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41 | Keep the Sabbath Holy? | Bible general Archive 3 | RC Scrolls | 190967 | ||
The Law never saved anybody, They were saved by their Faith. The Law was a driver (choolmaster)but under it no one man had a realationship with God, unless they had Faith. Thats why Christ has come for if by the Law no man would have been saved. Heb 7:19 (KJV) 19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. Heb 10:1 (KJV) 1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. The works of the Law dosent save. We now have a new much better covenant. Judaism was totally ended By God Himself no more sacrifices for sins. Thats why in Math 24 He said they would see the Temple throwen down in their generation, and it was Destroyed in 70 AD. Some may believe that Judaism still exists but it isnt The Religeon of God so what is it. This is not an anti Semetic remark its fact. Just as some call themselves Chrisians 1/3 of 7th Dayers Jehovahs witnesses Mormons etc. Owe Your statement about Christ performing the laws, Where does that come from. It still is not correct either, He stated on the Cross it is finished. Amen Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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42 | Keep the Sabbath Holy? | Bible general Archive 3 | RC Scrolls | 190901 | ||
The Sabbath Was Gods rest from Creation. Since then God has been trying to redeem man. Finally since the Law didnt work Christs Day of Resurrection is a new Day. Now we rest in His Redemptive work. Sunday we worship in Christs Redemption Day. The Law was a Shadow and Christ fulfills all, There are no more types or shadows we have Christ. There are two ages in the Bible Mosaic age and the Age to come which we are now in. Since Judaisim was ended with the destruction of their place of Sacrifice ie Temple 70 A.D. Then all has been fulfilled. We have a much better rest, We rest in Christs performing all the Law for us, and we can rest everyday in Christ not just one day. Amen. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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43 | Keep the Sabbath Holy? | Bible general Archive 3 | RC Scrolls | 190900 | ||
Hi Searcher its been awhile, Please use the search box for these Questions have already been dealt with at lenght, Here is one very good post from Kalos, Are the Sabbath laws binding on Christians today? . . . We believe the Old Testament regulations governing Sabbath observances are ceremonial, not moral, aspects of the law. As such, they are no longer in force, but have passed away along with the sacrificial system, the Levitical priesthood, and all other aspects of Moses' law that prefigured Christ. . . . Here are the reasons we hold this view. . . . In Colossians 2:16-17, Paul explicitly refers to the Sabbath as a shadow of Christ, which is no longer binding since the substance (Christ) has come. It is quite clear in those verses that the weekly Sabbath is in view. The phrase "a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day" refers to the annual, monthly, and weekly holy days of the Jewish calendar (cf. 1 Chronicles 23:31; 2 Chronicles 2:4; 31:3; Ezekiel 45:17; Hosea 2:11). If Paul were referring to special ceremonial dates of rest in that passage, why would he have used the word "Sabbath?" He had already mentioned the ceremonial dates when he spoke of festivals and new moons. . . . The Sabbath was the sign to Israel of the Mosaic Covenant (Exodus 31:16-17; Ezekiel 20:12; Nehemiah 9:14). Since we are now under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8), we are no longer required to observe the sign of the Mosaic Covenant. . . . The New Testament never commands Christians to observe the Sabbath. . . . In our only glimpse of an early church worship service in the New Testament, the church met on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7). . . . Nowhere in the Old Testament are the Gentile nations commanded to observe the Sabbath or condemned for failing to do so. That is certainly strange if Sabbath observance were meant to be an eternal moral principle. . . . There is no evidence in the Bible of anyone keeping the Sabbath before the time of Moses, nor are there any commands in the Bible to keep the Sabbath before the giving of the law at Mt. Sinai. . . . When the Apostles met at the Jerusalem council (Acts 15), they did not impose Sabbath keeping on the Gentile believers. . . . The apostle Paul warned the Gentiles about many different sins in his epistles, but breaking the Sabbath was never one of them. . . . In Galatians 4:10-11, Paul rebukes the Galatians for thinking God expected them to observe special days (including the Sabbath). . . . In Romans 14:5, Paul forbids those who observe the Sabbath (these were no doubt Jewish believers) to condemn those who do not (Gentile believers). . . . The early church fathers, from Ignatius to Augustine, taught that the Old Testament Sabbath had been abolished and that the first day of the week (Sunday) was the day when Christians should meet for worship (contrary to the claim of many seventh-day sabbatarians who claim that Sunday worship was not instituted until the fourth century). . . . Sunday has not replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. Rather the Lord's Day is a time when believers gather to commemorate His resurrection, which occurred on the first day of the week. Every day to the believer is one of Sabbath rest, since we have ceased from our spiritual labor and are resting in the salvation of the Lord (Hebrews 4:9-11). . . . So while we still follow the pattern of designating one day of the week a day for the Lord's people to gather in worship, we do not refer to this as "the Sabbath." And I would like to add that what would we be resting from when our total rest comes in the Lord on Resurrection Day, the Lords Day. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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44 | How Trinity of God is working? | Gal 4:6 | RC Scrolls | 190743 | ||
Hi, i don't know who you are but I do know Where and what Spirit you come from, and instead of bearing with you the unbiblical doctrine of oneness Pentacostalisim or Apostlic. I would ask you to think about one thing, The Bible tells us that many will not Endure sound doctrine in the last Days, and where do you think your Doctrine comes from But an added Doctrine from the last Days. Less than 2 Hundred years old I ask that you not come to a forum which is biblically based, and insteagd of snuggling up too you I will do the opposite rather than forbear you here, If you wish to get out of a cult email me, I am tired of hearing people call Jehovahs witnesses and mormons a cult, yet Call which ever oneness cult you are from Christian when Paul Would have rebuked you so do I, its just not worth the fair study I would submitt to you, when you have grasped nothing from my prior posts. Heres a few scriptures to meditate on from the True church. 1 Corinthians 4:18 and all of chapter 5--many puffed up (prideful) in spite of open sinning by congregation member--they are told to get that man out of the church--Paul delivers the man to Satan 2 Corinthians 10:8-11, Chapter 11:1-4, 12-15, 20-23--false apostles exposed as bringing another “Jesus” into the congregation Romans 16:17--Church there told to take note of those causing divisions contrary to the doctrine of Christ and avoid them Galatians 1:8--false brethren bringing circumcision into the Galatian church--presenting another “Jesus”--Paul said, “Let him be accursed!” Titus 1:9-16--Timothy told to rebuke false teachers--they must be stopped because they are doing great damage to the body of Christ there 1 Timothy 5:19-20--Rebuke in public those who continue to sin speak of bringing the false out into the light, that it may lose its power over people. Ephesians 5:11 states this clearly, but the choice is ours to obey--or not, and suffer the consequences. Consequences that are even now destroying lives and taking the people of God by the hand into spiritual harlotry. What originates outside the Scriptures should for that very reason be suspect until it can be shown to be in accord with them. If it should be found to be contrary to the Word of revealed truth, no true Christian will accept it as being from God. However high the emotional content, no experience can be proved to be unless we can find chp and vs. Love in the Real Tri unity God RC. |
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45 | Will we recognize loved ones in Heaven | Rev 7:9 | RC Scrolls | 190694 | ||
Its a wonderful thing to meditate on Heaven and to know that we will be known even as we are known now. 1 Cor 13:12 (KJV) 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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46 | 666 doesn't represent all of humans. | Rev 13:18 | RC Scrolls | 190665 | ||
Kind of funny that John would of told people two thousand yrs ago that they could know the name of the beast. What good would it have done them if they could have known the name back then. More reasons that dont make sense, unless its already fulfilled. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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47 | STUMP THE PASTOR | Prov 5:4 | RC Scrolls | 190612 | ||
Christs truth is as a two edged sword. And the harlot is Israel. Love in christ Jesus RC. Found in Ezekiel Chp 16 |
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48 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190602 | ||
My old screen name is RC SCROLL. (Non Plural)If you have any ?s that I can help in, you can email me at rcscrolls @aol.com |
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49 | You asked for a reponse, I gave it. | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190597 | ||
Thank you very much for your reply, and may I now state that I have a left and a right foot again, Thank you so much, hopefully we can start over on the right foot. LOL, Please check in on Revelation Questions from time to time, there are alot of awsome answers. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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50 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190596 | ||
I have struggled with the same issue, and you would say the same about me. The Lord works in wonderful ways. One thing we both need to practise atleast i do, is that When Iam sold out on a doctrine theres no need to strfe about it, God wins and so do we. I do accept your apology how ever I need you to forgive me aswell. I still need to learn patience Especially when dealing with a Brother . Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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51 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190592 | ||
Thank you Hank along time since Ive talked to you. I will take that too heart and will be sure to post my scriptures alongside aswell. I just havent seen anyone else do it,(ie Rapture Etc) so I naturally thought that maybe an Old view from Church History would be understood aswell in the same light. If it needs to be proven then I will take it on Gladdly. You have a nice Day Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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52 | You asked for a reponse, I gave it. | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190590 | ||
Hi Cheri, Please understand that when you ask a question or post one the person to which you posted too gets a copy. You have wrote to me asking questions and I answer them and you either reply with I didn’t ask any thing, or you don’t answer the reply period. For instance you said, Log in to see more... Subject: Interpreting Revelation Note: When did God end Judaism? Are you speaking of Judaism as religion, heritage or nationality? I wrote you back this comment, Subject: Interpreting Revelation Note: All the land promises had and are complete for Israel Lettering in Bold is done by me Josh 23:14-15 (KJV) 14 And, behold, this day I am going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which the LORD your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, and not one thing hath failed thereof. 15 Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you. Jer 3:6-8 (KJV) God speaking 6 The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot. 7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it. 8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. God the Father has Divorced Israel Jer 33:23-24 (KJV) 23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying, 24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them. Now the Prince of Peace shall get Married God the Son, and the spiritual Israe,Jews(Christians) are a Holy Nation 1 Peter 2:9-10 (KJV) 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. Gal 6:15-18 (KJV) 15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. 17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. 18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. 2 Cor 1:20 (KJV) 20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. When the bible Talks about all Israel shall be saved its Talking about the Spiritual Israel even from the Older Testament. Abraham, Moses David Etc National Israel dose'nt exist anymore Physically. Unless your a Dispensationalist then you would think that. God owes Israel nothing Love in Christ Jesus RC You never had a comment back, that’s what I am talking about, it takes work for me to show you what I have learned and you just shrug it off. Heres another post you wrote me and asked me to answer, Subject: Interpreting Revelation Note: RC You said " I am neither a Pre or post Triber or Mid for that matter. I fail to see that if something has been fullfilled completely, why does it have to be done again, And I don't mean a double Prophesy as in Tyre which had Different time fulfillments." You make it sound like you mean Revelation has been fulfilled - that's not possible!! What are you talking about? Cheri Part A |
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53 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190586 | ||
You are welcome. I do have two user profiles, because I started getting emails that were less than what one would call inapropriate, we changed my User profile. I think that maybe both of us are determined to the point that we miss each other when we defend ourselves, I have been in that situation before.Any how I will list my scriptures and Historical evidences when I state anything that you may take as opinion. I appreciate your input, I just didnt have a clear enough picture. I do post scripture when asked to verify something. But like I said I dont understand why others arent asked the same. I didnt feel it neccasary to list scripture since it already hant been done by others with their views. My other profile is RC Scroll. Love in christ Jesus RC |
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54 | When was Revelation written and why ? | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190577 | ||
Hi Kalos good to hear from you again, its been along time. I can only give you one reason that the book of Revelation dosen't mention the Destruction of the Temple, and its an obvious one. The Book of Revelation wasn't written in the 90s at all, thats only one point of view, more specifically the futurist view. I have alot of evidence that shows it was written Before 70 A.D. not 96 AD. as other adherents would suggest. Your right about the fact of the Temple Destruction not being mentioned, it is Definatly silent on this matter which raises dought to that view. We know that if John had of written in 96 A.D. or anytime after 70 A.D. He most assuredly would have stated something about the most Horiffic event in the History of the Jews, and the demolition of their Religeon by God Himself. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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55 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190575 | ||
The Bible is to be studied and understood and is its own wonderful Teacher. Should Always be studied from within itself first. Your correct in Stating that Revelation isnt fullfilled, thats True to a certain extent. Most of it is a recording of Old Testament Metaphors, allegories, Analogies, Metaphors and Symbolisim. When we understand those precepts we come to a better understanding. However that being said most of it Has been Fulfilled in Historical Evidence. In one opinion. There are many views of Revelation and we should never think that we have it all, but at the same time not dismiss anything that is adherent to the Scriptures Especially if it has real Evidence. Take for an instance, who would you say fulfills Revelation 17:10. The (one who is) or do you think that its still future. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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56 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190574 | ||
Hi Jeff, in almost 6 years on the forum I haven’t ever had such a negative response. I would like to know something, are you a Moderator or a forum member. I really don’t think you know my position as I have not revealed it to anyone. And since you try to declare me as a self professed esoteric person (new Revelation) I would like you to clarify just what is it that’s got you in such a bind. I haven’t seen anyone justify a Dispensationalist point of view, yet many make comments and opinions about their view with out having to (back it up) with scripture as you are wanting me to do. The terms of use on the Forum doesn’t seem to be present when others have their opinion including Atheists. I find it hard to believe that you wish to scrutinize me to a higher standard than others. It is not my intent to call anyone wrong or right, yet that is exactly what the forum doing in this case with me. I adhere to the Bible for my interpretation and am known for sticking to what I can prove and demanding scriptural answers. I live in a world as we all do where everything is called into question, and that is my intent here, to offer points of view that have been held by the Church for centuries. Having a different point of view, is a wonderful communion with others in the body of Christ, it sharpens some and corrects others. I just don’t understand like I said that You want me to give proof, when so many others statements are just taken at adherum. In Seminary the study of Revelation is a settled course, in which it is studied for about 6 months. One of my Pastors has been studying the Bible for 48 yrs and admits that the Doctrine He learned in Seminary was never questioned, although He himself is an Author of multiple books on the subject. I am not so very impressed with my self either, I actually take this statement as a character bashing. I am grateful to the Lord for seeing me through the course, as I have had to read all the History from about 500 BC until this Day, not just Biblical writings but those like Josephus and His 28 volumes, as well as all the Church Fathers. I can assure you this one thing that what I have studied and have finally come to a conclusion on concerning Eschatological views is Backed up by more People in the History of the Church than a Dispensationalist view, I’m sorry to say. I know that God doesn’t give anyone special revelation, That’s why we have His word, all is Revealed to us already. At this point I would like you to share with me just what view do you believe. I could start listing some thirteen hundred pages of my documented proof, including Historical Facts dates Etc, however I don’t believe that it would be put to good use, for more often than not people will not dare to open their minds, regardless to what History holds. All the People of Church History that may have been pre trib before 1800 AD would fit on one hand. And as I have stated the other view was held by most of the Church for over 18 centuries now. I pray that this is not taken the wrong way, for I am a very Loving Christian. If the result is that The Study bible forum is only a place for Dispensationalists then let me know. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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57 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190520 | ||
Its what dispensationalists Beleive, a New Temple etc. Can you imagine after God Destroyed the Temple, having another one built, and sacrifices starting up again. Which I am firm belief, that it will never Happen. I just wonder what people will do if Israel as a place gets taken out someday. Dipensationalists view demands that hords of Jews will be killed again. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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58 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190514 | ||
Thats really good,and I do appreciate it.Thak you very much. I was a Dispenstionalist for probably 10 yrs. However after studying the cream of the crop, Lindsay, Le Haye, Walvoord, Dewight Pentacost, I became very suspicious. When I did a comparative study between all, They all had different Revelation on the same scriptures, which made me very disgruntled. I Asked the Lord to allow me to study this subject of Eschatology. It took me 8 years to discover what I did, not just with internal Biblical evidence but External aswell. And I don't mean a little here and there but atleast three to 6 hours at a time for Eight yrs Daily. I am neither a Pre or post Triber or Mid for that matter. I fail to see that if something has been fullfilled completely, why does it have to be done again, And I don't mean a double Prophesy as in Tyre which had Different time fulfillments. I started with the Dating of Revelation from all the accounts that we have and took off from there. From Ireneus's statement about its Date on up. I have come to a conclusion that Dispensationalism is very Anti Semetic in the Fact that God would once again chastise Israel by killing two thirds of them off while protecting the Church from the same time period. When He has let all the Myrters die throughout History, I mean God forbid the Church is the Church . And to think that another Temple is to be built and to use Christians to Help fund it Zionists,I believe is Blasphemus. I wish that most people could Debate without argument, because I dont think the Lord wants it that way. I will always apppreciate the Different views even though I hold to another, I just wish Men would do the study for them selves in stead of regurgitating what they have heard and studied from others. Eschatology isn't as wound up and difficult as its made to be. And since we dont have another book to be written, then Revelation should be able to be Grasped from Scripture itself.Other whys we have a very Subjective book. When most of Rev is in Scripture for what I have come away with. I am greatful and thankful for what I have learned in the last eight yrs and will write about it. I will pose just one question here and that is this, Why would God Tell Daniel to Seal His book (scroll) up for the time was so far off (approx 536 yrs) and tell John not to seal His book up for the Time is at hand. 2,000 plus yrs, When in reality its not to be fulfilled for Millenials away in the future times. Anyway I said I would only ask one question, so there it is. God Bless Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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59 | does God intend for us to pay tithes | Malachi | RC Scrolls | 190503 | ||
Just wanted to add here. Since all the Older testament symbolisim are shadows of things to come, and the fulfillment is greater than the original then one would have to say that if the old Testament Tithe was a Tenth then how much Greater shoud we give now with such a great a Salvation. Love in Christ Jesus RC |
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60 | Interpreting Revelation | Revelation | RC Scrolls | 190488 | ||
Please let me know who you have found that was Pre trib before Darby Etc. I havent had any luck and if you have I would like to know as well. Thank you very much. Love in Christ Jesus RC PS I am allways Open to what you think. Please just provide some proof. |
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