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21 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53445 | ||
Shalom Johnny; You said; If Christ fulfill the law the same what you said. Why He stop the people that try to kill the women that has been accused of adultery! This goes to show how little Christians know about the Torah. The Torah clearly states that if a man and woman are caught in adultery, they are to bring the MAN AND the woman out to be stoned. In the account of the Pharisees bringing the woman caught in adultery, where is the man? Yeshua recognized their conscious act of bringing the woman only, to test him to see how he will respond to this situation. You are tired of it? It does not surprise me :-). To be honest, so am I :-). I would like to remind you and everyone else, that I did not come in here flooding the forum with my beliefs. I simply responded to Bubbatates original statements with one simple post, that is all. Since then I have been swamped with questions which I responded to as best I can. I never pushed my views on anyone. You act as though you are tired of my posts which you seem to see as harassment. My posts were a result of questions asked of me. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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22 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53438 | ||
Shalom Ed; I am sorry, but I am afraid that I do not understand your point here. Are you attempting to say that Mark 1:10-11 is proof positive in the existence of the Trinity? I see God, his son, and a dove. If this is the case there are many more trinities than this. How about the account of the burning bush, you have a trinity, God speaking, a bush and fire. Are they a trinity? How about the pillars of fire and cloud where God speaks out of them? How about Psalms 98:1; “Sing to YHWH a new song, for he has done marvelous works, his right hand and his holy arm bring salvation.” Hear we have YHWH and his right hand and holy arm which brings salvation. I have studied the trinity doctrine, I know the verses backwards and forward to support the doctrine. Do not forget that I agree with the trinity doctrine, in a sense, a little differently but similar. The Kabbalah is much more than a simple little phrase like three gods in one, the Tree of life is a multi faceted paradigm. It deals with every aspect of the Bible, from God to man to the universe. It is not that it would take a book to explain the Tree of life, but that the contents within it would take a book. In order to fully understand the Tree of life, you must understand all of its components. Trying to explain the Tree of life to you or anyone not familiar with it, would be like trying to explain the Bible to someone who has never heard of it before. Can you explain the whole Bible to someone with a few verses? We all know that the Kabbalah is an abhorance to you. That is understandable, you have been taught that it is evil, I was too. I rejected the Kabbalah out of hand becase it was evil, but when I started learning it, I found that it was Biblical. How many times do we reject a doctrine because we were told it was wrong and we do not even know what it is? Ed, you have no clue what the tree of life or the ten sephirot are and how they are related to the Bible, so how can you reject something you know nothing about. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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23 | God created satan, did he create evil ? | Is 45:7 | Simchat Torah | 53423 | ||
Shalom seeker; Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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24 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53420 | ||
Shalom Ed; To explain the Tree of life in the Bible would take a book :-), of which there are many. Let me just post a couple verses here; Gen 1:27 And God filled the man with his shadow, in his shadow God filled him, male and female he filled them. Man was filled (the Hebrew word is better translated as fattened or filled then created) with his shadow, a reflection of God, as man was made male and female, God is male and female, hence the father and mother. Exodus 12:23 When YHWH goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe and will pass over that doorway, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down. If you read this passage very carefully, ask yourself these questions, who is going through the land killing? The destroyer. Who is the destroyer that will strike the Egyptians down? In Exodus 12:12 YHWH says he will strike the down the Egyptians, YHWH is the destroyer. Now who stands at the door preventing the destroyer from entering the houses with the blood? As the text says “he” it is referring back to YHWH. So YHWH stands at the door preventing YHWH from destroying those inside. Two YHWH’s, (I still believe that YHWH is one as in the Shema of Dt 6:4, but you have to undersand the Hebraic understanding of the word echad – one). The father (equated with biynah – understanding) is YHWH and the mother (equated with chachmah – wisdom) is YHWH. The son is ehyeh (I am). There are other passages as well that show two YHWH’s. Exodus 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel and under his feet was like workings for understanding (biynah – father/YHWH) the saphiyr (singular for sephirot) and like a tree (literally backbone, the tree of a man) of heaven for cleanliness. Proverbs 3:18 She (wisdom – chachmah/mother/YHWH) is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her. This is a case where you can translate this passage several different ways. My translation is just as valid as the KJV or NIV, as I said in another post, ones belief system will dictate how the texts are translated. These passages and my explanation will by no means convince anyone that the tree of life is real, that would take much more than I could put here. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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25 | What in the Bible made you a non-christi | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53413 | ||
Shalom John, Taking a break from packing :-). I was born and raised in the Lutheran church, my father was a minister. Unlike other horror stories you hear about Pastors kids, I loved my childhood and our church. Some of my fondest memories growing up was helping my dad write his sermons. I never missed a service, taught Sunday school at the age of 15, even entertained ideas of becoming a minister. When I met my wife she was attending an Assembly of God chuch and I started going with her. I found that they believed things differently than I did, though I knew church doctrine very well, I did not know the Bible or the, why’s, to what I believed. Since I did not know which doctrines were correct, I started studying the Bible earnestly, not to prove that the Lutherans were right (I believe that when you set out to prove a doctrine, you will succeed), but to find the truth in these. This study lasted for over five years of very serious searching and studying. Through this study, I started noticing a lot of similarities between the Old and New Testaments. Whenever came across one of these similarities I wrote it down. After 5 years, I had a very large list of similarities and decided it was time to study them. After a year of studying these I discovered that Jesus taught and lived Torah and that his disciples did as well, I found that the Torah is Eternal, for all of God’s people. At this point, I could believed that I must have made an error in my studies because no one does Torah except for the Jews. I began searching for the error but I could not find one. About a year later, Jewish friend of mine invited me to the Synagogue to a learn Hebrew class, he knew that I was searching out the Hebrew language. While there, one of the synagogue members approached me, covertly and invited me to their messianic group. You would be surprised how many believers of Yeshua there are in the synagogues, they are waiting for the right time to make themselves known. To soon and they will be kicked out, There Rabbi was when it was found that he started sounding messianic. At this group of Messianics I found out that there was a large number of Jews and gentiles living according to Torah and the movement is growing larger by the day. Now I knew that what I found in the bible was true. That is my story in a nutshell :-) Shalom Simchat Torah |
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26 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53412 | ||
Shalom John, Taking a break from packing :-). I was born and raised in the Lutheran church, my father was a minister. Unlike other horror stories you hear about Pastors kids, I loved my childhood and our church. Some of my fondest memories growing up was helping my dad write his sermons. I never missed a service, taught Sunday school at the age of 15, even entertained ideas of becoming a minister. When I met my wife she was attending an Assembly of God chuch and I started going with her. I found that they believed things differently than I did, though I knew church doctrine very well, I did not know the Bible or the, why’s, to what I believed. Since I did not know which doctrines were correct, I started studying the Bible earnestly, not to prove that the Lutherans were right (I believe that when you set out to prove a doctrine, you will succeed), but to find the truth in these. This study lasted for over five years of very serious searching and studying. Through this study, I started noticing a lot of similarities between the Old and New Testaments. Whenever came across one of these similarities I wrote it down. After 5 years, I had a very large list of similarities and decided it was time to study them. After a year of studying these I discovered that Jesus taught and lived Torah and that his disciples did as well, I found that the Torah is Eternal, for all of God’s people. At this point, I could believed that I must have made an error in my studies because no one does Torah except for the Jews. I began searching for the error but I could not find one. About a year later, Jewish friend of mine invited me to the Synagogue to a learn Hebrew class, he knew that I was searching out the Hebrew language. While there, one of the synagogue members approached me, covertly and invited me to their messianic group. You would be surprised how many believers of Yeshua there are in the synagogues, they are waiting for the right time to make themselves known. To soon and they will be kicked out, There Rabbi was when it was found that he started sounding messianic. At this group of Messianics I found out that there was a large number of Jews and gentiles living according to Torah and the movement is growing larger by the day. Now I knew that what I found in the bible was true. That is my story in a nutshell :-) Shalom Simchat Torah |
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27 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53407 | ||
Shalom John. You said; To answer your question concerning anathma: Paul says in Gal 1:8,9 "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!" "accursed is the translation of the greek word "anathema". I was somewhat surprised at your ignorance of this, as this is commonly known passage by those who study Pauline doctrine. Your first assumption is that the gospel which you have is the correct one (which I am sure you do :-), which would then make mine anethema and therefore accursed. But, I believe that my gospel is the Gospel which Paul spoke of, if I am correct then your gospel is anethema and you are accursed. (I am not saying this, but it is the conclusion to your argument if I am correct) I know that you have all of the scriptures backing up your claims that you are correct, but so do I as well as the Mormons, JW’s, Jews, Muslims, etc. You know that you are correct. That is fine, I believe that I am correct. Our only hope is to look at the scriptures objectively and see what they say and discuss them, who knows maybe you or I will find a passage that does not fit our theology and will have to revise it. I have done this many times before and have no probable throwing out a doctrine to be false. I was once a Christian just like you, I believed in all the doctrines you do. But I looked at the scriptures objectively and found something different. About Translations. Many Christians compare translations in order to look at them objecdtively. The only problem is they only look at translations that are written by other Christians. Have you ever compared the Old Testament with a Jewish translations, they have translation scholars as well and it is there language. What would you do if you found a passage that reads differently? For example. Isaiah 9:6 according to the Christian translations is in the future tense implying the coming Messiah. The Jewish text has it in the past tense, someone that was born previous to Isaiah. Which is correct? Will you go with the Christian translators because they are Christians? Or would you entertain that they are wrong? I base this simple claim on the fact that when you read the Hebrew text you can see what is really said. As an example, why is one Hebrew word – nephesh translated at least 30 different ways, depending on the translation, in the Old Testament, it would make more sense to me to translate one Hebrew word with the same English word all the time. In Gen 2.7 it says that man became a living soul according the KJV, it also says in Gen 1:26 that the animals are living creatures. From this we can gather that men have souls and animals are just creatures. But, the Hebrew for both is identical, nephesh Chayah – living souls, yes animals have a soul as well according to the Hebrew text, but the translators don’t like that idea so they translate them differently. John, I thank you for the great discussions as well as with everyone else. I know that my beliefs are different but I hope that does not cause a wall to go up between us. In every way possible I have attempted to show through the Old and New Testaments why I believe what I do and have showed how I understand the scriptures, even though my beliefs are different I will be on vacation for the next week and will miss these discussions, Shalom Simchat Torah |
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28 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53404 | ||
Shalom Ed, First of all, I can support my views of the tree of life with scripture alone, just as you can with the trinity. No difference, the Kabbalah is not formed outside of the Bible but from it. I am over 40, but since I do not follow Judaism, I do not necessarily agree with that tradition. I follow no particular religion Ed, I agree with some Christian doctrines and some from Judaism. I also disagree with both in some areas. No, I do not believe in re-incarnation. I will be on vacation for the next week, so I am sorry that I will not be able to discuss this further with you. See you when I get back. Shalom Simchat Torah. |
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29 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53403 | ||
Shalom Bub, and everyone else that has been involved in the forum. I have really enjoyed these discussion but am sorry that I will be on vacation for the next week and will not be able to continue in this forum for the time being. (Some of you are relieved, I am sure :-). Until then, Shalom, chenan, v'chesed l'khem (Peace, grace and love to all) Simchat Torah |
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30 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53402 | ||
Shalom Bub; Thank you for your confirmations and I see that you have discovered the truth about the Torah. As you can see the "Law" of the church is not the same as the "Torah" of God or Yeshua. You mentioned that you see the will of God as the Torah. If you have not seen this before, it is in the Bible – Psalms 40:8; I desire to do your will, O my God; your Torah is within my heart. This is written in a common form of Hebrew poetry called parellelism where one idea is stated two or more different ways. The Psalms are full of this type of poetry as well as many other books of the Bible, even in the New Testament. This type of poetry study is very important because it helps us understand the mind of the Hebrews and how they viewed words, God and the world. In the above passage, the phrase “I desire to do your will” is parelled with “your Torah is within my heart”. Therefore, the will of God is his Torah. Just as the Psalmist said in 119:70; I desire to do your Torah, so does Paul in (Romans 7:22). If Paul was not doing Torah how could he delight in it. When you delight in a beautiful sunrise, you are there, a part of it, you are emmersed in it. If you delight in your kids, you are taking part in their life. To say that Paul delights in the Torah, but does not follow it, is a contradiction. Thanks again for the post Bub; Shalom Simchat Torah |
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31 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53392 | ||
Shalom Joe; While most Christians see the moral laws of God as good and for them today, they draw the line at anything that is “jewish”. This is actually a result of the Bar Kockba revolt of 135 AD. Prior to this, as I believe it, Jews and Gentiles were following the Torah. When the Romans began killing the Jews because of the revolt, the Gentiles said, we are not Jewish and to show it stopped doing anything “Jewish”. These included the Shabbat, feasts and Kashrut (dietary laws). This resulted in the Christians observances of Sunday, Christian feasts such as Christmas and an elimination of Kashrut and began eating swine. You said; How do you think that is reconciled with Acts 15, in which the apostles did not require the Gentile converts to live as Jews The basic question in Acts 15 is are they to convert and be circumcised or not, they said no, they do not need to covert. The question about whether they were to put the yoke of burden on them which they themselves could not keep is referring to the oral torah, additional commands which are not found in the Bible. If you will notice that there descision included 4 things from the Torah. Torah is like a teaching of a parent, you do not teach a two year old how to clean the house, you start with little things and build on that. These Gentiles are babys and are told 4 things they should start doing (these were probably big problems in the communities they came from). Then it says that Moses is taught in the synagogues each Shabbat. It was understood that they would learn more about the Moses, and the Torah at the Shabbat services. You said; And what do you do with the book of Galatians, which is Paul's longest treatment of how the Judaizers are wrong to try and convince the Gentile converts to be circumcized and become subject to the covenant at Sinai? The problem that Paul was facing was that some Jews were still trying to live by the covenant that was given at Sinai which has ended. He is trying to explain to them that the covenant is over and that they do not follow the Torah according to the covenant at Sinai, but according to the new covenant. To many people make the Torah and the covenant at Sinai synonymous, they are not, the Torah is eternal and an intity to itself. The covenant at Sinai did incorporate the Torah but made it a binding contract rather than a teaching which is its original intent. You said; And the book of Hebrews, which seems to say that the Mosaic Covenant has served its purpose (namely, to prefigure the Messiah)? I think I have answered this one. Just because I follow Torah does not mean that I follow the covenant at Sinai, I follow the New covenant. Remember what Jer 31 which is quoted in Heb 8 that in the New covenant, God will write the Torah on the hearts. You said; And can't the word "Torah" also refer to general moral instruction and not specifically the Pentateuch? This is partially correct. The Torah are the teachings of God which include moral, civil, sacrificial, dietary, clothing, farming, etc. basically it is a whole lifestyle. Abraham knew the Torah (Gen 26:5 where the word laws is actually the Hebrew word Torah) He did not know the covenant at Sinai but he did follow the Torah including sacrifices. You said; Regarding the Trinity, according to you, how does the Kabbalah's notion of the Trinity differ from that of the Nicene and Athanasians Creeds? How does my view differ from the Creeds? To be honest, I think the trinity limits God, I do confine him to three but to many more. Also the Holy Spirit which is Ruach HaKodesh in Hebrew literally means the breath of the holy one. The spirit is synonymous with breath in Hebrew. It is his breath that moves us. All of the manifestations of God are just that. Manifestations of him in different forms and character. Shalom Joe and thanks for the discussion. Simchat Torah |
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32 | Greetings Simchat Torah | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53391 | ||
Shalom 2nd Samuel. No problem at all. Yes, I believe Yeshua/Jesus to be the son of God, the Messiah, and God. My sole reason for using the term Prophet is that it is the only Old Testament title given to the coming deliverer (Dt 18:5) The idea of a coming Messiah was formed by the Phrisees/Rabbis between the Old Testament and New Testament times. They developed an extensive belief system in a coming Messiah. When Yeshua came he fulfilled the role of the prophet as promised to Israel as well as the Messiah as understood by the Rabbis. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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33 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53390 | ||
Shalom Ed; My beliefs in the Kabbalah are no different than yours in the trinity, no the actual beliefs of these doctrines but how we use them. No where in scripture is the trinity doctrine spelled out. But you can read a book on Trinity that takes all the scriptures together and explains the Trinity doctrine according to the scriptures. The Kabbalah is the same way, it is a compilation of scriptures and explained. Nothing more. How can my belief in the tree of life/ten sephirot be in any way different than your belief in the trinity. I know that the Trinity is considered a mystery that no man can fully understand, So is the Kabbalah, a mystery. You said; I think you said or implied you aren’t from the root of Abraham, I take that to mean you weren’t born a Jew. I then assume you’re a gentile possibly Christian that became fascinated with the Jewish culture and heritage, and you now find yourself more closely aligned as Messianic Jew rather than gentile Christians. Is that correct? I was raised a Christian, Lutheran, my father is still a minister. I was 33 when I found problems with Christianity. I did follow Judaism but found the same problems there. No, I am not a Messianic or a follower of what the Messianics teach. So I am neither Christian, Jewish or Messianic. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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34 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53387 | ||
Shalom John; You said; The Kaballah does not appear to be one that could stand the test. But it does appear to be the spectacles through which you interpret Scripture. Correct me I'm wrong. Yes, this is correct. There are things within Kabbalah that do not line up with the Bible which we do reject, the Bible is the foundation. You said; If the rabbis were spiritually alive they would not have rejected Jesus. This is very true, but the Kabbalah goes back to the days of Daniel and Ezekiel who were spiritually in tune with God. But also remember that a very large number of Jews excepted Yeshua as the Messiah, it was the small minority of priests and temple officials who, in the dark of night while the masses were sleeping, drug him away to his trials and execution. You said; This business of keeping the Torah smacks of works salvation which Paul labeled anathema (Your translation of "faith" sounds as if faith MEANS works). Can you show me this passage of Pauls? You said; You also have inferred that our bibles are tainted with the particular doctrines of the translators. Perhaps you, a scholar of Hebrew (are'nt you?), could provide us with a PURE translation. I am not a scholar of Hebrew but a student, yes I could translate it, and have done portions, but it would be just as tainted with my beliefs as any other. You cannot remove biasness from any translation as the Hebrew can be translated many different ways. You said; Your doctrines seem to reflect a jewish form of new age gnostisism. I can see how would see that, but I don’t, I see it ias returning to the original beliefs of God. To be honest, we see modern day Christianity as a new age gnostisism :-). Shalom Simchat Torah |
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35 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53386 | ||
Shalom Johnny; You said; What is it anyway, I did disobey when I going to love God with all my heart, soul, might and etrength did I break the law when I did this? this question I raised in my previous post and you ignore to answer. The Torah shows us how to love God by keeping the Shabbat, the feasts, abstaining from certain foods, etc, your relationship with God is between you and him just as mine is between him and I. This is how I show love to God, I do not know how you do it, but I would be curious. You said; I am not saying that the command of the supreme being is bad I did not mentioned this, you accused me here in the things that I never committed. You must hate paul because what he was written is the one i am using to discuss with you. You are correct and I apologize for that, I am continually accused of this and made the statement without thinking. I guess a better question is if I do follow there Torah is there any harm in it? You said; Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. You also said; I am not the one saying this my friend, it is the apostle of Christ, are they crazy when they write it? I agree with this, the covenant at Sinai is replaced by the new covenant. You said; f you decide to rest on saturday its okay, God rest on Sabbath day, then you should hate Christ because He decide to do works on Sabbath day. He heal sick He gathered corn to eat with His desciples on sabbath day. Yeshua never broke the Shabbat command, he simply violated the additional laws that the Pharisees added to the Shabbat, these are what he had a problem with. You must recognize that Yeshua followed the Torah perfectly, as to be without sin (especially before the cross) meant that you did the Torah perfectly, as sin in defined by the Torah. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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36 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53340 | ||
Shalom Johnny; I love God, his Teachings, and Yeshua the Messiah with all my heart. My sole purpose is to do his will. But, I am not a Christian for the obvious reasons that you can see in my posts. I do not hold to standard Christian doctrine. You accuse me of loving Moses more than Yeshua, I do not understand how you got this when I may have only mentioned him once or twice. You may be confusing my love for the Torah with Moses. The Torah comes from God, not Moses. As Yeshua is God, then the Torah comes from him as well. You have stated that you only do what Yeshua says. He says that you are to teach all of the commands of Torah, even the least of them (Mat 5:17-19). You are correct, we cannot observe all of the commands, such as the stoning of one who lights a fire on Shabbat. Unfortunately there is no nation today that has the Torah as its body of law, until that day comes, we will not be able to live according to the Torah completely, but does this mean we throw the baby out with the bath water? If God creates something it must be good, and God created the Torah. How can observing commands given by the Supreme being himself be bad? How can a day of rest be considered evil? No once acusses Christians of being legalists or in bondage because they go to church on Sunday or celebrate Easter or Christmas, why are we considered legalists because we decide to rest on Saturday and celebrate the feasts that God designed? I also belong to the New Covenant of Yeshua as the covenant at Sinai is completed, obsolete and fading away. But remember what Jeremiah said about the New covenant in 31:31-33; "The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them," declares the LORD."This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. About the scriptures you posted; Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Agreed, no one is justified by the Torah but by the grace of God. Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Correct, the old covenant is passed away. Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. This is a quote from the scripture I posted above, The new covenant is not the same as the covenant at Sinai. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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37 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53329 | ||
Shalom Hank; LOL, I liked that, his joke as well as your "infinite wisdom" :-) You have a great Independence day as well. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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38 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53326 | ||
Shalom Ed; Not all of Orthodox Judaism do not reject Kabbalah. The chasidiym are orthodox and most of them have the Kabbalah as a core teaching. While I see the “trinity” within the teachings of Kabbalah, I know that you and others do not, in fact find this thought revolting. That is okay, I do not mind. What kind of world would we live in if everyone believed the same things. My view of the Holy Spirit is probably very different than yours and would be very difficult to explain in this forum. Hank restated his questions on salvation and I have responded to them. Your concluding statement is partially correct. Modern day Judaism is more concerned with how they live their life today rather than where they will go at the end of it. To me this is much more in line with Yeshua who was continually attempting to teach love and life for that day. Mat 6:34 – Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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39 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53323 | ||
Shalom Hank; Sorry that I didn’t fully answer your question. I would be happy to answer all your questions honestly and fully, but let me first explain something. How one defines a word will impact how one perceives it. For instance, the word faith is understood by most in these forums as a strong belief in something or someone that it will do what it is suppose to do, or do what he says he will do. I on the other hand see this word to mean, based on the Hebrew word emunah, that it means that we will take care of it, or do what he asks. These two views are opposing rather than synonymous. With this in mind, I will answer your questions with your understanding of the words. I hope I made this made sense to you :-). [a] Do you believe that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone? Yes, it is by the atoning blood of Yeshua and the grace of God that I will be found worthy of the life to come. [b] Is it your belief that the redemptive work that Jesus accomplished on the cross constitutes our sole means of salvation? Yes, but this does not negate our responsibility to show love toward God and our neighbor. It is not by my works that I am found righteous, but faith without works is dead. [c] Do you accept and trust Jesus Christ and Him alone as your Lord and Savior? Yes [d] Would you call yourself a Christian? No, only for the fact that a Christian holds to certain doctrines that I do not. The label “Christian” has a specific meaning within our culture and I do not wish to carry this label. Btw, if I am correct and Yeshua and his disciples spoke in Hebrew, the Hebrew word would be meshianiy (messianic) not Christian. I do not call myself messianic either as messiainic is synonymous with Christianity in most cases. We prefer the term haderekiym (followers of the way) I do not mean to put you through an uncomfortable or embarrassing inquisition, my friend, but in light of some of the questions and issues that have been raised by several posts, yours and others, I do feel these questions are not entirely out of line. But of course you are at liberty to answer or ignore them, precisely as you wish. I completely understand your position and have to say that I admire it. You are concerned for me as well as others in the room who are reading my posts. I don’t know if this forum has moderators, but I have been in others where there are. If a moderator, or the forum as whole wishes that I not discuss certain areas, I am fine with that. It is not my intention here to “stir” the pot (well maybe a little :-). Nor is it my intention to flood the forums with posts. I have only asked a couple of questions and answered a few, but have been swamped with responses to those. I do apologize for causing such a stink, (or is this normal for the forums :-). I believe that the only way to grow in the words of God is to look at other beliefs. Our view of scripture is very dynamic rather than static. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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40 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | Simchat Torah | 53320 | ||
Shalom Steve; I understand yours and other Christians view of the Torah, I on the other hand hold to a different opinion. Yeshua followed the Torah, we are to follow him which means that we are to follow Torah. As Peter said in 2 Peter 3:15,16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; wherein are some things hard to be understood, which the ignorant and unstedfast wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. The law that Paul is speaking about here is not the Torah, it is the covenant given at Sinai. I know that most see these as synonymous but they are not. Paul says that the law was given 430 years after Abraham (Gal 3:17), but Abraham obeyed the Torah (Gen 26:5, the Hebrew word for laws is Torah in this passage). What was introduced 430 years after Abraham? The covenant at Sinai. Romans 7:6 would then read; But now we are released from the covenant, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve not under the old written code (The Torah was not written down until it was done so at Sinai) but in the new life of the Spirit (The original intended way in which the Torah was to be observed, with a heart of flesh, see Ez 36:26,27). Shalom Simchat Torah |
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