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1721 | How can Christ return be imminent? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14959 | ||
Rev.12:12 "For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time." This is his last fling. The second coming of Christ is not a verb but a noun, it is the Greek word, PAROUSIA. It is an event just like His first coming which took aprox. 33 years. His second parousia starts with the rapture of the church and last thru the final battle of Armageddon. The wrath of God by definition is against the wicked, when “The lord alone will be exalted” Isa.2:27 The wrath of Satan, Antichrist, “exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he take his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God” II Thess. 2:4 Scripture teaches that Antichrist persecution will be aginst the elect of God (Matt.24:21-22), against His saints (Rev. 13:7) against those “who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus”(Rev. 12:17)! Look at (Zeph. 1:17b-18) Believers will never be on the receiving end of God's wrath. CDBJ |
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1722 | How can Christ return be imminent? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14926 | ||
I don't see it that way. The wrath that is taking place during the lasts 42 months, is not from God but from the Wicked one. The affliction that those believers will go through is going to be dealt with along with the affliction of those in II Thess. 1:6-10 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. The only ones to escape, are the ones that are sealed in Rev.7:1-9 Just before the rapture. Did you notice the timing of the rapture in II Thess. 1;10 (WHEN) CDBJ |
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1723 | Prewrath position? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14921 | ||
This will be the end of what is called the times of the gentiles, when the rapture takes place. The period that Paul speaks of in Rom. 25:26-27 For I do not want you to be uninformed of this mystery so that you will not be wise in your own estimation that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, “The Deliverer will come out from Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.” “This is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.” The answer to your question is a definite YES! CDBJ |
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1724 | Prewrath position? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14871 | ||
Tim—I think we must have two prewrath concepts, or for that mater what constitutes God’s wrath and Satan’s wrath. I think that when antichrist establishes a covenant with Israel, that Daniel’s 70th week will start. The believers at that time will have 42 mo. to prepare for what is coming. At the mid point of the 70th week the antichrist will reveal who he really is and demand the worship of the World, i.e. the abomination of desolation. The Jew’s won’t worship antichrist and neither will the elect. This will start the great tribulation that is mentioned in Matt.24:21. The verse in Rev. 12:12, Shows it from the devil’s view point, and the short time, spoken of, is the last 3 1/2 years or 42 mo. The great tribulation and the time of Jacob’s trouble are running concurrent. The Lord will cut short the tribulation of the believers, with the rapture of his elect; this will happen some where in the last half of the 70th week. Daniel’s 70th week keeps going on though or it wouldn’t be a full 70 weeks. The verse in II Thess. 2:8 where the Lord will destroy the Wicked one with the brightness of His coming; the word for destroy, is KATARGEO, a better rendition would be to make useless, or of no effect: The reason being that the object of the Wicked one has just been removed, i.e. the rapture. CDBJ |
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1725 | Will it be our generation? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14834 | ||
I am sorry if that is how I seem to be coming across. I certainly don't want to be judge mental, I have enough problems with out being disciplined for that. There are so many believers that don't know what is going to happen in the future in regard to the last days. Peter talks about it in I Pet.1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: The message that is going out all over the World today is that the elect won't have to go through all of this, and it just isn't so. I have a very heavy burden for other believers to find the truth about the last days. It might not be for many years to come, I don't know, but the Lord has put the burden on my heart. I guess I kind of know how Jeremiah must have felt for the Jews of his day. The warnings are many, but people just don't want to hear about it. It will be so bad, that believers will think that they missed the rapture and they will be turning to false Christ. After all they will say we are not suppose to be going through all of this, maybe our belief about Christ was wrong! There doesn't seem to be many like Paul found in Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Oh well, CDBJ |
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1726 | Will it be our generation? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14801 | ||
Well you got me there, seeing as Christ is The Word. Charis--Try www.signministries.org or email them at info@signministries.org They will send you a copy of the book for free if you are in the ministry; It is over 500 pages thick. I have always had questions that didn't fit right untill I read this book, it ties all the scripture together. CDBJ | ||||||
1727 | Will it be our generation? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14800 | ||
Debbie you right when you say no one can give a date, because it is not known exactly when Christ will return. But there are signs to distingush certain things that have to happen before He can return, thus eliminating a term that is called imminency. I haven't talked to a handfull of Christians that know, that on the very day that Christ rescues the believers from the earth, that God will begin to pour out His wrath on those that are left behind. There is even a book out that goes by that title, so that unbelievers if they read it, might think they have a second chance when all the believers seem to vanish away. They will have as much chance as those that were left after the ark was shut. God's wrath came that very same day in the form of rain. God's wrath came the very day that Lot left Sodom. He almost got his shirt tail burnt on the way out, but God delivered him just before the fire came down. These will be tempting times that will try the faith of many believers. Look at what II Pet.2:9 has to say. Then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgement, There are many who think that the rapture will be a secret thing. The most glorius event in history will be taking place that shows the World who Christ is, and they say it will be a secret event, I don't think so!! Rev.1:7 every eye will see Him. (Study study study) CDBJ | ||||||
1728 | Will it be our generation? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14780 | ||
Well it seems that the Lord has a different idea, that's why there is more on the end time events in the Bible then any other doctrin. Every thing you mentioned is very commendable but the subject wasn't on Christian service. Keep up the good work it sounds like a motivation of love. I read the FOXE'S BOOK OF MARTYRS about 30 years ago that edition was enough for me. Have you ever read a book called, THE SIGN by Robert VanKampen, it is a real eye opener? CDBJ | ||||||
1729 | Will believers see great tribulation? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14771 | ||
Steve--I like your pat answer, that you want to be ready. Do you honestly know any true believers who don't want to be? I was looking for an answer from someone who is interested and knowledgeable about eschatology. As for Rev. 22:20, the word you call soon, is the Greek word (tachu), and is better translated quickley. Meaning when it all starts, it will be over very fast. This verb is discriptive of (how) not (when). Say like in, "the twinkling of an eye". God says it will happen, and as a result, I know for a fact it will happen. I don't want to be ready, that's future, I am ready. Since you mention Matt. 24:31, it is evident that you think He is comming to take us home after the tribulation, or didn't you read Matt.24:29,30? Keep studying! CDBJ | ||||||
1730 | Will believers see great tribulation? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14759 | ||
I believe the Bible to mean what it says in it's most normal, natural, customary sense, taking into account that there are figures of speech. That in order to find the truth of doctrin, all scripture pertaining to a particular doctrin must be used, and there are no contradiction found in truth. I believe God's Word is infallible and that is why I ask in the first place, where do people find the imminency of the rapture in Scripture? I realize the word isn't in the Bible, but I find so much in opposition to it, that the consept it's even there, with all thing considered. You can't make up a doctrin from what it doesn't say. As you said, there are pretrib.,midtrib., and posttrib., they can't all be right. Yet all use the Bible to back up there position. There must be a common denominator that all the verses fit. We are a forum, lets find it! I don't want to be argumentative; I want the truth to prevail. We have more helps at our disposal then any other time in history. Who knows the truth of the timing of Christ return? CDBJ | ||||||
1731 | Like a thief to who? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14645 | ||
To Bannal--How do you deal with what Paul wrote in I Thessalonians 5:1-4 Where there are two groups of people mentioned, They and Ye; the unbelievers being they, and the believers being the ye. Paul say that belivers are not in darkness that the day of the Lord will overtake them like a thief. The reason being that there are signs that have been given to belivers to look for just before the Lord returns. Paul had drummed it into there heads so much that he says in 5:1 that you have no need that I write you. Maybe there is something in the doctrin of the Lord's return that you are not clear on? Unbelievers don't know enough to see or look for the signs, that's why Christ will come as a thief to them. The Disciples ask the question in Matt. 24:3 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and the end of the world (age)? The very next verse is a warning from Christ not to let any man deceive you. The whole chapt. of Matt.24: has a comparative account in The Revelation of Christ. Look these up. (Matt.24:4 cf. Rev. 22:19 warning) (Matt.24:5 cf. Rev.6:1-2 false Christ) (Matt.24:6 cf. Rev.6:3-4 wars) (Matt.24:9,21 cf. Rev.6:7,8 The Great Trib.) (Matt.24:9,22 cf. Rev.6:9 death) (Matt.24:10,24 cf. Rev. Apostasy) (Matt.24:29 cf. Rev. 6:12-17 Sun moon and stars) (Matt.24:13,31 Cf. Rev.7:9-14 The rapture) (Matt.24:14,37-39 cf. Rev.8:1-7 The wrath of God) I hope this helps! CDBJ | ||||||
1732 | How can Christ return be imminent? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14627 | ||
To Tim--There are supposedly three groups that all believers fall into, Pretribulationist, Posttribulationist, and Prewrath. The only one that I have seen that doesn't have contradiction with Scripture is the prewrath position. When it come to a discrepancy in the timing of Christ return. All scripture on a particular subject have to be in line with each other for the result to be truth. Psalm 119:160 The sum of Your word is truth, (New American Standard) CDBJ | ||||||
1733 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 14621 | ||
To Tim Moran--Good point, I should have been looking at more then the KJV. to quote a verse. The if clause isn't in Heb. 6:6 in the Greek, good call. It's a good thing we have Heb.6:9-12 the former category will probably fall into what Jesus called the tares, in the "wheat and the tares " parable. CDBJ | ||||||
1734 | How can Christ return be imminent? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14619 | ||
I agree in part, but it only says "DAY and HOUR", or are you reading more into it then that? It seem to me that there was mention of a season some place, and that we would know when certain things start to happen, only then will the time be near. One sign being that the Jews would be back in there land occupying the Holy city. Now if that is the case, that means that Christ couldn't have returned untill after 1967. I.E. So much for imminency! |
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1735 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 14600 | ||
One needs to under the construction in the Greek language that the New Testament was written in, when the word (if) is used. There are four classes, and the word if can mean the following. 1st class, if and it's true. 2nd. class, if and it's not true. 3rd. class maybe it's true and maybe it's not. 4th. class I wish it where true but it's not. The class condition that is found in Heb.6:6 is a 2nd class condition. I.E. It's not true. They are secure in Christ and nothing can change that position. Some use Heb.6:4-6 to say that, "see people can loose their salvation!" Well if that is the situation, they can't get it bak again because of v.6 and so much for I Jn.1:9 There is NO sin that Jesus didn't pay the price for, except the one of rejecting Him as there Savior. Now that doesn't mean that we are free to sin all we want, but that we are now free to serve. We will still sin because we are still locked in these bodys, but we are not to practice sin as we did before we were saved. Paul had this same problem, read Rom. 7 Now go back and read what it said in Heb.6:4 (IT"S IMPOSSIBLE)--I hope this helps! CDBJ | ||||||
1736 | Question still not answered | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14593 | ||
According to Scripture, Matt. 24:15 is the beginning of the great tribulation for believers in the World. This time will be cut short by the rapture. | ||||||
1737 | salvation/baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14368 | ||
Yes, baptism is required, but it is not what you think. All believers have received the bapt. of the Spirit and that is the one that counts. There are wet baptisms and dry ones, The wet ones are only ritual, the dry ones are real. Christ will baptize every one in a point of time. This will be with the Holy Spirit, when a person puts there faith in Jesus as there Savior or the other option: That is if a person rejects the work of Jesus an dies, he will receive the baptism of fire; Take your pick, (smoking or non smoking) Look at Matt.3:11,12 where John was speaking to the general public. Look at Eph.4:3-6 This speaks of unity and mentions "one" baptism. It is unity because it is done for us by Christ. Water baptism has caused division not unity. Don't worry about the bapt. of the Spirit, God handles that for us. That's one more thing that calls for trust in Him. Water bapt. is an outward expression on our part that we have believed in the finish work of Christ. The order is, believe and be baptized, as a witness to the World of your position in Christ. I hope this helps, CDBJ | ||||||
1738 | WHEN DID GOD CHANGE LIFESPAN OF MAN? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 14359 | ||
The verse in Gen.6:3 isn't how long man will live, but a warninig that man only had 120 years left before God would destroy man and the Earth. Don't take text out of contex! Read the rest of the chapter. CDBJ | ||||||
1739 | God does not pour out veng. on His own! | Luke 21:22 | CDBJ | 14340 | ||
The Bible doesn't say that Jeusalem is the object.It is the answer to a question found in V.:7 What will be the sign. The same Question was recorder in Matt. 24:3 That tells us when Christ will return and the end of the age and the signs that will perceed His return. Later on in Luke 21:35 Christ says that the problem will be on the whole Earth. Matt. 24:21 Say that at that time it will the worst tribulation since the beginning of the World. This tribulstion mentioned therefore must be from Satan, because the flood, which was from God, was much worse. Thanks for the come back Nicodemus. CDBJ | ||||||
1740 | God does not pour out veng. on His own! | Luke 21:22 | CDBJ | 14093 | ||
Most take this to be God's wrath, I see it better as stated in Rev. 12:10,11,12 | ||||||
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