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41 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | benjamite | 61280 | ||
Okay, so if that is all it takes, then Paul should have been able to talk to the Corinthians as Spiritual men. Yet Paul's context goes beyond the chapter divisions, for he says, "And (continuing the thought) I, brethren, could not speak to you (the believing, but still fleshly Corinthians) as to spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as to infants in Christ." (3:1) (parenthetical thoughts are mine) The problem in Corinth was that the baby believers could not handle the solid food. Yes, they have the Spirit of God, but they were still fleshly. (3:2-3) The problem is that it is more than just whether one has the Spirit or not. |
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42 | How can anyone be saved? | 1 Cor 2:14 | benjamite | 61694 | ||
A natural man seems to me to be one who does not have the spirit. A spiritual man seems to me to be one who is living by the Spirit. However, it seems like there is some sort of a "mix" - believers who still act like unbelievers. So with that admitted, I guess the question is, "Do 3:1ff and 2:14 refer to the same group?" I need to work on that. |
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43 | visions and revelations | 1 Cor 12:7 | benjamite | 37610 | ||
If you mean "all believers" when you say "all who has had a revelation", I agree, (1 Cor 2:10). 1 Corinthians 12 addresses the building up of the church - the body. It addresses the individuals as parts of the one body. God, through His Holy Spirit, enables us to understand spiritual things 1 Cor 2:10-13. These things are hidden to unbelievers, 2:6-8, but we have the mind of Christ, 2:16. As you read through 1 Corinthians, you'll notice that there were divisions and quarrels in Corinth (1:10-11). When Paul addresses them, he does not speak towards their individuality (although there are many body parts). He stresses their unity - one body (12:20). The manifestations of the Spirit are for the common good of those who have the Spirit. He will give understanding to those who are His. |
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44 | visions and revelations | 1 Cor 12:7 | benjamite | 37650 | ||
"Romans 8:29....says god predestined and foreknew who he would call......how does he do it since man cannot see him....." People don't need to see the One who calls. People only needs to hear. (Take for example, a telephone.) Also, Ps. 19:1, "The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands." (NASB) The Bible is the Word of God (Matt. 15:6; Luke 5:1) It is breathed out, or inspired, by God (2 Tim 3:16) Being a prophet is a heavy burden to bear. Deut 18:22 “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him." (NASB) |
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45 | Definition of a bible bully | 1 Cor 13:4 | benjamite | 35872 | ||
Brother Eagle One, I have only been on this planet for two years longer than you've been saved, but I have noticed that Christians are human beings. We cannot get around it. Often, we say and do things that are in character with our sinful human nature but are way out of character with the Name by which we are called. I am definitely no exception. As you might be able to tell from some of my posts, there are some that I definitely should not have written. This may, and probably will, happen again. "Knowledge makes arrogant..." (1 Cor 8:1). I don't like this, but I have to deal with it. At the same time, I don't wish to be judged on the basis of those posts I should not have written, but some might do so. Realizing that I am just as prone as others to saying things that I shouldn't makes it easier to talk with people on the forum. It helps me to roll with the punches, and I try to be more understanding towards them and more cautious now in my own posts/responses than I was. Keep posting, Benjamite |
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46 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 35939 | ||
Granted. It is elsewhere, though. Not as far as who gets (or who is) what gift, but how the gifts are used. The original question was about whether women can be pastors. My point was that this verse, based on the other scriptural evidence, does not give license to do so. 1 Cor 14:40 "But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner." In Him, Benjamite |
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47 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36146 | ||
"Pastor" is only used once in the New Testament Eph 4:11, however, the word translated "pastor" is the greek word poimen - found 18 times in the New Testament and is usually translated "shepherd" (see Luke 2, John 10, and elsewhere). |
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48 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36151 | ||
We need to define our terms - "pastors" and "teachers". If you mean someone who teaches or shepherds a normal "mixed" church gathering (both men and women), the Bible explicitly says "No" - 1 Timothy 2:12, 1 Cor 14:34. As you see from my other post, "Pastor" is only used once in the New Testament - Eph 4:11. The word translated "pastor" is the greek word poimen - found 18 times in the New Testament and is usually translated "shepherd" (see Luke 2, John 10, and elsewhere). Can women teach other women? Yes. From Titus 2:3-5, "Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored." In Him, Benjamite |
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49 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36533 | ||
I'm not sure I understand your question. You asked me about a Biblical definition of "pastor". As far as the Greek word is concerned, there is no difference between a pastor or a shepherd- it is the same word. One tends a flock of sheep, the other tends a flock of people (the church). In usage, all instances except for the one in Eph 4:11, it is translated "shepherd" - with the qualification that Jesus refers to himself, and is refered to as the Shepherd or the Good Shepherd - John 10 and elsewhere. Did I answer your question? |
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50 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36538 | ||
We aren't talking about what happens outside the church. You asked about women being pastors. I assumed you meant inside the church. If you'll notice the top paragraph in the note you responded to, you'll see that I qualified my response, limiting it to a "normal 'mixed' church gathering ([meaning] both men and women)". Christ is the Head of the Church. What I say, doesn't matter. What He says, does. |
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51 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36595 | ||
If your question is "Do women have spiritual gifts?" My answer is "yes". Remember, from my first post, the Greek word for men is the generic word for men - anthropos (you might recognize it in the word "anthropology" (had Paul wanted to mean only males, he would have used a form of the word "aner" - explicitly "male", "man", or "husband" and not "female", "woman", or "wife"). If your question is, "Should the gifts that are given be used anywhere and at anytime?" My answer (for either gender) is no. In an earlier post, I believe I gave Scripture references of 1 Corinthians 11 and 14. Actually, a better response would have been 1 Corinthians 11-14. If you truly want to know more about how the gifts are to be used, read those four chapters. Please don't get me wrong. I want to help your understanding of scripture as much as I can, and will continue to do so if I am able. Perhaps if you read it for yourself, the Lord is probably able to do something more than what I'm capable of doing here. |
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52 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36676 | ||
Meaningless? I neither said nor implied that these verses are meaningless. I have answered your question about the contribution of the women. If you'll remember, I said,"Can women teach other women? Yes. From Titus 2:3-5, 'Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.'" I'm going to answer your other post here, so we can tie everything together. When we look at meetings of the Church in the New Testament, we see that, "They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles' teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer." (Acts 2:42 NASB) The meetings of the church consist of at least one of these four things. You seem to imply, here, that everybody contributes (or should contribute) verbally all the time. That is clearly not Biblical. If you haven't read chapters 11-14 of 1 Corinthians, at least read 14:26-40. For the sake of brevity, here, I close with verse 40, "But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner." |
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53 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36680 | ||
I have answered this question in my other post, dated Thu 02/28/02, 2:42pm, in response to, "'I hope you are not in any way implying t...' tuli Thu 02/28/02, 12:32pm." | ||||||
54 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36790 | ||
Why don't we consider Priscilla (sometimes called "Prisca")? Acts 18:26 "and he (Apollos) began to speak out boldly in the synagogue. But when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately." We see Priscilla involved with "explaining the way of God". This was a private matter. Does this help? If you want to know more about Priscilla, do a search for "Prisc" (it will pick up both spellings that way). I hope you don't mind my giving a different example. There are some who would put Eunice and Lois (the mother and grandmother of Timothy) into the category of "Children, obey your parents", "Honor your father and mother", or "Train up a child". With Anna, she was before the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, and because of that, some would see her as outside the church (Like Esther, Ruth, and Deborah, the judge.) In Him, Benjamite |
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55 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36883 | ||
It is true that the word "ekklesia" (usually translated "church") is used of Israel. It is used of secular gatherings, as well, (cf. Acts 19:32-41). In Acts 7:38, is the reference to a congregation of believers, unbelievers, or a mixed gathering? Anna was, however before the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. We don't, like David, need to say, "Do not take your Holy Spirit from me." (Ps. 51:11) If we are saved, we have the Spirit (Romans 8:9). If we don't, we are not saved (Jude 19). Notice also that Anna was before the time when Jesus said, "I will build my church" (Matthew 16:18). In Matthew 16:18, by Jesus' own statement, we know that the church was not in existence, yet. By the time of Acts 2:47 (NKJV or 5:11 in the NASB) it had begun. If you don't mind my saying so, saying "God uses them to speak to His people" might be true, but it is not quite complete. God also uses donkeys and unbelievers (Numbers 22, John 11:49-53). Did they lose this privilege? In the church, there is (or should be) order.(1 Cor 14:40) |
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56 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 36895 | ||
Let me answer your question with another question. What do you understand 1 Corinthians 14:26-40 to say? This is how the Bible defines order. "God is not a God of confusion but of peace" (1 Cor 14:33a, NASB) In summary: 1. If, and only if, an interpreter is present, are two or three "tongues" spoken, at most. Or else no tongues are spoken. (27-28) 2. Two or three prophets (one at a time).(29-32) 3. The women are to keep silent in the churches, and are to subject themselves and ask at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. (34-35) |
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57 | What does men in Eph. 4:8 mean? | Eph 4:8 | benjamite | 37031 | ||
It has everything to do with Eph 4:8. We are talking about the usage of spiritual gifts, aren't we? Why would 1 Corinthians 14:26-40 not apply? Proper usage of the gifts He gave to men will be in line with 1 Corinthians 14:26-40. Forgive me, but there are times where I feel like I'm reinventing the wheel at each step. This seems like something that would be better worked out one-on-one. I'm not sure of your background, but if you have a pastor or elder whom you trust and whose opinion you respect, why not talk to them about this? |
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58 | info on marriage how to treat each outh | Col 3:18 | benjamite | 33218 | ||
I do sincerely apologize. The question asked was not tied to any specific verse. I tied it to only the first verse of the smallest of the three passages I listed. Each passage must be taken in context, however. (So, we see that Paul agrees with you, Mr. SRN) "Husbands, love your wives and do not be embittered against them." (Colossians 3:19) Eph 5:25, "Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her..." (As I also mentioned in the original note, and thanks to Mr. Curtnsally, for recalling it.) Is it really that convenient? |
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59 | info on marriage how to treat each outh | Col 3:18 | benjamite | 33259 | ||
To answer your last question. What I meant to say was that this verse (with the note attached to it) goes along with the next. I guess, also, I wanted to point out that there were three passages (at least, but three I listed) on the subject) at hand, not just the one verse. The Lord, through Paul, addresses both the husbands and the wives. (Not just the wives.) And now for the first, I agree with you on the "convenience". I do not consider it convenient to love someone else (and it doesn't have to be). To me, it seems like a heavy load to bear (like most (or could I say "each of the rest") of God's commandments). Sorry for the confusion. Benjamite |
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60 | info on marriage how to treat each outh | Col 3:18 | benjamite | 33452 | ||
Hi Curt, I'm up to it. At Emmaus, I did take a class in Soteriology (Salvation), and have just read through a couple books since Christmas, this year. With the understanding that there have been many Godly men who are or were on all sides of the "Predestination vs. Free Will Debate", I am comfortable where I stand on the issue. I will say this, however, a discussion like this can tend to get heated (or extremely emotional). I've seen that happen more than I care to mention. Anyone who joins the discussion must be able to "agree to disagree". Did you have any questions in mind? In Him, Ben |
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