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221 | What dose Jesus mean by Ye are gods. | Ps 82:6 | Sir Pent | 20798 | ||
Personal Note .................................. Dear Kalos, I must warn you my friend. If you continue to post such wise and complete principles for answering all Biblical questions, then you are going to put all of us "forum experts" out of buisness :) |
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222 | How do we know we're in the end times? | Is 1:1 | Sir Pent | 127667 | ||
Request for clarification............................................. Hello Fatherof4, I had not heard of Preterism before, but I checked out the site you recommended as well as several others. Do you consider yourself a full-preterist or a partial-preterist? If you believe that Jesus "second" coming happened in the first century, then do you believe that he will never come back again, or will there be a "third coming"? |
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223 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | Sir Pent | 120481 | ||
An alternative view................................................... Hi Angel, I agree with you that only through God's grace can we come to know Him. However, I would disagree that God doesn't use things like science and philosophy to bring people to Himself. Romans 1:20 says "For since the creation of the world His (God's) invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they (all humans) are without excuse." Luke 19:40 says "But Jesus answered, 'I tell you, if these (My followers) become silent, the stones will cry out!'" These are just two examples of places where the Bible supports the idea that nature (science) can and is used by God to bring people to know Himself. Please type the number 22206 into the "Quick Search" box at the top right corner of the screen. This will take you to a series of posts that I made once explaining how one can discover who God is from observing His creation. |
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224 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | Sir Pent | 120510 | ||
Clarification......................................................... Hi Angel, I'm glad that you seem to agree that God does reveal Himself to us even through nature (science) and other fields like philosophy and astronomy. The reason why I thought you did not believe that, was your statement that "we cannot seek God through sicence, philosophy or any other human wisdom". I am glad that we are now in agreement, and I forgive you for not wanting to use my screen name. When I first came to the forum many years ago, several people also were concerned about it. However, if you'll click on my name, my user profile explains it's origin. |
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225 | Earth round or flat? Sun center of syste | Is 40:22 | Sir Pent | 120519 | ||
Personal Note......................................................... Hi Angel, I am fine with you calling me something other than my full screen name. I would most prefer if you called me by the one that you observe to allign with my posts. If you primarily consider my posts to be defending people and ideas that are right, then I would ask that you call me "Sir". If you primarily consider my posts to be "held in" and expressed with self-control, then I would ask that you call me "Pent". If you do not believe that my posts reflect either of these things, then perhaps you would prefer to just call me "Mark". P.S. I think that we are in agreement that if you subtract God from science, you lose all meaning and purpose. |
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226 | does eternal have a beginning? | Jer 1:5 | Sir Pent | 22848 | ||
Personal Note .................................... Dear Johnny, As you said, this is off the original topic, and therefore I generally would not wish to respond to it in this thread. However, since you mention that you have asked it repeatedly with no answer, I'll make an exception. It is my opinion that Adam had a better picture of Heaven than any of us, because he lived in a closer approximation than we can even imagine. The Garden of Eden (before the fall) seems like it was very close to Heaven. Adam got to physically walk with God and talk with Him in a much more direct sense than when we pray today. My view of Heaven is a place where we will have uninhibited communion with God. We will actually be able to see Him, and there will be no sin to muddle our relationship. Adam seems to have had both of these things to begin with. Therefore, I think that Adam knew very well, what he was choosing to reject by disobeying God, and therefore deserved to suffer the consequences. I hope this helps, and I'll refrain from adding anything else to this thread since I am off topic. |
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227 | Can anyone else answer this question? | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113765 | ||
Agree, but not the answer.................................. Hi Johnny, I agree with you that God timing is perfect. My question is why was the "perfect" time so long after the world began. I also agree with you that God is not confined to our time. However, we are stuck in our time, so although waiting may not seem long to God, it sure does to us. Thanks again for trying to answer and for reminding us about the all mighty nature of God. |
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228 | Can anyone else answer this question? | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113767 | ||
I need clarification...................................... Hi Mommapbs, If I understand your answer, you are saying that the Holy Spirit can only dwell in people who are truly clean in the eyes of God. You seem to be saying that the people in the Old Testament who believed were not truly clean, and thus could not have the Holy Spirit in the way we can. Therefore, your answer is that the Holy Spirit couldn't come in fullness until after Jesus had been sacrificed to make us clean. This brings up 2 questions. The first is how could the Holy Spirit come on the prophets if they weren't clean? The second is if the Holy Spirit couldn't come until after Jesus, then why wait so long to send Jesus? |
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229 | Can anyone else answer this question? | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113768 | ||
Agree, but not the answer......................................... Hi BradK, You seem to be saying the same thing that Johnny said. I agree that God sent the Spirit in His own time, which was the fullness of time. But why was that point so late in humanities history. |
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230 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113769 | ||
I need clarification......................................... Hi Ray, You seem to be saying something similar to Mommapbs. You are saying there is a difference in how the Holy Spirit was on the people in the Old Testament (coming upon) and how the Holy Spirit is in us now (indwelling). I would ask you a couple of questions. Why would the Holy Spirit come differently to the people in the Old Testament than He does to us? Why would God wait so long to send the Holy Spirit in the "indwelling" sense. |
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231 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113771 | ||
Wow, what a list............................................. Hi Makarios, I don't think I've ever seen so complete a list of places where the Holy Spirit was active in the Old Testament. Thanks for that excellent post. To focus on the original question, you seem to be saying that God didn't wait at all to send the Holy Spirit, but rather that He was there from the beginning. Do I understand you correctly that you believe that the Holy Spirit was available to people throughout time in the same way that He is to us today. I only ask because some of the other answers I have recieved seem to think that there is a difference in the way the Holy Spirit was available in the OT and how He is available now. But you brought up good scriptural references for the Holy Spirit "filling" and "indwelling" people even in the Old Testament. So perhaps the answer to "Why did God wait" is that "He didn't". |
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232 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113860 | ||
Looking for more information................................. Hi Jcsav, So you are agreeing with almost everyone that the Holy Spirit operates in people's lives differently in the Old Testament than it does now. My first question for you is "Why?" You said that in the Old Testament the Holy Spirit moved in people's lives to enable them to perform a service or accomplish God's plan. Doesn't the Holy Spirit still work in our lives to enable us to serve God and accomplish His plan? Your second point was that the Holy Spirit could not operate in His present method until Jesus's death on the cross. My two questions there would be "Why" and "Why so long"? Firstly, why did Jesus have to die for the Holy Spirit to operate in this expanded way? Secondly, if Jesus had to die first, then why wait so long to send Jesus? |
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233 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113861 | ||
I need more information.......................................... Hi Makarios, I'm a bit confused by your last post. You seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit's role has been expanded because He now fills ALL true Christians. So have His methods changed, or is He still doing the same things, just with more people? |
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234 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113974 | ||
I need clarification................................. Hi Rowdy, If I understand you correctly, you are saying that God had to wait to send Jesus to Earth until humanity "grew up". And by "growing up" you mean that humanity stopped focusing on the physical world and started focusing on the spiritual world. I assume that you are also saying that God had to wait to send the Holy Spirit unitl this "growing up" happened as well. Am I understanding you correctly? |
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235 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113976 | ||
I need clarification................................ Hi Casiv, Thanks for the scripture referrance. I looked at that passage, and I want to make sure that I understand what you wanted me to learn from it. This is what I assume the passage is saying. God sent the Holy Spirit "into our hearts" because we were sons (Gal 4:6). We were sons because we were redeemed and adopted (Gal 4:5). We were redeemed and adopted through God sending His Son Jesus (Gal 4:4). Is this interpretation along the lines of what you were thinking? |
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236 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113979 | ||
Problem number 1............................ Hi EdB, Thanks for your response, but I have a couple problems with it. You seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament was "on" people but not "in" them. However, Makarios brought up several references where the Holy Spirit was "in" people of the Old Testament (Gen 41:38, Num 27:18, Dan 4:8, 5:11-14) Makarios also brought up references where the Holy Spirit even "filled" people in the Old Testament (Ex 31:3, Ex 35:31). Admitedly, these are a minority of references to the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament. Most of the time, He did come "on" people and not "in" them. However, it does show that this was not always the case. Another post in this thread referred to Gal 4:4-6, which refers to the Holy Spirit coming "into our hearts", which I don't think ever is mentioned in the Old Testament. Perhaps that is the true distinction that you are looking for. |
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237 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113980 | ||
Problem number 2............................ Hi EdB, The second problem that I have with your answer is that you said the Holy Spirit could not come "in" people who were not holy, and therefore, salvation through Christ had to come before the Holy Spirit could come "in". Doesn't that imply that the Holy Spirit has no problem coming "on" someone who is not holy. And also aren't you implying that no one was holy before Christ's sacrifice? Yet we know that there were people who were holy before Christ's sacrifice (2 Kings 4:9, Mark 6:20). Another post in this thread referred to Gal 4:1-10, which uses the categories of "sons" versus "servants". Perhaps instead of "holy people" you mean that the Holy Spirit can only come on "sons". |
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238 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113993 | ||
My clarification 1........................................ Hi EdB, I disagree that the words "in" and "filled" don't really mean "in" and "filled" in the Old Testament. I also don't see in any of the passages that I quoted (Gen 41:38, Num 27:18, Dan 4:8, 5:11-14, Ex 31:3, Ex 35:31) that the Holy Spirit left those people. It seems to me that the difference between the Holy Spirit in the Old and New Testaments is not whether He was "in" or "on", and not whether He was there "temporarily" or "permanently". Galations 4:4-6 seems to say that the difference is that in the New Testament, the Holy Spirit now comes "into our hearts". What do you think? |
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239 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113994 | ||
My clarification 2........................................ Hi EdB, Here you seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit comes differently in the New Testament becuase we are permanently holy now after Jesus sacrifice. Yet in the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit could only come on people temporarily because their holiness was temporary and always had to be renewed by animal sacrifices. I disagree. It seems that there are many places in the New Testament where it speaks of the need for even Christians to cleanse our hearts and confess our sins etc. This would indicate that although our cleansing comes repeatedly from the one sacrifice of Jesus instead of multiple sacrifice of animals, that we are not constantly holy, any more than they were in the Old Testament. Galations 4:1-10 seems to say that the difference between our relationship with God before and after Jesus is that we were servants and are now sons. So perhaps your answer of Jesus sacrifice is correct, but the affect of it is to make us sons, not to make us permanently holy. What do you think? |
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240 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114016 | ||
So we agree after all............................ Hi EdB, So it seems that we are in agreement here that the critical change between the Old and New Testaments (relating to the Holy Spirit's methods) is our relationship with God. This transition to becoming sons of God is what enabled the Holy Spirit to come in a new way. |
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