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41 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51900 | ||
Wasn't it you who brought up the thief on the cross, to get around being baptized, and those on their death bed. I stated that baptism is a (part) of not the whole, of God's salvation plan; you stated, it was not! I'm not in the dark about anything, I just stated a fact about what JESUS SAID! You mentioned that Mark 16:16 was not in (many) of the older manuscripts and therefore its inspiration is questionable, if its in just one, does that mean we throw it out? Back to being in the dark, and out-of-touch, the things were talking about are nearly two thousand years old, like the christian faith, so how can someone be out-of-touch as you call it. Is it because I won't go with the flow of new-age teachings? Then you want to attact the church of Christ, what's up with that? No one attact the church you go to! Last thing, you mentioned that you are making your last post on this subject, but it is the most important subject in life itself, and people need to hear and understand what God's word teaches on this subject, so why stop now? You ask what Christian does not want to obey the command to get baptized? All true christians have been baptized for the remission of their sins! And I mean it when I say All true christians, because they understand what they heard, and believed, they repented of their sin, they confess the name of Jesus Christ, and were baptized for the remission of their sins, and God added them to the church that Jesus purchase with his own blood, and we are living for Him every day. | ||||||
42 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 53953 | ||
"Tim, if only there was some way to cut and paste Ephesians 2:8,9 so that it appeared to be an integral part of either Mark 16:16 or Acts 2:38! Perhaps you could sneak it in and catch the baptismal regenerators by surprise. No? Well, it was just a thought, the only remedy that we haven't tried to get their attention off Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38". --Hank Here's one of your post in agreement with Tim! ID#51241 6/11/02 at 11:09pm. |
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43 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54030 | ||
FORUM MEMBERS: My point about this issue is in reguards to Mark 16:9-20, Hank, tells me that he and members of this forum believe that this portion of scripture are not in the origional manuscrips, therefore (not inspired) He's in agreement with Tim Moran on this issue, therefore I stand on my word! | ||||||
44 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54048 | ||
Is Mark 16:9-20 in your bible? | ||||||
45 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54057 | ||
Let's note this point also, the scholars are not inspired, so should we trust them? And sense this long ending has been found, does it hurt the gospel cause or promote the gospel cause? It's said to be the words of Jesus, that should be a great discovery and bring joy to our hearts. God want's us to have all things that pretain to life and godlyness. Or is this something Satan wanted in the place of God's word? We know what the ending says, is it a good thing, or a bad thing? But the real question should be why did they put it in the bible? Someone throught it should be in there, though it might be debated. And sense we have it let's treat it like all other scriptures. By the way how many scholars voted on placing it in the bibles? |
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46 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54213 | ||
If you or anybody else question what you read in the bible, as you all believe,"Anyone with even an elementary knowledge of Mark's Gospel knows that verses 9-20 of Chapter 16 have long been disputed, that there are extant some four possible endings, and that many scholars feel that these verses may indeed be spurious, because they do not appear in many of the best manuscripts that are extant. (There are no surviving original autographs of any books of Scripture)..... Now, surely you can understand that what Tim has posted and what I have posted regarding the facts of this issue do not constitute in any manner whatever an unbelief in the inspiration of God's word. What we have said -- and all we have said -- is that this portion of Mark's Gospel has been disputed by biblical scholars, and that there are strong reasons to posit that these verses did not appear in the original autograph that Mark penned..... This is a far cry from your original accusation that I did not believe the Bible was inspired. Now that you have the facts straight, I hope, do you still "stand" I do still stand on my word, You use the word (spurious) meaning not genuine;false or illegitimate! And you used the word (Posit) which means: to suppose to be a fact. With that in mind, you are saying not INSPIRED! Not such a far cry is it? |
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47 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54230 | ||
Read the post from Hank, on this issue, to understand what it's all about! | ||||||
48 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54231 | ||
Is it because I proved the point about your view on Mark 16:9-20, that you call spurious and that you believe it to be posit? | ||||||
49 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54233 | ||
Well it has been great to have a chance to talk with you in a setting like this, keep on studing God's word. | ||||||
50 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54238 | ||
Why thank you! | ||||||
51 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54598 | ||
You mentioned how many times something is repeated, this happen to be the end of the gospel according to Mark, the question is, does this ending agree with the other three endings? I think it does agree with the others, and the day of Pentecost sermon that Peter preached. | ||||||
52 | Is denominatalism a sin? | NT general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51980 | ||
1Cor.1:10-16! This information was passed to all the churches in the first centry. | ||||||
53 | Is denominatalism a sin? | NT general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51987 | ||
Tim be real, You know that all the letters that were written were passed around to all the churches at that time! Here's evidents, Col 4:16 "And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea". You are right about the word (denominations) because they did not exist then! |
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54 | Is denominatalism a sin? | NT general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 52047 | ||
What Paul was confounting is divisions, which turned christians away from the Lord. And as you mentioned people do think differently, and that's the problem, we are commanded to speak the same thing, it's not about what we think, it's about what the Lord thinks, that's who we are told to follow. Paul said "be ye followers of me even as I am of Christ" so if a minister stop following Christ, he would have to go or I'll go somewhere else. Denomination were inevitable, but are they right in God's sight, according to His word. | ||||||
55 | Is denominatalism a sin? | NT general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 52058 | ||
I agree with this point, because they spoke the same thing. The denominations of today do not speak the same things. I'm sure you have some history background, when this country was founded, all of the battles among the Quakers and Protestants and other goups, they all taught something different, no one would come to the knowledge of the truth. | ||||||
56 | Why was Christ baptized? | NT general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54261 | ||
I believe that we learn more from the baptism of Jesus than what is listed in answer to this question. 1John 5:4-9, Romans 6:1-23, Jesus's baptism shows us his death, burial and resurrection, as stated in romans 6 ch., Then 1John 5:4-9, mainly vs.6 says "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. Most think that H2O has no part in our salvation, but they forgot when Jesus may mention to Nicodemus that you Must be Born Again, Jesus said it would have to be by water and of the Spirit, to enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:3-12. Then when Jesus was on the cross for our sins, and one of the soldiers in John 19:34 with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. H2O, 1John 5:8 tells us that "there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. Meaning you cannot seperate them, they all work together. Yes H2O has something to do with our salvation, weather we like it or not! This is why the chief priest and the elders would not answer the question Jesus asked them, about the baptism of John, is it from heaven or of men? Matt 21:23-27. We are washed in the blood of the Lamb, How? When we are Baptized in (water)(H2O) for the remission of our sins. Mark 1:4 tells us that John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be Baptized Every One Of You In The NAME OF JESUS CHRIST (FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS), and ye shall receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit. Remission of sins when one is baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. This is the Grace of God through Faith, in which we are saved, some may not believe it, but that doesn't make not true! |
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57 | What does water baptism do? | Matt 3:15 | Grace and Truth | 52626 | ||
What does water baptism do? It fulfills all rightousness. Matt 3:15 It give interance to the kingdom of God. John 3:5 It's for the remission of sins. Acts 2:38 It washes away sins. Acts 22:16 It's when we are buried with Christ. Romans 6:4 It's into the death of Christ. Romans 6:3,4 It causes us to rejoice. Acts 8:39 It agrees with the spirit, and the blood. 1John 5:8 It is a witness on earth. 1John 5:8 It's how we put on Christ. Gal 3:27 It's when God operates on us. Col 2:12 It cleanse us. Eph 5:26 It saves. 1Peter 3:21 |
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58 | What does water baptism do? | Matt 3:15 | Grace and Truth | 52644 | ||
Eph 4:5 There is one baptism. Before you say that this is Holy Spirit baptism, look at vs. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; So it's clearly speaking of water baptism. Many have said this is refering to the Holy Spirit, but it's not, seeing that Paul mentions the Holy Spirit prior to baptism. |
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59 | What does water baptism do? | Matt 3:15 | Grace and Truth | 52650 | ||
(1) Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary (2) The People's New Testament (3) Barnes' Notes on the NT If this was taught in the bible, you would have a point, but this is a commentary about what someone think's the bible is saying to him! One could not convince Paul of this argument! Read your bible, if baptism or anything else was not necessary, the bible would tell us, because God is not willing that any should perish! |
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60 | What does water baptism do? | Matt 3:15 | Grace and Truth | 52660 | ||
My point about reading your bible is not to say that you don't read it, I was making a point about what the bible says about baptism and it's purpose. You mentioned "I believe that the Bible plainly teaches that you don't necessarily have to undergo water baptism in order to be saved". Where is that in the bible? You don't necessarily have to undergo water baptism in order to be saved! Did Jesus ever teach that? Did Peter ever teach that? I read my bible every day too, and I never seem nor heard anything like your statement "you don't necessarily have to undergo water baptism in order to be saved. Now I heard people say that about the bible, but the passages they are using, they read all around it. For example Acts 16 the Philipian jailer, most people stop at vs.31 and never read pass that, saying that's all one has to do. But if you keep reading the story you would find the "rest of the story" where they spake unto him and his household the word of the Lord, vs.32 and he and all his house was baptized the same hour of the night. vs.33 Now show me one post where someone told the whole story about the jailer! |
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