is the believer in us. WE DO NOT SAVE OURSELVES BY OUR WORKS, CHRIST SAVES US AND THE HOLY SPIRIT SEALS US UNTILL THAT DAY! IT IS A FREE GIFT! Only a person who has believed in vain can forsake Christ:1Co 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. If a person works for salvation he has fallen from grace:Click Verse for Commentary Notes Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. This does not mean you have become eternally condemned to hell it means his grace is shut off like a valve to be a living benefit to you, this explanes the lack of power and victory in the orginazed Church. I have an example of people who sined that were born again and died because of thier sin:Acts 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him. 7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. 8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. 9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. 10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. Does not say they went to HELL. And those people who do not confess thier sin before they take comunion they got sick and died, Does not say they went to hell. 1cor 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation (judgement or chastisement, not eternal damnation in hell) to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. love, Tim Let me know when you come up with that example of a person in the New Testment that was born again and got eternally damned to hell, would you please! |
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44 | Born again son asking for Holy Ghost. | Luke 11:13 | tj57h@cs.com | 88857 | ||
When I heard about it, about 12 years ago, I knew nothing about the Holy Spirit. I started studying the Holy Spirit in the bible and concluded it is something I should look into further, at the time we were attending a Baptist Church and in a bible study I bought up the subject. The leader said that his sister got the supposed baptism of the Holy Ghost and he said if you go looking for a spirit you will find one, implying an evil spirit. In my studies I found that Jesus said: Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: Clearly Jesus is saying a son (Born again child of God) is asking for the Holy Spirit and I would conclude that Being born again and Baptized in the Holy Spirit to be two different experiences, but I would assume it would be possible one could experience them at the same time, if one asked for it! how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? I was quickened by the Spirit to stand on this verse, even though great FEAR was put into my mind about getting possessed by an evil Spirit, The Father will give the Holy Ghost to anyone who asks or seeks, he will not give any thing else, I believed it and that settled it. I went to a full gospel Church and went up when they asked if anyone wanted to receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. I was filled completely with the fullness of the Spirit, it is hard to explain but I felt it emotionally and physically and had the overwhelming sense of the presence of the power of God in my body. Tears of joy filled my eyes, I had not a care in the world. At this point in time they taught that you would speak in other toungs, I did not. 3 weeks later I started speaking in tongs and overwhelming urge to speak welled up in my heart and I just spoke what came forth. I still speak in toungs; have operated in the gifts discernment and prophecy mainly. My definition of Baptized in the Holy Ghost: Complete surrender and fullness of the spirit. I don't want to make too big a deal of the feeling of being baptized in the Holy Ghost but it is difficult to ignore. I would equate it to totally cleaning out the spiritual plumbing in you heart and soul, fullness of the Spirit completely full and overflowing! My witness and boldness to speak gods words and my ability to hear from God by the Spirit have greatly been enhanced by this experience just as it did for the early Church: Acts 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) Prior to this Peter was totally humiliated and the Spirit enabled him to speak boldly to the masses. God as my witness I tell you the truth, as I know it. If you are a son seek you will find, the father will not give you any thing but his Holy Spirit! Love, Tim Hines |
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45 | What purpose does The Holy Spirit serve? | Luke 11:13 | tj57h@cs.com | 88908 | ||
Ann, I asked BradK this question because of his answer as to why the Son who is born again asked for the Holy Spirit. Did you read his response to my original post? I believe his position is that we already have the Holy Spirit when we become born again and I wanted to know why the son was asking for the Holy Spirit if he already had it. Love, Tim |
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46 | What purpose does The Holy Spirit serve? | Luke 11:13 | tj57h@cs.com | 88940 | ||
I asked BradK this question because of his answer as to why the Son who is born again asked for the Holy Spirit. Did you read his response to my original post? I believe his position is that we already have the Holy Spirit when we become born again and I wanted to know why the son was asking for the Holy Spirit if he already had it. Love, Tim |
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47 | 1 example in NT of Lost salvation! | Luke 23:26 | tj57h@cs.com | 88348 | ||
Fallen from grace I believe is similar to your examples, it means your walk is not manefesting the fruits and gifts of God, incapable(because of their current state of heart, works based religion can have similar effects.) of crusing in Christ as you should, It does not indicate eternal damnation! It is a free gift, not earned, salvation is something we are walking in and given by grace through faith, not manefested by works and therefore earned!Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT OF OURSELVES: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Love, Tim We get Faith through gifts and fruits because Christ who is our life is living in us saving us. We live by the faith of Christ Gal 2:20. |
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48 | Do you believe once save, always saved. | Luke 23:43 | tj57h@cs.com | 88325 | ||
No, because of the lightness in which those who use the phrase speak it. But, if you are born again not of corruptible seed, you are a son forever! Thus the terms eternal life, Sealed by the holy Spirit, I will never leave you or forsake you, it is a free gift given by faith not works and nothing can seperate us from the love of God. A Person can say they are saved, think they are saved and not be "Born again" Rom 10: 9 and 10 you BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND CONFESS WITH YOU MOUTH the death burrial and resurection of the Lord Jesus Christ you are saved (Born again) One can believe in vain and not be born again!Try finding one example of anyone that has lost his salvation in the New Testement. Love, Tim However the basic statement is TRUE If one is truly saved (Born again) He cannot become unborn again. God loves his son's and will deal with them that are disobedient. |
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49 | Look to Jesus not problems, be healed! | John 3:14 | tj57h@cs.com | 88559 | ||
Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: Numbers 21:4 And they journeyed from mount Hor by the way of the Red sea, to compass the land of Edom: and the soul of the people was much discouraged because of the way. 5 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. 6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. 8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. As we lift up Jesus Christ from the earth, people look at him and are healed. People of this world including believers are looking at their problems and thereby being devoured and killed by snakes (problems of this world), if they will look to Jesus high and lifted up they will be healed. Look to Jesus not the problems of this world. (Poisonous snakes) Love, Tim Hines |
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50 | Look to Jesus not problems, be healed! | John 3:14 | tj57h@cs.com | 88701 | ||
Amen brother keep on preaching! Love, Tim Hines |
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51 | Look to Jesus not problems, be healed! | John 3:14 | tj57h@cs.com | 88714 | ||
I agree, Paul was given a thorn in the flesh a messenger from Satan to buffet him, because of his great revelations. I believe this means God will allow something in your life to keep you humble and dependant on him if you are walking in a lot of revelation. Otherwise you will get the big fat head and will become much less powerful in God Paul said I GLORY in my infirmities! This takes a lot of Spiritual insight to comprehend this statement. 2Cor 12: 5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. 6 For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me. 7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. 8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong. I believe in Paul’s weakness the POWER of God manifested in a greater way because of this weakness and this is the reason he gloried in it. God goal is not to make us great people outside of him, he wants himself GORIFIED through us. He wants us dependant on him. Our position on healing is ALWAYS that God’s healing will manifest in us by his stripes, by faith regardless of anything else. Love, Tim Hines |
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52 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88554 | ||
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. As we lift up Jesus Christ on this earth all those around us and ourselves are drawn unto him. To be raised to life one must hear the Gospel, be born again, and that requires belief in the heart and confession with the mouth the Lord Jesus. Rom 10: 8- 10. THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM AND ENCORAGEMENT IN THE BIBLE IN MY OPINION; WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME LIFTING UP JESUS AND HIS NAME! Love, Tim Hines |
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53 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM! | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88555 | ||
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. As we lift up Jesus Christ on this earth all those around us and ourselves are drawn unto him. To be raised to life one must hear the Gospel, be born again, and that requires belief in the heart and confession with the mouth the Lord Jesus. Rom 10: 8- 10. THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM AND ENCORAGEMENT IN THE BIBLE IN MY OPINION; WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME LIFTING UP JESUS AND HIS NAME! Love, Tim Hines |
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54 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM! | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88706 | ||
Anyone who can shed more light on this scripture? As we proclaimed the Gospel we are proclaiming his death burial and resurrection, this is lifting him up were he is seated at the right hand of God in heaven. THIS WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO HIM. I am not your Lord he is, but why one would want to discount one of the most powerful verses for evangelism and building up the saints, I will never know. I walk in this and he draws all men unto him when I proclaim his great name. I pray that you receive spiritual enlightenment of this verse. Love, Tim Hines |
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55 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM! | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88718 | ||
Try it you will like it! Practice it and see the fruits! Love, Tim Hines God will not strike you down for proving his word. |
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56 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88732 | ||
I am sorry that you do not see this scripture as It has been revieled to me, I operate in it's spiritual power every day. The word that I have posted on the forum is the truth as it has been revield by the Spirit to me, I am not saying I have no error in my life, I am submitted to God and he will lead me into his truth. Just because you do not understand it, does not mean I am wrong! Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: Numbers 21:4 And they journeyed from mount Hor by the way of the Red sea, to compass the land of Edom: and the soul of the people was much discouraged because of the way. 5 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. 6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. 8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. As we lift up Jesus Christ from the earth, people look at him and are healed. People of this world including believers are looking at their problems and thereby being devoured and killed by snakes (problems of this world), if they will look to Jesus high and lifted up they will be healed. Look to Jesus not the problems of this world. (Poisonous snakes) My heart pours out to those who do not believe in the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, tongs, , the gifts, miracles, and God actually speaking to us through the Spirit. MY PRAYER FOR YOU IS THAT YOU FIND THE WONDERFUL LIBERTY WE HAVE IN CHRIST JESUS AND THAT HE GIVE UNTO YOU THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM AND REVELATION TO COMPREHEND THE HEIGHT, DEPTH AND WITH OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD! Eph 1:17 My prayer also is that everyone reading this will pray for me to further be revealed the truth from the Spirit of God. Love, Tim Hines |
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57 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88742 | ||
Moses lifteed up the serpent in the wilderness, Jesus was lifted up on a cross and died for the sins of all mankind. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST PRAISING GOD FOR SENDING JESUS CHRIST TO DIE AND SHED HIS BLOOD ON THE CROSS, PROCLAMING IT TO THE WORLD? WHEN I DO THIS PEOPLE ARE DRAWN TO GOD. TRY IT YOU WILL LIKE IT! LOVE. TIM |
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58 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88754 | ||
Hank I perceive you are a man puffed up in your human understanding of the word. The greatest thing you have accomplished is insulting me and my walk and tried to intimidate me. You have missed the point and due to the fact that you seem only interested in shutting me up and insulting me, I believe it has come time to part ways. Nothing you have said to me has been Spiritually edifying. I have tried to offer edification on a scripture I believe very strongly on. You have rejected it. The letter killeth but the Spirit givith life. As far as studying the word I no of no one that studies more. Thank you! I pray that you find the truth, I hope you do the same for me! Tim |
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59 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88781 | ||
The question is not what I mean by it "You tell me what you think it means" you are the one who is so convinced that I am wrong. You must know what it means. We have to put the bible to use in our lives and learn that it is alive. We are following Christ by a new and living way not by a written code, we have to walk by the Spirit through revelation knowledge. (Living way, quickened by the life of Christ) There is a Spiritual component to the word of God. Have you though of communicating something that would edify the hearers of what you speak. I have red nothing that you have written that gives encouragement, you are just expressing your views you are right and I am wrong. I walk in the Spirit as the Lord leads, I am sorry if you find it offensive! Love Tim |
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60 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88782 | ||
I pray that you will learn to walk in the Spirit. Love, Tim |
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