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41 | why don't people study the old testmant | OT general | Suede67 | 115487 | ||
ischus, Ok, last part is judgement, which is pretty simple. The dead are going to be judged. Note too that in verse 13 we finally have all the people how died pre-Cross, pulled out of Hades, which is the Greek equavilent of Sheol. That is the ressurection of the dead. Now, because of Christ's atoning work, Sheol or Hades is not needed anymore, so it is emptied and destroyed. It has served its purpose as a sort of 'holding tank' for souls before the Messiah came. Death is gone too, and a lot of people misinterpret this. They believe that physically we will not die anymore. This is not the case. We have to ask, what death did Adam bring into the world by sinning? Was it physical, or was it spiritual? It was spiritual. Adam was warned on the exact day he ate from the tree, he would die. But, when he and Eve ate from it, did they fall over physically dead? No, they didn't. But they did die spiritually. Note what Jesus tells Martha, "Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?" (John 11:25,26) Being immortal in the flesh is not taught in the Bible. Hope that sort of covers what you were after, let me know if it doesn't, take care, SUEDE |
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42 | why don't people study the old testmant | OT general | Suede67 | 115585 | ||
Ischus, “Ok, so now I need to hear your view on the current status of Hell, Heaven, and the Kingdom of God.” Great. Heaven always has been, always will be. When Adam sinned, he cut ties with God, his sin separated us. Mankind could not go to heaven, he had to go to Sheol or Hades and await the Messiah that would atone the sin that Adam started that separated us from God. It is because of Jesus, that we can get into Heaven and bypass Sheol; something people from the Old Testament could not do. The kingdom of God is here, now, Christians make this up. We are totally under the New Covenant, and the Kingdom of God will never end no that it’s in place. “Are you saying that Hell and/or Satan no longer exists?” Hell yes, Satan no. First of all, it’s unfortunate that we often confuse Hades with Hell. These are really two different things. Hades is the Greek equivalent of Sheol, or the grave. Sometimes it was called Abraham’s Bosom. This in essence was a holding tank of sorts. Since Adam sinned, no man could go to heaven to be with God, but where did he go when he died? He went to Sheol or Hades to await the Messiah. BUT, after the Messiah came, Sheol/Hades was no longer needed. Hades gave up the dead in her, and they were judged. But, then Hades gets thrown into the ‘lake of fire’. It is this lake of fire that we often refer to as Hell. But we can see, that Hades and Hell are two very different things. Rev 20:13,14 “ And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. The devil, or Satan finds a similar fate. Rev 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. And when we think about this, it makes sense. If Satan is still around, then really Jesus didn’t defeat him. Jesus still has things to do. This of course is not true. “How do you interpret the 1000 years in Rev. 20?” To me John is speaking prophetically, not literally. It represents a transition period from roughly 30 AD to 70 AD. Most people balk at this idea, but it’s really not that difficult. One, prophetic language tends to be VERY poetic, just read through some of the OT prophesies and you’ll understand. Look at what else is in Rev 20:1-2. You got an angel, a key, a chain, an abyss, and a dragon. I think it is unfair to say these are literal, and I think it’s unfair to say that they are poetic or symbolic, but then to demand that the 1,000 years be literal. To me, that would be bad interpretation. “What is your view of the "already, not yet" philosophy?” A cop out in my opinion, and in light of the Bible it is incorrect. What it attempts to say is that you do have things, but not in full. I don’t buy this, it sounds like someone is ducking some issues. The sad thing is, I want to say that an understanding of end times is not essential. But, really, it is. Not for salvation, but for an understanding of the Bible as a whole. One thing that irks me is that people ignore audience relevance. We MUST understand that the Gospels and Letters that make up the New Testament made sense to the first century Christians. What I like to say is this, the Bible is written for us, but not to us. Do you see the difference? We, in the 21st century are NOT the people the Letters and Gospels are addressed to. It’s shocking, but it’s true. In fact, 19 of the NT books have specific people or groups of people they are addressed to! If you remove the audience, the time indicators don’t make sense. Let’s look at who Paul’s letter to the Corinthians is addressed to. 1 Corinthians 1:2 “To the church of God in Corinth….” Ok, now that we know this, let’s look at 1 Cor 15:51,52 “We shall not all fall sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.” So…who is the ‘we’ in this passage? Us, or the 1st Century Corinthians? Do you see the difference that makes? Startling isn’t it? Let me allow you to ponder on that. Heads up, I might not be on tomorrow, we’ve got company and what not, entertaining I guess. But I’ll follow up when I can. Take care, your friends are with you. SUEDE |
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43 | why don't people study the old testmant | OT general | Suede67 | 116092 | ||
Justin, Well, good to hear from you. I was just going to check back with you and see how your studies were going, and your...let's say CAPS post was on the front. I'm glad to hear that it wasn't directed at me, and I'm sorry you've reached some opposition. You've also cleared out your profile so I couldn't e-mail you, even though I know what church you attend. You're a DFW resident as am I. Anyways, you can always e-mail me at suede672001@yahoo.com Just be sure to put a subject like Ischus or something. You know, one of the beauties of the internet is you can always walk away from it. LOL, I know I've had to this MANY of times, being a Preterist and all! So no big deal. Besides, there's other forums too, I spread myself over several of them. Anyways though, I really appreciated your willingness to hear me out and give Preterism a fair and honest look, whether you ultimately adopt it or not. I of course encourage you to study it further! ;-) Alright, well, take care, hope to hear from you sometime in the future, may God bless regardless thought. SUEDE |
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44 | Problems with length of reigns of2 kings | 2 Kin 13:1 | Suede67 | 92762 | ||
seracher got it right, and let me add there is a book that deals with this topic called "The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings" by Edwin R. Thiele if you are interested in further reading. |
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45 | Is it sin to smoke a cigarette? | Is 44:1 | Suede67 | 114112 | ||
GreatfullyDead I see Paul’s statement to the Corinthians as more specific, noting that he says “All OTHER sins man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.” We should note that adulterery is one of the 10 Commandments. I therefore think it is incorrect to use the “body as a temple defense”. Really, we have to ask ourselves, where does it end? Ok smoking is bad, what else? Well, alcohol is bad, so that too must be a sin. Caffeine alters your ‘temple’; therefore it is a sin too. In fact, all drugs alter your body, so we should let our child die instead of taking medication. Do you see the snowballing that legalism gets into? “”If you'll check with any reformed ex-smoker or ex-drug user, they'll all tell you the same thing. That "stuff" in the human body becomes a monster, controlling your every waking moment.”” Yes, I know. Not only am I an ex smoker, I’m also an ex drug user. But, I didn’t use the body as a temple statement. That carries way too many legalistic aspects as noted above. “”Please, I would beg you, DON'T give encouragement to anyone who is hooked on this junk and let him think God won't hold them accountable. We need to help educate people like this and love their souls enough to tell them the truth. I do hope you'll reconsider. There are far more damaging, long term effects than just the image you mentioned. God bless you in your study.”” Don’t get me wrong now. I certainly don’t give encouragement to anyone. In fact, I know that I can use my own testimony to help out others. I’ve been there with the smoking, I’ve been there with the drugs; I know. You should not do this, make no mistake. However we need to be careful what we condemn as a sin, we must avoid the Holier than thou mode of thinking. Cults do that, not Christians. Take care, SUEDE |
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46 | Is it sin to smoke a cigarette? | Is 44:1 | Suede67 | 114261 | ||
Hey Rowdy, Sorry about all the confusion, Greatfullydead seemed to be the start of the post, I didn't mean to link to you, but no harm no foul. I still maintain that smoking is not a sin, fornication is the only clearly defined sin against the body. I'm very, very strongly against the use and abuse of legalism. I think it is incorrect to list smoking as a sin, but agree that we should not smoke purely for our own health reasons. Listing undefined things as sins too often leads to madness and a breakdown of Christendom. That's my take anyways, take care, SUEDE |
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47 | Is it sin to smoke a cigarette? | Is 44:1 | Suede67 | 114296 | ||
Rowdy, Thanks for your generosity, but I guess you and I know there will never be a last word on this or many other issues. However, for our topic the last word is that no smoking is not a sin. Thanks, take care, may God bless, SUEDE |
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48 | What would this sound like? | Daniel | Suede67 | 114074 | ||
Hey CDBJ, Well, sounding like is certainly up for 'artistic' interpretation. However, I believe that this is just a poetic way of speaking, metaphorically that is, and is not literal in meaning. Look at the surrounding verses. You have eyes like flames of fire, or feet as bright as bronze. Look at Daniel's account of the Son of Man as well. So personally I think it's just a metaphor. The Greek here is often meant as rivers or fountains, however it can literally just mean water and is used in such a manner. If you are looking for more of what a literal sound might be like, check out Revelation 14:2 "And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps." Here we have a heavenly voice that's like the sound of many waters, and thunder and harps. So, that might help to get a literal audio idea. Now, an interesting "alternate" way of looking at this is that 'waters' sometimes refers to groups of people. Check out Revelation 17:15 "And he said to me, "The waters which you saw where the harlot sits, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues." This might be a bit of a stretch as 17:15 is focusing on a specific body of 'water', but it is a possibility. Hope this helps, take care, SUEDE |
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49 | The law cannot be altogether invalid... | Matt 5:19 | Suede67 | 114077 | ||
Hey Kalos, This is an interesting topic, one that’s quite valid, and actually one that’s not that difficult to answer in my opinion. Allow me to throw out another way of looking at this. As far as “End Times” go, I’m a Preterist; that is I believe all “End Times” events including the Second Coming have already happened. Though this might sound odd, hear me out as you yourself weren’t that far off from it with this statement. “Obviously civil laws applied to the people of Israel when they were in the land of Israel, from the time of Moses until 70 A.D.” You’re right in noting that in 70 AD, civil laws ended. But why? Well, because that was the consummation of the Ages, that was when the fulfillment of prophecy happened. You are also very correct to divide up civil and moral laws as you did in this manner, “Does the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments still apply? All but one of them are repeated in the New Testament. Jesus places much emphasis on them. Paul in his writings speaks of them, as does James in his. If they did not apply today, then we would be "free" to commit adultery, lie, steal, murder, etc. Without the Law people would be either in idolatry or doing things that harm others.” Well said. Moral laws exist, but the written laws do not. God ALWAYS intended for mankind to be quite free, and in Christ, we are. Legalism nowadays is quite man made, and VERY man motivated. It’s the number one red flag of a wrong faith. Take care, SUEDE |
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50 | The law cannot be altogether invalid... | Matt 5:19 | Suede67 | 114107 | ||
Kalos, Excellent quotes!!! Take care, ADD |
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51 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 92822 | ||
Hi Dairyleader5, Thanks for writing me, I'll quote you by putting "" around your quotes. "Saying that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are no longer needed, or just for the early Church, is the reason the gifts of the spirit are not being manifested in our churches today." This I disagree with. If merely saying they aren't needed can prevent them from being manifested, I think we need to question the reality of them then. "Which of these gifts do you say you have, according to some you cant have even faith, even thou it is a gift, so the people who say the gifts were only for the early church are mistaken." Faith is something different, it's not commonly considered a "spiritual" gift. Faith, like grace, is a gift from God. Personally when I mean spiritual gifts, I mean tongues, prophecy, healing, things more along those lines, not faith. "How many Churches have you been in that teach these gifts and how to recieve them?" None. Personally I would never attend a church that taught these things. That's fine if you wish to, I don't believe in fragmenting the church over non essentials like this, but personally I will never attend a church that has "gifts" such as tongues or prophecy. "The congregation doesnt know that these gifts are available." Well, then again we must ask, why not, if from God they should be evident. But they are not. Something to consider. "The gifts are not seen in the U.S. because the pastors have to believe they exsist." Again though, this is a pattern I'm seeing. If these gifts are from God, they would be evident regardless of what the pastor felt. I don't think the pastor has anything to with it. "The Bible says that these things will follow those who believe," Yes, that is in accordance with the Last Days, or end of the age, which being a Preterist I believe has already happened. Paul flat out tells the Corinthians that gifts are going to cease. "do you think that people are trying to follow gifts or are the signs follow the believer." I think people try to follow gifts. ", but all I wanted to say was be careful what you say about what the Bible say we can have." That's cool, and thanks for caring. Kindness is a sign of belief. Again though, being a Preterist I view the Bible within a 1st century context. Things spoken of in it, have passed, including gifts. However, if you are a believer, then that's enough for me. Again, I wouldn't try to curse you or say you are a heretic for believing in gifts, I just do not and have never seen a valid arguement for the continuation of them pass 70 AD. "In short these gifts are not manifested in churches because of unbelief." Or because they are no longer available. "God be with you." Amen, He is. Same to you, God is with you, take care, SUEDE |
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52 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 92947 | ||
DairyLeader5 I think part of the problem is you are confusing Faith with tongues or prophecy. You can't say faith is a spiritual gift and use that in an attempt to "prove" spiritual gifts. Is Grace a spritiual gift as well? Faith and Grace are seperate from tongues and prophecy and healings. You'll need better "proofs" to prove that gifts are valid for today. Take care, |
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53 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93170 | ||
Yes, I read the verses, still they aren't matching up. We must remember, if we are "taught" something, it has to match up with the Bible. I am greatly bothered when someone reverts back to "this is what the Holy Spirit taught me" and it doesn't fit with the Bible. That "teaching" should be ignored then. If you desire to believe in gifts, that's fine, but I have never seen a Biblical proof from them past 70 AD. Gifts were for the early Church and ceased, just like Paul said they would. Take care, | ||||||
54 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93177 | ||
Hi there, I think the reason that there's not "powerful works" as in gifts, is because they aren't available anymore, and have not been for a very long time. It was only til under 200 years ago that American churches started to bend towards more charsmatic views on the Bible. Sadly, it seems that study of the Word of God went away, and speaking in jibber jabber came in. This also seems to coincide with the rise of Dispensationalism, Cults like SDA, JWs, and Christian Zionism; none of which are Biblically supported. However, since people have stopped reading and studying the Bible, these things are "acceptable". I personally urge people to return to their Bibles and do some serious study. Leave "tongues" alone, and "healing" and Prophecy. This things have ceased, just like the Bible tells us. Take care, |
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55 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93298 | ||
Well, I guess the question to ask is, why would gifts make you a first or upper class Christian? It wouldn't. Again, I'm a Preterist, so I view the Bible within in context of the 1st century. I wish more did, it makes more sense. God IS with us, now and forever. He never left. He's here, all around, so is the Kingdom of God. Too often we fail to recognize Him and it. If gifts can be done away with do to unbelief, are they really from God then? I wouldn't think so. Take care, | ||||||
56 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93299 | ||
Hi Steve, no problem jumping in late either, I do it way too often myself! I'm glad 1 Corinthians 13:8 caught your eye. That one verse, and the few surrounding it, has troubled many a theologian. The sad thing is, it doesn't have too! Let me put it to you like this, there are no such things as Bible difficulties!! There is only Theology Difficulties. The Bible doesn't have a problem, our theology does. We want the Bible to fit our theology, instead of having our theology fit the Bible. ...Are you suggesting that "then" has already come? Has the event that Paul referred to - "when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears" - has already happened? Has perfection already come a second time? ... Yes, but know that it is not I that suggests, it's the Bible that tells. Let me drop this on you cause you seem ready to hear it, Christ told his disciples that he would return in 40 years. And he said his return would be a like a flash of lightning. People want to physically see Christ coming down from the sky with organ music playing and a heavenly choir. Very theatric, but not Biblically correct. If Christ did NOT return in 40 years, He was a liar and is therefore NOT the Messiah. Now, personally, I'm not going to say that. ...That is when gifts such as prophecy and tongues will disappear. 1 Corinthians 13 makes perfect sense apart from any discussion of whether or not God has suspended spiritual gifts... Yes, and this too makes sense with the rest of the Bible. Ok, there's two ages listed in the Bible, as far as the NT goes. Check it out for yourself. The apostles state that there is this Age, which was the Age relevant to THEIR lifetime, and then the Age to come, which is relevant to OUR lifetime and has be relevant since 70 AD. The Ages was the passing of the OT covenant into the NT Covenant. We are now in the eternal Covenant. Think about it like this, why do we need prophesy anymore? What on earth is left to tell? ...I'd be interested to know what you think the Holy Spirit is supposed to do "in" us. It seems to me that anything he is likely to do "in" me will probably manifest itself in some outward way - as a gift of the spirit.... Yes, the Holy Spirit, i.e. God IS in you. Your body is His temple and He dwells in you. And Paul tells us that Love is now the gift that remains. It is the only apt gift now when you think about it. You see, gifts like healing and prophesy were there to edify the early church, which desperately needed these things. Remember, Rome and Paganism was against it, but also the non Believing Jews were as well, which is equaling depressing. The early church needed something to show that it was the ONE true faith. Gifts provided that. Remember, all the prophets, and Jesus himself, could perform miracles. Why? To show that they were from God in a time of trouble. Now God IS here. Satan IS under our feet. Satan has been defeated, just like the Bible says. Gifts aren't needed anymore, we have full authority here. Now, we need to go spread the Gospel and tell the people the good news!! We win, because Christ won, just like the Bible tells us. Take care, SUEDE |
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57 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93300 | ||
Hey Tim, Sorry this is a late response, still getting used to the lay out here. Yes, the other person said it correct, 1 Cor 13:8 shows that all but Love will cease. I'll go into more depth on the response initally given to you by Darcy. Take care, SUEDE |
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58 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93301 | ||
Hi Darcy, ...Just curious if you are referring to 1 Cor 13:8 were paul writes and says the tongues, prophecy, and knowledge will cease but Agape love won't cease?... Yes I was. ...Because if that is the verse you are referring to, you are taking out of context because in verse 10 it says "but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away." We live far from a perfect world. Perfection won't come until Jesus our Lord and Savior comes back to sit on the throne of David.... Brace yourself, I'm NOT taking that verse out of context. Perfection has come, just like He said He would. Shocking? It shouldn't be. His disciples flat out ask Jesus when he is going to return and Jesus flat out tells them within 40 years. Jesus IS on the Throne, again, just like he said. ...One more thing in Revelation 19:10 It says that the testimony of Jesus Christ IS the spirit of prophecy. If prophecy has ceased you would also have to say that Jesus' testimony has also ceased since it is the spirit of prophecy.... Yes, the testimony of Jesus is the SPIRIT of prophecy. That's correct. Now, that was more apt back when John wrote Revelation, but still today as we preach the Gospel. Only for us, it's not really prophetic, it's a reality, it did happen. ...One more thing people who believe the gifts have not ceased aren't all charsmatic... That is true, but most aren't far from it. ...I do not believe that Satan or another spirit will heal the afflicted and bring people to Jesus, only the Holy Spirt can and will do that... I agree, but one, who says those people really needed to be healed. And two, I don't deny that God is all powerful, He does as He pleases. However, spiritual gifts as a whole have passed, again, just as the Bible says. ...If you read the book of Acts you will find that the book doesn't end. It doesn't end because we are in the book of Acts... This may be shocking, but we are out of Revelation! We are not in Acts by a long shot, haven't been there for almost 2,000 years, haven't been in Revelation for basically 1,900 years. I'm sure you don't know how to react right now, but hopefully your curiousity has spiked. Take care, SUEDE |
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59 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93303 | ||
Hey Retxar, Sorry this is a late response. 1 Cor 13:8 shows us that gifts will cease. At the time of 1 Cor 1:7 spritual gifts were very much abound still. Both 13:8 and 1:7 show us that they cease upon Christ's return. Now it's just a matter of when you feel Christ will or has returned. Take care, SUEDE |
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60 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93324 | ||
Hey Darcy, ...If perfection has come, why is there more sin in this world than probably ever... That's actually a bit of speculation on your part. Remember, during the 1st century, there was literally worldwide paganism. That is not true today. Though it seems like the the world is worse due to the Media, Christianity is spreading like a brush fire in the southern hemisphere. ...as the bible states in Matthew 24:37, "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah." Notice that it says "the coming" not "when I am here"... Yes, Christ's coming caught people off guard. It shouldn't have as they were forewarned, but it did none the less. ...As far as I am concerned in this day and age is far from perfection,.. I agree with you, and I'm certainly not saying the world is perfect. ...and the bible states very clearly that when he returns to earth this world will be perfect... Are you sure? ..What we refer to as the Lord's prayer You honestly think all this sin in the world today is his will?.. No, it's not his will, it's counter to it. But that's not a sign of Him not being here. There was great sin abound when Christ was in the flesh. ..The bible states that satan is the "god of this world" (2cor 4:4) In order to believe what you do you would have to say this verse is no longer true.. That's correct. Look at this, Romans 16:20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you. Paul was telling people that were alive in the first century that God was fixing to crush Satan under THEIR feet. ..and if that is the case why is there still sin?.. Why would there not be? Sin came in via Adam, people today still have sin nature, they always will. We as humans are our own problem. Our sin nature is why there is sin in this world. ..In Rev 1:7, "BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him," I personally have never seen Him... Yes you have, you aren't realizing it though. You desire to see Him in the flesh, that's all. But He's here, you see Him in fellow Christians. ..How could Jesus clearly tell His disciples that He would be back in 40 years? When He didn't know Himself. "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." (Mat. 24:36).. Actually, the answer is in that verse. Jesus as a man did NOT know the day or hour. But he did know it would happen within 40 years. That's the difference. ..Explain to me if Jesus came back 40 years after He left in Acts 1 why is it that John wrote the book of Revelation which clearly states the day of the Lord and the day of perfection when John didn't write the book until after 90 probably closer to 95 AD? John didn't write Revelation in 90 or 95 AD. That's a incorrect date, that unfortunately hinders people. A more correct date is between 60 AD and 67 AD. I can give you some info on this if you like. ...Out of the book of Acts and Revelation? show me.... Acts is easy, there's nothing to state that we are IN the Book of Acts. Acts is very much a historical book of the early, early church. Revelation was given to John to warn the early Christians that everything they had been taught over the past 40 years was in fact coming to a head. He warned seven literal churches that he probably established and warned the Christians in Jerusalem that they were to leave the Harlot of Babylon. That's right, Jerusalem was the Harlot of Revelation and was judged in 70 AD, again just as God said he would. ...The bible states in 1pet 2:24 I guess that verse no longer applies according to your theology... No it still does. I in no way remove Christ or His sacrifice for us the undeserving. ..Just one more thought. If the gifts have ceased where do you draw the line. At salvation? or has that GIFT ceased as well?.. Salvation is a gift from God in the form of grace. However, "gifts" or spiritual gifts typically imply tongues, prophecy, and perhaps healing. That's what most mean by "gifts". Has grace passed. Never. Have gifts like tongues passed? Yes. ..Also have you ever gotten a cold or the flu? And are no longer sick? If healings have ceased tell me this how are you cured?... Yes, our natural body has obvious failures. And we can heal those on natural terms, i.e. medication. Now, can God heal people? Yes, he's God. But is this still a valid common gift found in Christians? Not really. Healing is a tough one. Now as far as tongues and prophecy go, yes, without a doubt and full authority those have passed. Thanks for asking question, I hope you have more and will contiune the dialog, I'm enjoying it and I hope you are too, take care, SUEDE |
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