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41 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 212276 | ||
Flyman, I wouldn't want anything you have posted deleted. I do think the questions you have asked are important. That's why I answered them? (post 212268). Did you not see it or read it? I'm listening to you flyman. I hope your listening as well. Not just to me, but to the others that have responded too. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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42 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 212268 | ||
Dear Flyman, can we stop this nonsense? You have to see that what you are proposing is ridiculous. Do you not? The context of the Scripture in the original post is God first and then everything else. I would not dare stand before our God and try to explain why I had forsaken my wife and family when He has given me the responsibility to care for them. Would you? (1Peter 3:7 / Ephesians 6:4) He's giving us the command to love Him first then love others. How is forsaking others loving them? God does not contradict Himself. If your theory, and that is simply what it is flyman, a theory, has Scripture contradicting Scripture, then your theory is wrong. It is not that difficult to see, should you desire to actually see. To answer your questions concerning my family: I love them dearly, would give my life for theirs, but they are second to God. They know that. I've told them that and I've taught them to do the same. God first. Your theory has God only and that my friend was never commanded by God. Matthew 22:36-40: 36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" 37 And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets." How do I do it you ask? By the grace of God. He actually does it, so don't give me any of His glory. Let go of your stubbornness and see how God desires you to live through a true evaluation of His Word. He demands that He is first in your life flyman, but Jesus didn't suffer and die to save Himself. He did that for us. You have to see the value He places on us in doing that. Do you really think he wants us to abandon everyone else? If you do, then please explain why you think He sent us a Savior to begin with. Then explain why even His angels minister to us. Why are we to forsake each other and everything when God Himself won't do it to us? Hebrews 13:5 Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." Stand in His grace, WOS |
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43 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 212264 | ||
flyman, With all due repsect... Are you trying to tell the forum that we will no longer hearing from you? I wish it wasn't so. Stand in his grace, WOS |
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44 | Can our souls feel their worth? | Matt 16:26 | Wild Olive Shoot | 212245 | ||
Allen, Thank you for the response. So would you agree referring to psalms 139:14 that we can still feel our worth outside of realizing God's grace in sending us a Savior? Maybe simply based on recognition of who God is and what He has done? And thanks again for the verse reference. That helps a bunch. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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45 | Got Patient, Need Rest TGIF/S? | Titus 3:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211349 | ||
Yes, shame on me for turning a blind eye to Hank's post regarding what this forum is about and focusing on your very personal un-Christian like attack on Hank. Your defense of a first century Jew??? Should I repost for you what Hank posted? There was nothing to defend especially concerning "Messiah Joshua". Wasn't even mentioned! I think your defense was more in line with a defense of your ego, for whatever reason you deemed necessary. Not really disciple-like is it? You need to re-read your own profile friend. You still didn't answer the question I asked. I don't suppose you will. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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46 | Got Patient, Need Rest TGIF/S? | Titus 3:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211344 | ||
You think this post imitates Christ? Shame on you Ovadyah! I believe an apology should be forthcoming. Does your response depict grace? WOS |
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47 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | Deut 24:1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211306 | ||
What was Jesus focusing on there? He seems to focus on the Moral law doesn’t he? And not only that but the perversions made to the law and the harshness of it. We’re funny creations aren’t we? God renders what is lawful and what is not and we take away and add to it as if we can make it better. We make it more difficult as if in doing so, we appear to be better for it because it is so hard. We want others to see us struggling so we outwardly appear to be more religious. What God has revealed in His Law Pete is perfection. If we could have lived up to it, we would have no need for a Savior. But concerning the Law, have you read what our Lord said: Matthew 22:36-40: “40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets." Jesus did not abolish the Law as you pointed out, that was neither His intentions nor God’s plan so far as I can tell. What Jesus did do in part was to point out that we couldn’t live up to them anyhow. Have you ever broken any one of God’s laws Pete? In Matthew chapter 5, Jesus really brings this to light. He gives warning that if you’re going to live to the letter of the law, you better understand them because they aren’t as easy as one reads them to be and you better uphold every one of them in order to be declared righteous. Every one of them Pete! But God is also a merciful God. Matthew 12:7 And if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless. Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. Roman 2:1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. The problem seems to be at least twofold. If we live to the Law, we better not only comprehend it as God intended, but live it completely as such. And we better not forget that understanding the Law brings with it justice, mercy and faithfulness and all of it is to be taken into consideration. We have not gone against God’s Law in Christ Pete. As he said, he didn’t come to abolish but to fulfill. That’s what he did, something none of us ever could. He fulfilled it and in order for us to reap the benefits of Him fulfilling the Law, our faith must be in Him not in the Law. Roman 2:1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. Romans 5:18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. As far as making it to heaven, that’s really an easy answer. By the grace of God Pete. No other way. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, Truth is sometime harsh Pete. But it will also set you free. John 8:31 – 36: “32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." What “Written” thinks, what any of us thinks really, isn’t the issue. Where does your heart stand before God? 1John 3:18-23: 20 for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything. 21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; Loving one another involves being honest with one another as well. Helping each other the best we can as we see we can. Bottom line for me, I don’t have all the answers you seek Pete, but you are looking in the place to find them, God’s Word. I urge you to keep reading, and don’t just read, study what Scripture is saying. Begin and end each time you read by asking God for guidance. We all transgress the Law. None of us can deny that. 1John 1:10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. If we live by the Law, we will surely die by it for it already condemns us. However, living by faith, by God’s grace… Romans 8:34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died--more than that, who was raised--who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. This got real long and I’m not sure I addressed everything but I’m sure the others have. Due to restrictions, I couldn’t post all of the Scripture but I think I referenced what I was trying to. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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48 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211153 | ||
I wish you well too pete. One last thought... As I was lying in bed trying to sleep last night... I was praying for you. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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49 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211117 | ||
Dear Pete, Of course we can spin and compare apples to oranges all day long and find numerous comparisons that we can stretch to make our point. Still at the end of the day, we haven’t really addressed the concern now have we? You’ve mentioned a few times now, “subscribing to my way of thinking”. Pete, if I’m pulling the info directly from Scripture, whose thinking is it, really. Be honest with yourself. My old or current habits have nothing to do with the point scripture makes my friend. I allow myself to divulge that info to help the conversation along, just so you know, I’m not perfect either. Speaking of not being perfect, you ask am I offering myself as a living sacrifice? Not even close to how I should be. But as time goes on I realize, through the conviction of the Spirit, something else, some new deplorable and repulsive thing about myself and then pray that God will vanquish it. But the first thing that happens in any of those cases is that I’m informed in some manner that it needs to be relinquished. We grow Pete. We continually grow in Christ. To become stagnant is as deadly as regressing, you see where I’m going with that. Pete, would it make a difference to you if I did sell everything I own? Because brother, if I KNEW it would have an effect on you, that it would secure you and bring you closer to God, I would more than likely consider it. But since I’m just a “nobody” and have no strength accept through Christ, what good would it do? I think it would simply leave me and my family out in the cold. Is that what needs to be done for you to see? Would you really wish that upon me? However, you have one who actually has already given up everything for you, even His life. And in Him there is great power and security. Now let’s be clear Pete, of what have I accused you? If I point out specific scripture that is relevant to the very question you yourself have posed and shows something other than the position you currently hold, who is actually accusing you of anything? If you think it is me, you render me far too much credit. I’m in this as you are. Scripture accuses me every time I study. It shows me that I can’t live for the Law. I’m put on trial, convicted and sentenced to death every time. However, we have a great advocate in Jesus who sees to it that the pardon we truly don’t deserve is granted. All you have to do is put your faith and trust in Him. Pete, none of us are perfect. We all need the grace of God. I’ll end participation to this thread at your wish and offer you the last word if you desire. Please remember, I’m not accusing you of anything and my concern is not the strong drink or the feeling it brings or even why you think it is appropriate. The only thing I’ve tried to point out is why? Why do you do it? For your own self satisfaction or for the glory of God and that you study the subject in depth through the Word of God. God’s grace is a wonderful thing Pete, and I pray this day, you find yourself standing in it. WOS |
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50 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211105 | ||
Dear Written, Your comparison is rather dim. I have yet to see roller coasters and merry-go-rounds ruin someone’s life and hurt those around them. Alcohol on the other hand… Don’t misunderstand, I have enjoyed adult beverages over the years and to my shame, have abused them at times. I will also venture to say, that if someone needs alcohol or any other substance to enhance a marriage or to make times more memorable, it is not a strong marriage to begin with. My wife and I have been joined nearly 20 years now and I can tell you, every good and truly happy memory we have created over the years is substance free. Thank God he allows us to enjoy each other without any sort of cloak. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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51 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211104 | ||
Dear Pete, Keep in mind my friend that God’s wisdom is not confined to the Old Testament. If you think that, you miss Him revealing His Son to us and the salvation He offers. God’s wisdom extends into the New Testament as well and neither contradicts the other rather the opposite, complete harmony. You have to take everything you study in context Pete. My caution to you is not the “strong drink” you drink, nor the feelings you say it causes you have, I’ve been down that path and know what you are feeling. My contention is this, does what you do glorify God when you are also instructed through His Word to offer yourself as a living sacrifice? (Romans 12:1) Losing the slightest bit of your faculties, which is exactly what your buzz is, is also not upholding Ephesians 5:18. The point of 1 Corinthians 6:12 that I was hoping to convey is this: We have freedom in Christ. That which once may have or possibly could enslave us has been defeated. In Christ, we have freedom and liberty and we risk throwing that away sometimes because we look to the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law through grace. And we try to rationalize what we do to appease our own conscience. I’m not accusing you of doing that, but I can’t help but wonder since you asked the question to begin with, that you yourself have doubts. If that is the case my friend, abstaining is a good thing and you questioning it is a very good thing. If you are feeling uneasy in your defense in any way, maybe that is the Spirit nudging you. We risk becoming enslaved when we overindulge or do things in excess. And Pete, it really is excess when you feel that buzz. “for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.” (2 Peter 2:19) I’m not judging you either friend. But we have an obligation to speak the truth in love. Please continue to look into this subject. Meditate on all God’s Word has to say and most of all pray for an answer and guidance to again, do what we are meant to do in all we do, bring glory to God. Yes, we are not to change what God commands, but we need be careful not to ignore what God in His wisdom has revealed to us throughout scripture, even to the point it makes us feel uneasy. We can’t pick and choose that which supports a particular position of ours and disregard that which doesn’t. It’s all God’s Word friend and every bit of it is to be taken into consideration. I’m praying for Pete, for you to come to the correct conclusion in a manner pleasing to God. And I’m sure others on this forum are doing the same. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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52 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | Wild Olive Shoot | 211053 | ||
Dear petedavis6263, Welcome and I do hope you continue your study. Please keep in mind as you do that your chief and highest purpose is to glorify God and to fully enjoy Him forever. 1Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. All we do! Your reference to enjoying a buzz a couple time a week… would you be able to show, in light of Scripture, that you are glorifying God in doing so? Honestly! Without rationalizing or compromising what God has said? 1Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. “There is a liberty wherewith Christ has made us free, in which we must stand fast. But surely he would never carry this liberty so far as to put himself into the power of any bodily appetite. Though all meats were supposed lawful, he would not become a glutton nor a drunkard. And much less would he abuse the maxim of lawful liberty to countenance the sin of fornication, which, though it might be allowed by the Corinthian laws, was a trespass upon the law of nature, and utterly unbecoming a Christian. He would not abuse this maxim about eating and drinking to encourage any intemperance, nor indulge a carnal appetite: “Though meats are for the belly and the belly for meats (1Co_6:13), though the belly was made to receive food, and food was originally ordained to fill the belly, yet if it be not convenient for me, and much more if it be inconvenient, and likely to enslave me, if I am in danger of being subjected to my belly and appetite, I will abstain.” – Matthew Henry Stand in His grace WOS |
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53 | Leviticus16:8,10,20-22 | Leviticus | Wild Olive Shoot | 210975 | ||
Hey Brad, Just looking into this a little, not spending very much time at all, but I was curious as it seems you were too as to how the question was originally asked. Here is some info. “Some Jewish interpreters regard it as the name of a place some 12 miles east of Jerusalem, in the wilderness. Others take it to be the name of an evil spirit, or even of Satan. But when we remember that the two goats together form a type of Christ, on whom the Lord “laid the iniquity of us all,” and examine into the root meaning of this word (viz., “separation”), the interpretation of those who regard the one goat as representing the atonement made, and the other, that “for Azazel,” as representing the effect of the great work of atonement (viz., the complete removal of sin), is certainly to be preferred. The one goat which was “for Jehovah” was offered as a sin-offering, by which atonement was made. But the sins must also be visibly banished, and therefore they were symbolically laid by confession on the other goat, which was then “sent away for Azazel” into the wilderness.” – Easton’s Bible Dictionary “Azazel is the pre-Mosaic name of an evil personal being placed in opposition to Yahweh. Each goat, having been presented to Yahweh before the lots were cast, stood in a sacrificial relation to Him. “… “By this exppressive outward sign the sins were sent back to the author of sin himself, “the entirely separate one,” who was banished from the realm of grace.” – Albert Barnes “scape goat, heb, Azazel, that is, the goat gone away The hebrew has been supposed by some to be the name of a place, either a mountain or cliff, to which the goat was led. but no place of that name has ever been pointed out, except a mountain near Sinai, which was too distant for the goat to be conducted there from Jerusalem. Other learned men think it was the name of the devil, who was worshipped by the heathen in the form of a goat. But Bp. Patrick justly objects to this opinion for it is difficult to conceive, that when the other goat was offered to God, this should be sent among demons. The more probable opinion seems to be, that it was name given to the goat itself, on account of his being let go; from aiz, and goat, and azal, to depart…” – The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge I personally prefer Jeff’s take on it in post 210966. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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54 | The Blind leading the blind | Mark 8:18 | Wild Olive Shoot | 210807 | ||
Dave / Navynerd, Our you having a conversation with yourself? Very confusing. Are you interested in an answer or do you already have one? :) WOS |
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55 | The Blind leading the blind | Mark 8:18 | Wild Olive Shoot | 210802 | ||
Dear Dave, It was how it was intended, not wrong in and of itself. There is nothing wrong with washing your hands before you eat. We all know the benefits of doing so, from nothing else, a health standpoint. But Jesus here focused on why the Pharisee’s pointed this out to begin with and contemptuously at that. You understand that hand washing was not a Law of God, but of the elders? The Pharisee were transgressing the Law of God by their tradition by not honoring their parents but making no mention of it yet had the gull to accuse the disciples of breaking a law, of man, because of their unwashed hands and eating common bread. Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? “Those who charge guilt upon others for transgressing the commandments of men, many times bring greater guilt upon themselves, by transgressing the law of God against rash judging.” – Matthew Henry Stand in His grace, WOS |
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56 | The Blind leading the blind | Mark 8:18 | Wild Olive Shoot | 210789 | ||
Dear Dave, Can I ask you to follow up on your statements? What is it you believe about the washing of hands? Secondly, can you elaborate on your statement that the death penalty has been abandoned? I do not want to debate either one, just trying to understand your point of view regarding Scripture and these statements. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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57 | Why did Moses' send his wife to Midian | Ex 4:25 | Wild Olive Shoot | 210788 | ||
Keliy, You’re in good company with your thoughts on this. But it is speculation. Maybe to help in the future, you could emphasize that what you have posted is speculative. There is a reason the scripture is there, sometimes we just don’t know the answer in full because it is not revealed to us. But it does appear that a good and trusted commentator thought along the same lines as what you have posted. Make sure you see note 3 below. “The release of Moses thereupon: So he let him go; the distemper went off, the destroying angel withdrew, and all was well: only Zipporah cannot forget the fright she was in, but will unreasonably call Moses a bloody husband, because he obliged her to circumcise the child; and, upon this occasion (it is probable), he sent them back to his father-in-law, that they might not create him any further uneasiness. Note, (1.) When we return to God in a way of duty he will return to us in a way of mercy; take away the cause, and the effect will cease. (2.) We must resolve to bear it patiently, if our zeal for God and his institutions be misinterpreted and discouraged by some that should understand themselves, and us, and their duty, better, as David's zeal was misinterpreted by Michal; but if this be to be vile, if this be to be bloody, we must be yet more so. (3.) When we have any special service to do for God we should remove as far from us as we can that which is likely to be our hindrance. Let the dead bury their dead, but follow thou me.” – Matthew Henry Stand in His grace, WOS |
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58 | was the ten commandments done away with | Matt 22:40 | Wild Olive Shoot | 210055 | ||
Dear Written, The Lord's Day was observed long before Constantine. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Acts 2:46-47 Stand in His grace, WOS |
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59 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209716 | ||
Dear lookn, Since you have looked into the info provided it would be nice if you would then answer the many questions and concerns that have been raised. I wish you would share your knowledge regarding the concerns in stead of ignoring or dodging the questions and concerns that were raised. You’ve taken up a very strong defensive posture but have offered nothing in defense of your position other than claiming we shouldn’t be criticizing what we don’t know. So, I’m willing to do this for you lookn… You answer the concerns raised by the good people of the forum regarding Finney’s theology, specifically those questioning his denial of justification by faith and original sin, and I’ll take time to read up on Finney. Would that help? Will you then take what you are defending and hold it up to Scripture to see if it stands? If you are not willing to do that, then we have reached an impasse and I suggest we just simply let the subject silently fade into the archives of the forum. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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60 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209643 | ||
Simply... Because of the fine people that have been telling you otherwise. I've studied with some of these folks for a couple of years now. They are intelligently thorough and very sound in doctrine. They have a love of God's word that seems to be infrequent these days. I know you don't know them as well as I do, but if you did, you would seriously consider looking into the information they have provided. They are truly trying to help. It is to your benefit to take some of the things that have been pointed out and hold them against scripture. 2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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