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21 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26799 | ||
Where does the Bible teach that water baptism is an "outward sign"? | ||||||
22 | Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati | 1 Cor 12:13 | kin | 26671 | ||
My apologies for coming across critical. I hope we will come to agree on this subject at a later time. Kin |
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23 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26665 | ||
Searching the scriptures deeper with an open heart?:-) Kin |
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24 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26663 | ||
I'm sharing something that you are unfamiliar with and you say it is another Gospel? Rom.4:3-5 is very simple. When put in context with James 2:20-24 it will make more sense to you. You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. Obedience to Gods Word to “repent and be baptized..” is not a work. Kin |
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25 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26657 | ||
Want part 2 and 3? | ||||||
26 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26656 | ||
The Great Awakening The Great Awakening was the result of fantastic preaching occurring in Europe and the eastern colonies during the early to mid 1700s. Though ambivalent on the practice of baptism, Great Awakening preachers created an environment that made man aware of his need for an adult confession experience. The experiences that people sought were varied. Jonathan Edwards, George Whitfield and John Wesley furthered ideas of radical repentance and revival. Although there is much to be learned from their messages, they did not solve the problems of the practices associated with baptism and conversion. Eventually, the following biblical passage written to and inspired for lukewarm Christians became a popular tool for the conversion of non-Christians: "To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation. ....Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me." (Revelation 3:14-20) This passage was written explicitly for lukewarm Christians. Now consider how a lecturer named John Webb misused this passage in the mid 1700s as a basis of evangelizing non-Christians: "Here is a promise of Union to Christ; in these words, I will come in to him. i.e. If any Sinner will but hear my Voice and open the Door, and receive me by Faith, I will come into his Soul, and unite him to me, and make him a living member of that my mystical body of which I am the Head." (Christ's Suit to the Sinner, 14) Preachers heavily relied on Revelation 3:20. By using the first-person tense while looking into the sinner's eyes, preachers began to speak for Jesus as they exhorted, "If you would just let me come in and dine with you, I would accept you." Even heathens who had never been baptized responded with the same or even greater sorrow than churchgoers. As a result, more and more preachers of Christendom concluded that baptism was merely an external matter--only an outward sign of an inward grace. In fact, Huldreich Zwingli put this idea forth for the very first time. Nowhere in church history was such a belief recorded. It only appears in Scripture when one begins with a great cataract of nonsense. In other words, it only appears in the New Testament through the imagination of readers influenced by this phenomenon. | ||||||
27 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26655 | ||
Sound familiar? This method of conversion has had far-reaching effects worldwide as many have claimed this as the basis for their salvation. Yet, what is the historical significance of this conversion? How did the process of rebirth, which Jesus spoke of in John 3, evolve into praying him into one's heart? I believe it was an error germinating shortly after the Reformation, which eventually caused great ruin and dismay in Christendom. By supplying a brief documentation of its short, historical development, I hope to show how this error has served as "a great cataract of nonsense". The Reformation Although things weren't ideal after the Reformation, for the first time in over a thousand years the general populace was reading the Scriptures. By the early 1600s, one hundred years after the Reformation was initiated, there were various branches of European Christendom that followed national lines. For instance, Germans followed Martin Luther. There were also Calvinists (Presbyterian), the Church of England (Episcopalian), various branches of Anabaptists and, of course, the Roman church (Catholics). Most of these groups were trying to revive the waning faith of their already traditionalized denominations. However, a consensus had not been reached on issues like rebirth, baptism or salvation--even between Protestants. The majority still held to the validity of infant baptism even though they disagreed on its significance. Preachers tended to minimize baptism because people hid their lack of commitment behind sayings like "I am a baptized Lutheran and that's that." The influence of the preachers eventually led to the popular notion that one was forgiven at infant baptism but not yet reborn. Most Protestants were confused or ambivalent about the connection between rebirth and forgiv | ||||||
28 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26651 | ||
The Sinners Prayer - Part 1: A Great Cataract of NonsenseSteven Staten - Congregational Elder: Chicago Church of Christ - Wednesday, April 11, 2001C.S. Lewis used the term "a great cataract of nonsense" to describe how people use a modern idea to construe Bible theology. One such example, perhaps the best example, is a conversion method called the Sinner's Prayer. It is more popularly known as the Four Spiritual Laws. Lewis used this term to describe what happens when someone looks backward at the Bible based only on what he or she has known. Instead, an evangelical should first discern conversion practices from Scriptures and then consider the topic in light of two thousand years of other thinkers. As it is, a novel technique popularized through recent revivals has replaced the biblically sound practice. Today, hundreds of millions hold to a belief system and salvation practice that no one had ever held until relatively recently. The notion that one can pray Jesus into his or her heart and that baptism is merely an outward sign are actually late developments. The prayer itself dates to the Billy Sunday era; however, the basis for talking in prayer for salvation goes back a few hundred years. Consider the following appeal: "Just accept Christ into your heart through prayer and he'll receive you. It doesn't matter what church you belong to or if you ever do good works. You'll be born again at the moment you receive Christ. He's at the door knocking. You don't even have to change bad habits, just trust Christ as Savior. God loves you and forgives you unconditionally. Anyone out there can be saved if they ... Accept Christ, now! Let us pray for Christ to now come into your heart." | ||||||
29 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26649 | ||
My "assumption" on the history of the church can be looked up by you. Don't beleive me Nolan, go look for yourself and get back to me if you want. Kin |
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30 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26645 | ||
Acts 2:38 1Peter 3:20-21 (this water (baptism) saves you) Mark 16:16 Col.3:20 Rom. 6:1-10 Gal. 3:26-27 John 3:3 Kin |
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31 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26643 | ||
Searcher, If you would like I would be willing to do a study on Acts 10:46-47 with you. Before this conversion, there were no Gentiles in the Kingdom of God. The Spirit came on them suddenly without warning, in the same way it came on the Apostles (Acts 11:15). Both events were to usher in the Kingdom of God, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. There is much more to be said. Let me know if you want to dig in! A study on the Spirit and baptism is indepth and involved and can't be understood unless one really wants to search(no pun intended)it out. As far as Acts 2:38, I wrote my comment in my other post. Kin |
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32 | Only 900 "baptism" posts | 1 Cor 12:13 | kin | 26636 | ||
My purpose on this forum is not to anger you. But I have ever right to preach the truth to those who would want it. You have every right not to respond. My prayers will be with you. Kin |
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33 | Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati | 1 Cor 12:13 | kin | 26628 | ||
The majority opposed Christ as well. You don't have to respond anymore to my questions, but there are people that are searching for answers that need to hear the truth. I haven't taken this subject lightly and have studied it indepth. My prayer for you is that you will take a serious look into it for yourself and don't be satisfied with the majority or even with what you have always believed. My prayers are with you. Kin |
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34 | Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati | 1 Cor 12:13 | kin | 26627 | ||
The majority opposed Christ as well. You don't have to respond anymore to my questions, but there are people that are searching for answers that need to hear the truth. I haven't taken this subject lightly and have studied it indepth. My prayer for you is that you will take a serious look into it for yourself and don't be satisfied with the majority or even with what you have always believed. My prayers are with you. Kin |
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35 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26618 | ||
You are right and I apologize. But that doesn't answer the question I asked. Kin |
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36 | is the bible the inerrent word of God? | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26616 | ||
Why did you ask then? Kin | ||||||
37 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26613 | ||
That says the eunuch saw the need to be baptized and he took the first opportunity to do so. "out ward sign" is purely an assumption and I would not stand on any doctrine based on that. Kin |
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38 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26577 | ||
Hi Nolan, So he started out, and on his way he met an Ethiopian eunuch, an important official in charge of all the treasury of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians. This man had gone to Jerusalem to worship, and on his way home was sitting in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. The Spirit told Philip, "Go to that chariot and stay near it." Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. "Do you understand what you are reading?" Philip asked. "How can I," he said, "unless someone explains it to me?" So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. The eunuch was reading this passage of Scripture: "He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before the shearer is silent, so he did not open his mouth. In his humiliation he was deprived of justice. Who can speak of his descendants? For his life was taken from the earth."The eunuch asked Philip, "Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking about, himself or someone else?" Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus. As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, "Look, here is water. Why shouldn't I be baptized?"And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him. When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing. This passage does not say the eunuch was already converted before baptism. Matter of fact, the passage says he went on rejoicing AFTER his baptism. If his baptism was an outward sign why would he be so urgent to be baptized in the dessert? Why wouldn’t he wait to make it a public event? After hearing the message of the Gospel and realizing he needed to be baptized to wash his sins away, he jumped at the first chance to do so. With no one around and in the middle of the dessert! To use this passage to support the “outward sign” doctrine is assumptious at best. Please show me where the Bible teaches this doctrine clearly. And take some time to look into the doctrine of the early church and you will find that the “outward sign” doctrine was never taught only up to 200 years ago! Kin |
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39 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26571 | ||
Searcher, Acts 10:47-48 is an entire different study in itself. It is the ushering in of the Gentiles to the Church. This group of men recieved the Spirit "just as he had come on us (the apostles) at the beginning"(Pentacost) Acts 11:15. It was a unique conversion you will find only in Acts 2:1-13 and 10:47-48. "Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off--for all whom the Lord our God will call." With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, "Save yourselves from this corrupt generation." Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. Acts 2:236-40 A study of this whole passage in context gives no reference to baptism after salvation. If so “you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” wouldn’t be future tense. But “you will receive…” is future tense. So according to your belief, one gets saved, then gets baptized, then receives the Holy Spirit. That is clearly unbiblical. Second, “repent AND be baptized” is a direct command to the people in response to their question “what shall we do?” Did the people have to repent after they got saved? Not after but before: Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them--do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish." Luke 13:1-5 I say this with sincere concern: Are you open to the idea that you could be wrong? Look into it for yourself and you will find that the doctrine your preaching was never original church doctrine and has just come about the last 200 years. Look into it, it can only help. Kin |
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40 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 26562 | ||
Searcher, Mark 1:9-11 and Acts 8:38-39 are clearly an immersion in water. Acts 2:38 makes it even clearer. "Repent and be baptized, every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the forgiveness of your sins and you will recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit. This promise is for you and for all that are far off. For all whom the Lord our God will call." You are forgiven at baptism. You recieve the Holy Spirit at baptism. It is the promise fullfilled! Why do people get so upset about obeying the Word of God? Kin |
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