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41 | when, where and why did lucifer fall | Is 14:12 | tgc | 121808 | ||
ministermay, I have to agree with sbaegon Lucifer's fall did come after the creation and pride was the reason although I think arrogance and envy was invovled as well. When Lucifer saw that he would never be able to have a place with God like the crowning jewel of His creation Man would his pride was deeply offened. Therefore he rebeld against God. Of course there are other reasons he rebeled but I think this is the key. In The Love of Christ, tgc |
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42 | What is rotten fruit? | Matt 7:17 | tgc | 122282 | ||
bstudent3, A great example of a false prophet is all the Jws there track record on prophecies is perfect They have missed every one. According to The Harp of God 1928 ed. " 1799 definitely marks the beginning of the time of the end." Again from The Harp Of God "The time of the Lord's second presence dates back from 1874...." or how about Charles Taze Russell, The Time Is at Hand pg. 101 " The battle of tyhe great day of God Almighty Rev,16:14 which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced." or how about Charles Taze Russell The Finished Mystery 1917 ed. pg. 485 " In the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by millions it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russel to learn the meaning of the downfall of Christianity." or The Watch Tower July 15, 1924 pg.211 " The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave Isreal. Viewing the present situation in Europe one wonders how it will be possible to hold back the explosion much longer; and even before 1925 the great crisis will be reached and probly passed." Now jump foward to Nov. 1, 1995 The Watchtower pg. 17-20 " Eager to see the end of this evil system, Jehovah's People have at times speculated about the time when the 'great tribulation' would break out, even tying this to calulations of what is the lifetime of a generation since 1914. However we 'bring a heart of wisdom in'not by speculating about how many years or days make up a generation....' This generation' apparently refers tothe peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ's presence but fail to mend their ways." How many times does someone have to make false prophecies to be a false prophet ONE how many has the Watch Tower Society made? Somewhere along the line I have lost count. What is the current date JWs are calling for Christ return. Oh I am sorry you think He is here now in an invisible form. However all of Scripture screams out against this. Walter Martinin his excellent work The Kingdom of the Cults makes the following observation on pg. 135. " A little longer and the world will behold me no more John 14:19 NWT For I say to you, You will by no means see me from henceforth until you say, " Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah's name!' Mat. 23:39 NWT These two passages in their repective contexts give no support to the Russellite doctrine of an invisible "presence" of Christ for two very excellent reason A. John14:19 refers to Chrsit's anticapated death and ressurection--the "yet alittle while" He made reference to could only have referred to His ressurectionand subsequent ascention Acts 1 ;9-11 before which time and during the period following His ressurection He appeared only to belivers, not the world or unbelivers, hence the clear meaning of His words. Jesus never said that no one would ever "see Him again in human form " as the Watchtower likes to make out. Rather in the same Chapter John 14 He promised to come again and receive yo unto myself; that where I am ther you may be also. The Bible also is quite clear in telling us that one day by His grace alone "we shall be like Him; for we shall see him as He is . So the Watchtower once more is forced into silence by the voice of the Holy Spirit. B. This second text Mat. 23:39 really proves nothing at all for the Watchtoer's faltering arguments except that Jerusalem will never see Christ again until it blesses Him in repentance as the Anointed of God. Actually the text hurts the Russellite position, for it teaches that Christ will br visible at His coming elese they could not see Him to bless Him in the name of the Lord. Christ also qualified the statement with the word until a definite reference to His visible second advent Mat. 24:30." A little off track maybe but it all points out that if tha apply the test of a false profit as given in Deut. the Watchtower definitely qualifies. You realize if we were still under the law all the founders of the Jw movement would have been taken outside the city gates and stoned. tgc |
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43 | What is rotten fruit? | Matt 7:17 | tgc | 122416 | ||
bstudent3, the lie of the Watchtower is letting you down in the light of the many reponses from God's Word . You have now drop any pretense of biblical reference and gone on a political rampage. As I have already shown you the stinking rotten fruit is the lies spread by the Watchtower society. The cancer it brings into the world. I personally have written a post to you sharing the truth of God's Love and his plan for salvation but you have refused not me but our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. So now I will have to take the advice of Jesus Christ himself and not cast my pearls before swine. I sincerly hope oneday you will wake up to the reality fo the lies you are following and come to Jesus in repentance trusting Him for your salvation His way not that of Charles Taxe Russell. I challenge you to look into the history of your organization and see it for what it is Jevoah's False Wittness. tgc | ||||||
44 | Explanation of Mat. 9:14-17 please | Matt 9:17 | tgc | 121705 | ||
countrypreacher and following him, Thanks for your responses. They have really helped. If you have anymore thoughts on this passage please let me know. Again thanks alot. In The Love of Christ, tgc |
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45 | Your thoughts? | Matt 12:32 | tgc | 128389 | ||
New Creature, No it is not possible for that child to disown God. Let me qoute just two passages of scriptures that lead me to belive this way. First John 10:28-29 NKJV 28 "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 "My Father, who has given [them] to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch [them] out of My Father's hand. Breaking these two verses down lets see where it leads us. Who gives eternal life? Jesus what is the promise of eternal life to the belivers? they shall never perish nor can ANYONE snatch them out of My hand. Who does the hand belong to? Jesus Who has given these belivers to Jesus? God the Father. Who is greater than the Father? No one Who can take belivers out of God the Fathers hand? No one Our salvation begins and ends with Jesus we can do nothing to save ourselves and once we are saved by grace we can do nothing to keep our salvation it all Jesus. The next passage I want to look at is Romans 8:26-39 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit [is,] because He makes intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God. 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to [His] purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined [to be] conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. 31 What then shall we say to these things? If God [is] for us, who [can be] against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? [It is] God who justifies. 34 Who [is] he who condemns? [It is] Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [Shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written: "For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter." 37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. This passage really speaks for itself and ther is no need to go in to a breakdown of it. Really this passage just strengthens or adds to the previous taking the same thought worded in differnet way but saying the same thing. Hope this helps. In The Love Of Christ,tgc |
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46 | Jesus brothers. | Matt 12:46 | tgc | 123867 | ||
Emmaus, As far as verses speaking of Jesus's siblings how about? Matthew 13 : 53-58 Mark 3:31-35 Galatins 1:18-19 . These are just a few verses that pop to mind. But to say there is nowhere in the Bible that talks about Jesus's brothers and sisters is not at all correct as these passages show. In the Love Of Christ, tgc | ||||||
47 | Jesus brothers. | Matt 12:46 | tgc | 123868 | ||
Emmaus, As far as verses speaking of Jesus's siblings how about? Matthew 13 : 53-58 Mark 3:31-35 Galatins 1:18-19 . These are just a few verses that pop to mind. But to say there is nowhere in the Bible that talks about Jesus's brothers and sisters is not at all correct as these passages show. In the Love Of Christ, tgc | ||||||
48 | Jesus brothers. | Matt 12:46 | tgc | 123869 | ||
Emmaus, As far as verses speaking of Jesus's siblings how about? Matthew 13 : 53-58 Mark 3:31-35 Galatins 1:18-19 . These are just a few verses that pop to mind. But to say there is nowhere in the Bible that talks about Jesus's brothers and sisters is not at all correct as these passages show. In the Love Of Christ, tgc | ||||||
49 | Would you? | Mark 16:15 | tgc | 122159 | ||
Greetings Aixen7z4, Somehow I missed this post until today. You speak much truth in this post I will admit I love to take part in intellectual discussions, however I do check the board everyday to see if their is someone posting a question concerning salvation. My friend do not be discouraged in doing God's work.And remeber there is a place for intellectual debate remember iron sharpens iron. With this said I'm of the opion all of us on the forum who are disciples of our great Lord Savior and God Jesus Christ should give any post concerning salvation foremost attention. In The Love Of Christ, tgc |
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50 | How could God send anyone to hell ? | John | tgc | 141442 | ||
The answer to this question is that God does not send anyone to Hell. We choose that for ourselves by rejecting Jesus as our Lord and Savior. For a scriptural backing to ths just look at John chapter 3 verses 1-21. This is Jesus discourse with Nicodemus on the matter of salvation. To show that God does not accept man on man's terms but only on the terms of Christ Himself just look to Acts chapter 17 :16-34 this is Paul's adress to the Areopagus where he discusses these matters with the people of Greece and therir religous system. Then there is the ovious that if we could just have any belief system we want it really doesn't matter then what good was the Cross. To see the biblical view of religous systems other than that which was brought by Jesus check the books of 1 John and 2 John. This is just a very basic scetch that I have given much more could be said some exceelent works have been written on this issue from those such as Hank Hengraffe, Norman Giesler,Josh McDowell, and others some titles that come to mind are When Skeptics Ask, When Critics Ask, and The Bible Answer Book just to name a few. Also last term in school we where in the writtings of John and had to write a lesson plan out of these my paper was based out of John chapter 3 and I would be glad to email to you if you like as it is to large to post. Hope this helps. In The Love Of Christ, tgc |
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51 | How could God send anyone to hell ? | John | tgc | 141522 | ||
Well there has to be a first time for everything Doc, as far as I can remember this is the first time we have disagreed. Now understand that I agree with you in that we are saved from God's wrath through Jesus. I agree with you that that the worst thing that could happen to a person is to stand naked in ones own works and their own strength before a Holy and Rightpous God. I would also agree that a very good question is how could God allow us in to His heaven. The answer to this is grace. The reason Jesus came was to make it possible for us to be united with God through the rightousness of Christ. God put together a plan from before the foundation of the world to redeem all those who would belive through faith on the name of Jesus. God has revealed Himself through Natural Law, Creation, the prophets, Through The Incarnation of Jesus, the Holy Bible, His church. God has made every opportunity for man to repent and belive in the name of Jesus and He has clearly informed us of what it means to reject Jesus that is seperation from Him for all eternity in hell. So if God has went to such great lengths such as the cross then man has to make a choice to either accept Jesus and msake Him Lord and Savior or rejecrt Him and pay the cost of that rejection. I fail to see how this view in anyway minimizes man's guilt or demeans the Holiness of God in anyway. I would argue just the opposite that it clearly and definitely highlights man's guilt and man's helplessness to do anything about that guilt before a just and holy God and that only through the devine intervention of God can man have any hope. I would also argue that it highlights God's holiness in that He wqorks through creatures that can choose to accept or reject Him and not through robots preprogramed. This arguement is not to protect God but to glorify Him in all His majasty. In The Love Of Christ, tgc |
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52 | How could God send anyone to hell ? | John | tgc | 141551 | ||
I guess I am dense in that I do not see how this statement would deny the Truth of Heb.10:13. If one rejecrs Christ and stands alone in front of a Just and Holy God then what a fearful thing it would be. I hate to even imagine anything of the sort. However this goes back to our choice of accepting or rejecting Christ as Lord and Savior He as done all the work neccessary for aour redemption and made the choices very plain now we have to choose Him or hell. I just do not understand how this could be considered unsound doctrine. Doc, I have the upmost respect for your views and opions as you have so well expressed them here on the forum, I enjoy very much just stopping by and browsing the forum to see what you and a few others have been discussing so please do not feel that I in anyway am tring to be disrespectful to you but again I just do not understand your view. In The Love Of Christ, tgc |
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53 | How could God send anyone to hell ? | John | tgc | 141685 | ||
Doc, you have no need to aplogize for anything, you have simplely stated your position from an understanding of scripture which is different than he way I understand it. I only wish to understand your point of view as I have much respect for it. In The Love Of Christ, tgc |
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54 | Define Christian entertainment | John 14:12 | tgc | 125689 | ||
Very well said Angel. Today it seems the brighter the lights the louder and more upbeat the music the more Godly it is suppose to be. We seem to have forgotten that if Christ be lifted up HE will draw men to Him. Your view of the misuse of Paul's writtings is insightful to this let me add I have heard it said Jesus hung out with sinners and did not say anything about whst they were doingso why should we. Again an extreme misuse of scripture. I wonder how will we ever get back to true worship of God in spirit and truth. Any thoughts? In The Love Of Christ, tgc | ||||||
55 | Define Christian entertainment | John 14:12 | tgc | 125924 | ||
Well said Doc We cannot rely on our feelings. With that said I think I know what Edd is talking about , I think what he is refering to is that when he leaves a time of corporate worship he wants to know that he has met with God. I think this is a longing all of share. I to have felt the f;ustration that Edd speaks of then I really read the first two chapters of the book of acts and real meditate on what is there with this in mind and speeped in prayer we looked for a group of belivers who shared this same passion The Lord did provid and now we do have a real time of worship together with other belivers. I belive that a big part of this comes from the small groups we have that meet in homes. People are more themselves in this setting and we really seek God in prayer and through the stidy of His Word. Yes Edd I will be lifting you up in prayer. I hope some of my rambling helps. In The Love Of Christ,tgc | ||||||
56 | Is speaking in tongues a necessity ? | Acts 2:4 | tgc | 122041 | ||
Jilliebean, justme is exactly right. Many in certain movements do make the claims you have spoke of. But let us look to God's Word for the answere. First let us consider tongues look up 1 Cor. 12 and13. You will find listed many gifts and Paul makes it clear that not everyone has the same gifts rather each one of us has different gifts so minstery can be carried on. If we all had the same gifts then there would be alot of things not getting done. The one gift we should all share is the gift of love. This is the one that will last. Many people go to church looking for an experience some big emotional event however God's voice is usually heard as a still small voice. As far as slain in the spirit there is no place in the Bible that this is supported. If you look up the references that the people who promote this use you will find that it is always the enemies of Jesus falling away from Him not belivers. An example of this is the mob in the Garden that falls back When Jesus answeres I AM. The phenomenon of slain in the spirit can be traced back to Maria Beulah Woodworth-Etter who died in 1924. She figured out that by working people into an altered state of mind and playing off their emotions and working off the effect of the fact people came looking for just such an experience this can be pulled off. For more information on this subject you can go to www.equip.org or pick up a copy of Hank Hanegraaff's great book Counterfeit Revival. I hope this Helps. In The Love of Christ, tgc | ||||||
57 | Is speaking in tongues a necessity ? | Acts 2:4 | tgc | 122093 | ||
Hank, Yes many of us are comfortable with our illusions however many people are mislead by all of the garbage that has slipped into our churches. With the Word Faith crowd having gained such a huge following and their ability through the TBN network to raise millions of dollars to spread their lies we must be ever viligant to be ready to give a reason for the hope that lies within us with gentleness and respect. To that end try to keep an open line of communication with people who have been hooked by the lies of false teaching and be ready to share the Truth of Christ with them at every opportunity. Another point of interest along this line is that many people re taken in by this type teaching because they do not really understand the doctrin of grace. They are still trying to earn their way into Heaven. Finally today people have always been seaking an experience something different something big there fore they are especially looking for this in the church and in some of these movements they are easily able to find it. Even if it is not real. Scripture tells us that in the last days people will not put up with sound teaching but they will heap up for themselves teachers to scratch their itching ears. In plain lanuage people for the most are going to go where they can hear what they want to hear. And you know and I know that the Gospel is offensive by it's very nature. Always remember that the greatest spiritual gift is love so let us go foward in love sharing the Gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to all who have ears to hear. In The Love of Christ, tgc |
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58 | Salvation by compulsion-Romans 5 | Rom 5:1 | tgc | 121917 | ||
formereveything,good evening, I really think Tim Moran and Angel summed things up nicely but let me add that when God created man He created Him to live forever. Because we choose sin death came into this world. But that does not change the fact God created us to always exist from the point of our conception foward. Therefore salvation would be the wrong term for what you are refering to I think the word you are looking for is ressurection. And yes all will be resurrected in that we have no option. What we do have an option in is will it be resurrected to glory with Christ or eternal damnation.Salvation is not manatory salvation comes when you surrender to Christ as Lord of your life in a state of repentence. Salvation is an excercise of our free will respnding with the faith God has given is to the Gospel. Resurrection is a fact we cannot avoid. Hope this helps. In The Love of Christ, tgc |
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59 | when was our sin debt paid | Rom 6:9 | tgc | 121454 | ||
Hamk, Thanks for your answere. I agree with you completely on this point. I generally ask this question to find out a little bit about those I am in conversation with. tgc |
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60 | Praying in tongues | Rom 8:26 | tgc | 121812 | ||
Greetings 8788, Please keep in prospective that prayer is all about us building a relationship with the Creator God of the universe. Remember God already knows what your going to ask before you ask. Do not be so concerned with tongues for they will pass away if they have not already. I belive tongues is a known lanuage one is giving the ability to speak through the power of the Holy Spirit. As far as having time for prayer take Paul's advice and pray without ceasing. This means an attitude of prayer. Remember prayer should contain worship praise intercession and any request you have to make. I hope this has helped you. Focus first on Christ and building that relationship He wants with you. In The Love Of Christ, tgc |
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