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41 | Weekly Communion? | 1 Cor 11:25 | Tim Sheasby | 22818 | ||
Amen (1 Cor 11) Tim |
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42 | Who is the antichrist? | 1 John 2:18 | Tim Sheasby | 22701 | ||
Get well soon! God bless you Tim Sheasby |
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43 | Order of events at the 2nd Coming? | 1 Thess 4:17 | Tim Sheasby | 22699 | ||
The problem arises when we believe our opinion to be right. I recently preached to a small house church that meets near my home. The point of that lesson is that no-one has a corner on truth. We all strive for it but I doubt there is a single person who has an absolute and perfect understanding of all scripture. I have to admit that I often come across overly dogmatic and have to fight to keep my own mind open. Viewpoints can change and indeed should change since that is evidence of growth. Not "blown about by every wind of doctrine" but clear headed, prayer guided study of the word and a "sincere love of the truth". I do not know all truth, neither does my father or mother, or Tim Moran, or Nolan, or anyone else (hope you don't mind me using your names). I hope that this forum will help us all honestly seek the truth. Defend your position but be ready to withdraw and change sides if your position becomes indefencible. Tim |
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44 | When will the rapture occur???? | 1 Cor 15:52 | Tim Sheasby | 22690 | ||
Part 2: Now Jesus tells them some actual signs as a warning to his disciples. Matt 24:15 "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe him. "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. "Behold, I have told you in advance. "So if they say to you, 'Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, or, 'Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them. "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. "Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather. "But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. "Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. This is where I differ from many others. I believe that this speaks explicity and graphically about the destruction of Jerusalem, and more specifically the Temple, in AD 70. This passage is pure apocalyptic literature and should be interpreted in that light. Jesus warns the people of Judea to get out of town when they see the abomination of desolation. He tells of the "tribulation" that would follow and this is clearly reported in the secular history of the day (Josephus, Tacitus etc.). At the same time many would now use this opportunity to try to claim to be the Christ or to have seen the Christ -- and Christians are warned not to believe them. Then in verse 27 Jesus interjects "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be" just to let them know that there will be no mistake when he actually comes. He continues in verses 28-33 with the horror of that event -- this is the depression that sets in after the Jews realise their entire religion is destroyed. No longer can they have a priesthood for no longer can they prove their genealogy. This is their final and total rejection by God. Verse 34 concludes this section -- the answer to the first question "when will the temple be destroyed?" This was indeed fulfilled in the lifetime of many who were there when Jesus spoke. Verses 35 to 51 answer the second question "What will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age. And what He says there is "no one knows." "be prepared, it could come at any time!" Hope that was fairly cogent. It is what makes sense to me and was arrived at from some personal study very recently. Have not actually read very much by anyone else on this passage. In the Love of Christ Tim |
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45 | When will the rapture occur???? | 1 Cor 15:52 | Tim Sheasby | 22689 | ||
Part 1: There were people then who also mis-understood what Jesus was saying. However I believe Jesus was talking about the people before him that day. Let me give my brief exegesis of Matthew 24. To start with Jesus knows his time has nearly come. Perhaps that is why the disciples try to cheer him up or distract him by showing him how beautiful the temple is and he tells them the temple will be destroyed (AD 70) The disciples now come to him for more information and ask 2 questions. 1. "When will these things happen?" 2. "What will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" v.3. The twofold question was probably seen as one by the disciples because for them, as Jews, the destruction of the Temple would be the end of the world! Jesus, however, treats it as two separate questions. Before he answers them, though, he gives them a warning. Matt 24:4-14 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many. "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come. Please note -- Jesus does not say that these are the signs of the times but that PEOPLE will SAY that these are signs. And this leads to the tribulation. When Jesus says "the end will come" he is talking about the end of Israel (physical) as God's chosen people. |
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46 | did the wine from the water make you dr | Bible general Archive 1 | Tim Sheasby | 22679 | ||
I stand corrected on the number of word translated "wine". However, the 3 principal words that concern us in the Old Testament are yayin (03196) wine, tiyrowsh (08492) sweet wine, and shekar (07941) strong drink. According to Rabbinic tradition (Talmud and Mishna) the product of the grape vine was called shekar from pressing until it was 40 days old (and already intoxicating). From 40 days old untill it was 3 years old it was yayin (and now totally intoxicating) and after this it was called shekar. There are places where the context does not indicate the intoxicating value of these beverages but I do not know of any example where they are CLEARLY not alcoholic. I do not know where you found the information that says they used wine skins to slow fermentation. Please let me know your source as this is something I would like to follow up myself. In the New testament there are 2 words, Oinos and Gleukos, that relate to wine. The other 2 words are derivatives of oinos. At the time of Pentecost in Acts there was no way they could have HAD freshly squeezed juice. By then the 'gleukos' must have been at least partially fermented. Certainly the 2 derived words, paroinos and oinophlugia seem to refer to a fermented wine, possibly very strongly fermented. Which brings us back to 'oinos'. In fact, as you mention, this could refer to anything from freshly squezed grape juice to fermented wine. It seems the ancients did not understand the mechanics of fermentation (that yeast caused it to take place) but they certainly knew that something changed that fresh juice into wine. If wine is not always alcoholic (though in the case of the Hebrew word 'Yayin' this cannot be supported) neither is it always NOT alcoholic. The wine Jesus made at Cana was not only alcoholic wine, but the best alcoholic wine ever. The master of ceremonies testifies to this. I am writing from work so some of my material is not at hand and my memory is not always perfect. I will try to remember to bring in better documentation and update this posting tomorrow. Tim Sheaby |
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47 | why is baptism important | 2 Cor 5:17 | Tim Sheasby | 22674 | ||
Don't confuse "WORKS OF THE LAW" with "WORKS". The first relates to observance of Old Testament law, the second relates to works of righteousness. But that is by the way. The point I was making is that we are not justified by FAITH ALONE. Tim |
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48 | why is baptism important | 2 Cor 5:17 | Tim Sheasby | 22673 | ||
I agree that they do not contradict. The problem is that we are trying to separate elements that are inextricably bound to each other. James does not say we are saved by works, just that faith without works is dead. Faith alone is not true faith, if you will. As I posted in a reply to Nolan this discussion is perhaps getting tired. My final argument -- Take it or leave it -- is this. 1. To be saved you must be "in Christ" 2 Cor 5:17. John 14:6 "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.'" Only Christ can save and to take advantage of that salvation you have to be "in Him". 2. -- Rom 6:1-11 "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been BAPTIZED into Christ Jesus have been BAPTIZED into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through BAPTISM into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus." (NASB emphasis mine). This very clearly shows a process. a. you die to sin (Believe and Repent) b. you are burried with Christ in BAPTISM (Immersion in water) Note: Paul says that we are baptized INTO Christ (v. 3) so that is how we get in! c. you THEN rise (from the water) to live in newness of life. 3. Since it is in Christ that we find salvation, and since it is BAPTISM that puts us into Christ, we have to conclude that BAPTISM is an essential element of SALVATION. This in no way denies that we are saved by faith since it is our faith that leads us to the waters of baptism. God said it I believe it That settles it I rest my case In Christ Tim |
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49 | did the wine from the water make you dr | Bible general Archive 1 | Tim Sheasby | 22668 | ||
I have no problem with your decision. I drink rarely and when I do I seldom drink more than 1 glass of wine or one other alcoholic beverage. I do find it relaxing but hate any feeling that I am loosing control so I am an extremely cautious drinker. I have never been drunk. I must say that I can sense when I am reaching my limit and I either stop totally or slow down considerably. Abstinence is a personal choice that any Christian is free to make. Tim Sheasby |
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50 | When will the rapture occur???? | 1 Cor 15:52 | Tim Sheasby | 22665 | ||
Actually, this is something that is not a big problem for me. If you are a Christian it does not matter whether you die first of if the Lord comes again first. For you the result is the same - you go to your eternal reward. If you are not a Christian then you have a big problem. I knew 2 old American missionaries who worked together in the church. The one was a premillenialist the other not. Yet they did not let this interfere with what was most important to them -- preaching the gospel of Christ. Tim |
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51 | Receive Spirit with salvation or later? | Acts 2:38 | Tim Sheasby | 22663 | ||
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52 | unaffordable annulllment-How to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Tim Sheasby | 22662 | ||
I agree that divorce is a sin. My first wife committed adultery and decided she wanted to live with another man, who himself was also married. I was left with no option in that situation but to divorce her for she certainly would have divorced me (she told me so). But, I still believe that divorce is a terrible thing. I never want to have to go through that again in my entire life. God hates divorce (as I mentioned in my previous posting) Mal 2:16. However, Christians do sin. And sometimes that sin is the sin of divorce. Do I like that? No. Would I try and work with people to prevent that? Most certainly. Yet, it happens. What then are we to do if a Christian has sinned and got a divorce? Matt 5:32 "but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery." We did an exegesis of this passage in our exegesis group and found an interesting thing. There is an alternative translation which goes like this "everyone who divorces his wife . . . causes her to be adulterated." She does not become GUILTY of adultery but the INNOCENT PARTY of adultery if you will. What do we do with the brother or sister who has sinned by divorcing for any reason other than adultery? We ask him to repent of that sin. Do we forbid him from re-marrying? I know preachers who would indeed do this but on what scriptural authority I do not know. One preacher I know asked a member to divorce his new wife and re-marry his old one because their divorce had been unscriptural. This flies in the face of biblical example. Deuteronomy 24:3-4 says that if a man has divorced his wife he CANNOT ever re-marry her "for that is an abomination before the LORD" Acknowledge the sin but trust in the grace of God to forgive. In Christian Love Tim |
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53 | did the wine from the water make you dr | Bible general Archive 1 | Tim Sheasby | 22661 | ||
I have seen everything you have seen. My wife's parents are alcoholics (drunkards according to scripture) and she grew up under horrific conditions. The problem is not alcohol however, it is self-control. Let us teach our brothers and sisters, our children, how to handle alcohol responsibly as a Christian should before binding on them a man made law "thou shalt not drink alcohol." Tim |
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54 | did the wine from the water make you dr | Bible general Archive 1 | Tim Sheasby | 22660 | ||
1. Not every non-Christian I know considers drinking alcohol a sin. Paul does say, however, that if eating or drinking is going to be a problem then he will not do it (Romans 14:21). 2. The Bible clearly condemns and warns against drunkenness. If people drank alcohol according to biblical principles ther would not be any alcoholics. The man who first defined alcoholism as a disease said that it took years of abuse to produce an alcoholic. Never just one drink. In our congregation we have a man who is a "recovering alcoholic". He drinks alcoholic wine every week at the Lord's Table yet this does not send him off on another alcoholic binge. According to my biblical understanding alcoholism is a SIN and not a DISEASE. 3. If you have never drunk alcohol you may not understand this but I know my limit when drinking alcohol. I NEVER go beyond this limit and get drunk. One of my co-workers, not a Christian, commented to another of my coleagues "Tim drinks the way we all SHOULD drink". My example stands sound - an example of self control. Remember even Jesus was accused of drunkenness. He spoke of himself in Matt 11:18-19 "For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon!' The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds." Did Jesus drink Alcohol? Yes. Did he get drunk? I don't believe so but still people knew that he drank alcoholic wine. 4. I agree. I don't want to be associated with something connected with death or which breaks up homes. However, it is not the wine that does this but the ABUSE of wine. Along with the verses in scripture that speak of the evils of wine there are also verses that speak of the BLESSINGS of wine. For example a) in the OT Law the people were commanded to give offerings of wine (Lev 23:13; Num 15:5ff et al) which were a sweet aroma to the Lord. b) Is 25:6 The LORD of hosts will prepare a lavish banquet for all peoples on this mountain; A banquet of aged wine, choice pieces with marrow, And refined, aged wine. Is 55:1 "Ho! Every one who thirsts, come to the waters; And you who have no money come, buy and eat. Come, buy wine and milk Without money and without cost." Joel 2:24 The threshing floors will be full of grain, And the vats will overflow with the new wine and oil." Joel 3:18 "And in that day The mountains will drip with sweet wine, And the hills will flow with milk, And all the brooks of Judah will flow with water; And a spring will go out from the house of the LORD To water the valley of Shittim.:" 5. Self control. Alcohol does not cause one to loose control -- ABUSE of alcohol does. I would be the first to condemn drunkenness. It is indeed an ugly and embarassing thing. There are times when I will not drink because of a weaker brother or sister but that does not mean I should never again drink what is a blessing from God. There is a danger of becoming Pharisaic about this. Jesus condemned the Phaarisees for binding their traditions on the people. Yet many of these traditions came about with the best intentions in the world. God drew a parameter -- in this case "don't get drunk". In order to protect ourselves we drew a smaller parameter -- "don't even touch the stuff". If that is what you choose to do then certainly that is your right but you cannot condemn someone for not having the same thinking. If it were a sin to drink alcohol then Jesus was a sinner -- an we know he was not. It is clearly a sin to get drunk -- that is what you must not do! In Christ The other Tim Tim Sheasby |
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55 | did the wine from the water make you dr | Bible general Archive 1 | Tim Sheasby | 22657 | ||
In answer: 1. There are 3 words used in the OT for wine. Not a single one can be shown to imply non alcoholic grape juice. 2. The whole point of the parable of the wine skins is that in the early stages of fermentation considerably more gas is produced which would burst old, inflexible, skins. This would of course result in the skin being ruined and the wine being spilt and therefore ruined. 3. I live in Cape Town in the heart of the wine producing area of South Africa. A friend of mine consulted a local winemaker concerning the potency of New Testament wine. The winemaker theorised that the wine then may in fact have been considerably stronger than many wines of today. His theory is that the water in the wine might transpire through the skin leaving a more potent, thick, almost syrupy wine. That is theory but the same friend consulted a Rabbi at one of the Universities in Israel (I can get the names and addresses if you want) who believed that New Testament wines may have been as strong as 17 or 18 percent As you point out, those drinks do not compare with the distilates of today but they certainly do compare with the wines produced today. It was as strong as or stronger than todays naturally fermented wines. |
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56 | did the wine from the water make you dr | Bible general Archive 1 | Tim Sheasby | 22656 | ||
Amen, amen and amen! Tim |
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57 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | Rom 6:3 | Tim Sheasby | 22654 | ||
As I posted in a reply to Nolan just minutes ago and as you have pointed out in one of your replies to one of my other postings (Whew!) this discussion is perhaps getting tired. My final argument -- Take it or leave it -- is this. 1. To be saved you must be "in Christ" 2 Cor 5:17. John 14:6 "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.'" Only Christ can save and to take advantage of that salvation you have to be "in Him". 2. -- Rom 6:1-11 "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus." This very clearly shows a process. a. you die to sin b. you are burried with Christ in BAPTISM c. you THEN rise to live in newness of life Paul says that we are baptized INTO Christ (v. 3) 3. Since it is in Christ that we find salvation, and since it is BAPTISM that puts us into Christ, we have to conclude that BAPTISM is an essential element of SALVATION. This in no way denies that we are saved by faith since it is our faith that leads us to the waters of baptism. God said it I believe it That settles it I rest my case In Christ Tim |
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58 | why is baptism important | 2 Cor 5:17 | Tim Sheasby | 22646 | ||
No it is not. Now you are adding ANOTHER baptism. This brings the count up to 2 which does not equal 1. At least not in any school I ever attended. Tim |
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59 | why is baptism important | 2 Cor 5:17 | Tim Sheasby | 22645 | ||
Amen -- of water(baptism) and the Spirit. I say this because the use of the conjunction in this passage makes these two things refer to the same thing. In Christ Tim |
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60 | why is baptism important | 2 Cor 5:17 | Tim Sheasby | 22644 | ||
Going to have to end this discussion. You want baptism to be water baptism in one place and "metaphorical" in another. Sorry that is inconsistent with good biblical interpretation. To me scripture is plain and does not contradict itself. You and your reformist friends (since salvation by faith alone is a reformist doctrine) may never change your minds but still you insist on twisting the scripture to say baptism is not an essential element in conversion. In Christ Tim |
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