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181 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114133 | ||
Vehement Disagreement.................................... Hi Hank, I'm disappointed by your last post. I made two posts in response to Ray within 1 minute of each other. They were right on top of each other on the webpage, and I have to assume you read them both. In the first one I pointed out no less than 6 passages in the Old Testament that spoke of the Holy Spirit being "in" people there. In fact, I have stated throughout this entire thread that I believe the Holy Spirit was active in the Old Testament. Then you ignore all of that and instead focus on one phrase from my second response to Ray that the Holy Spirit does not come "into the heart" of anyone in the Old Testament. You take that one phrase out of it's context and then make it sound like I don't believe the Holy Spirit came on people in the Old Testament. You characterize me falsely, and in an irresponsible manner. As a forum leader, I expect more of you. |
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182 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114129 | ||
Agreement................................................... Hi again Jcsav, I agree that in God there is neither Jew or Gentile. I also agree that as humans there is still a definition of "Jew" and "Gentile". I also agree that the Church today has some people who would be classified as "Jews" and others who would be classified as "Gentiles". For instance, my wife has some Jewish ancestry, and I do not think that I have any myself. And we are both believers and a part of the Church today :) |
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183 | Will we be learning in Heaven? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 114128 | ||
Alternative View....................................... Hi SonSpired, There are a lot of things that we don't know about Heaven. And I don't think that the Bible says for sure whether we will know everything when we get there or keep learning. I personally believe that we will continue to learn while we are there. I think it would be boring in a way otherwise. As for EdB's belief about "heaven" and the "new earth" and the "new Jerusalem", I think that they are just 3 names for the same place. Most Christians do believe that they will go to Heaven. I have read some of EdB's old posts about this subject, and I think I understand where he is coming from. I just wanted to point out that his interpretation, although possible, is not the most common one. |
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184 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114123 | ||
I need clarification............................................. Hi Ray, You said that you believe the Holy Spirit came the same way to people in the Old Testament as He does to us. I think that Makarios brought up a similar view, that the only difference was just the increased number of people who the Holy Spirit comes to now. If that is the case, then how do you explain the Galations chapter 4 passage that jcsav brought up. It seems to say that the Holy Spirit now comes "into our heart" becuase we are "sons" of God after Christ and no longer "servants" of God like in the Old Testament. That passage seems to indicate a new kind of relationship with God leading to a new kind of filling with the Holy Spirit. There aren't any passages in the Old Testament that say the Holy Spirit comes into someone's heart. What do you think? |
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185 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114122 | ||
Here's the verses you asked for................................. Hello again Ray, I am aware of your personal study on capitaliztion, although I must admit that I most of your posts on the subject are beyond me. Your dedication to your study is quite impressive though. As for the current topic, you mentioned a need for verses where the Holy Spirit dwells "in us". I would point you towards some that Makarios pointed me to. Gen 41:38, Num 27:18, Dan 4:8, 5:11-14, Ex 31:3, and Ex 35:31 all talk about the Holy Spirit being "in" people of the Old Testament. Rom 8:9-11, 1 Cor 3:16, Eph 2:22, Eph 3:16-17, 2 Tim 1:14, and James 4:5 all refer to the Holy Spirit dwelling "in" believers after Christ. |
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186 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114094 | ||
Disagreement............................................ Hi Jcsav, I want to thank you again for pointing me to the Galations 4 passage. It has been helpful for my thinking and also assisted coming to consensus with EdB on this issue. However, I think that I disagree with your interpretation of the passage. You seem to be saying that the passage is comparing Jews and Gentiles. I think that instead he is comparing God's people in the Old and New Testament. In the Old Testament, God's people were the Jews and they were under bondage to the law (Gal 4:1-3). Then the critical change happened when Jesus came (Gal 4:4) and God's people were all those who believed, whether Jew or Gentile. Furthermore, the relationship of God to His people changed from a master/servant relationship to a father/son relationship (Gal 4:5-7). What do you think? |
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187 | What about other countries? | Rom 13:1 | Sir Pent | 114090 | ||
My answer from 2 perspectives................................... Hello again God's Child 20, The first thing that pops in my head is the question, "Does your country have laws for marriage that require an official document, and recognition from an authority (Minister or Justice of the Peace, etc.)?" If your country does, then it really doesn't matter about other countries. The second thing that I think of is that all countries and cultures have some traditions and requirements for marriage. I would say that a Christian should follow them as long as they don't specifically contradict anything in the Bible. |
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188 | What exactly is Marriage? | Rom 13:1 | Sir Pent | 114024 | ||
My answer from 3 perspectives.............................. Hi God's Child 20, I have a few thoughts on your question. The first is that your friend is right, in a way. I will quote from a previous post of mine: "There are multiple passages of scripture that seem to indicate that the act of sex between a man and a woman is a God designed way of uniting them into one, just like marriage. For instance, in Exodus (22:16) and Deutoronomy (22:28-29), it says that once a couple has had sex they must marry. This process of joining a man and woman together was part of God’s plan from the beginning when he made Adam and Eve (Genesis 2:24). This idea is not limited to the Old Testament either. Jesus even refers to it in Matthew 19:4-6 and Mark 10:6-8. Therefore, it seems that the act of sex is not limited to just the physical body, but also contains a deeper element that unites the spirit of two people in marriage." My second thought is that you are right, in a way. Jesus taught that we should give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's (Mark 12:17). In other words, we should obey the authority of the government as long as it doesn't contradict the authority of God (Rom 13:1-3). The authority says that we should have a piece of paper to be married, and God doesn't ever indicate that it is a bad thing to have a piece of paper to go with your marriage. Therefore, I believe that we should obey the laws of our land and get married legally before having sex. My third thought is that although sex may unite you with another person in God's eyes, no one else will no about it. I think that it is very healthy for a marriage to begin with a public commitment to a lifelong relationship. This is another good reason to have the ceremony. |
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189 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114016 | ||
So we agree after all............................ Hi EdB, So it seems that we are in agreement here that the critical change between the Old and New Testaments (relating to the Holy Spirit's methods) is our relationship with God. This transition to becoming sons of God is what enabled the Holy Spirit to come in a new way. |
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190 | Version vs Version - Again | Gen 6:1 | Sir Pent | 114014 | ||
Disagreement............................ Hi Ikeepoo68, I disagree that God put people on other planets. I also disagree that these non-existent people came to Earth. I also disagree that these non-existent people were giants and mistaken for Gods. Do you have any places in scripture that lead you to believe any of these things? |
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191 | Version vs Version - Again | Gen 6:1 | Sir Pent | 114013 | ||
My answer......................................... Hi dat, Thanks for giving an example of what you are talking about with versions disagreeing with each other. The passage that you talked about is a rather confusing one and has actually been talked about quite a bit on this forum in the past. I'll just give you one interpretation that is a commonly held belief amoung Christians. The versions that you mention are all correct. The word "Nephilim" is simply a title for these particular people talked about in this chapter. "Sons of God" is another name for them, and "giants" is simply a description of them. It is similar to if I said, "The Bronx Bombers played a game yesturday" or "The Yankees played a game yesturday" or "The guys in pinstripes played a game yesturday". All three sentances are true and don't contradict each other. Does that make sense. |
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192 | Why will no one answer my question? | Matt 5:19 | Sir Pent | 113995 | ||
My answer........................................ Hi Kalos, I haven't answered your question for two reasons. The first was that it was really long, and I saw the topic was about whether the Old Testament was still valid. I think that subject has been covered quite well on the forum in the past, and didn't need me adding anything to it. Therefore, I didn't actually read through your question. The second reason why I haven't disagreed with a specific point in your question is because once I took the time to read the whole thing, I agreed with them. I agree that the Old Testament is still valid. I thought you made good points :) |
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193 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113994 | ||
My clarification 2........................................ Hi EdB, Here you seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit comes differently in the New Testament becuase we are permanently holy now after Jesus sacrifice. Yet in the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit could only come on people temporarily because their holiness was temporary and always had to be renewed by animal sacrifices. I disagree. It seems that there are many places in the New Testament where it speaks of the need for even Christians to cleanse our hearts and confess our sins etc. This would indicate that although our cleansing comes repeatedly from the one sacrifice of Jesus instead of multiple sacrifice of animals, that we are not constantly holy, any more than they were in the Old Testament. Galations 4:1-10 seems to say that the difference between our relationship with God before and after Jesus is that we were servants and are now sons. So perhaps your answer of Jesus sacrifice is correct, but the affect of it is to make us sons, not to make us permanently holy. What do you think? |
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194 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113993 | ||
My clarification 1........................................ Hi EdB, I disagree that the words "in" and "filled" don't really mean "in" and "filled" in the Old Testament. I also don't see in any of the passages that I quoted (Gen 41:38, Num 27:18, Dan 4:8, 5:11-14, Ex 31:3, Ex 35:31) that the Holy Spirit left those people. It seems to me that the difference between the Holy Spirit in the Old and New Testaments is not whether He was "in" or "on", and not whether He was there "temporarily" or "permanently". Galations 4:4-6 seems to say that the difference is that in the New Testament, the Holy Spirit now comes "into our hearts". What do you think? |
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195 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113980 | ||
Problem number 2............................ Hi EdB, The second problem that I have with your answer is that you said the Holy Spirit could not come "in" people who were not holy, and therefore, salvation through Christ had to come before the Holy Spirit could come "in". Doesn't that imply that the Holy Spirit has no problem coming "on" someone who is not holy. And also aren't you implying that no one was holy before Christ's sacrifice? Yet we know that there were people who were holy before Christ's sacrifice (2 Kings 4:9, Mark 6:20). Another post in this thread referred to Gal 4:1-10, which uses the categories of "sons" versus "servants". Perhaps instead of "holy people" you mean that the Holy Spirit can only come on "sons". |
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196 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113979 | ||
Problem number 1............................ Hi EdB, Thanks for your response, but I have a couple problems with it. You seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament was "on" people but not "in" them. However, Makarios brought up several references where the Holy Spirit was "in" people of the Old Testament (Gen 41:38, Num 27:18, Dan 4:8, 5:11-14) Makarios also brought up references where the Holy Spirit even "filled" people in the Old Testament (Ex 31:3, Ex 35:31). Admitedly, these are a minority of references to the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament. Most of the time, He did come "on" people and not "in" them. However, it does show that this was not always the case. Another post in this thread referred to Gal 4:4-6, which refers to the Holy Spirit coming "into our hearts", which I don't think ever is mentioned in the Old Testament. Perhaps that is the true distinction that you are looking for. |
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197 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113976 | ||
I need clarification................................ Hi Casiv, Thanks for the scripture referrance. I looked at that passage, and I want to make sure that I understand what you wanted me to learn from it. This is what I assume the passage is saying. God sent the Holy Spirit "into our hearts" because we were sons (Gal 4:6). We were sons because we were redeemed and adopted (Gal 4:5). We were redeemed and adopted through God sending His Son Jesus (Gal 4:4). Is this interpretation along the lines of what you were thinking? |
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198 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 113974 | ||
I need clarification................................. Hi Rowdy, If I understand you correctly, you are saying that God had to wait to send Jesus to Earth until humanity "grew up". And by "growing up" you mean that humanity stopped focusing on the physical world and started focusing on the spiritual world. I assume that you are also saying that God had to wait to send the Holy Spirit unitl this "growing up" happened as well. Am I understanding you correctly? |
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199 | Strict Observance of Bible Versions? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Sir Pent | 113971 | ||
My answer............................................... Hi Dat, I once led a discussion on this forum about how much we could trust our current translations of the Bible. If you would like to read that discussion, type the number 15780 into the "Quick Search" box at the top right corner of the screen. The basic idea was that we agree with Rowdy that God has protected His Word, and that all of the major translations (NIV, NAS, KJV, etc.) can be trusted. I do not believe that there are any "MAJOR" changes as you said. Perhaps you could ask specifically about some of these changes that you have found, and we could discuss why they are there. |
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200 | StudyBibleForum or MyOpinionForum? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Sir Pent | 113882 | ||
My answer…………………………………………………. Hi Hank, It’s good to see you’re still around. You bring up a very good point in your question. I agree that all of the participants of the forum should try to stay biblically based in general. However, may I bring up a few examples of where this becomes difficult and perhaps unnecessary? Sometimes questions are asked which are not actually dealt with specifically in scripture. For instance, recently there was a question asked about what the “Beatitudes” were. First of all, the word “beatitudes” never appears at all in the Bible. I answered this question by referring to the dictionary. There are some questions that simply can’t be answered by scripture alone. Another recent example was when a prolific poster on this forum recently alluded to a forthcoming change in marital status. There were several responses of a purely personal nature that followed. I think that this is appropriate considering that this forum is not simply a sterile environment where computers spit out answers at people. Instead, it is a community, made up of real people who have real feelings, and sometimes want to share those with one another. Finally, there are some threads that seem to go on quoting scriptures endlessly. Often there are two persons or groups of persons who are on opposing sides of an issue. This recently happened with two forumites debating whether Christians should ever get tattoos. After this continued for a while, I made a post trying to encourage them that there was actually very little difference in their opinions, and that perhaps they should move on to other questions. This post seemed to help to resolve that entire thread although I did not quote any scripture at all. All three of these events have occurred in just the last month, and they are not isolated incidents. I think that they demonstrate that although we should generally stick with scripture, that there can be times when other types of posts are also appropriate and helpful. |
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