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221 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91401 | ||
Hi Ed, I am done with this thread...I just read through it and see that not only have you and I made zero progress..neither has anyone else...no one is benefiting from this. In response to the above post...I believe Isaih 53:4 is speaking of spiritual, soulish, and physical healing. In regard to the communion, I believe the communion was being desecrated, treated unholy and without discernment of the sacrifice of Jesus, which included physical healing. "Let us just say healing was as you say in the atonement, and we live 85-120 years sickness free, what effect would that have on us in eternity? Let's say God will give us anything we want and we live those years in the lap of luxury what effect on us will that make in eternity?" It would mean God's children are walking in the fullness of His will at least in that area. It is a promise to be received. The only reason it is such a predominate issue here on the forum is that so many do not believe. Some believe as you and some do not believe He heals at all. That is not what I believe. God bless |
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222 | WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION? | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91399 | ||
"His intrepretation. Now I started to believe those silly scriptures just might have another meaning than the ones that I had been taught all those years" That is the key out Pastor. I actually read scripture and cried out to God, " You are saying this, but in the Christian circle I am in I see this..." I prayed and said, God, if this is all there is..pretty paper around an empty box, I want to come on home. The scriptures introduced me to a compassionate teacher of wisdom, healing, and deliverance; a very NON RELIGIOUS person who demonstrated the will of God. I am leaving this thread now. I just backed up and begin to read down through it and I realize we are, forgive the old phrase but it is very appropriate, 'spitting in the wind'. God bless |
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223 | Ask for a cold, and ye shall receive it? | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91395 | ||
"The software in this forum is a total confusion to me. Please bare with me until some light shines in." We can 'bare with' because we all have experienced it and still do! God bless |
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224 | Ask for a cold, and ye shall receive it? | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91394 | ||
Hi Ken, This is an insufficient answer. We are here to learn and scripture is necessary for communication. This is probably why there was no response. We would be interested in a few of your source scriptures. God bless |
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225 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91366 | ||
You explained it in such a way that I understand what you believe. But Yes, I do believe physical healing has been proveded once for all, but we as believers have been taught to accept sickness and even to embrace it as some kind of gift from God..therefore we do not accept this very clear promise. Isaiah 53 says ,"He was wounded for our transgressions," Does this mean we no longer transgress? "He was bruised for our iniquities," Do we still commit iniquities? " The chastisement needful to obtain peace was upon Him" This is the renewed relationship with our Father, the rejoining of hands...and most of us recognize and hold fast to this one. "By His stripes we are healed." Are is not past tense but present but just for arguments sake, let's say past tense... Yes, healing has been provided but are some of us still sick? Yes Why? For the same reason we still commit sin and iniquities and do not walk in a relationship as we could and should and are sick.. because we accept them as unavoidable and as mere 'human' fact. Scripture tells us we are to submit our members (physical body) to righteousness...crucify the works of the flesh..progressively move toward holiness and away from sin. The same is true for healing... Healing has been provided in the same manner as salvation..unrefutable...we receive that by faith and do not allow anyone to rob us of this truth... But healing we do not accept, thus we do not hold tight to the promise because we do not believe it. The Hebrew word MEANS MADE WHOLE (spirit soul and body) and human reasoning does not alter that fact. Ed, you said you believe James 5:13-15 13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Does scripture say 'shall raise him up' or does it say 'might raise him up if it is the Lord's will'.... In response to your next observation...this proves God knew we would be sick...yes, and He also made provision for sin when we sin although He said 'sin not'. God is not ignorant of our humanity, but has made provision for our spirit to take authority over the flesh as the Holy Spirit enlightens us to the Truth. God bless |
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226 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91363 | ||
Hello Ed 1.Since communion is the act of 'rememberance' of the Lord's body and blood sarificed for us..body and blood...what does the Word say concerning the body of Christ Jesus? He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement needful to obtain peace was upon Him and BY HIS STRIPES WE ARE HEALED. To discern this His body broken for us is to discern the fullness of His sacrifice..Notice it does not say they failed to discern the body and the blood...Many discern the blood of the New covenant but do not discern the body. I realize He is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Believers do not comprehend the full provision of that sacrifice. I realize this is going to 'fly all over you' but if you really LISTEN you will realize that this does not 'contradict' the mainstream teaching on the communion but merely prompts us to think deeper into the New Covenant. It in no way denies the atoning death of Jesus for salvation. It is sort of like Christ leaving us His will, and we only accept the first line...the fact that it is our will...but fail to see into the depth of the will...I believe healing is provided in that will and the only condition is to believe. Now you and I may not agree on the term 'believe'. Many thing mental axxent to what scripture says is believing...it is not. Mental assent is not faith that ACTS. God bless God bless |
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227 | Release and Faith Question | Rev 22:18 | gracefull | 91360 | ||
John, I do not agree. Faith is believing what God said and acting accordingly. Again 'Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. God speaks, we believe, we obey...we receive. I am sorry I do not have the time to elaborate but if you review my previous posts you can certainly assertain why this is my belief. God bless God bless |
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228 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91358 | ||
"Graceful you know this just isn't true. Some of these men have gone to jail for their abuses of money." Some have gone to jail for fraud...but that was not what you said... "Your right God did provide for us physically he just didn't guarantee He would heal us when we told Him too." I agree. He heals when we BELIEVE. God bless |
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229 | release and faith | NT general Archive 1 | gracefull | 91354 | ||
I believe you are correct in your understanding of the term 'release your faith'. Faith without coresponding action is dead faith. In the book of Hebrews chapter 11, the 'hall of fame' of faith as it is called note that every person mentioned DID something with the Word of God. They OBEYED the Word of God and saw God perform miracles in their lives. The ultimate fulfillment, Jesus, however, they did not see in their living years. Faith must be sown to produce, otherwise it is like seed in a package, seed that will never produce. Often we mistake 'hope' for faith. We may hope God will do a certain thing but faith applied to the promise enables the Holy Spirit to produce the result. Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. God bless God bless |
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230 | Where does it tell us not to sin? | Rom 12:1 | gracefull | 91353 | ||
1 Corinthians 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame. Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 5:16-17 16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. These are the ones in the New Covenant that use the phrase sin not from the King James version. God bless |
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231 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91280 | ||
Ed, Where in 1Cor. 11:30 does it say God makes us sick? It says many are sick among you and some have fallen asleep BECAUSE they did not discerning the Lord's body. NOT DISCERNING THE LORD'S BODY....they became sick and some died...so why would not discerning the Lord's body cause illness and death! Isaiah 53 "is your forgetting God is sovereign as seen in the whole Bible." That does it. I have past by (and addresed) this topic more than once. We are going in circles on this merry go round and I am moving on to something productive. God bless |
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232 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91277 | ||
Ed, I do not have time today to discuss your entire post but would like to hit one small point.. You said, "If as MacArthur suggests this passage was in fact saying we are physically healed of all sickness and disease Rev 21:4 would be rendered less important. Furthermore if we are HEALED then we should never get sick again. Yet we both get sick from time to time and we certainly know other great and famous Christians that get sick." The PROVISION OF healing just as the PROVISION of salvation must be RECEIVED bu faith... God bless, |
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233 | Is "slain in the Spirit" biblical? | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91276 | ||
Thank you Colin for our conversation. I would like to leave you with one tiny point to ponder. What is the criteria by which we decide to apply faith to anything? Without the 'pegging' of faith to something it will not happen, but the realization that it is God's will must come first. Continue in the scriptures. The Holy Spirit is the revealer of the will of God for each of us through the Word. God bless! |
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234 | Release and Faith Question | Rev 22:18 | gracefull | 91271 | ||
Hi radioman, "'Of the multiple views of faith held by Faith teachers,10 Copeland focuses primarily on an understanding of faith as a force. "Faith is a power force," he claims. "It is a tangible force. It is a conductive force."11 Moreover, "faith is a spiritual force....It is substance. Faith has the ability to effect natural substance."12 As "the force of gravity...makes the law of gravity work...this force of faith...makes the laws of the spirit world function."13" Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. NAS (5) - assurance, 2; confidence, 2; nature, 1 'Copeland affirms that "God cannot do anything for you apart or separate from faith,"14 for "faith is God's source of power" (emphasis in original).15 Moreover, "everything that you're able to see or touch, anything that you can feel, anything that's perceptive to the five physical senses, was originally the faith of God, and was born in the substance of God's faith."16 In other words, "faith was the raw material substance that the Spirit of God used to form the universe."17 Note the key phrase (for you) without faith Romans 5:1-2 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Also grace, righteousness, new birth, and Holy Spirit baptism to name a few others. Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." God did frame the worlds and all things by faith and His Word. Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. John 1:2-4 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. ALL THINGS 'Copeland adds that "God used words when He created the heaven and the earth....Each time God spoke, He RELEASED his FAITH - the creative power to bring His words to pass."18 For "words are spiritual containers,"19 and the "force of FAITH is RELEASED by words."20 Remember Hebrews 11:3..worlds framed by faith... then listen to Genesis 1 Genesis 1:33 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. Genesis 1:6 Then God said, "Let there be an (13) expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." ETC.. Besides, the idea of words functioning as faith-filled containers makes no sense if there is no such thing as a "force of faith" (requiring packaging and transportation) in the first place. Matthew 12:35-37 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Man will have to account for EVERY IDLE WORD. Why is man going to be held so accountable if words are merely communicated thoughts of little value? What happens in the spirit world when man speaks? This verse does not merely state that we will be judged for the thoughts and intents of the heart, but for every idle word that proceeds from the heart, not JUST the heart...I wonder why? God bless |
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235 | Release and Faith Question | Rev 22:18 | gracefull | 91251 | ||
Hello John, "Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen." "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God." Faith produces the manifestation of God's will in the earth when God's people ACT UPON the Word of God. Faith without works is dead. Faith must be released by action. Faith without corresponding actions is dead, not faith at all. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Why does every promise of God have to be received by faith including our salvation, our righteousness, our justification, the Holy Spirit infilling, the gifts, and all the promises....ALL cannot be received except through the avenue of faith. "Biblical faith is trusting in God to the exclusion of things seen; "for we walk by faith, not by sight." Faith in the Word of God produces the promises of God. It is not walking through life with blinders on hoping God will do something. Scripture teaches us that faith must be applied to the Word. Faith without the Word is hope and hope does not produce. Faithful actions can be called seed... Example Matthew 8:9-11 8 But the centurion said, "Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 "For I also am a man under authority, with soldiers under me; and I say to this one, 'Go!' and he goes, and to another, 'Come!' and he comes, and to my slave, 'Do this!' and he does it." 9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. 10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. 11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. Faith spoke and said...All you must do is speak the Word and the work will be done because you have the authority over sickness and desease. What did faith produce? the healed servant.. Who was Jesus? The Word of God made flesh. God's Word and will manifested through Jesus. So faith in God's Word is faith in Jesus and God. And God is faithful to His Word. This in not new age mysticism. New age mysticism says, " I am god and what I think I can produce." New age mysticism is the Satanic counterfeit of God's truth and excludes the existence of God and Jesus. God bless God bless |
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236 | Is "slain in the Spirit" biblical? | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91248 | ||
Matt, You said.. "You mentioned that some of the points I brought up could hinder a person receiving a healing. I find it difficult to beleive that a healing can be hindered by asking God that he may be glorifed in whatever his plan of healing is for you." Absolutely not, but if we believe God is glorified somhow by our sickness, we do not and will not believe for a healing. According to your faith be it unto you. Matthew 9:28-29 28 When He entered the house, the blind men came up to Him, and Jesus said to them, "Do you believe that I am able to do this?" They said to Him, "Yes, Lord." 29 Then He touched their eyes, saying, "It shall be done to you according to your faith." . It says that Joh 11:35 Jesus wept. I believe He was weeping for the living. "Christ prayer was to heal Lazarus that others may believe on the one who sent him." You are correct in part I believe. Jesus was praying out loud that the croud could hear Him speaking to the Father and would know that when the miracle took place, they would know God and Jesus were in communion. Note verse 42 I am not clear on your point, so if you would clarify it so I can address it, but this is too general. I know God heals because He loves us and for His glory. The same Spirit in Christ is in us...The same Spirit that worked through Jesus...Matthew 12:28 is in us... I believe healing is provided through Jesus's stripes, and is received by faith. God bless |
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237 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91238 | ||
Ed, You are correct, but if both our hearts are truly yielded to know the truth, I believe the Holy Spirit will correct us. I do not mind exploring every avenue..But we have already discovered key scriptures we do not agree on. Until we can see eye to eye on these we are at a dead end. But I will be glad to continue with this discussion as long as you can refrain from making deragatory statements about WOF believers and teachers. Let the scripture speak for itself... About the books..I will not read the rest of Hank's book because I have seen where he took things out of context and did not compare actual teachings with scripture. Had he done a side by side comparison in context, I might would have read it. But the reason this is not a major desire of mine is that I do trust the Holy Spirit to enlighten me through the word, and do hold men's interpretations as nothing more than points to consider. What was the other book? I was going to get it as well, but became very busy in other studies. Refresh my memory. God bless |
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238 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91236 | ||
"Graceful my statement was addressing 99 percent of the WOF crowd." I doubt you know 99 percent so this is personal opinion. "Yes we are in the kingdom spiritually but not physically. Death Hell and the grave has yet to be cast into the lake of fire." This statement does not address my point. God made provisions for our physical in the spiritual kingdom of God. "However I don't believe He always heals everyone as we expect." Correct...He heals in accordance with His word. "I also do not believe God will heal through men that profit by it. Which includes about 90 percent of the WOF teachers you so defend." I believe people in ministry should receive a salary, and I believe God is the manager of how much. "Graceful I still and will always believe that your taking promises that were spiritual promises and trying to apply them to our physical condition today." You believe 1 Peter 2:24 is 'spiritual' healing and I believe it is both spiritual and physical. And since the KJV crossreferences this verse back to Isaiah 53:4, I am confident in what I believe. God bless my brother. |
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239 | Is "slain in the Spirit" biblical? | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91219 | ||
"Like Paul's thorn and Jesus' prayer ("take this cup..."), sometimes the blessing is in what He witholds and in what happens to our hearts in response to His witholding. It's sometimes so poignant, the feeling that comes from this attitude." I addressed the subject of Paul's 'thorn'in the thread beginning with ID# 81017 While I agree with this understanding of God's disciplining and guiding us, Paul's thorn was not sickness and desease. And I believe to add sickness and desease when none of the words in the text indicate such is mistranslating these verses. As a matter of fact in this post I took the entire BOOK and could not find one place where Paul uses the words suffering, or enduring in relationship to sickness and desease. I believe the subject of sickness and desease are addressed in Isaiah 53:4 and 1 Peter 2:24 completely. Persecutions, afflictions, and other attacks of the enemy (be they spirit or man prompted by spirit) are the 'sufferings with Christ' we can expect. Besides, how can I know all that He is actually witholding? (Rom 8:28) "And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose." In context: 26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; 27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. 31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? Pay close attention to verse 29...predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ Jesus...Does scripture teach us that Jesus was 'sick or deseased' or does it rather teach us that Jesus HEALED the sick and deseased... This verse does not indicate witholding but rather it indicates the working of the Holy Spirit to turn or work all situations for our good. This in no way means we are to tolerate things in our lives that Jesus has paid the price for. Again, Isaiah 53:4 and 1 Peter 2:24 state that it is not God's will for us to be sick or deseased. Jesus paid the price for our healing. "As for believing or doubting the genuineness our brethren's actions, I think we are asked to hone, not relinquish our critical objectivity. Discernment is highly scriptural. (Phi 1:9) "And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment," I agree that we are to use discernment and work out our own salvation...but what do we do with that discernment? Colin, I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me. I do not believe that it is God's will for His children to be bound by sickness and desease. He has provided all we need to walk free from this bondage, Jesus stripes and the Word to teach us this fact. Faith must come through meditation which will bring enlightenment of the Holy Spirit. Odviously you believe God heals, but you seem to doubt that it is His will to heal your son. All I can say is that I believe it is His will, and that He is not witholding healing to teach you and your wife. I do believe we must come to this knowledge before we can receive. May God continue to bless your family my brother. God bless |
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240 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | gracefull | 91212 | ||
Ed, I respectfully disagree. Once again 1 Peter 1:24 uses the Strong's word #2390 As does Mark 5:29( 29 Immediately the flow of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of her affliction.) If the meaning of the word had changed due to context, it would be a different word translated the same. Peter did not choose a different word which means 'spiritual healing' but rather chose the SAME word meaning physical and spiritual healing, thus the word healed in 1 Peter does not change meanings simply because it is used in a different context. And when you look at the punctuation in 1 Peter using the semi colon(NASB) or colon (KJV) an independent clause follows. The statement "(for) by His wounds you were healed" is an independent clause. Example: I went fishing at Lake ______: It is known for it's huge bass. Thus, it is my CONCLUSION that Peter is including this statement (by whose stripes you were healed) to complete the reference accurately. Isaiah 53:4 God bless 1Peter 1:24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed. |
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