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41 | People on other planets? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 168940 | ||
Now I don’t want you to take any offense to this, but are you saying that all that universe out there is all for decoration? Not that that’s beyond God. But it just seems to me anyway, that God would be creating millions of inhabited worlds. I don’t really have any scripture to back that up though. Regarding your comment on how probable it is that there’s another planet inhabitable like Earth, probability wouldn’t be an issue where God is concerned. Not that I’m disagreeing with you. Oh well, this may be one of those “Questions for Heaven”. Ocelot |
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42 | Is God Sovereign in the Church today? | Rom 1:22 | Ocelot | 168524 | ||
Sorry about that JRM. I’m actually under the weather so to speak, so that will be my excuse for thinking that you addressed your post to Mark :-) My point wasn’t to prove the literal Genesis account (though that’s what I believe). My point was just to show that Evolutionists really don’t know what’s going on. The deeper they look, the more things they find that simply can’t be explained by chance. So why do “we” Christians feel as though we must answer to them? Why must our beliefs be reconciled with theirs, when they don’t truly know what they believe? It irritates me to think that there are theologians out there that have this overwhelming urge to make Darwinian evolution and the Bible fit together. They can’t do it, and they just come off looking like emotional weaklings who use religion as a crutch (which is what Evolutionists have accused Creationists of being all along). So in effect they “prove” the evolutionist point. It just bugs me. Thanks for correcting me. I’ll try not to write anymore while I’m sick. ;-) Ocelot |
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43 | Is God Sovereign in the Church today? | Rom 1:22 | Ocelot | 168522 | ||
In regards to the quote that you used from the letter, I believe that "the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist." Darwinian Evolution is not science. It has NEVER been observed. Sure there is such a thing as MICRO evolution, variations within kinds, but MACRO evolution has NEVER been observed. Ocelot |
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44 | Is God Sovereign in the Church today? | Rom 1:22 | Ocelot | 168521 | ||
Notice where he says "I do not endorse this letter." I'd say that he doesn't endorse that letter. Ocelot |
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45 | Is God Sovereign in the Church today? | Rom 1:22 | Ocelot | 168501 | ||
Along these lines, here are some quotes from some NON-Christian Scientists "The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation...His religious feeling takes the form of rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals the intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection. - Albert Einstein (theoretical physicist) "The laws of science, as we know them at the present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electron charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton to the electron... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development for life." - Stephen Hawking “The exquisite order displayed by our scientific understanding of the physical world calls for the divine.” - Vera Kistiakowsky (physicist) And my personal favorite… "For the scientist who has lived his dream by faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries." - Robert Jastrow (astronomer and physicist) "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard." Psalm 19:1-3 Ocelot |
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46 | ... | Rom 3:23 | Ocelot | 168242 | ||
Dear Maearl What Doc has said is correct. I would also like to add something. God said, in Jeremiah 29:13 “You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.” There is a Truth our there. And yes, there is error. Lots of it. But the promise of Jeremiah 29:13 is that you WILL find God. But the condition to that promise is that you must search with ALL your heart. In Revelation 3:20 Christ says “Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.” There is an enemy out who would like nothing better than for you to become frustrated and give up. But like Doc said, the fact that this even concerns you is proof that the Holy Spirit is working in your heart. Don’t give up. You mentioned your sins. Jesus said "…It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Mark 2:17. I’ve done MANY things in my life that I hate. Many things that horrify me. But you and I are fortunate. Christ came to save people just like us. The apostle Paul, in his first letter to Timothy wrote “…Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all.” 1 Timothy 1:15 I’m sure you’ve done many things in your life that you regret. So have I. For that matter, so had Paul. But Christ’s blood can cover those sins. Don’t give up. I'll pray for you. With Christian Love Ocelot |
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47 | Loving others as though they R better | Prov 18:22 | Ocelot | 167785 | ||
Doc, is that your OFFICIAL theological response? :-) | ||||||
48 | Mark of the Beast | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 167234 | ||
So Doc, what are YOUR beliefs on this issue of the Mark of the Beast, if you don’t mind me asking? It’s not that I even disagree with you, I’m just very curious. Ocelot |
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49 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167036 | ||
Don’t worry about it Sam. There’s no need to apologize. Just about everything I say on this forum attracts controversy plenty, without your help :-) In Christian Love, Ocelot |
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50 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167014 | ||
Thanks for the info, Doc. Ocelot |
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51 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167007 | ||
Hi Mark. I’m not going to say that my belief is more attractive than yours. I’m not going to get into a debate with you. I’ve stated what I believe and why at the request of Sam here. I actually tried to avoid it for fear of an argument. I’m not trying to “lead him astray”. I will add however that I DO believe that I could lose my salvation. I’m not some pompous hypocrite. With Christian Love, Ocelot. P.S. Mark, it is always a pleasure to converse with you, even when we don’t agree. You always seem to display a true Christian character of love. That is not always the case with some posters, I’m afraid myself included. |
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52 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167004 | ||
The first definition you gave is basically what I believe. That we “can remain sinless for a period of time, which might end when we then sin again”. Sorry, I didn’t make that clear. | ||||||
53 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167002 | ||
Hi Sam. Here’s my understanding of the issue. First of all I believe that Christ DID die for ALL sins. Does that mean that everyone will be saved? No, only the ones who accept His forgiveness. So is it possible for Christ to die for ALL sins and yet NOT all sins to be forgiven. Obviously it is. A person may then quote a verse like 2 Corinthians 5:17, that says “Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.” Once again we run into a difference of beliefs as far as once saved always saved goes. So I’ll just move on. Secondly you asked, “Is a sinless life here on earth, while living in this human body, obtainable?” This is another area where I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with me. I believe that it is, but not by any human power. I believe that when we “…confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9. I believe that when we confess our sins and accept Christ’s grace, we are sinless before God. I believe that the Bible calls us MANY times to holiness and perfection. But we certainly can’t do it of our own power or ability. 2 Corinthians 7:1 “Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” I’m not quite sure what you asked on your last question, but I’ll do my best to respond. I believe that the Holy Spirit will convict us of sin that we need to confess. John 16:8 "And He[The Holy Spirit], when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin…” So that’s what I believe on the subject. As you pointed out, I’m not the only one who believes this way. But then again, I’m probably not in the majority either. I hope that answers your questions. If you have any others, feel free to ask. In Christian Love, Ocelot |
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54 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166994 | ||
Thank you, Doc, for your insight. But what you are describing sounds to me like a god who, in your word, “decrees” that sin should exist. And that in its existence it should destroy, maim, harm, mar and twist his creation. And not stopping at that, but it should ultimately cost the life of his son. When foreseeing the outcome of sin, does God diminish His sovereignty by saying to His creation “I will not force you to remain loyal to Me. I love you, so I will allow you to choose to fill your life with pride. I would not force you to stay away from the tree that I told you not to eat of. If I force you, then love ceases to be love. But rather, when you fall, I will make a Way of redemption. It will be VERY costly. But it is because of love that I will do this.”? Can’t you here Him crying out “…I have set before you life and death…” “So choose life in order that you may live…” Deuteronomy 30:19 I believe that it was Phillip Yancey that said “The guards at a labor camp can force their prisoners to do many things. They can force them to eat human excrement, kill and bury their mother and renounce their faith. But they can NEVER force the prisoners to love them.” Love cannot be forced, or it ceases to be love. I see in what you’re telling me a god that leaves no options for his creations. He chooses the option for them. He forces them. I understand that you believe that what I’m saying is an attack on god’s character. You believe that what I am saying assails God’s sovereignty. But I see what YOU are saying as an attack on God’s character of love. We may simply have to agree to disagree and wait for heaven when we can hear the truth from God Himself. Perhaps I’m reading too much into what you’re saying. Perhaps what I’m saying seems like semantics. Perhaps. If so, then forgive my misjudgment. But I think that we should end this conversation as it’s dangerously close to being a debate. I’ll refrain from saying anymore on this topic. In Christian Love, Ocelot |
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55 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166964 | ||
Hi Sam. I’d be glad to answer your questions. I believe as you do that the Bible is the final authority on all things. This is going to be a long response, as I hope to cover most everything that I believe on the topic. First of all, I believe that sin separates us from God. “Behold, the LORD'S hand is not so short That it cannot save; Nor is His ear so dull that it cannot hear. But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God” Isaiah 59:1, 2 I believe that everyone is not only born with a sinful nature, but that we have all sinned, and because of that sinful heritage which Adam left us with, we are condemned to die. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” Romans 3:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 6:23 But I believe that God did not leave us in that state of hopelessness, but rather, out of His great love for each and every one of us, He sent His son to die on the cross that “Whosoever believes in Him might not perish but have everlasting life.” John 3:16. I believe that salvation is a free gift, and one that we can by no means earn through any amount of works. I believe that we accept the grace that God gives us through faith. I believe that faith is an act of will. Here’s where my beliefs on this subject differ from most of the others on this forum. I do not believe that once you’re saved, you’re always saved. James 5:19, 20 “My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.” See also Gal. 5:4; Heb. 6:4-6; 1 Cor. 15: 1, 2; 2 Pet. 2:20-22; 1 Cor. 9:27; Rev. 3:5; Heb. 3:12, 13 I do not believe that 1 John 1:9 is just for the lost. When Christ told His disciples how to pray, He prayed this line “And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.” Matthew 6:12. Asking for forgiveness is something that was not only modeled by Christ, I believe it was commanded. Now I do not think that keeping Gods commands will save us, not by any stretch of the imagination. It is a gift from God. But I believe that we separate ourselves from His grace when we willingly sin. That’s where 1 John 1:9 comes in. As for all the finality mentioned by BradK in those verses, I don’t have a problem with them at all. I believe that Christ DID make the FINAL sacrifice. He paid it ALL. We pay NOTHING. All we do is accept the grace that God offers to us free of charge. Romans 6:1, 2 “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?” Okay, so this wasn’t quite as exhaustive as I would have liked. I ran out of time. I try and post on this site while I’m at work during my lunch brake and other brakes. And I don’t have internet at home. So this will have to do for now. If you need any more info on what I believe in this matter, then just let me know. With Christian love, Ocelot P.S. I realize this is going to get some folks upset. I would like to point out that Sam asked me what I believed. So I am answering him. |
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56 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166920 | ||
Hello, Sam. BradK and I have differing views on this issue. And so as not to try and convert you, I’ll just say that according to BradK, (and probably most of the people on this forum) “I was wrong.” Ocelot |
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57 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166916 | ||
Dear Doc, I apologize for the false accusation. Please forgive my obfuscation, as I did not mean such. Let me state my position plainly. I do not believe God predestined sin. I do not believe that God, in allowing His creations to commit sin failed to be sovereign. If an earthly father has the ability to force his will on his children, but allows them to make their own choices because he loves them, it does not detract from his ability to control them. In the same way, I believe God, setting aside His sovereignty so to speak, and allowing His creations to make poor choices that lead to sin and ultimately to death, does not detract from His sovereignty. Because He CAN control His creation does not mean that He WILL control His creation. “God is Love” 1 John 4:16. Love is not a characteristic possessed by God, but rather it is His primary characteristic. The verse does not say “God is loving” but “God IS LOVE”. Those are my beliefs in the matter. I realize you may not agree. You don’t have to agree. That’s the beauty of freedom of choice. : ) Ezekiel 33:11 "Say to them, 'As I live!' declares the Lord GOD, 'I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways! Why then will you die, O house of Israel?' Doc, I do appreciate your input in this matter. Ocelot |
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58 | Why does Satan believe he can win? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166910 | ||
Doc, correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you pushing a denominational bias here? Namely Calvinism? I believe the rules are quite specific about that. Ocelot |
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59 | Why so many Bibles? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166669 | ||
Language itself has changed. If you could see the ORIGINAL King James Version, you’d have a VERY hard time reading it. As to why it was changed, I guess some people got together and said “Hey. This King James Version is hard for a lot of people to understand. Let’s make it easier.” Ocelot |
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60 | Why so many Bibles? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166664 | ||
So do you suggest posting ushers at the doors to check for versions that are not uniform for the congregation? I think that you’ll find that it would get way too sticky a situation to try and uniform the version for a church. Do YOU have a suggestion on how to solve the issue? Ocelot |
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