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41 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | TheCurtMan | 94278 | ||
I did not say that good intension will superceed the laws of God but the chances that given to person to repent I did not make a statement or an accusation, I simply asked a question, which was, “My question to you is that do you think that good intentions should supercede the laws of God?” My second question to you is, “Can I get an answer to my previous question?” Fact of the matter is that God’s word was in place well before Uzzah touched the Ark. When Uzzah did touch the Ark, that brings me back to my original question. Unfortunately he did not have a chance to repent, I John 1:9. Some consequences to actions are immediate. This is one of those examples. And as far as Adam and Eve is concerned, THEY DID DIE IMMEDIATELY. Not physically, but spiritually. Look at Gen. 3:8. They were spiritually separated from God. That perfect relationship they had with God was broken. According to what God said in 2:8, “…for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Death did take place in that day. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, if you have a relationship with the Him. I personally would rather be physically dead and rejoicing than spiritually dead and miserable. The CurtMan |
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42 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | TheCurtMan | 94006 | ||
The temperment of your post seems to be of hostility. Do I come across the same way to you?? You asked me if I followed sound doctrine. Personally I think that's a bad question because of course I'm going to say, "Yes". However; if someone was to point out biblically where something that I believe in was a little off base, I'll listen to what they have to say, pray and meditate on it. God will eventually see that I get the right answer. Do you really believe that no one has taken the time to approach Hinn on his doctrine?? It's to my understanding that he has been approached on several occasions. But much like you said, the man isn't listening. You're quick to rush to the defense of Hinn, but what about the people that his doctrine has affected?? Hinn, was at one time a believer of the Faith Doctrine. Rather he still believe in that doctrine today, I can not say. Anyway, as you probably know, this doctrine taught that sick people was sick because they did not have the faith to be made well. Hinn was also a believer of the Name it and Claim it Doctrine. This doctrine taught that you can speak things into exsistance It really didn't matter if it was the Will of the Lord or not I'm aware of a true story where a follower of a Faith Teacher was diagnosed with an illness. The cure exsist, the treatment was simple. This guy refuse to claim it. As a matter of fact, he had all the faith in the world, how could he be sick. He ended up dying. He was the head of his household, left behind a wife and some children. His wife who was also a believer, changed her belief, and shared her story with many. You rush to the defense of Hinn, but look at the damage that his belief is doing to people. I don't hear you standing up for them. And just for the record, I'm not attacking Hinn, nor his doctrine, at present I'm just stating the simple truth. You also stated to show you where you were wrong in touching God's anointed, would if be fair to assume that you did not read the post sent to you by the Radioman?? This is part of what he had posted, I suggest that you read the entire thing: 'Advocates [of authoritarian rule or unconditional authority for certain preachers and evangelists] assume that Scripture supports their view. Their key biblical proof text is Psalm 105:15: "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm" (KJV). But a close examination of this passage reveals that it has nothing to do with challenging the teachings of church leaders. 'It first needs to be noted that the Old Testament phrase "the Lord's anointed" is typically used to refer to the kings of Israel (1 Sam. 12:3, 5; 24:6, 10; 26:9, 11, 16, 23; 2 Sam. 1:14, 16; 19:21; Ps. 20:6; Lam. 4:20), at times specifically to the royal line de-scended from David (Pss. 2:2; 18:50; 89:38, 51), and not to prophets and teachers. While the text does also mention prophets, in the context of Psalm 105 the reference is undoubtedly to the patriarchs in general (vv. 8-15; cf. 1 Chron. 16:15-22), and to Abraham (whom God called a prophet) in particular (Gen. 20:7). It is therefore debatable whether this passage can be applied to select leaders within the body of Christ. 'Even if the text can be applied to certain church leaders today, in the context of this passage the words "touch" and "do harm" have to do with inflicting physical harm upon someone. Psalm 105:15 is therefore wholly irrelevant to the issue of questioning the teachings of any of God's "anointed." The CurtMan |
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43 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | TheCurtMan | 94002 | ||
If your mother went to a Benny Hinn crusade and was healed of cancer and her other medical problems, then the praise should go God. Actually that's the first documented success story I've ever heard come through that ministry. I mean I've seen the man on T.V., and I've heard of some of the healing stories, but upon further investigation, to my knowledge, none of the healings could show a before and after authentic medical documented healing of an illness. But if you say that your mother was healed of cancer, not that the cancer is in remission, but actually healed of it, then I will take your word for it. How is she doing these days anyway?? Last night I took the opportunity to look up the scripture verse that you quoted, Matt. 7:22. I noticed two very interesting points. The first one is in v. 15. Jesus was instructing the people to beware of false prophets. False prophets were as common in His day the same way that false teachers are common today. They both have the tendicy to take the word of God out of it's original context and twist it to imply something that it really doesn't mean. They both teach a false doctrine. I guess my first question would be, should we not also beware of false teachers and false doctrines today the same the people was instructed to beware of false prophets and false doctrines yesterday?? And if we fail to do this, are we not in violation of sound doctrine?? According to the information posted by the Radioman, you and I both were misinterpreting ‘Touching God's Anointed'. Since it doesn't appear to mean what we thought it meant, then what other reasons do you have for following Benny Hinn?? The second thing that I noticed was in v.22. "Did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?" Now this one I literally lost sleep over. Where did these people get the authority to cast out demons? I don't think that it came from God because in v.23 Jesus said, "I never knew you". The only other reasonable place would be the adversary. But that one caused a problem to. In Matt. 12:22-26 Jesus cast out a demon. The Pharisees accused Him of doing this through the devil. Jesus' answer indicated that the devil can not cast out demons. So where did the people get the authority to cast out demons. Eventually I had to settle for the bottom line. It doesn't matter where they got their authority from. The bottom line is that they were truly deceived into thinking that what they were doing, they were doing for our Lord and Savior, and in actuality they were not. Jesus said, "I never knew you, depart from me..." I think this is one of the reasons why we should be careful of who we follow. There are going to be many that says, "Lord, Lord", and they might even have a large congregation themselves, but in the end, they will not make it into the Kingdom of Heaven. The CurtMan |
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44 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | TheCurtMan | 93932 | ||
Hey Radioman, Thanks for the info. I learned something else. The CurtMan |
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45 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | TheCurtMan | 93873 | ||
Somewhere I missed the boat on your post. You say that Benny Hinn is a very proud man, but pride is one of the seven deadly sins, that is detestable unto the Lord, Proverbs 6:16-19. You say that he seems unteachable, so much for humility. I Perter 5:5 You say that you will go against his false doctrines, and you ask where to draw the line and say this guy has notheing to teach you?? Gal. 1:6-9 I know that you’re not going to like this one, but this man is not of God. He may have started out being for God at one time or another, but at present he is misleading a great many, and you’re one of them. God do not appreciate pride, the twisting of His word, and the misleading of His children. Rather you can accept the truth in love or not, you need to find yourself another spiritual example to follow. I believe that scripture says “follow me as I follow the Lord” If Benny Hinn was following the Lord, I believe that he should make a public apology for the doctrine that he teaches, and if nothing else, pull his books of the shelves so they can not mislead anyone else. And that’s just for starters. Oh, and one other point. It’s to my understanding that AIDS have a 100 percent fatality rate. How can this be if Benny Hinn has the power of healing?? The CurtMan |
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46 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93729 | ||
Do I have any ideas?? Do a river have water?? A friendly discussion on spiritual matters where we can agree to disagree and share one another’s perspective on a matter is alright by me. But if it’s answers that you’re looking for, you could find a better resource than the CurtMan. Here’s my belief on the issue: Over in Matt. 19:3-9, the Pharisees were questioning Jesus on marriage. They wanted to know why Moses allowed them to divorce their wives if divorce was not origingally in God’s plans. In verse 8 Jesus answered and said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it has not been this way.” For a lack of a better way to say what I want to say, I’ll put it this way. I believe that God has two wills. An Original Will, like how things were suppose to go from the beginning, and a Permissive Will, things He allow because of circumstances, like the hardness of our heart. Originally speaking, I do not believe that divorce was part of God plans. But because of our Freedom of Choice, because of our ability to make bad decisions, God allow certain things to happen for whatever the reason, and has already planned for them. I personally do not believe that God’s original plan was for Lucifer to do the things that he did. I believe that God had to have a plan in place for when Lucifer did do what he did. Careful planning is one of the many lessons that can be found in scripture. Take Pharaoh for example. That was planned, but was it part of God’s Origingal Will, or Permissive Will?? I personally believe that Pharaoh was part of God’s Permissive Will simply based on the fact that if you read that story carefully, you’ll see that Pharaoh played a part in hardening his own heart. God also played a part in hardening Pharaoh’s heart because His plan was to make a cold example out of the man, and He did just that. Neither do I believe that God hardening Pharaoh’s heart was a voilation of Pharaoh’s Freedom of Choice. He could’ve repented at anytime, God just knew that he wouldn’t. So while regaining His children from Egypt, God showed His children a very important lesson, ‘THERE IS NO OTHER GOD BESIDE ME’. All Pharaoh had to do was open his ears and listen to his counselors who tried to tell him that his arms was too short to box with the God of Moses. Figurtively speaking that is. Let me ask you something, if God, ‘raised up Pharaoh’ to be the way that he was and violated his freedom of choice, then according with all that scripture has to say or salvation; obedience; and rebellion, it would seem that Pharaoh’s punishment was unjust. “He couldn’t help it, God made him do it.” Also, if all this is true, then how do you fit James 1:13-16 into this idea?? |
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47 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93720 | ||
When you're right, you're right. The class on snakeology I never took seriously, as a matter of fact, I never took it at all. I didn't know that Asp and Cobras where of the same family. Thanks for the enlightenment. | ||||||
48 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | TheCurtMan | 93719 | ||
Your question to me is, where was justice. I can not answer that question any better than Gracefull did in her post. My question to you is that do you think that good intentions should superceed the laws of God? | ||||||
49 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | TheCurtMan | 93718 | ||
Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? I Cor. 5:6. This I know. What I ment was that if you took each and every detail of their surmon, examined it closely under what scripture actully says. The over all majority of what they say within that surmon actually checks out. It's just that one little lie, that one or two misconception that tends to through everything off. May I suggest a book called Christianity in Crisis by Hank Hanagraff. He explains it alot better than I ever could. I know a mature Christian woman who liked listening to Hinn. We got into a discussion about his doctrine. She knew that not everything that he taught on was biblical. Her stance was on discernment. Her question to me was if a Christian has discernment should the baby be thrown out with the bath water simply because the water was dirty. I pose the same question to you. My answer, after consideration, was, "YES". The CurtMan |
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50 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | TheCurtMan | 93603 | ||
Just for the record; If you're going to mention Copland by name, then it would also be fair to mention Hagaan and Hinn. They travel in the same circle and preach the same doctrine. Yes, they are false teachers and teach a false doctrine. Unfortunately not every detail of their doctrine is false. The CurtMan |
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51 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93601 | ||
If you would like to discuss the 9th chapter of Romans, I have no problem with that. But out of 33 verses, where would you like to start?? In light of our most recent conversation, I could only assume that you’re drawn reference to v. 17. Would that be a fair assumption?? The reason I drew this conclusion is because of these two statements that you made. 1. My whole point was about God's eternal plan. 2. But I am fully convinced that God created everything, even the devil, to be the evil being that he is. The CurtMan |
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52 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93598 | ||
I didn't know that the snake that tempted Eve was an Asp. How did you come by that one?? Also, judging from your comment, do you think that it'll be fair to say that evil, in this case was the result of bad decisions?? |
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53 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93433 | ||
I must be the only idiot Christian in the family of God to stand up for Lucifer, but you're being unfair to him and biblical principles. It is a biblical principle that we will suffer the consequences of our decision. John 3:16-18 verifies that fact. Lucifer wasn't created to be the devil, he was created to be an Angel of Light. Simply put, Mr. I'm going to take over Heaven, made a very bad decision, refused to repent of it, which landed him in the position he's in. God knew he'd make that decision, but I don't think that God created him that way. That in itself would violate our Freedome of Choice |
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54 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93430 | ||
Brother Sal, Too many questions at one time confuses The CurtMan. It puts me in too many different arenas at the same time. However; there were two that tends to stand out in my book; Lucifer and I Cor. 16. Dealing with I Cor. 16. Someone sent you a post on this topic currently under discussion, saying something along the lines, of the things that God created were of matter; of substance. I’m afraid I’m about to mess up someone’s post so allow me to switch tracks and try it from a different perspective. There are some who believe that Wisdom was created. This can not be because if it was true, then at some point and time God would have been without wisdom since He has always exsisted. Wisdom was not created but yet it exsist. My question to you is could Evil fall in the same boat, meaning that it was not created but does exist?? Could there be anything else that might fall into the same category meaning that it wasn’t created but does exit. If you take a good look at Col. 1:16 as well as John 1:3 they specifically say that all THINGS were created by Him. What that says to me is that every matter and substance, rather in Heaven or on Earth; rather visible or invisible. Every MATTER and SUBSTANCE owes it’s origin to Christ the Sustainer; but I think the key word in this case is THINGS. As far as Lucifer is concerned, I personally believe that the whole thing involves a choice. Salvation; Obedience; Life itself. Everything involves a choice. Lucifer didn’t have to make the choice he did, neither did Adam and Eve. By the way, who forced you to except Christ?? God knew that Lucifer was going to become a rual pain, and I’m exceedingly glade that He perpared for such a thing. God could have stoped Lucifer, He could’ve stoped WWI, He could’ve stoped WWII, He could’ve even stopped 911, but He didn’t. And how do you know that even if God DID stoped Lucifer, that some other angel wouldn’t have come up with the same idea. Lucifer convienced a third of God’s angels to go up against God, how do you know that if God stoped Lucifer, some other angel wouldn’t have come up with the same bright idea of kicking God out of His Heaven. Sorry about that, TRYING to kick God out of His Heaven?? The CurtMan |
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55 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93059 | ||
Yes, I've read this. I've even made copies of it and took it home. The CurtMan |
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56 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 93057 | ||
Sal. If after tossing this question around no one has given you a solid scripture to indicate, at least in your mind, that God did not create evil. Then like everyone else, all I can offer you is my own personal beliefs. I make serious attempts to try to understand the other’s perspective on any given issue. I think that I understand yours. Col. 1:16 indicates that God created everything. He did create Lucifer, He created the Tree of Knowledge, the serpent in the garden, then there’s that verse over in Isa. 45 that you can’t seem to get around. All in all I think I see your point. I admire the fact that you’re standing firm on your beliefs, I’ve seen too many Christians who didn’t know what they believed, and ended up following every doctrine under the sun. You know what you believe and without solid evidence, you maintain your belief inspite of everything said. I disagree with your beliefs, but I admire your stance on the matter. This question I have to ask for the record. Have you tried praying on this matter? According to the first nine chapters of Proverbs, Wisdom is looking for you, seek her and ye shall find her. And what about your Spiritual Teacher, have you consulted with Him on this thing. Take a good look at 1 Cor. 2:9-16. The knowledge that the Holy Spirit has for you on this matter comes with the wisdom to understand it. No one on this forum can explain it to you to your understanding like the Holy Spirit can. Now if you don’t mind me picking on your post, there are two small points I’d like to make. The first one is, according to Gen. 2:1-2, everything that God was going to create, was created in chapter 1, which means that the Tree of Knowledge was called good along with the rest of creation at the end of chp. 1. The second point I’d like to make is something that I know you’ve heard before. I do not believe that God needed evil to accomplish His will, I can’t see the All-Sufficient God needing anything. I believe He used evil to His good. Take a look at Romans 8:28. I’m presently doing a study on Joseph. If there is anyone that I think would be a perfect example of Romans 8:28, Joseph would be the one. Hated by his brothers; sold into slavery; accused of a crime he didn’t commit. In my opinion, one of the best parts of the story is how a man, committed of a crime that was punishable by death, was pulled out of jail and placed second in charge over all of Egypt. AND THE MAN WAS A HEBREW. Are you familiar with the culture of that day? Now if that isn’t the perfect example of God using evil to His glorification and to Joseph’s elevation, then I don’t know what is. Just out of curiosity, where did Joseph acquire the Administrative Skills to run Egypt?? ALL THINGS work together for the good of those who love Him. God used evil, He didn’t need evil. The CurtMan |
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57 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | TheCurtMan | 92956 | ||
No Sal, I’m not going to crucify you for your beliefs. As a matter of fact, I see no problem with what you’re saying. However, I do need a little time to meditate on it and pray about it. We both agree that not all will be saved. But for all who will be saved will have to work out their salvation. What I mean by that is, now that I have been saved, I must act like it. I have bad habits that need to be broken. I must study the word more; witness more; pray more; and continue to strive to be more like Jesus who was perfect. I will achieve that state of perfection, but I do not believe that I will achieve it on this side of life, but in the life after life. Until then, I must continue to strive for that goal, to be like Jesus. All this is as I said before, the result of being saved. :Please do not think that I’m terminating this line of communication on this issue. I’m not. I just need to give some consideration to this one particular point. I really think that you’re going somewhere with this, and I’d like to be around when you finally get there. The CurtMan |
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58 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | TheCurtMan | 92949 | ||
Do you think that maybe you could explain simply and clearly the difference between being saved, and being redeemed?? And explain it to me as if I was a seven yr. old. I looked at Luke 17:17. What I see is ten men who was cleansed of a physical affliction. Out of that ten, one was cleansed spiritually. The other nine probably had places to go; people to see; and things to do. Glorifing God just was not on their agenda at that time. |
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59 | Who created evil? | Gen 3:1 | TheCurtMan | 92948 | ||
I personally have a hard time swallowing the fact that God created evil and called it not just good, but very good. Genesis 1:31. I keep looking at Gen. 2:17 and what I see is that God created a Tree of Knowledge. Knowledge if used correctly is a very good thing, but if used incorrectly, it can be an evil thing. I personally believe that it is possible to take something that is intended for one purpose and use it for another. I believe that evil is the result of bad decisions. I once bought a teenage friend of mine a parallel bible. A big thick hardback bible, that looked like your average Webster’s Dictionary. Now the bible in itself is good correct?? One day during a conversation that we were having, she informed me that her boyfriend was not listening to her. I jokingly suggested that she take that bible I bought her, climb a stepladder, and drop it on his toes. I told her that at that point she would have his attention. I took something that was good, and used it for something it was not designed for. The Tree of Knowledge was good, but God knew that when we misused that knowledge, evil would be the result of it. I have a hard time believing that evil is something that God created knowing that it would disrupt his creation of the planet Earth, disrupt the people that is on Earth to a degree that He, Himself would have to destroy everything with a flood, sacrifice His Son, and send people to the Eternal Lake of Fire. Try this one on for size. God is supposed to be a Just God. He’s going to create evil, and when I partake of His creation, I’m going to be eternally separated from Him, and that’s justice right?? So what do you think Sal?? Any of this making sense?? The CurtMan |
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60 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | TheCurtMan | 92840 | ||
Can either stand independent of the experience of the indwelling. If I understand your question correctly, you’re asking if these things can happen without the Holy Ghost, not even close. It is the Holy Spirit that points me in the right direction, even before I know I want to go that way. It is through the Spirit that gives me the choice to either accept or reject Christ. Without the Spirit, I probably wouldn’t even care about doing things God’s way. Take a look at Eph. 4:23, what do that mean to you in reference to your question I’ve made a mistake. I was looking at the ‘experience of the indwelling’. Allow me to try this one again. Can either stand independent of the ‘experience of the indwelling’. Yes I think that is possible. The Holy Spirit has a ministry where He points the unbeliever in the direction of Christ. I believe it is possible for the unbeliever to share some of the benefits of the Holy Spirit without being filled with the Holy Spirit. What I’m trying to say is , as an unbeliever, the Holy Spirit is working WITH me, but not living IN me. I can not explain that any clearer than that. Sorry about the mistake The CurtMan |
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