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41 | Repent or believe, which is first? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167135 | ||
You may suggest an "order" but I do not see one in the Bible with reference to our discussion. | ||||||
42 | Essentials, where is the proof? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167136 | ||
Hi Justme, 1. This thinking is not mine but James'. 2. Luther may have gotten it right but, over the years, this idea of "salvation by faith alone" went too far (or maybe Luther went too far to the other extreme). I cannot say actually what is what as far as this is concerned. All I can say is that, for the most part, what I see as Biblical faith is not being expounded correctly by theologians and pastors of today. I heartily agree, "Grace is freely given, but never without a cost." |
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43 | Essentials, where is the proof? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167152 | ||
Hi Tim. Does that mean you think my position is warranted? |
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44 | Essentials, where is the proof? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167170 | ||
Tim, As per Vincent's quote: "More correctly as Rev., 'obeyeth not'; disbelief is regarded in its active manifestation, disobedience." As such, and warranted with other language reference works, it seems to me that there is a distinction between the Greek words in question with respect to John 3:36. As such, from your comment, it seems that you disagree. No problem; I just wanted clarification. Thanks. |
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45 | Essentials, where is the proof? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167209 | ||
Justme, Your concern is valid. I was wrong to make such a remark. Please accept my apology. |
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46 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167305 | ||
Hi WOS. I was only briefly describing what repentence is, not how it works. "Grace and mercy" I do not think define repentence but that is not to say it is found without God's activity. |
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47 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167381 | ||
It seems what you suggest falls short of true repentance, at least, as I read it from the Bible (see verses #167082). Genuine repentance requires obedience for it to be real. Godly repentance assumes the obedience has been rendered. True repentance does involve emotional and volitional changes as you suggested. That voltional change is deciding to cease being disobedient to God and being obedient; without "fruits of repentance" there is no genuine repentance. No one suggested it is a one time event and because one may continually fall into a specific sin, that in itself does nto mean there is no repentance. I don't understand your comment, "If obedience is repentance then there is no need for repentance once we do repent because we are obedient and you and I both know that is not the case". Repentance assumes disobedience. And, as I stated, maybe repentance is not obedience but it's genuiness of repentance is demonstarted through obedience. As I stated earlier, To "believe with your heart" is to repent; obedience to God is the "bringing of fruit worthy of repentance". |
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48 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167494 | ||
I don not think it is for the "unbliever" alone. The life of a Christian is a life of faith and repentance; that is, the life of continual trust and changing directions where such change is required. I do not think one stops practicing repentance when required just after he becomes a believer. |
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49 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167510 | ||
Hi CDBJ I don't see in the Bible the act of repentance is different for the unbeliever in relation to the believer, at least, that is not how I read it in the Bible. For the believer and the unbeliever, Biblical and genuine repentance involves a turn from disobedience to obedience towards God. Although 1 Jn 1:9 is written to believers, it does not demand that it be limited to believers; if an unbeliever confesses his sin and turns from it, God is still "just and may be trusted to forgive our sins and cleanse us from every kind of wrongdoing" (NRSV). If one is under the control of the, what you call, "sin nature", there is cause to question their salvation. There is no such thing as a believer being enslaved by the "sinful nature" (Rom 8:7, NRSV). That many misinterpret Rev 3:20 is no reason to suppose that the meaning and act of repentance is different between believer and unbeliever. |
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50 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167577 | ||
True repentance does not stop with sorrow. True repentance is not just sorrow for sin; it may begin with sorrow but it ends in obedience. Sorrow without obedience is not repentance. No matter how much one grieves at being “wretched”, if there is only sorrow but no follow-up with obedience, their repentance is false. Out of all the quotes you cited, Spurgeon’s reflects Biblical repentance; that is, to “show...earnest grieve By doing so no more.” |
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51 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167578 | ||
It seems there is a misunderstanding. I am suggesting that there is a difference between true an false repentance; there is no difference between what is required from believer or unbeliever with respect to the act of repentance. |
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52 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167580 | ||
See my response to Samantha, #167578. | ||||||
53 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167592 | ||
I don't understand the question. It seems as if you are asking, "Are you suggesting that there is repentance unto regeneration before regeneration?" or, "Are you suggesting that there is repentance unto salvation before salvation?" |
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54 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167631 | ||
Lionheart, I cited the incorrect posting for your review. The correct post is ID#167082. Some verses are cited to support my view regarding repentance. My apologies. Also, I can agree with your comment, “The unbeliever will never [repent] till they come to Jesus Christ with a saving faith, which goes way beyond worldly sorrow” and add only that “saving faith” involves repentance, which, in turn, may or may not involve sorrow (godly or otherwise, at least, at the time of conversion) but necessarily involves obedience to God. I say that it may involve sorrow bot not necessarily based upon my own conversion experience. When I came to Christ, I did not have a sorrow for sin; all I was only aware of a strong desire to know God and realized it is only through the Cross of Christ that God is known and experienced. (Just as an aside, I was not even aware that I possessed eternal life until some weeks after my conversion). |
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55 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 167633 | ||
WOS, In the first place, what gives you the notion that I am "playing"? You asked, "Or are you suggesting that there is repentance unto life before regeneration?" Your question is confusing because regeneration is the act of God imparting new life. Therefore, you are asking if "repentance unto life" (i.e. the repentance that leads to new life) is before new life (regeneration). My question is, how can repentance be "unto life" if the life is already imparted before repentance is acted upon? Should it not rather be phrased, "regeneration unto repentance"? In the second place, my point is what repentance is - how it is Biblically defined - which is not different in activity between the believer and the unbeliever. That is, repentance is turning in obedience to God. There need be no denial that sorrow and a change of mind is involved but the change from disobedience to obedience is necessary in order for repentance to be genuine. Example. An unbeliever is in disobedience to God. What God requires of him is that he cease from sinning and turn to Him in faith or, if you'd rather, he turn to God in faith and cease from sinning. A believer may be involved in sin. What does God require of Him. God requires the believer to also to cease from sinning and turn to Him in faith or, if you'd rather, he turn to God in faith and cease from sinning. That the former act of repentance may lead to salvation and the latter to restored fellowship is immaterial with respect to how the word "repentance" is understood. In the third place, I am not discussing how repentance works upon or in the believer or unbeliever, whether or not God plays a part in it, or its relation with, if any, regeneration; I am only stating what it is (as far as I understand it in the Bible). In the fourth place, I do not think "repentance requires faith" for there are those who may be truely repentant for their wrongdoing, nevertheless, do not turn to Christ in faith for their salvation. In extreme cases, you may meet a recovering alcoholic or a drug addict who quit their respective addictive behavior for one reason or another and are leading productive, as far as worldly values are concerned, lives. However, faith (if it is to be genuine and result in God's salvation) necessarily requires repentance. |
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56 | Does my view violate context or grammer? | Gen 27:33 | atdcross | 185104 | ||
Hi Tim! You said that the emphasis of Heb 12:17 is to "a decision that cannot be changed." I agree. That was my jist, which I may not have made clear. And I added that it has reference ultimately to God, that is (as I stated in point #2), "Isaac's refusal to change it [the blessing] was in recognition of God's mind in the matter." |
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57 | Healing | Ps 115:3 | atdcross | 161443 | ||
Hypocrites in the Church do not disprove the enabling power of God to live godly. That history shows dark times when christians persecuted Christians does not disprove the existence of God. In the same way, although there have been or are those who have not presented the doctrine and practice of healing in a positive and Biblical light, that does not mean that healing (as Jesus and the apostles practiced it) is not for today. Allow me to respectfully submit that I do not see where the Bible portrays Jesus' power to heal as "incidental to his mission." Healing was essential in identifying Messiah. When asked if he were the Messiah, Jesus told them to look at his credentials. What were his credentials? Healings (Luke 7:22)! Jesus quoted from Isaiah 35:5 and 61:1, which gave the description of Messiah; this was how the Jews would be able to identify the true Messiah, by these "signs and wonders" performed. If Hank's assertion is true (and I believe it is) that the healings were in order to "authenticate who He was, the Messiah," how could they be "incidental"? To answer Jason's questions: 1. We don't have the same power because we do not believe that God desires to heal. Where there is doubt of God's will, faith is uncertain. 2. As a consequence of unbelief, we do not ask for healing: "you do not have because you do not ask" (James 4:2). 3. On the whole, the teaching about healing is misunderstood, many times taught with an apparent erroneous emphasis, and poorly put into practice. 4. Concerning your grandmother, my question is, when is it ever wrong to pray for God to heal the sick? |
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58 | God being lonely? | Mal 4:2 | atdcross | 164027 | ||
The last book in the Hebrew canon is 2 Chronicles wherein some glimmer of hope is given after seventy years of prophesied Israel's deportation and desolation in the land. But with that hope came 400 years of silence; no prophets arose, no judges arose. The poem is sad and although I cannot approve of its theological implications, that it portrays, however faulty, a feeling of divine loneliness for man's fellowship that is real cannot be altogether ignored; not that God needs us but he does desire us. So strong is that desire that it verges, from a human perspective, on need; such a divine longing that he sacrificed his most valued intimate in order to gain sinful men and women. Although, I'm not sure I understand the question, I would venture to say that the God characterized in this poem is foreign to Biblical revelation. If anything, it reflects the poets assumption that God is as lonely as he is and characterizes, not God, but the poets own loneliness. Allow me to switch the poem around: I am Man - "Without one friend, Alone in my impurity Until I'm dead. Above me divine love Like eagles freely soar - But I am only Man - Nailed to the floor. Spring! Life is love! (Although this love is phoney!) Better is Human love Than God's who left me lonely." |
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59 | God being lonely? | Mal 4:2 | atdcross | 164041 | ||
My apologies. I had absentmindedly responded under your post. I meant to answer Greekbabe and was just adding a different perspective (not intended as a disagreement from what you stated) for Greek's consideration. Regarding the "verses", it was just my own spin on the poem being discussed. |
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60 | Praying for the 'World'. | Matt 5:44 | atdcross | 163692 | ||
Hi Doc, I agree the letter is to believers but that does not demand “any” be understood as confined to them or a group called “the chosen”. It is not denied that the letter is encouragement to its readers but it is still no reason to confine “any” to the aforementioned group. In my initial comment, I attempted to show that if “any” is understood as having reference to only “the chosen,” then they must not have been saved at the time of reading, or else why would God need to have patience with them and desire their repentance and salvation (cf. v.15) if they are already saved? The plain sense of “any” seems to be “any”, not a specific group at the exclusion of another. John Calvin on 2 Peter 3:9: Maybe “no mention of the purposes of God” was hidden from Calvin but it is not a mystery to me why some are saved and others not since the Bible makes it clear (e.g. John 3:36; Mark 16:16). Furthermore, the last sentence quoted seems contradictory since “stretch[ing] forth His hand” with the intention of laying hold of some and not all is in itself making a difference between one and another. John Gill: I cannot see any warrant for Gill’s exclusion of those outside the community of the Church (cf. John 3:16; 1 John 2:2; Ezekiel 18:23,32; 33:11; Jonah 4:11). John Hendryx: Regarding the “simplest…solution”, I am unaware of this verse being hard to understand in the first place; that “any” means all men was a given, at least, to me. Wilhelmus a Brekel: No argument except to say that prior to salvation, the elect are not "elect" but sinners and God is patient with all sinners (Ps 145:8-9a; Nahum 1:3a; Matthew 5:45). Alexander Nesbit: If he is correct, then it must be because the readers were not yet saved; if saved, no delay for Jesus’ return was required for their sake. Most likely, if they had it their way, they wanted Jesus to come while they were reading the letter (cf. v.15a)! With all due respect to John Owen, Thomas Peck, A. W. Pink, James H. Thornwell, Francis Turretin, as well as the persons cited above, the Bible shows me they are mistaken. Just because my argument is weak does not necessarily mean my conclusion is faulty and “unpopular” as it may be “among the learned of the church” is no reason why I should go against what God has revealed to my conscience and agree with them. Not being universalistic, I am not certain why they would find it so appealing. I know why I do. I pray my comments have not “sounded” rude and that you have not been personally offended by my admission of disagreement. |
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