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1921 | Jesus earth: God/man or just man? | NT general Archive 1 | Ray | 5722 | ||
Hi Nolan Keck, I'm not in an agrumentative mood today. I liked your posting with Lionstrong on 5/12 regarding the Trinity. I liked your recent posting where you gave references of each Person being the Truth. What I would like to talk to you about is where you say here that, "But Jesus is the only one of the Three of the Holy Trinity that has given us access to a Way that we can be in a right relationship with God." Look at your posting again and see if you can not capitalize the other words of "way". Look at John 14:4 with me, but in the NKJ because they have the pronouns that I see in different order. "And where I go you know, and the Way you know."NKJ John 14:5,"Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the Way? Jesus said to him, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me." And then the big question in verse 7 is, "Do we know Him?" I see God saying in verse two, "I go to prepare a place for you." I see the the Man being spoken to in verse five, ..."we do not know where You are going,..." I see the Spirit saying to us, "Do you know Me?" I do not claim to have all the answers or know everything, but I am just sharing what I believe as a fellow brother in Christ. Later, Ray |
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1922 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 5657 | ||
Hi Buf, I'm sorry if I misjudged you and maybe I can get to know you better. Please notice the "If" of my posting earlier also. The verse you have in mind here in Matthew 28 has Jesus certainly speaking for Himself as God. The people had just worshipped Him and there is only one God to be worshipped, even as you have said perhaps in former postings. At least you've said that there are not three Gods. I am a person who is obsessed with capitalization as some may think (or know). So my "if" of the last posting was a concern that I have that people know Jesus as Lord. That's His name. He wasn't a lord, or just a man. Jesus in my mind was not a man but a Man. He is God and not a god. That was what I wanted to express and make clear for your thinking as well. You have expressed that you do not believe in three Gods (and I do not either), and infer I believe a definite leaning away from the Trinity. I think you have stated that you believe that Jesus and the Father are one. Which One is to be worshipped then? The Lord Jesus or the Lord God who was not known by His name "Lord"? You may be leaning toward thinking of them both as Spirit. I wouldn't find fault with that. I think you have written that the Jesus' flesh was under control of the spirit. I would have chosen a capital S but that's all right. Let me know more of your thoughts so we can study together perhaps. Whatever, Later, Ray |
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1923 | Is Jesus the 'Eternal Father'? | Is 9:6 | Ray | 5479 | ||
Hi Nolan Keck, Can you tell me why scripture translators need a son of man? Can you tell me why Isa 9:6 in our beloved NASB has every pronoun capitalized except "a Child" and "a Son"? What are the scriptures that prove Christ was fully man? | ||||||
1924 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 5409 | ||
Hi Buf, I'd like to talk to you about Col 3:17 of which you and charis have been talking concerning the name of the Lord Jesus. Verse sixteen talks about "singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God." Then, "do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks... to God the Father." Notice "giving thanks through Him to God the Father." I would like to compare and contrast a verse in Hebrews 13:14, "Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name. And do not neglect doing good and sharing; for with such sacrifices God is pleased." I think that we would do well to remember that the one sent is not greater than the one who sent him. I couldn't find the verse. I was led to John 7:15. NASB "The Jews then were astonished, saying, "How has this man become learned, having never been educated? So Jesus answered them and said, "My teaching is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who is seeking the glory of the One who sent Him, He is true, and there is no unrighteousness in Him. Did not Moses give you the Law, and yet none of you carries out the Law? Why do you seek to kill Me?" They were seeking to kill this unlearned Man because they didn't know Him. If you, Buf, don't know who gave Him the authority to do the things that He did, and rely simply on the man, Jesus, then you are not judging with righteous judgment but according to appearance. |
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1925 | Folks, It's Time for A Change! | Phil 2:14 | Ray | 5232 | ||
Hi Jim, I love to talk about the Oneness of God because that's what got me into the study of the Trinity years ago. I'll be glad to talk about it anytime. If you do talk to me about anything, you'll have to remember that I'm involved in capitalization. For instance, you write that you are afraid that people will decide "that God was anything but one." What would you say if I'm afraid that people will decide "that God is anything but One?" The NASB reads in John 10:30,"I and the Father are one." I hope that in a new copyright translation that they will capitalize the word One. The NKJ John l0:30 reads, "I and My Father are one." That is an acceptable translation to me also. It is harder to understand how "I and My" can be be linked together as one, but no one said that the coming of God to earth was a simple thing to explain. In other words, any discussion is only fruitful if the Deity of Christ is accepted by the parties. Can I talk to you about another word that you did not capitalize? I capitalize the word Truth; for instance, John 8:32, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the Truth, and the Truth will make you free." and v.36, ...the Son does remain forever. So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.'" I do believe that we should all continue to search for and proclaim the truth as you have stated. Now, maybe you can help me decide on another capitalization problem I haven't decided on. Phil 2:16 reads, actually it is the end of the sentence of the scripture of this tree, "...holding fast the word of life, so that in the day of Christ I may have cause to glory because I did not run in vain nor toil in vain." You capitalized the word "Life" with 2Timothy 2:14 in mind, "handling accurately the word of truth.'" As I said above we should all continue to search for the truth in God's word. I think that I agree with your capitalization. I was also considering capitalizing Philippians 1:27, "standing firm in one Spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel." So my question to you is this, "Which one of these words would you think should be capitalized as speaking of the Deity of Christ?" |
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1926 | Jesus earth: God/man or just man? | NT general Archive 1 | Ray | 5143 | ||
Hi adonastorg, I'm still looking for a disciple of the Man, Jesus Christ. I'm trying to instill in people the knowledge of the Deity of this Man. Again, I pay close attention to capitalization. In your response you had three "words". Two were capitalized and one was lower case. Were you saying that the Word and the word are the same? I believe that the three Persons can indeed be separated in the sense that we as people can be separated into three parts; body, mind, and spirit. If we as people are three in one in a sense, so is God. But I say also, and this is not from the Lord (as Paul would say), that there are three individual Persons who are fully individual and three in one in the sense of mind, body, and spirit, coequal, and collectively Three in One. Father, Son, and Spirit; Son, Father and Spirit Spirit, Spirit, and Spirit The above arrangement is the way I visualize the Triune God. In my mind I would need nine words to totally encompass the Godhead. Three for each Person in other words. Nine words, but they are all one Word. Look at John 1:1. There are three words of Word. There are nine pronouns in the first verses. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. This One was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that came into being." John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,..." verse 30, "This is He on behalf of whom I said, 'After me comes a Man who has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.'" Thus, I say that Jesus is the God/Man. Feedback from anyone please. |
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1927 | Christ rose bodily, didn't he? | 1 Cor 15:21 | Ray | 5142 | ||
Hi Elijah, I see an excess of words here and no excuse for not answering questions. Where are your bible references? I think that is a reasonable request of any man on this forum. | ||||||
1928 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | Ray | 5092 | ||
Hi everyone, There are churches that believe that Matt 28:19 was a commission to the Jewish believers and that baptism is a work that believers do not need to perform. They would say that Paul did not stress it. We are saved by grace alone. Whether this is true or not, the churches that I had contact with in this Grace Movement were bible believing and loved the Lord. Their lack of water baptism will not exclude them from heaven any more than the "right words" from your ministers in a baptism service will assure members immediate approval for heaven. |
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1929 | Why five words? | 1 Cor 14:19 | Ray | 4955 | ||
Hi Hank, The difference between ten thousand and five isn't what is important. If that were the case Paul should have used the number one. What is important is that the ten thousand were not understood and the five can be if sought out. Sooner, Ray P.S. There is a difference between numerology and the significance of numbers in the bible. | ||||||
1930 | Is there another helper? | John 5:43 | Ray | 4894 | ||
Hi Hank, I'm sorry I didn't thank you for your reply right away. What did your commentators say about Another as an adjective? What did they say about the false Christ coming in His name? What do you think about John 7:52? |
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1931 | Have I misunderstood your question? | John 6:56 | Ray | 4873 | ||
Hi JVH, We have a "debate" starting today and it could be that it needs at least a couple of moderators, or "media" people to give their views as the debate is in progress. Or should we rate them afterwards for their references, demeanor, bias or whatever? First, I think our viewers need to know that the scripture at hand is 2 Corinthians 5:19, "namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He (or having committed) has committed to us the word of reconciliation." The comparison verse seems to be John 6:56, "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him." So what do you think JVH? Are the rules going to be followed? Any time limits here? Just limitted to scripture, right? It appears that sharp hasn't answered the question posed yet but he has set forth some of his basic thoughts. Sharp, if you can hear a moderator or one from the crowd, "Who was Jesus praying to in the gospel of John?" That would have been chapter seventeen, right, JVH? JVH, your Baker Topical Guide to the Bible is very good, isn't it? You know though that I with my interest in capitalization would wish that men and angels were lower case. But I understand the outline and the title main words capitalized, etc. Later, Ray P.S. I'll get back with you if I still have a job. |
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1932 | Have I misunderstood your question? | John 6:56 | Ray | 4867 | ||
I wish I had a double post (instead of that deletion of the best thoughts a person has ever had.) :) | ||||||
1933 | Scripture is clear if we are open, right | Acts 11:1 | Ray | 4821 | ||
Hi Phillip, Thanks for your note and I praise God with you. He is good. I don't believe that we need to speak in tongues in order to show that we have the Holy Spirit or salvation. I thought that perhaps that was what sharp was alluding to. I think that there are times when people lump the filling, resting, falling upon, indwelling of, the Holy Spirit or even holy spirit into one type of experience. And they can be very different. I think that we both can fine tune what the difference of the indwelling and the baptism of the Holy Spirit is for us according to the scriptures. I might say right now that I believe that the being filled with the holy spirit should be lower case although I believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Later, Ray |
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1934 | Have I misunderstood your question? | John 6:56 | Ray | 4817 | ||
Hi sharp, I'll ask you what I have asked others in the forum. Can I get you to capitalize the man Christ Jesus? When you get to heaven and see your God is he going to be a man? | ||||||
1935 | Is there another helper? | John 5:43 | Ray | 4792 | ||
Hi Hank, I thank you very much for your reply to my question. My short question reads another helper and in that case the word another would be an adjective. But I believe that Another is as much a personal pronoun as the He of the end of the verse. Most but not all pronouns are capitalized in the NASB and certainly the last copyright has more than the original. I think that there is too much between verse 32 and the testimony of the Father in verse 38 for Him to be speaking of the Father's words. In other words the verses in between talk of John's testimony and the testimony of the works done. I thank you for your reference to Matthew 24:3 for it compares very well with John 5:43. Mt 24:3b, "Tell us, when will theses things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?" compared with Jn 5:43, "..if Another comes..." Let me tell you why I don't think that this another speaks of the false Christs. John 5:43 reads, "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, you will receive him." If another were the false Christ he wouldn't be coming in his own name, but in Christ's name. But you are right, "See that no one misleads you. For many will come in My name, saying 'I am the Christ', and will mislead many." Jesus said "I am" and we know who He is. The trouble is, many can be misled because English does not allow us to say "i am He". Truth does not allow us to say that. But it sure does show the contrast between man and the Man, Jesus doesn't it? Do you see why capitalization is important? |
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1936 | Baptism, Trinity, and Teachers? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 4782 | ||
Hi jim, My thinking on Acts 2 is that this is the baptism of the Spirit. Verse 17, "pour forth of My Spirit on all mankind." They realized who this Man was. Verse 28, "You have made known to me the ways of life; You will make me full of gladness with Your presence." Verse 36, they "know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ--this Jesus whom you crucified." They were sorry for their sins individually and collectively for not knowing who He was and for what they had done. They accepted as true the scriptures quoted to them and received the gift of the Holy Spirit. Verse 39,"For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself." Verse 41, "So then, those who had received his word were baptized;..." That was what was expected, believe and be baptized. So I found comparison of verse 28 and 39 and Acts 3:17-19 meaningful for me. Personally, baptism wasn't an option for me. I had been baptized as a baby and one baptism was enough for my church. I expressed faith in Christ as my Savior, and Lord as was expected for membership and that was it. If I had been a new believer without a Christian tradition and not baptized as a baby, then I would have been required to be baptized also. I believe that that is the way of most denominations who believe in infant baptism. |
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1937 | Baptism, Trinity, and Teachers? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 4775 | ||
Hello anybody following Baptism, Trinity and Teachers, Jim, let me pick on your choice of words just in order to make a point. You spoke of the way to "get the job done". This reminded me of the fact that baptism isn't a work that I have to have accomplished. It isn't a work that a preacher can do even "in Jesus' name". I've considered immersion because of a TV preacher, Charles Stanley, and because my wife found it meaningful years ago, and I know the symbolism of it all is great, and it is a good tradition and opportunity of profession of faith on a person's part. Jim, when I was looking at your Ephesians reference I read chapter 2:1, "And your were dead in your trespasses and sins...v.4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),...not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." So even without the washing away of our sins symbolically by baptism we are saved by God's love. This may still be a "good work" that I could do, but I haven't decided if it's something I should do. It is something that I would have done. See Ephesians 2:10 Ephesians 4:4 says,"There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all." So if I have a choice of baptisms, I would choose the one Spirit's, if you please. Later, Ray P.S. Please consider answering a question I will be posting. Sorry, it will be about capitalization of a verse. |
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1938 | Baptism, Trinity, and Teachers? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 4729 | ||
Hi, I've recently considered whether I should be immersed even though I was baptized when I was a baby. But you guys influence me to lean toward the belief of the Grace churches who don't believe in water baptism at all. Paul was not one to stress baptism; maybe its more a Jewish thing. Its certainly not a work that is going to get you into heaven on its own. The Grace churches would call this Mt 28:19 passage a commission but not a Great Commission. If I do decide to be immersed, should I worry about what is said in the service? I think not. I think that a Great Commision baptism would include one where we are washed in the renewing of our mind, where scriptures are taught about the three Persons of the one Spirit, where disciples are made, teachings followed, commandments obeyed, and a relationship created with God for all time. |
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1939 | Jesus' name baptism? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 4727 | ||
Hi melchizadekau, can I call you mel? I need a scripture reference here. | ||||||
1940 | TRINITY | Bible general Archive 1 | Ray | 4393 | ||
Hi retxar, I'm glad if I helped. It's 11:00 P.M. now for me so keep that in mind as I talk (I did have a nap today, though). Isn't it great that while bible studying we can have a personal talk with God as we try to determine all that is involved in the scriptures! And it's great that we can change our minds as we study for there is always more to discover. Our God is alive and active. I say that it is a personal study for in the reference to Ex 3 and the angel or Angel we have to decide for ourselves. And don't worry about leading anyone astray for it isn't something that is major enough to affect salvation. Another similar situation of angel or Angel is a passage later in Genesis about Jacob wrestling with God and men and that He had seen God face to face. It looks like you're going to cause me to reread Genesis since the new copyright of my NASB. One of the things I will be considering again is whether to capitalize the breath of Life in Genesis 2:7;6:17; or Rev 11:11. But not now. What do you personally think? Later, Ray |
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