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21 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136979 | ||
Hi Colin, You broke the thread, so it took me awhile to trace back and even so, I don't know what you're asking. You said, "pcdarcan, If He is God over all (Rom 9.5), how is He not also God over Satan and his ilk? James certainly concurs (James 2:19)." I didn't say that, Morant61 (T.M.) said "He is God over all". In reading your new post and because the logic of the thread was broken (as you appear to have responded to my earlier post), I have no idea what you are asking - maybe its me. Could you re-ask the "full" question and I would be more than happy to answer it. Thank you. |
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22 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136972 | ||
Not sure I understand your question. He's "the god of this world" 2 Cor 4:4. It doesn't say: "the false god of this world". The answer is contained in the verse - I wouldn't try to read anymore into the verse, such as what "type of god" Satan is. The writer/author certainly didn't find it necessary to qualify this. |
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23 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136954 | ||
Did you read the whole response or did you get turned off, not by a personal attack, but more of an observation about his choice of terms "rooted prejudice"? - I explained logically why this didn't apply to all those in this forum as everyone has supplied "scriptural evidences" NOT based on "rooted prejudice". In my book, that's just a "set-up" phrase for his adherents. May I ask, 'What do you read that was so disagreeable or personal?' To set matters right, the Clarke rebuttal response is not at all a personal attack on Clarke himself, which is what you make it sound like in your post. It's a detailed crafted response to each assertion of Clarke, using scripture (the Bible) to explain the disagreement. And, I ask again, what part of the response to Clarke's commentary on 2 Cor 4:4 did you find illogical? You did read it all, yes/no? And, reference all the cited scritures? - after all, this is a Bible Study Forum and specific Bible verses are very relevant to any Bible discussion. |
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24 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136951 | ||
Just to clarify your post, I didn't say "He is God over all". I believe you want to direct this question to the author: Morant61. I simply included his comments (indicated by T.M.) in my post and my responses to his comments are preceded by "pcdarcan". Hope this clarifies things alittle. :) |
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25 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136948 | ||
Hi Tim, Going back to your post, you said, "He is God of all, whether they want to admit it or not". And, I politely disagreed with that statement. To reiterate, just because God is their Creator, doesn't mean He is their God. Your revised statement: "God doesn't stop being God simply because someone doesn't believe in Him!" is probably what you really wanted to say and most would not find issue with that statement. Thanks for the clarification. There are many words in Greek that have similar meanings - various types of apples if you will (macintosh, golden -and- red delicious, cortland, etc.) but they are still apples (just different flavours), so they don't "always" have to be the same exact Greek word when comparing verses. And, there are many verses in the Bible that say the say time, but in different ways and with different words. In conclusion, I rather have the internal scriptural evidence promote the understanding of questionable verses. |
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26 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136892 | ||
Hello Tim, welcome back. T.M.: The term 'world' is used in many different ways in Scripture. Sometimes, it refers to the physical earth. Sometimes, it refers to the 'system' of fallen men who oppose God. Pcdarcan: While this is true, thankfully the scriptures themselves can provide a great help without always having to understand the Greek. In this case, earlier in John 15:18 Jesus said to his disciples: "If the world hates you, keep in mind it hated me first." In this case, I don’t have to know the Greek in this verse to understand that the "world" spoken of is not the "physical earth" because how can the literal earth hate - and even if it could - why would it hate Jesus? ;) So, the second definition above is closer to the understanding, the world of mankind that hated Jesus and his disciples – which btw is another argument to prove that the Creator is not "the god of this world" that promotes hatred of Jesus and his disciples. Again, one doesn’t need to dissect the Greek word in 2 Cor 4:4 to see if it’s the same Greek word in John. The Emphatic Diaglott uses "age" instead of "world", but the Bible's internal evidences is pretty clear about the identity of "the god of this world/age" as displayed in these posts. As a matter of fact, the evidence is overwhelming, if we allow the Bible to speak for itself. T.M.: However, even if the same word were used, your case does not logically follow. Scripture also tells us that God loves the world, that God created the world, that God sent His Son to save the world. Is He not also the God of this world that He created, loves, and saves? :-) He is God of all, whether they want to admit it or not! ;-) Pcdarcan: Ah, but you just said "world" is used in many different ways in Scripture. Jesus died for the 'world of mankind', but John 3:16 shows that the benefits of that sacrifice are conditional – belief is necessary, that’s what the Bible states. And, yes God created the 'world of mankind' and the physical world (a.k.a. earth); however, He is not the God of this world of unbelievers who allow Satan to blind their minds. No, just because He is the Creator doesn't mean He is their God – their way of life belies that statement. 1 Cor 10:20 states "...the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God." So, I just don't agree with the statement "He is God of all, whether they want to admit it or not". I believe it to be a stretch to say that just because He created the world of mankind and provided his Son's life for anyone in the world who would avail themselves of the value of that sacrifice, that He is consequently their God. The Creator is certainly not the God of Satan and the demons. Jesus knew that most of 'the world of sinful mankind' would not accept his ransom sacrifice: “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13,14 |
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27 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136860 | ||
btw: I supplied further scriptural proof of why Satan - and not Jesus' Father - is "the god of this world" in 2 Cor 4:4, but no acknowledgement from you (was it logical or illogical, scriptural or not scriptural?). Excerpt of Jesus prayer to God: "I have given them [Jesus' diciples] your word and the world hated them, for they are not of this world any more than I am of this world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one." John 17:14,15 (NIV) Jesus prayed that God not take the disciples out of the world for they had a preaching commision to enlighten people to the gospel. (Matthew 28:19,20... they were to preach until the end of this age -or- world as we know it.) Jesus also said he and his disciples 'were not of this world'. This would be a strange statement in prayer to "the god of this world" - if you believe this to be God - wouldn't you agree? Of course, since Jesus is 'not of this world', neither is God "the god of this world". These are the scriptures talking, not me. |
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28 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136858 | ||
How is that illogical to the discussion of 2 Cor 4:4? (You're side-stepping my sincere question.) You said you found the rebuttal illogical and not rational. Please provide detailed examples, as this is what fosters healthy Bible discussion and understanding. Your reply has nothing to do with "the meat" of the discussion around 2 Cor 4:4 contained in the 'Clarke's rebuttal' post. Certainly you must have specifics - unless you didn't read all the responses and Bible references in your own copy of the Bible? How else can one prove who 'the god of this world' is unless they use the Bible as the authority? I trust that is what people on this forum want - scriptural support of any purported understanding. I'm sure this would be a worthwhile scriptural discussion, if you would only provide some detailed examples of what you found specifically to be illogical and irrational in the rebuttal dealing specifically with Clarke's commentary on why he feels God - and not Satan - is "the god of this world". What specifically in the rebuttal was illogical? Thank you. |
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29 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136837 | ||
Could you be more specific? What was not logical or understandable? Perhaps I could assist if you were more specific. (Proverbs 4:7). Saying that 'the god of this world' in 2 Cor 4:4 is the Creator - as opposed to Satan - is not logical. And, more importantly is not scriptural. Please consider... Jesus words in prayer to his loving Father is "additional" support that Satan is "the god of this world", and not Jesus' Father: "I have given them [Jesus' diciples] your word and the world hated them, for they are not of this world any more than I am of this world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. "They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world (Compare Heb 3:1 where Jesus is called an apostle - form Greek meaning sent forth one), I have sent them into the world." - John 17:14-18 (NIV) Jesus indicates 'I am not of this world', 'nor are my disciples' and consequently petitions his Father to "protect them from the evil one". Given Jesus' words above, God (the Father of Jesus) cannot be "the god of this world" in 2 Cor 4:4, who "blinded the minds of the unbelivieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ". NASB I am only trying to help with this question about 2 Cor 4:4, so please let me know what you find to be illogical about my response to Clarke's commentary? Thank you. |
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30 | Didn't ALL things come from God, evil to | 1 John 1:5 | pcdarcan | 136793 | ||
Free will. Without it we are simply robots. What a kindness to be created with free will! (We take that for granted sometimes, don't we.) Think about it, without free will, we would be nothing more than a computer program - acting out the programmers commands with no choice (ever). Ah, free will is a great gift - but like any gift it can be abused, both by man AND angels. A good illustration to help one see how free-will can be mis-used is this: can we say that a baby is born a thief, bigot, or a murderer? Not really. But, a baby can sure become a "thief, bigot, or a murderer" and as a result, bring evil upon their fellow man. Ah! Did you note that verb, "become". Interesting that the name Satan means "resister [of God]" and Devil means "slanderer [of God]". Any angel that would turn away from the Creator can only have "evil" on their mind because they opt not to serve their Creator, of which Love is His cardinal quality (1 John 4:8) "God is Love". |
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31 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136787 | ||
Clarke's commentary uses Jesus and Paul's quote from Isaiah 6:9,10 to prove that God is the one doing the blinding. If you have found this interesting... Please see a rebuttal to Clarke's commentary - it's two Parts. I go line-by-line, stating Clarke's thought or position first, followed by a response. It's "reasonably" long and a good read because it contains many scriptures to reason on. I trust you and others will enjoy it. Please check out: ID# 136012 Questions and/or Subjects for 2 Cor 4:1 Author Date (Eastern Time) 2 corn. 4:4 the god of this world hath b (?) matronsgt13 Tue 10/26/04, 8:38am Specifically, these posts... Part 1 - "exceedingly unlikely" - but ... pcdarcan Wed 10/27/04, 4:52pm Part 2 - "exceedingly unlikely" - but ... pcdarcan Wed 10/27/04, 5:04pm |
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32 | I would like to know the original prayer | Matt 6:9 | pcdarcan | 136446 | ||
Thanks for the feedback. I know that understanding these scriptural points has helped make my personal prayers to feel like they are my own, and not someone else's, albeit my fellow Christians are all praying for God's kingdom to come and for his will to take place on earth as in heaven... and additional similar scriptural thoughts of course. :) And, I love that Christians can pray for personal issues as long as they harmonize with God's will. God's peace be with you. |
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33 | Vote against abortion | Prov 29:2 | pcdarcan | 136285 | ||
Proverbs 29:2 is an observation highlighting the stark contrast of righteous rule vs. unrighteous rule of mankind towards their subjects. Christians are focused on the righteous rulership of God's kingdom for solving all of mankind's problems for "a man's life is not his own, it is not for man to direct his steps" - Jeremiah 10:23. God's servants (like Jeremiah) realize that imperfect mankind cannot direct his own footsteps - never mind ruling himself - and thus Jesus responded to Pilate: "My kingdom is not of this world." - John 18:36 |
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34 | Vote against abortion | Prov 29:2 | pcdarcan | 136284 | ||
True. At God's time and by God's power... (reference Daniel 2:44; 1 John 2:15-17, John 18:19). Matthew 24:14 says, "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come". "No one knows about the day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" - Matthew 24:36. In the meantime, Christians endure: "but he who stands firm to the end will be saved." - Matthew 24:13 |
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35 | Vote against abortion | Prov 29:2 | pcdarcan | 136271 | ||
"They [Jesus disciples] are not of the world, even as I am not of it." - John 17:16 (NIV) "Jesus said, 'My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my Kingdom is from another place.'" - John 18:36 (NIV) "You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God." - James 4:4 (NIV) "We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one." - John 5:19 (NIV) |
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36 | One God, One Jesus Christ | 1 Cor 8:5 | pcdarcan | 136232 | ||
"Remarkedly Good" translation as brought out in: "Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament." Personally, I like using several Bibles on an on-going basis - its good to see how tranlators translate the Bible, esp. the NT. I came across this article of work: "Truth in Translation": Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament" and found it to be of interest to serious Bible students. In order to assess the reliability of tranlators of the NT, Jason BeDuhn, associate professor of religious studies at Northern Arizona University, in Flagstaff, Arizona, USA, examined and compared for accuracy eight major tranlations, including the "New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures". Regarding this translation, while critical of some of its translation choices, BeDuhn called the "New World Translation" a "remarkably good" translation, "better by far" and "consistently better" than some of the others considered. Overall, he said it "is one of the most accurate English translations of the New Testament currently available" and "the most accurate of the translations compared". Mr. BeDuhn also noted that many tranlators were subject to pressure "to paraphrase or expand on what the Bible does say in the direction of what modern readers want and need it to say". On the other hand, the "New World Translation" is different, observed BeDuhn, because of "the greater accuracy of the NW as a literal, conservative translation of the original expressions of the New Testament writers." Please don't shoot the messenger (me); I found Mr. BeDuhn statements to be of interest to all in this forum who engage in serious Bible Study. |
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37 | for by grace you have been saved through | Heb 10:26 | pcdarcan | 136227 | ||
Q. His was the greatest sacrifice, don't you agree? Absolutely... "For you know that it was not with perishable things... that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect." - 1 Peter 1:18,19 (NIV) "But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs ['every high priest' in verse 3] as the convenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one ['the law in verse 4], and it is founded on better promises." - Heb 8:6 (NIV) "...with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect". |
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38 | for by grace you have been saved through | Heb 10:26 | pcdarcan | 136205 | ||
Q. 1) in the Bible, where is the term "greater sacrifice" found in conjunction with Jesus? Also, since it's in the comparative, greater than what? Animal sacrifices? A. Hebrews 10:1-4, Hebrews 7:26-28, Hebrews 9:13,14, and John 1:29 Q. 2) Where did you find the last qotation: "If we deliberately keep on sinning..."? A. Hebrews 10:26 |
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39 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136169 | ||
I'm going to check out that link - thank you! btw: Some (like Clarke's commentary) use Jesus and Paul's quote from Isaiah 6:9,10 to supposedly prove that God is the one doing the blinding. Please see my response to this - it's two Parts. I go line-by-line, stating Clarke's thought or position first, followed by a response. It's not short, but its "reasonably" long and a good read because it contains many scriptures to reason on. I trust you and others will enjoy it. Please check out: ID# 136012 Questions and/or Subjects for 2 Cor 4:1 Author Date (Eastern Time) 2 corn. 4:4 the god of this world hath b (?) matronsgt13 Tue 10/26/04, 8:38am I have a New Living Traslation bible and... xmikx Tue 10/26/04, 12:14pm Specifically, these posts... Part 1 - "exceedingly unlikely" - but ... pcdarcan Wed 10/27/04, 4:52pm Part 2 - "exceedingly unlikely" - but ... pcdarcan Wed 10/27/04, 5:04pm |
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40 | God has given: What is eternal life? | 1 John 5:11 | pcdarcan | 136152 | ||
Good reply Ray, for "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness..." - 2 Tim 3:16 And, we can certainly thank our Creator for providing us with the great "apostle" (Gk: 'sent forth one'), Jesus Christ. "Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling [Rev 14:1-5], fix your thoughts on Jesus, THE APOSTLE and high priest whom we confess". - Hebrews 3:1 (New International Version) Yes, we can all thank God for 'sending out' his son, Jesus Christ on behalf of all sinful mankind (Ro 5:12). Amen. |
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