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21 | Men having long hair a disgrace? | 1 Cor 11:7 | Immanuelsown | 208617 | ||
srbaegon, Just wondering why your answer is ----"In both cases, the answer is most likely," "No." Is there anyplace where it says, they had short hair? Or do we assume this, because it was the custom of the time? Or do we get this belief from 1 Cor.11 where it talks about being covered, shaved, shorn, or in verse 14 "if a man have long hair it is a shame unto him" ? The question then arises, why then was it not a shame for Samson, and Samuel to never, in there lives be allowed to cut their hair? Although Samson's was cut once. Seems like long hair to a man is either a shame or it isn't, vow or no vow. We may say, "it was different in Old Testament times." But isn't it believed that John the Baptist, may have also been under a Nazarite vow, also having long hair. I'm not defending long hair for men, just cant see where it is ok one time, and not another. It would appear as though Jesus would have had the Vow of a Nazarite on his life, more than any man ever born, In Him Imm |
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22 | Men having long hair a disgrace? | 1 Cor 11:7 | Immanuelsown | 208628 | ||
humbled, Thank you for the info. In Him Imm |
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23 | Men having long hair a disgrace? | 1 Cor 11:7 | Immanuelsown | 208630 | ||
srbaegon, Appreciate your answer:-) |
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24 | Death God's friend or enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | Immanuelsown | 207548 | ||
FlintyJoe, quote; "You're not bursting my bubble, but I doubt most believe they won't receive everlasting life until after the 1,000 year reign and Satan and the demons have been released to tempt perfected humans again." Eternal life is instantaneous upon conversion. We don't have to wait to die, we are dead in Christ, through baptism. "They think - you die, your judged, you live on a cloud. After all, have you ever went to a funeral where the minister said "Joe is now burning in hell, you can stop praying for him." No. No matter how bad the person, now that he's dead, he's in heaven with Jesus." You will never hear anyone, say anything bad, about the dead, except maybe Hitler. In Him Imm |
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25 | catholic and protestant salvation view | Eph 4:3 | Immanuelsown | 206032 | ||
I am new to the forum, I know these posts were made in "02" but there is scripture speaking to this matter. So I am posting now for people in "08" and beyond. Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. There have been 1,000,000's of Jews in the last 2,000 yrs. that never had the chance for a Salvation of Faith. Based solely on the fact, they were Jews, and therefore blinded to the saving grace of God through Christ. Felt there should be mention of this fact. Puts the case forward for Predestination. Joe made a statement, that sounds like a contradiction of Predestination. 05/26/02 at 9:57pm "It is a matter of the WILL to believe, not the brainpower to do so". Puts the case backward for Predestination. total 1 for-1 against stalemate. |
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26 | Who constitutes the church? | Eph 4:3 | Immanuelsown | 206037 | ||
Lionheart, Thank you for your answer, (1Cor.12) Is more about how the body is to function, and about the gifts of the Spirit. Jesus said, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: (Matt.12:25). We are divided, and have been for along time. According to what Jesus said in this verse, WE, all of the Denominations, are doomed to failure, desolation. Knowing this, why do the denominations refuse to fellowship together. Why is there no one denomination to define the body? My question was: "Who constitutes the church? Body of Christ? With all of the different churches, religions, denominations". I asked it the way I did because, that's all we know. Every Denomination, Espouses the Truth, but it is the Truth as they see it to be. It really Hurts, Greaves my spirit, to see the divisions MAN has created. They weren't created out of Love for the Brethren, they came about mostly because of Pride. Sorry to get on the soapbox. In Him Imm |
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27 | Who constitutes the church? | Eph 4:3 | Immanuelsown | 206055 | ||
DocTrinsograce, I appreciate the input, I found the same type of verse, Matt.13:30 although your verses, and mine, make it sound like we, were sown into a field of Tares, instead of the other way around. However Eph. 4:11-16 Sounds more like a body that can be seen, powerful, vibrant the body isn't supposed to be invisible is it? Universal Church yes, in today's terms though, that only means Global. We as the Body of Christ are to be more than that, we are to be a light to a dark world. Luke 11:33, Matt. 5:14. We are to be in Unity as Christ, and the Father are. Jon. 17:21-23. The reason for all this, is so the Jews will be provoked to Jealousy, it's not all about us, being gathered from all the denominations of the world, it's how do we as the Body of Christ, become a witness to the Jews. Rom.10:19, Deut.32:21, Rom.11:11,12 How can this be accomplished, if we are Invisible. There isn't anything of the Church as it stands today, the Jews want any part of. They look at us as we are, Divided In Him Imm |
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28 | Rejection means never knew? | Eph 4:3 | Immanuelsown | 206121 | ||
Stjohn, Child of God, I would suggest, in Love for the brethern. Both of you go back to 2 Pet. 2:1 and see, just who Peter is talking about,"warning us about". Peter is saying there will be False Teachers, like the False Prophets. Then we are told what will happen to them, and why. 2Pe.2:12,13 I think you both could agree with this assertion . "They ARE NOT SAVED"! They never were. The Teachers. We don't need the Whole counsel of Scripture, the ones I've posted are enough, to understand this chapter. In Him Imm |
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29 | Rejection means never knew? | Eph 4:3 | Immanuelsown | 206155 | ||
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30 | Rejection means never knew? | Eph 4:3 | Immanuelsown | 206178 | ||
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31 | Exasperate - examples? | Col 3:21 | Immanuelsown | 206315 | ||
stjohn, op's sorry, I didn't look at the date, only the post, Exasperate - examples? getsmart The answers given, sounded like they were trying to figure out wether or not, the assigning of rules for there kids, would in some way frustrate them, and that someday the kids would know they had acted foolishly. These are their answers given, in order 1) dmspen "Clearly we cannot, as parents, not set limits or rules. I believe the context here is that we shouldn't set rules that we, as our children's role models, don't follow" 2) cjjeep "sometimes in spite of everything you've done, your children can continue in rebellion nevertheless" "they'll come back and admit to you that they had acted foolishly in their youth" 3) biblesawyer "When my kids do something wrong like they fight sometimes, and don't listen about picking up there mess of toys,.I make them aware of the consequences to there choices" The word Provoke, gives a meaning, that it seemed was missing, in the answers given to getsmart. If you had a Tiger in a cage, and you poked him repeatedly with a stick, do you think, you would get a reaction? Would you be expecting to see, the Tiger roll on it's back and puuur, like a kitten? Provoke in this instance means to Premeditate the outcome of your actions, towards your child, to bring about ANGER. Discouraged, because you are in authority over them, and you are abusing that power, (frustrated) would work in this place as well. Because the child is not aloud to retaliate. From the following definitions, I didn't see where the answers applied, to the verse in questin. As I saw it. Makes me think, of the line in the Lords Prayer, where WE as the CHILD pray, "Lead us not into Temptation" Isn't that what the Forum is for? To clarify scripture, to come to the full understanding of a verse, to me the (KJV) gave a different approach, that's all. Just a question for clarification, this isn't a (NASB, Amplified) Forum only is it? The Free Dictionary Google provoke Verb [-voking, -voked] 1. to deliberately act in a way intended to anger someone: 2. to incite or stimulate: 3. to cause a person to react in a particular, often angry, way: 4. to bring about: [Latin provocare to call forth] pro·voke (pr-vk) tr.v. pro·voked, pro·vok·ing, pro·vokes 1. To incite to anger or resentment. 2. To stir to action or feeling. 3. To give rise to; evoke: 4. To bring about deliberately; induce: Synonyms: provoke, incite, excite, stimulate, arouse, rouse, stir1 These verbs mean to move a person to action or feeling or to summon something into being by so moving a person. Provoke often merely states the consequences produced: The reason I made the distinction between the different translations was, I always read the verse posted at the top of the question asked, in the KJV also I'm sorry, but to me the word exasperate, doesn't carry the same weight that provoke does, to me it sounds like it is something that happens to make the situation worse than it was, where provoke, caused the situation in the first place ex·as·per·ate (g-zsp-rt) tr.v. ex·as·per·at·ed, ex·as·per·at·ing, ex·as·per·ates 1. To make very angry or impatient; annoy greatly. 2. To increase the gravity or intensity of: synonyms aggravate, exacerbate anger - infuriate, incense worsen Hoping this will answer your question, tried to make it short as I could. It all comes down to a different interpretation of the verse. Yes the word provoke was in the Amplified, but with all of the other words there also, it still didn't sound as clear as it does to me in the (KJV). Sorry, but thats my opinion. Colossians 3:21 (NASB) 21) Fathers, do not exasperate your children, so that they will not lose heart. AMPLIFIED 21) Fathers, do not provoke or irritate or fret your children [do not be hard on them or harass them], lest they become discouraged and sullen and morose and feel inferior and frustrated. [Do not break their spirit.] (KJV) 21) Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged. In Him Imm |
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32 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Immanuelsown | 208166 | ||
stjohn, You say, he is the source of all lying. when he said to her, "You will not surely die." and then strays further from truth by saying, "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Did the serpent surely LIE to Eve? Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. For God said afterward. Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: "You will not surely die." Yup that there surely is a lie of Satan. In Him Imm |
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33 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Immanuelsown | 208170 | ||
Humbledbyhisgrace, How about the possibility, of Satan just bringing to Eve's attention that the Tree was there. She knew what God had said about it. Can we assume then both her, and Adam just said OK, when he said don't eat of the fruit, and then promptly forgot about it, believing what God said was true? Gen 3:6 And when the woman (saw) that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. It sounds to me as though she was in transgression before eating, she picked it, at that point she didn't die, she had just told the serpent, God said don't touch it! Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. This scripture might be stretching the point, but she was now looking at the tree with desire, and curiosity can it be applied in different situations? Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. I believe Satan went to Eve, as the weaker vessel, knowing he stood a better chance, than with Adam. Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Could it be that simple? In Him Imm |
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34 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Immanuelsown | 208208 | ||
humbled, In the giving of the command to Adam, not to eat of the fruit, God set the stage, for sin to come into the world Is the Knowledge of Good, and Evil, the same as Sinning? It appears as though the command, gives you the right to choose. The right to choose, can bring Sin. But Sin, or Sinning, isn't the same as the knowledge of good, and evil So there arises a question, "did Adam, and Eve die, because of Sin, or from obtaining the knowledge?" Sin, and Death came into the world, then passed on to us, for the breaking of the Command. (LAW) Rom. 7:14 14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. Everything having to do with the knowledge of good and evil is future, (Choice) The knowledge of Good, and Evil, opens up to mankind, all sorts of sins Jesus told us, Matt. 6:34 34) Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. Jer. 27:9 9) Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon: Rom. 7:8,9 8) But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9) For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. Sin comes from the breaking of the Law, Jas. 1:13,14 13) Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. In Him Imm |
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35 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Immanuelsown | 208230 | ||
humbled, Those are all really good scriptures, but without any explanation, as to what you are saying , they are just quotes of really good scriptures. They all speak truth, I can agree with every scripture you quoted, because they are the word of God, but as to the context in which you are using them, I am oblivious as to your application of each one. I'm not trying to be flippant, I'm saying that when I post a scripture, I try to put with it how I am interpreting it, applying it. I just don't know your thinking, or what you were trying to say with each one. At this point I don't know, if you agree with my post or not. Sorry:-( In Him Imm |
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36 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Immanuelsown | 208244 | ||
Humbled, OK, No Assumptions. These are the questions I have asked myself, in an attempt to get an understanding of who Eve was, and what was her motivation, we can't blame it all on Satan, he did lie to her, everything else was Eve's own doing. 1) How long were Adam, and Eve in the garden, after God gave the command, not to eat the fruit, until Eve was tempted? 2) Why did they not eat of the fruit before that time? 3) What was it, at that particular moment, that made Eve even consider eating of the tree, when she had not before? 4) Just how much different were Adam, and Eve than we are? 5) If they were created perfect, would it have been necessary, for God's command to them? The reason I used the verse, Matt.5:28 was because, according to the words in Gen.3:6 there are attributed to Eve, the same types of thoughts a person after the fall could have. So is this a natural condition, of the heart of Man? If it has always been the condition of the heart of Man, and not the (Fallen Nature) could it then be said, Eve looked on the Tree to lust after the fruit? In lusting after the fruit, then Jas.1:14 then explains Eve's actions. If so, Eve had committed sin already in her heart, before (Touching, or Eating). Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Gen.3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be (desired) to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Jas.1:14,15 14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed." 15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. H2530----DESIRED chamad khaw-mad A primitive root; to delight in: - beauty, greatly beloved, covet, delectable thing, ( great) delight, desire, goodly, lust, (be) pleasant (thing), precious (thing). (Strong's Concordance) My belief in this matter is, the heart of man has not changed, otherwise Eve could not have been tempted. God would not have had to put the Death Penalty on the eating of the fruit. The eating of the fruit, gave us the knowledge of good, and evil. But as we see, it wasn't eating the fruit, that brought sin into the world, it was because of LUST. In looking at this question, I have had to look at my own belief, that Adam, and Eve were created perfect. The following verse explains, being created in the Image, and Likeness of God, we were given dominion over the Earth. Having dominion, also entails having a Free Will, Eve Exercised that Free Will. Gen.1:26 26) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. In Him Imm |
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37 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Immanuelsown | 208261 | ||
Hank, It just warms the cockles of my heart, to see how many of the forum agree with my post. "Hank", sorry old friend, I thought I had stated it plainly in my first two sentences. "OK, No Assumptions." "These are the questions I have asked (MYSELF), in an attempt to get an understanding of who Eve was, and what was her motivation," The post in question was in response to a post from Humbled on 09-01-08 at 9:58 p.m. thats why I said no assumptions, also why I sent the questions. I will do better in the future, didn't mean to cause any confusion. In showing Humbled, the questions I asked myself, I should have written don't answer these. DUH! My mistake. Guess there were to many dots, leaving room for assumption, and speculation to run rampant. Looking on the bright side though, nice to know there was such a consensus of agreement on the rest. In closing, you are absolutely right, this will be my last post on the thread. In Him Imm |
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38 | Women, be silent, or be shamed? | 1 Tim 2:11 | Immanuelsown | 208380 | ||
justme, As far as your question, "How do men today see what shaming their wife is?" You apparently have something in mind. I honestly do not know, what your referring to, by the way you have framed your question. Could you please rephrase it for me? In Him Imm |
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39 | Christians Apostate Same As Anit-Christ? | 1 Tim 4:1 | Immanuelsown | 206445 | ||
bowler, I neglected to say, when a person becomes an Apostate, it doesn't follow that they automatically become Anti Chrict, they just fall away, there hearts, and minds are darkend to the truth. They would rather believe the lie. (my opinion) In Him Imm |
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40 | Why is love philandros not agapao? | Titus 2:4 | Immanuelsown | 206983 | ||
bowler, Ephesians 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. Reverence: 1: honor or respect felt or shown : deference; especially : profound adoring awed respect 2: a gesture of respect (as a bow) synonyms: (honor, homage, reverence, deference) mean respect and esteem shown to another. (honor) may apply to the recognition of one's right to great respect or to any expression of such recognition (homage) adds the implication of accompanying praise (reverence) implies profound respect mingled with love, devotion, or awe (deference) implies a yielding or submitting to another's judgment or preference out of respect or reverence Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary As we read the verses on the Virtuous woman, we see her esteeming others above herself, everything she does is first, for her Husbands Honor, then she esteems her children, above herself, working for their benefit. Proverbs 31:10-31 We as the Bride of Christ, are to reverence the Lord, (as our husband), and to esteem the brethren above ourselves. (As the children of the Father) 1) If the man is to love his wife, as Christ loves the church, and gave himself for it, 2) Then the wife should have the same love for her husband, as the Church has for Christ. 3) That's as close as I can come to expressing, the kind of (LOVE) she should have for her husband. In Him Imm |
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