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41 | Which "land of Moab" in Ruth? | Ruth 1:1 | Jim Estes | 193752 | ||
Hi MP, Thank you for your response. Before going into the “land of Moab” (pun intended!), I would like to address your comments as to the lineage of Ruth. You stated, “to begin with it is generally accepted that she was of Moabite descent.” No question about it! However, being generally accepted does not mean it is correct or scriptural! I would hate to be confined as to what is generally accepted! You stated, “From the text, as the ‘Moabitess’ she must be considered a descendant of Moab.” It could also mean she was from Moab, the “land of Moab” or the “plains of Moab.” Just as Naomi and her family were Ephrathites (Ruth 1:2) or Paul and Silas were Romans (Acts 16:37). You cited Ruth 1:16, “But Ruth said, "Do not urge me to leave you or turn back from following you; for where you go, I will go, and where you lodge, I will lodge. Your people shall be my people, and your God, my God.” Your comment: “…she (Ruth) removes all doubt. For certainly no Israelite would deny that her god was the God of Israel and swear Him allegiance with the same breath.” You have made a good point. However, the word “God” is translated from the word “elohim.” “Elohim” can also be translated as “Judge” as in a human Judge. It is used that way in Exodus 22: 8,9. This all took place “In the days when the judges governed” (Ruth 1:1). More telling is verse 17, wherein Ruth uses the name LORD, translated Jehovah. Jehovah was the covenant name given to Israel in Exodus 6:3. It is doubtful that the writer of Ruth would have recorded Ruth as using the name Jehovah had she not been an Israelite and had every right to do so. Next, let me address your statement, “Indeed the references regarding the land or plains across from Jericho are not what the scripture indicates as Moab. “ You then mention a scripture that does exactly that, Deuteronomy 32:49, and indicate there are other scriptures that do the same. This seems to be a bit of flawed logic. If that were true, then you would have to say the same about the passages in Ruth. The land between the Arnon and Jabbok Rivers was not part of the land promised to Israel. After the Amorites were conquered, the tribes of Gad and Reuben asked for the land because it was a very good area for livestock. Since it was not part of the “Promised Land”, I think that may be why it retained the name of Moab, but there is not doubt it retained the name. Below are the scriptures which mention “the land of Moab” in context and if it applies to the area of Gad and Reuben or the actual nation of Moab. SCRIPTURE THAT APPLIES TO THE NATION OF MOAB: Judges 11:18 Then they went through the wilderness and around the land of Edom and the land of Moab, and came to the east side of the land of Moab, and they camped beyond the Arnon; but they did not enter the territory of Moab, for the Arnon was the border of Moab. SCRIPTURE THAT APPLIES TO THE TERRITORIES OF GAD AND REUBEN: Numbers 21:20 and from Bamoth to the valley that is in the land of Moab, at the top of Pisgah which overlooks the wasteland. Deuteronomy 1:5 Across the Jordan in the land of Moab, Moses undertook to expound this law, saying, Deuteronomy 29:1 These are the words of the covenant which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the sons of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant which He had made with them at Horeb. Deuteronomy 32:49 Go up to this mountain of the Abarim, Mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab opposite Jericho, and look at the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the sons of Israel for a possession. Deuteronomy 34:5-6 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. And He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no man knows his burial place to this day. Deuteronomy 34:6 And He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no man knows his burial place to this day. OTHER REFERENCES TO MOAB: After Gad and Reuben were carried away into captivity, the land was retaken by Moab and was still referred to as the “land of Moab” in Chapter 48 of Jeremiah. Joshua 13:32 These are the territories which Moses apportioned for an inheritance in the plains of Moab, beyond the Jordan at Jericho to the east. Judges 3:28 He said to them, "Pursue them, for the LORD has given your enemies the Moabites into your hands." So they went down after him and seized the fords of the Jordan opposite Moab, and did not allow anyone to cross. See also Numbers 22:1, Numbers 26:3, Numbers 26:63, Numbers 31:12, Numbers 33:48. The list goes on. Thanks again, it is fun and informative. Someday, we will know it all! Jim |
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42 | Which "land of Moab" in Ruth? | Ruth 1:1 | Jim Estes | 193693 | ||
Hi Doc, My question was not in regards to the linage of Christ, but to the “land of Moab.” Run a Bible word search for the phrase “land of Moab” and you will find it is used most often to describe the area between the Arnon and the Jabbok Rivers. These descriptions were made at a time that the area was possessed and under the control of the tribes of Gad and Reuben, after Israel had defeated the Amorites, who had taken the land from the King of Moab. Are we to ignore these scriptures? I find it difficult to believe, that due to famine in the land, Elimelech, Naomi and their two sons traveled across the Jordon and through the “land of Moab,” then crossed the Arnon River and entered into the hostile territory of the Nation of Moab. They stayed there ten years without being molested and intermarried with Moab women in direct violation of God’s Law. When Naomi returned to Judah, the Moabitess Ruth was hailed and compared to Rachel and Leah. No one gave a second thought that Ruth was a Moab by birth, and intermarriage was not an issue again until Ezra 9-10! It appears, according to scripture, that Elimelech, Naomi and their two sons traveled to the “land of Moab” across the Jordon. This land was possessed by the Israelite tribes of Gad and Reuben and was very well suited for livestock. The sons intermarried with these tribes. After the men all died, Naomi returned to Judah with Ruth, called a Moabitess because she was from the “land of Moab” and not a Moabitess by birth. (Not an uncommon practice.) Ruth was welcomed by all and compared to Rachel and Leah. I believe the Bible interprets itself. It looks pretty clear to me, but I would be interested in scripture that shows otherwise. I would like to see an explanation of why the “land of Moab” mentioned is Ruth is different from the other scriptures which describe the “land of Moab” as the land between the Arnon and Jabbok Rivers. An explanation that is consistent with scripture. If you do not feel this is worthy of discussion, please do not feel an obligation to respond. Yes, our God is an amazing God! Thanks, Jim |
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43 | Which "land of Moab" in Ruth? | Ruth 1:1 | Jim Estes | 193582 | ||
Hi Steve, Thank you for your response and for answering the call of my questions. I’m afraid that your statements, “There was only one land of Moab” and “The plains of Moab were between Ammon and Moab, but under Moabite control” are not accurate. I think we can agree that the “plains of Moab” are located between the Arnon River on the south, the Jabbok River on the north, the Jordon River on the west and the Ammonites on the east. Reference: The Holman Bible Atlas, plates 32, 36, and 42. This same area is referred to several times in scripture as “the land of Moab.” This area was part of the nation of Moab. But, before Israel arrived from Egypt, this part of Moab, from the Arnon to the Jabbok was lost to Sihon, King of the Amorites. When Israel arrived, they asked Sihon to let them pass through his land. Sihon refused and then made war against Israel. “Israel struck him with the edge of the sword and took possession of the land from the Arnon to the Jabbok, as far as the sons of Ammon.” These facts are detailed in Numbers 21: 13-26. This put the nation of Moab in such fear that they hired Balaam to curse Israel! Then the land was given to the tribes of Reuben and Gad as an inheritance if they would help the other tribes conquer the Promised Land. Why did Reuben and Gad want the “plains of Moab”, AKA: “the land of Moab”? The land was good land for livestock. Therefore, it must have had plentiful grass and water. Numbers 23:49-50 “They camped by the Jordan, from Beth-jeshimoth as far as Abel-shittim in the plains of Moab. Then the LORD spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by the Jordan opposite Jericho, saying,” Deuteronomy 1:5 “Across the Jordan in the land of Moab, Moses undertook to expound this law, saying,” Deuteronomy 29:1 “These are the words of the covenant which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the sons of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant which He had made with them at Horeb.” Deuteronomy 32: 48-49 “The LORD spoke to Moses that very same day, saying, Go up to this mountain of the Abarim, Mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab opposite Jericho, and look at the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the sons of Israel for a possession. Deuteronomy 34:1-6 “Now Moses went up from the plains of Moab to Mount Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, which is opposite Jericho And the LORD showed him all the land, Gilead as far as Dan, and all Naphtali and the land of Ephraim and Manasseh, and all the land of Judah as far as the western sea, and the Negev and the plain in the valley of Jericho, the city of palm trees, as far as Zoar. Then the LORD said to him, "This is the land which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying, 'I will give it to your descendants'; I have let you see it with your eyes, but you shall not go over there." So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. And He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no man knows his burial place to this day.” So there is a “land of Moab,” containing the “plains of Moab,” above the Arnon River. This land was possessed by the tribes of Reuben and Gad at the time of Ruth. The nation of Moab was located below the Arnon. To which did Elimelech, Naomi and their sons travel? What scripture supports the nation of Moab? Or where am I wrong above? Thanks again, Jim |
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44 | John 11:16 | John 11:16 | Jim Estes | 188321 | ||
Hi Azure, Indeed, Bethany is located in the Judean region about two miles southeast of Jerusalem. John 11:18 "Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles off." Today Bethany is an Arab Muslim and Arab Christian village of about 3600 population. It is on the southeast slopes of the Mount of Olives. Hope this was helpful. Jim Estes |
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45 | John 11:16 | John 11:16 | Jim Estes | 188320 | ||
Hi Azure, Indeed, Bethany is located in the Judean region about two miles southeast of Jerusalem. John 11:18 "Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles off." Today Bethany is an Arab Muslim and Arab Christian village of about 3600 population. It is on the southeast slopes of the Mount of Olives. Hope this was helpful. Jim Estes |
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46 | John 11:16 | John 11:16 | Jim Estes | 188319 | ||
Hi Azure, Indeed, Bethany is located in the Judean region about two miles southeast of Jerusalem. John 11:18 "Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles off." Today Bethany is an Arab Muslim and Arab Christian village of about 3600 population. It is on the southeast slopes of the Mount of Olives. Hope this was helpful. Jim Estes |
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47 | Does Romans 3:10-11 Include the Saints? | Rom 3:11 | Jim Estes | 177902 | ||
Hi Mark, Many thanks for a very clear and concise answer. This is very helpful. Yours in Christ, Jim |
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48 | The Rock of Israel in the Wilderness? | Gen 28:18 | Jim Estes | 177473 | ||
Hi CDBJ, I have no idea, but that is an excellent question! I just know that the Lords' arm is not too short! (Numbers 11:23) Jim |
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49 | The Rock of Israel in the Wilderness? | Gen 28:18 | Jim Estes | 177454 | ||
Hi Searcher, You wrote: “His vow (vv 22-22) is trying to make a deal with God.” And 20 years later the Lord remembered that vow in Genesis 31:13, “I am the God of Bethel, where you anointed the pillar and where you vowed a vow to Me. Now arise, get out from this land and return to your native land.” You wrote: “Again it is a "spiritual rock" not phyiscal. Be careful how you read a verse ... understand the context.” You did not answer the question that I asked. I fully understand that 1 Corinthians 10:4 refers to a “spiritual Rock” and that Rock is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is not a literal stone. There is a literal stone from which the Israelites were given drink during their time in the wilderness and that literal rock is clearly symbolic of Jesus Christ. Scripture records two instances were the Lord supernaturally provided water to the Israelites from a literal rock. Is it the same stone that Jacob anointed and named “the house of God?” If not, then why did Jacob-Israel refer to Jesus Christ as “the Rock of Israel” as recorded in Genesis 49:24 and for what purpose did Jacob anoint or dedicate this stone? Jim Estes |
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50 | What do these 430 years mean? | Gen 15:13 | Jim Estes | 177140 | ||
Hi Bruce, Thank you for a very thoughtful response and my apology for taking so long to answer back. You are correct that Ephraim could have been alive to mourn 7th generation grandchildren. His great-grandfather Isaac did live to 180 years. However, life spans were declining after the flood. Jacob lived to about 147 years and Joseph to 110 years. While possible that Ephraim lived to be 160, it is very doubtful. Plus, this still does not alter the fact that the scripture states that Ephraim was their father. Galatians 16 is clearly referring to God’s promise to Abraham that “in your Seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.” It does not mention Jacob or is there a promise made to Jacob using this language. This covenant was made at the time of the Passover of Isaac. Even by your calculations, the Sons of Israel would have been in Canaan 33 years and Egypt 397 years, not 30 years and 400 years. The interpretation of the Israelites being in Egypt for 400 years cannot be correct because it is in direct conflict with other scriptures, i.e. the genealogy of Moses. I think the correct interpretation would be that the Sons of Israel left Egypt exactly 430 years after the Passover of Isaac. It draws the connection between the 3 Passovers and is consistent with other scriptures. Another conflict that must be resolved is the one of Joseph being 30 years old when he began the service to Pharaoh. This would be just 13 years after his arrival and 9 years before his family arrived. I think when the Bible states "Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt" (Gen 41:46) it represents the 30 years from Joseph's calling by God. This would indicate that Joseph was 56 years old (17 plus 30 plus 7 plus 2) when Jacob arrived at age 130. Jacob was therefore 74 years old when Joseph was born. This would mean that Jacob was 60 years old when his parents sent him to Padan Aram, as opposed to 77 years old. A clear example of this type of calling is encountered in 1 Samuel 13:1 talking about King Saul. A literal translation reads as follows; 1Sam 13:1 A son of a year Saul when he became king .... The text makes it clear Saul was not one year old, yet on the surface this verse appears to be stating he was. This verse is actually stating that Saul was crowned king in the first year since being called by God. Saul became king in the same year he was anointed by God as commander over God's inheritance (1 Sam 10:1). How can we determine if Joseph was in Egypt for 22 years or 39 years before Jacob and his brothers arrived? We need to look at what the Bible records as happening during those years while Joseph was in Egypt. Joseph was 17 years old when he was sold into slavery by his brothers. His younger brother Benjamin was an infant or very young child. Joseph was born shortly after his half-sister, Dinah (Gen 30:21-25), at the end of Jacob's 14 years of service to Laban. Jacob then worked an additional 6 years (Gen 31:41). After that Jacob moved his family to Shechem. At Shechem Dinah was defiled (Gen 34). She was of an age to be married, 14-16 years old. Then Jacob was told by God to go up to Bethel and dwell (Gen 35:1). On this journey Benjamin was born (Gen 35:18-19). When Benjamin arrived in Egypt he would have been about 22-24 years old or 39-41 years old. Benjamin is recorded as having ten sons upon his arrival in Egypt (Gen 46:21). So Benjamin either married very young or it was 30 years from Joseph’s calling when he stood before Pharaoh. Also, after Joseph was sold into slavery, his brother Judah married a Canaanite woman (Gen 38). They had three sons who all grew to be adults. This would take at least 20 years. Then Judah had twin sons by Tamar. Their names were Perez and Zerah (Gen 38:27-30). When Perez arrived in Egypt, he had two sons. This would not be possible within 22 years, but is possible in 39 years. Therefore, the amount of time Jacob and his sons were actually in Canaan was 50 years, not 33. I enjoyed your website. You made some good points which I had not thought about previously. Yours in Christ, Jim Estes |
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51 | What do these 430 years mean? | Gen 15:13 | Jim Estes | 176818 | ||
Hi Bruce, In your previous note you stated: “2) the Massoretic Text and the LXX have the period referring only to the sons of Israel.” Can you give the exact scripture quotes in the Massoretic Text and the LXX that you are referring to so I can compare them? Otherwise, it is hard to understand exactly what you mean. Thank you in advance. You stated: “3) Even if Jacob and sons were in Canaan longer than 30 years, it can't be more than 39 - 6 or 33 years . . .” That is an excellent point! IF Joseph was 39 when the Hebrews arrived in Egypt and Joseph was 6 when they left Padan-Aram, then they would have been in Canaan no longer than 33 years. However, I would like to see the scripture quotes before I respond to this. You stated: “4) Ezer and Elead came after there were seven generations of Ephraimites, this could not be less that 120 years verses your 15 years.” 1 Chronicles 7:22 says that Ephraim was their father and that he mourned many days. Ezer and Elead were the sons of Ephraim, not Shuthelah. They were not born after 7 generations or Ephraim could not have mourned for them. You stated: “In acts 13:17-20 Refers to the period of about 450 years in Egypt up until Israel was fully settled in Israel. 400 years in Egypt plus 49 years wandering, conquest, and settling is 449 about 450 years Paul mentions.” This period of time began when “The God of this people Israel selected our forefathers. . .” I’m not sure how this time of 450 years plays out. However, Paul is very clear in Galatians 3:16-17. The 430 years started with the covenant with Abraham that in “your Seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.” This is recorded in Genesis 22:17. The 430 years ended with the giving of the law, the Ten Commandments, shortly after the Exodus from Egypt, which took place 430 years to the very day. The Passover of Isaac for the Ram to the Passover of the firstborn of Israel for the Lamb was exactly 430 years. How could the Israelites have been in Egypt for 400 years when the 430 years began even before the birth of Jacob-Israel? Also, as you noted, Moses was 80 years old when he led the Exodus. Moses was the son of Amram, who lived to be 137 years old (Genesis 6:20). Amram was the son of Kohath, who lived to be 133 years old (Genesis 6:18). Kohath was living when the Hebrews came into Egypt (Genesis 46:11). So, even if Kohath was an infant when he arrived in Egypt and Amram was born in the last year of Kohath’s life and Moses was born in the last year of Amram’s life, you cannot get to 400 years of the Israelites being in Egypt. 133 plus 137 plus 80 equals 350 years max. You have made excellent points, but all the scriptures cited must be in harmony. If they are not in harmony, then we are failing to give them the correct interpretation. If the Israelites were in Egypt for 400 years, then how can the above scriptures be brought into harmony? Yours in Christ, Jim Estes |
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52 | What was the Name of Lots wife? | Gen 19:15 | Jim Estes | 176711 | ||
Correction to my last note: According to Strong's Concordance Iscah means "Watchful" not "Palm Tree." | ||||||
53 | What was the Name of Lots wife? | Gen 19:15 | Jim Estes | 176710 | ||
Hi Searcher, You are correct that Iscah is not mentioned in Genesis 11:31, but neither is Nahor or Milcah. I think it as likely that Iscah left Ur of the Chaldees as Nahor and Milcah. The context of Genesis 12:29 indicates to me that Iscah was a daughter of Haran, sister of Milcah, rather than a brother of Lot. The name means “Palm Tree” according to Strong’s. Strong’s also says she is the “daughter of Haran,” drawing the same inference. Yours in Christ, Jim Estes |
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54 | Ruth - Born of Moab or Living in Moab? | Ruth 3:11 | Jim Estes | 176690 | ||
Hi Searcher, Hope this isn't too far off topic. You have Tamar listed as a non-Jewish mother. I think you mean non-Hebrew mother, since at that time the only Jews were Judah and his 3 sons. Regardless, the Bible does not say that Tamar was a Canaanite. Genesis 38:6 merely states,"Now Judah took a wife for Er, his firstborn: her name was Tamar." We do know that Judah's first three sons were the sons of a Canaanite mother. We cannot say the same for Perez and Zerah. Yours in Chirst, Jim Estes |
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55 | What do these 430 years mean? | Gen 15:13 | Jim Estes | 176073 | ||
Hi Got Truth?, I explain in the tread of this discussion why I believe the 430 years is from the offering of Isaac by Abraham and the 400 years is from the birth of Jacob. If the 430 years is from Abraham crossing the Euphrates at age 75, then what is the 400 years? Thanks, Jim Estes |
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56 | Jewish population, why so small? | Gen 15:5 | Jim Estes | 174522 | ||
Doc, I'm sorry you feel that way and my sincere apologies for offending you. That was not my intent. It was my intent to broaden my understanding of scripture. Many of the points I made were the result of reading over scripture which you cited, i.e. Hosea 1. However, I will take your comments to heart and in the future just make it a note and ask for comments. I did not realize how it was coming across and I will be more careful in the future. Please accept my sincere apologies. Yours in Christ, Jim Estes |
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57 | Jewish population, why so small? | Gen 15:5 | Jim Estes | 174515 | ||
Thanks Wisdom111 and Doc for your answers. Wisdom 111 you say that God fulfilled his promise to Abraham, but you do not tell me how he did it. If God promised the Jews they would be so numerous, then why are they so few? Doc, I take your answer to be that the promise has been fulfilled in Abraham’s countless spiritual children, therefore it is not necessary to fulfill the promise in the actual Jewish people. I would disagree. I believe that God has done exactly what he promised. But, we are just looking in the wrong place if we think that the world population of Jews, less than 15 million, fulfills the promise God made to Abraham. (Numbers 11:23) Ishmael’s descendants are much more numerous, yet he was not subject to the promise. The physical descendants of Abraham, countless as the stars, may be representative of his spiritual children, but it does not negate the promise of countless physical descendants. In the verse prior to Gen 15:15 God tells Abraham that his heir “shall come from your own body . . .” From the context of 15:15 I can’t imagine that God did not mean physical descendants. Also, God set a sign of Abraham’s physical descendants, which is circumcision. Gen 17:11 This is a sign of the Covenant regarding his countless descendants and therefore cannot be speaking of “spiritual children.” God tells Abraham numerous times that his descendants will be countless and that he will be “the father of many nations.” I think you can call these promises of race as opposed to grace. In the Bible, the term Jew is used to describe either a descendant of Judah or a citizen of the Southern Kingdom of Judah. The term is never used to describe the Northern Kingdom of Israel. The promises of “countless descendants” and “father of many nations” were to be fulfilled by the Northern Kingdom of Israel and not by the Jews of the Southern Kingdom of Judah. The tribes of Joseph were of the Northern Kingdom and when Jacob-Israel blessed Ephraim, son of Joseph, he said, “and his offspring shall become a multitude of nations.” Gen 48:19 In the Book of Hosea, written about 722 BC, Hosea writes the following about the Northern Kingdom of Israel at 1:10, “Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or numbered; and instead of it being said to them, You are not My people, it shall be said to them, Sons of the Living God!” This was to be the status of the Children of Israel (the Northern Kingdom) sometime after they were carried off into captivity. These promises are fulfilled in the descendants of the Northern Kingdom of Israel. Who are these “multitude of nations” with “countless” descendants of Abraham. They were first told they were not God’s people, but are now “Sons of the Living God.” Could this mean Christians? These countries practice circumcision, are Christian, and have a multitude of people? There we will find the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham. These countries constitute the modern Israel and are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The modern state of Israel is not ancient Israel, but ancient Judah. Someday “the children of Judah and the children of Israel will be gathered together and appoint themselves one head . . .” Hosea 1:11, Isaiah 11 Yours in Christ, Jim Estes |
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58 | What about "the moon" in Joseph's dream? | Gen 37:9 | Jim Estes | 172766 | ||
It could not have been Leah either, since she also died before Jacob was reunited with Joseph. Nor can I find scripture that says that Jacob ever bowed down to Joseph. Even Jacob pondered over the meaning. Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah. Gen 37:11 Joseph's brothers envied him and were jealous of him, but his father observed the saying and pondered over it. Yours in Christ, Jim Estes |
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59 | Israel in Egypt 430 yrs? | Gen 15:13 | Jim Estes | 172660 | ||
The key to understanding the 400 years and 430 years can be found in Galatians 3:16-17. The Law, as stated in verse 17, began 430 years after the covenant. The Law was given shortly after the exodus. Exodus 12:41 states: “At the end of the 430 years, even that very day, all the hosts of the Lord went out of Egypt.” The exodus out of Egypt occurred on the day of the Passover, exactly 430 years after an important event and 400 years after another. What were these events? We know from Gal. 3:17 the 430 years was from the time of the covenant. But which covenant, at which time? Gal. 3:16 states: “Now the promises were decreed and made to Abraham and his Seed. He does not say, And to seeds, as if referring to many persons, but, And to your Seed, obviously referring to one individual, Who is Christ.” The term “Seed” as used in this context, meaning Jesus Christ, is not found until Gen. 22: 18: “And in your Seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed and bless themselves, because you have heard and obeyed My voice.” What had Abraham heard and obeyed? This was right after Abraham had shown his intent to offer Isaac as a burnt offering to the Lord. However, Isaac was passed over. 430 years later the Israelites were passed over in Egypt. Later, again on the anniversary of this date, Christ became our Passover Lamb. So what happened 30 years later? The birth of Jacob-Israel, who would be a stranger dwelling as a temporary resident in Canaan and later in Egypt, where his descendants (known by his name) would be mistreated and enslaved. Total time in Egypt 270 years. This also means that Isaac was 30 years old when he was offered. A “young man” (Gen 22:5) who died when he was 180 years old (Gen 35:29). According to my calculations, the Israelites lived in Egypt for 216 years after the dead of Joseph. So, it very well could be that they were enslaved for 210 years. |
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60 | Jacob's age when Joseph was born | Genesis | Jim Estes | 172651 | ||
Hello Searcher, This is from my own study. However, I do wish to thank Mr. Colin Heath of Australia (BibleInsight) for the information concerning the calling of King Saul. Colin came to the same conclusion regarding Jacob's age, but for other reasons. Jim Estes |
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