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321 | Is it mt 26:60-61 happening today? | 1 John 4:2 | MJH | 157156 | ||
Possibly the book, "Velvet Elvis : Repainting the Christian Faith" by Rob Bell would be a worth while read. MJH |
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322 | Enoch's prophesy in OT? | Jude 1:14 | MJH | 138462 | ||
BradK It isn't a question of IF Jude is quoting Enoch, but why. It is a direct quote from Enoch 1:9. Obviously we do not consider the Book of Enoch to be authoritative, nor written by Enoch; but Jude does quote from it none-the-less. See: http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/thebookofenoch.htm for an on-line translation of the Book of Enoch. Below is a copy of Book of Enoch 1:9 "And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him." Book of Enoch 1:9 MJH |
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323 | Enoch's prophesy in OT? | Jude 1:14 | MJH | 138510 | ||
Thanks for the commentary notes. It is always interesting to see what others have had to say about a text. Here is another: David Stern's Commentary: "Jude quotes 1 Enoch 1:9 . 1 Enoch, a compilation of writings by several authors who lived in the last two centuries BC, is one of the Pseudepigrapha, Jewish books attributed to famous biblical figures, such as Enoch. Such attributation was not deceptive but either hororific or a means of identifying the message of the actual author with the character and activity of the supposed one; compare the writer of an historical novel or documentary who puts words in the mouth of George Washington. Jude's quoting a non-canonical book does not make 1 Enoch inspired Scripture, nore does it disqualify Jude's letter. Paul quated pagan authors at Ac 17:28-29 and Ti 1:12, and no one supposes that their words should be included in Holy writ or Paul's excluded." An interesting study would be to find out how first century Jews and Jewsih believers felt about the Oral Teachings (Oral Torah), and books like Enoch. It's quite interesting, but beyond the scope of this text discussion. It's been nice discussing with you. MJH |
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324 | Jesus getting the keys to hell | Rev 1:18 | MJH | 184749 | ||
The phrase "keys to death and Hades" has nothing to do with Hell as we understand it. It's simply a pictorial way of referring to the resurrection being made real because of Jesus. MJH |
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325 | Rapture | Rev 20:1 | MJH | 214124 | ||
John, First off, while I generally shy away from end time’s debates, I appreciated your admitting you are not all together sure. Me neither. I enjoyed a speaker at a pastors' convention awhile back who told this story, "God is up in Heaven sitting with Jesus to his right. Before God are laid out all of the end times charts. He puts His arm on His Son's shoulder and says, 'You know Son, I'm going to send you back down there just as soon as I can figure these things out." Needless to say, it broke the tension of a bunch of staunch Christians holding different views on many things. That all being said, I recently wondered if those "taken away" were the Righteous or the Wicked. In Matt. 24:40-41 the two men and women, one is taken and the other left, the Text does not say which was which. If fact, in all cases where "one is taken" the Text doesn't specify which. We assume the good person is taken because of what we bring to that particular Text and not because of what the Text actually says. When I studied the first century understanding, I found that the Greek's believed the dead “good” were taken away to some heaven, but the Jewish faith believed the dead wicked were taken away to judgment. The Jews always saw Earth—and Jerusalem in particular—as the final place for the righteous. So, if Jesus is speaking to a Jewish world about someone being "taken away" and then He does not say who gets taken away; it would make sense that his audience assumed what Jews in that day assumed. Jesus doesn't overtly challenge that thinking. (Nor does he confirm it....it's not mentioned who is taken.) When I looked at this idea closer, I found that all throughout the Old Testament, those who are "taken away" are taken away to judgment, or because of judgment. At this time (first century), Israel’s identity is that She was taken away to Babylon as judgment for her sins. (Lamentations, Jeremiah) The only Text that does not fit this mold, (that the ones taken away are those taken away for final judgment) is 1 Thes. 4:17. Yet even here, the dead rise and the living meet the Lord in the air....but the Text even here does not mention if they float away to some heavenly place, or return triumphant with the Lord. They are not “taken away” per se, but rather gathered to the Lord. Any thoughts? This is one of my, “kept it under my hat” thoughts. MJH |
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