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21 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65917 | ||
[Quote from Joe] "The better question would be, "Why does He allow evil to exist?" -Joe! ******END QUOTE************* Because if there was no evil there could be no good. Good and Evil depend on each other for their existence. Without one the other would become "normal". Joe, with all that you know how is it that you can't see that God is above "GOOD". God is limitless, and "GOOD" places a limit. Is there not anything higher than "GOOD"? It won't matter how "good" you are or how much "good" you do, it can't equal God. "Good" is limited. |
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22 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65907 | ||
[Quote from LionStrong] Again, the purpose of the forum is Bible study. It is not to propegate one's unbiblical philosophy. If you wish to continue to justify your unbiblical philosophy to me, my e-mail address is in my personal profile. Col 2:3, "in [Christ] are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." not Anaximander. Peace, ************END QUOTE**************** Sorry LionStrong, My intentions are not to "propegate one's unbiblical philosophy", actually quite the contrary. Everything I have said in the forum is biblically related, and I have never suggested that Anaximander did anything but make an observation. It is not Anaximander that came up with the "ZERO" theory. There has been nothing said about the "ZERO" theory that is not related to or cannot be refernced by scripture. What is it that you so afraid of? |
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23 | Question about the "ZERO" theory. | Dan 1:4 | zerotheory | 65897 | ||
[quote from Pastor Glenn] Within your original thread you will notice question marks near a few of the replies if you scroll to the bottom of the window. You should notice two set of questions from me. From your original post I was wondering if you were a christian (by accepting Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God, as your saviour). By the way, I think that you may find the book of Daniel quite interesting. Daniel 1:4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans. ********END QUOTE************** Pastor Glenn, I am going to exercise Gods will onto me and *choose* not to answer your question at this time. What I will tell you is that God exists, my God is the same God as yours(the one and only), and that God loves us all. Also, what is it, specifically, that I might find in the book of Daniel? I see [1:4]"Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king’s palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans." (Chaldeans:A person versed in occult learning) (Occult:Beyond the realm of human comprehension; inscrutable.)(Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena.)(adj : having an import not apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence; beyond ordinary understanding) Please elaborate your intentions. |
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24 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65887 | ||
[Quote from Skrittt] "concerning the verse isaiah 45:7, notice that the word hebrew word being used there is Ra which refers to evil in the sense of destruction or situationally bad things (not morally bad things). Rasha is the hebrew word for moral evil, not ra. so the thing here is trnslation of the word in hebrew and the understanding of the word evil as it is used in this passage. the definition of evil as definied by webster: 1 a : morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED, an evil impulse b : arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct, a man of evil reputation 2 a archaic : INFERIOR b : causing discomfort or repulsion : OFFENSIVE, an evil odor, c : DISAGREEABLE woke late and in an evil temper 3 a : causing harm : PERNICIOUS ,the evil institution of slavery, b : marked by misfortune : UNLUCKY pay attention to 2 and 3, for these are the definitions of evil being used in the isaiah passage. again, the hebrew word for evil used in the passage is Ra which refers to definitions 2 and 3 above. I must also state again that moral evil is not a thing that is created; it has always existed, just as moral good has always existed. both hinge on the existence of God. with no God, there would be no eternal reference point for either, making both obsolete. God is good, and what is not of God is evil." *******END QUOTE****** I'm sorry but I'm gonna need to disagree with you. The only thing that has always existed is God himself, there is no eternal existence of "moral good" and "moral evil". Since God is the only thing that is eternal then **ALL** "good" AND **ALL** "evil" came from him, by him, and the scripture says so. I'm sorry, but I don't think we can pick and choose the definitions that work best just because we don't want to believe them. I don't think it is fair to say "this isn't the interpretaion he ment". God is the pinnacle, he is above both "good" and "evil", and he is neither. He created both for a reason and I think it should be asked, why did God create "EVIL"? |
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25 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65885 | ||
I need help with this one. [Isaiah 45:7]"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." |
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26 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65879 | ||
John, thank you very much for part 1,2, and 3. I think there is some misconection here. There is nothing in the "ZERO" theory which doesn't add up to what you just said. Have you read [Numbers]? Why did God give everyone a number? Who was "0"? What number exists whether any other number exists at all? What number is the begining and the end of all numbers? What number is responsible for the creation of every other number? what is the result when a number ceases to exist? What number is not seen but is the most powerful of everything? "0" is not like any other number, "0" is the only one that is eternal. John, there is no problem with me or what I am doing. I'm not sure why but you seem to think there is. I think that if YOU think a little about what I have offered you and study the scripture again that things might start looking a little clearer. John, please understand that the "ZERO" theory is of the bible from the bible. Scripture can be quoted and logic can be used; Again, "USE YOUR MIND TO FIND ALL OF GODS GLORY AND USE YOUR HEART TO LOVE HIM WITH ALL OF YOUR GLORY". You suggested I start with the book of John, What does [John 1:23] tell you? "He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias." He is saying, I am the voice of a number from the wilderness of Sinai.[Num. 1:1] Why is he a number? He is a number because it was Gods will. Mathematically, where do all numbers come from? They come from "0"! |
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27 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65874 | ||
Dear LionStrong: Thank you for your reply. You said: "In terms of mathematics zero is the point on the number line which separates negative and positive integers. One cannot do math with out it. In terms of things in the created realm zero IS nothing. To have zero apples is to have none. And there is One Eternal God, living and true. I submit that your theory of opposites is not only unbiblical but also faulty in itself." Let me bring a few thing about your statement to your attention. "ZERO is a point on the number line" (therefore it exists, it is not "NOTHING"...it is "SOMETHING) "seperates negative from positive"(It is the beginning and the End, but where exactly does that happen?) "To have zero apples is to have none"(Great point about the physical. Just because you have none doesn't mean that apples do not exist. Also, perhaps you had an apple and ate it, does the apple no longer exist or is it now part of you? Think about what you have said in relation to the number "0". With regards to mathematics "0" is not "nothing", every number or combination of numbers exist only because "0" exists, "0" is eternal. There is nothing unbiblical about the "ZERO" theory, actually it could be the most biblical thing next to the bible itself. What are your thoughts about [Numbers 1-36], have you read it? Why did God use numbers? Why did God command Moses to number everyone? |
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28 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65781 | ||
[Quote from John Redeamer]"If you want to see the lost come to Christ, learn to present the gospel. It has the power not us." John, You are correct, the power is in the gospel and the gospel works from the heart. However, there are many people who search for things from their mind and don't open their hearts until their mind says it's okay. All the "ZERO" theory does is help those find, factually, what they are looking for. It is the scripture that they must turn in order to discover all of Gods glory. John, I am going to reveal something to you. I am not knowledgeble of the bible, I am not knowledgeble of science, or mathematics, I don't even have a college degree. Yet, by way of the logic in the "ZERO" theory, I have been able to accept that there truely is a God. It is only because of this logic that I was able to find what I was looking for. No one forced me, no one urged me, no one willed me, as a matter of fact no one even prayed for me. You see, I was more of an athiest then I was a christian but when I, through Gods grace, found the "ZERO" theory I was able to open my heart to what my mind would not allow me to in the past. So when you say things like:"If you want to help them discover the will of God then give them the "Word of God" and not fancy theorys designed to expose their erroneous logic. If they are unbelievers it reqiures God's action upon their hearts to bring them to a desire for Christ." That actually has a negative effect on someone like me because logically, it doesn't add up. There is alot of confusion in the bible as well as misintrepretaions and it is here where people close their hearts. The interesting thing about the "ZERO" theory is that there is no confusion, no misinterpretations, and every language understands it. Everything in the scriptures can be validated and substantiated by the "ZERO" theory. [quote from John]"If they are unbelievers it reqiures God's action upon their hearts to bring them to a desire for Christ". John, where do you think I came up with the "ZERO" theory?(All that is done is done for Him) Why do you think I am willing to share it? |
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29 | Did God create "EVIL"? | Rom 5:12 | zerotheory | 65767 | ||
[quote from Robert] Have you considered the post from brother Tim Moran last Friday? Quote ""This is a tough question. My short answer would be this: Evil is not a thing that can be created. Rather, evil is the choice to disobey God's law. Evil is a natural possibility where choices are really available." So, evil did not have to be created, nor did it have to exist prior to creation. It simply was a natural result of the creation of beings with a will. Once the possiblity existed for Adam and Eve to disobey God, evil resulted. " (End of quote thanks to Tim Moran) Zero, re- "the knowledge of good and evil" Knowledge refers to the ability of a person to know the difference. Adam and Eve after receiving the knowledge of good and evil due to their act of disobedience experienced the feeling shame for the first time. I cannot except the idea of evil before creation. We are not given very much information about before creation, except that God had looked down through the ages and had purposed to redeem lost sinners through Christ "before the world began" Eph. 1:4 In Strong's concordance "evil" Strong's #07451 transliterated "Ra" is an adjective which would support the idea that we have evil actions as seen in disobedience and good actions as seen in obedience to God. Since God is the standard, everything else is measured relative to him. "In the beginning God (Elohim) Gen. 1:1 If try to look into the dateless past we find "Elohim" who was, who is and who will be, forever, for he is eternal. Peace in his name Robert **************End Quote************ "This is a tough question. My short answer would be this: Evil is not a thing that can be created. Rather, evil is the choice to disobey God's law. Evil is a natural possibility where choices are really available." [Gen. 2:16-17]"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: [ver.17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Clearly "GOOD" and "EVIL" exist and they exist only together. And they existed prior to creation. The choice is not a tree of "GOOD" *or* a tree of "EVIL", it's a tree of "GOOD and EVIL". "Since God is the standard, everything else is measured relative to him." Here is a "ZERO" theory summary: Everything, with the exception of "0", has an opposite that neutralizes the other and brings the two back to "0"(the "STANDARD"). Example:(positive-negative)(black-white)(night-day)(before-after)(up-down)(-2....2)(GOOD-EVIL). The twist is that they are both dependant upon each other for their very own existence, you can't have one without the other or they will both cease to exist. They both cease to exist because if you had just all "GOOD" then it wouldn't be "good" anymore it would be "STANDARD" and it can't be "STANDARD" because only "0" is "STANDARD". Can you see why I need to know where "evil" came from? Did God create "evil"? |
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30 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65757 | ||
John, [Quote from John] "I do believe that philosophy, logic and human reason can and should be used in the area of apologetics. But they are not the basis on which men will be saved. It is the Gospel that brings change in the heart of man. *****END QUOTE***** Correct! Man will be saved by bringing God into his heart. However, from your previous post, I think what [Eph.2:8-9] is saying is that it is by Gods grace that you automatically have faith. Meaning, I don't think you have to do anything and God will still accept you. However, when you take God into your heart is when you will see all of His Glory. I think what Rom 1:20-22 is focused on is the "being understood through what has been made". I think what it is saying is that God isn’t just all that *IS*, and don’t think yourself wise if that is what you believe, but that God is everything that *IS* *WAS* *OR COULD EVER BE*, whether it is seen or unseen, known or unknown, if it can be it is because of him. "0" is the exact same way. Perhaps you are number 541 and that is because your father was number 300 and your mother was 241 and together they made you, 541. But where did your mother and father come from? And where did they come from? It all trickles back to "0". The only reason you became 541 is because "0" exists. You can’t see "0" in 541 but it is there, always has been, always will be. What happens when (5-4)-1? Right, "0". Everything works this way. |
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31 | When and how EVIL came about? | Rom 5:12 | zerotheory | 65747 | ||
[quote from Robert] What is your definition of "evil"? If you look up the word in Strong's Concordance you will find that the word evil encompasses every negative act and word we could think of and in my humble opinion is a synomym to "sin". Take a look at this verse: "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."( Gen. 6:5) This is how God saw evil in the days of Noah. Humankind had become obsessed with sin in their thoughts and actions continually. Where does evil come from? a) The world system b) Our own sinful nature c) The enemy of souls, satan or the devil Good comes from God alone. "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man" James 1:13 In verse 17 he continues "Every good gift and perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning" The reason I keep focussing on evil since sin entered the world and tried not to speculate of a source beyond this world, is that it is here and now that we need to be concerned about, our relationship to God and not to be distracted by things which have no effect on our life. We know that the serpent of Genesis was involved in deceiving Eve into disobedience. He first of all questioned God's word, "hath God said?" He appeals to her pride telling her "your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil" Gen.3:5 He is telling her a part truth and an outright lie "thou shalt not surely die"(v. 4) We see the process of James 1:14-15 take place with dire consequences "Every man when he is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished brings forth death" (James 1: 14-15) It was satan who through the serpent planted the thought resulting in disobedience on the part of Eve followed by Adam and God was true to his word sin brought about death to the human race. I believe that Isaiah 14: 12-15 is referring to Satan or Lucifer an angel, created by God to a high place over creation. However, he had a desire which was against God "I will be like the most High". In Ezekial 28: 13-15 we have a description which describes the beauty of the cherub and the freedom he once had "until iniquity was found in thee" Ezekial 28:15 In other words satan made a choice to oppose himself against God and sealed his doom forever. Adam made a choice to disobey God and plunged the human race into sin. We rejoice however, that God by his grace has made a way whereby lost sinners can be redeemed and that is through the obedience of his Son upon the cross. Robert ******END QUOTE************** Robert, thank you for your answers. My trouble is in [Gen. 2.9]"And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil." Obviously evil existed before creation. It has existed since knowledge itself, which God has. As you said, "Good comes from God alone". Where does, did, evil come from? You explained sin from mankind but evil existed way before. How as evil created? Who created it? |
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32 | Question about the "ZERO" theory. | Not Specified | zerotheory | 65744 | ||
Pastor Glenn, did you have a question regarding the "ZERO" theory? I thought I saw a question up on Saturday but did not have time to respond. |
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33 | Question about the "ZERO" theory. | Dan 1:4 | zerotheory | 65787 | ||
Pastor Glenn, did you have a question regarding the "ZERO" theory? I thought I saw a question up on Saturday but did not have time to respond. |
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34 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65741 | ||
[quote from John Reformed] "The problem is not that people do not believe in God. The problem is that they will not worship Him as He is. Rom 1:20-22 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, It is my experience that you can waste a lot of precious time dicussing philosophical theories with unbelievers. Even if you do force an atheist to begrudgingly agree to the existence of God, it is still a long way to persuade him in a belief in the God of the Bible. Salvation or faith in Christ are not achieved through intellectual debate. They occur as a direct result of God's grace toward an individual. Faith is given as a gift. Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God Just present the gospel and trust the Holy Spirit to bring them to spiritual life. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. John" John, look at what you are saying: "The problem is that they will not worship Him as He is." "Even if you do force an atheist to begrudgingly agree to the existence of God, it is still a long way to persuade him in a belief in the God of the Bible." "Just present the gospel and trust the Holy Spirit to bring them to spiritual life." "Salvation or faith in Christ are not achieved through intellectual debate." Don't you think the ones who don't "worship Him as He is" is because they don't truely believe? "FORCED" can never replace love. To truely accept God it must come through the heart and mind from love and understanding, NOT FORCE. Isn't intellectual debate or "internal" debate the way we all learn to love? Why did God give you a mind if he didn't want you to use it? "It is my experience that you can waste a lot of precious time dicussing philosophical theories with unbelievers". How is it a waste of time to help someone discover the will of God. If they are a non-believer then they are searching for true, proof, understanding. It is actually these people who need the most help and are the most willing to accept help if it can be done at their level. As I have said John, "Use your mind to find all of Gods glory and use your heart to love him with all of your glory". There are no problems with the "ZERO" theory, it is divine. You should try to open up your mind and understand it, it will help you to serve God better by helping others find his glory. |
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35 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65730 | ||
[From EdB][The problem with the zero theory is not one of fact but rather of statement. The theory says zero exists but is nothing therefore for it to exist it has to be something. However stated thus we can see zero can and does indeed exist. Zero is the absence of anything, that condition can be mathematically proved, therefore the absence of anything or zero can be proven to exist. This is the same problem many people have with a belief in God, The problem is not that God does not exist or that his attributes can’t be seen, the problem comes from the non believing person stating conditions of belief that can not be met. Whenever mortal man tries to construct a box around God by the very definition of God we are destined to failure. EdB] Ed, You are correct! Let me restate a few things. Most people associate "0" with "nothing" and most people use the word "nothing" as if it were actually something. People do this because logically they know that absolute nothingness does not exist, therefore it is something. "NOTHING" cannot, will not, and can never exist. As you said, you can't have "nothing" if you have something. In mathematics, everything begins and ends with "0", everything that exists; exists because "0" exists, "0" is sovereign while all the other numbers depend or rely on another number, "0" is responsible for the creation of all the other numbers(they were created from "0"), "0" always exists(it never goes away and eventually it always shows back up), you can always find or turn everything over to "0" simply by multiplying by "0" and everything becomes "0". The point of the theory is: Even if you think, or it appears, you have "nothing" it is not true because there is no such thing as "NOTHING", you always have "something". Case and point, (which comes form the "ZERO" theory) absent everything else that exists, no matter what, whether it appears so or not, God exists and will always exist, you always have God, God is always with you, you can always reach God, and you can always bring God into your life. Some people have responded to my post of the "ZERO" theory, such as you did: "the problem comes from the non believing person stating conditions of belief that can not be met. Whenever mortal man tries to construct a box around God by the very definition of God we are destined to failure." It's not about trying to put a box around God. It's trying to show the NON-believing person, with mathematical proof and logical understanding, that he does indeed exists. "Use your mind to find all of Gods glory and use your heart to love him with all of your glory". |
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36 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65544 | ||
There is a "ZERO" theory but it is not of theological context. Not trying to be mystical, it's just very hard for me because I work from facts and truths, hence all my crazy questions and challenges. Misconceptions or misunderstandings of definitions bother me tremendously. Basically what the "zero" theory is that "0" exists yet it is associated with "nothingness" yet "nothingness" is not capable of existence. If "nothing" existed then it would be something therefore it is not "nothing". "0" is mathematical proof to an entity which is the essence of existence, it is what a philospher Anaximander called the "boundless". Call it God if you wish, "0" is its mathematical proof. Anaximander (532 B.C.) - the beginning and the fundamental substance (stoicheion) of things is an infinite something - "The Boundless" as he designates it. He also says the "apeiron", the absolute is the source of all things. Other elements are constantly being exchanged, but the Boundless cannot partake of this changeableness, or else it would pass away. The Boundless is not like the other elements. This Boundless is uncreated and indestructible, being itself primary. It has no cause, but causes all other things. |
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37 | When and how EVIL came about? | Rom 5:12 | zerotheory | 65541 | ||
I need help finding out how "EVIL", as in good and evil, came about. Not sin but "EVIL". | ||||||
38 | Where did evil come from? | Rom 5:12 | zerotheory | 65540 | ||
Thanks Tim. [quote from Tim] "The text you quoted actually answers your question. Gen. 3:22 does not say that Adam and Eve became gods. It says that they, like God, had come to know good and evil. That is the only point of comparision made in this verse. It does not say that Adam became all powerful, all present, all knowing, or eternal. It only says that, like God, they had come to know good and evil." How is it that evil came about? Where did evil come from? Obviously it was around before any creation took place. |
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39 | Son or son? Holy Spirit or holy spirit? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65539 | ||
Thanks Tim. It will take me awhile to digest. | ||||||
40 | When evil began? | Rom 5:12 | zerotheory | 65530 | ||
[Gen. 3:5] speaks of good and evil as well as [Gen. 3:22,23]"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: [Ver.23] Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. How did evil come about? Who was God speaking to? Again, why is he referencing "us"? If he was speaking about the trinity then he just said Man has became a God. ???? |
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