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161 | Mistaken View Or False Doctrine? | Eph 1:13 | Tamara Brewington | 205281 | ||
Dear Forum Members, I have been pondering something lately, please forgive me if I seem to be bringing up something old and please bear with me. I myself have posted several things about false doctrine in here, perhaps even about one or more of these beliefs below, but the good testimonies of some people are leaving me in doubt as to whether they are just mistaken about the process. Do you think that these constitue false doctrine and what scriptures would you give to support that? I know of a few things to support what I believe already, but I am thinking about those scriptures which might shed some light on what the apostles considered to be false doctrine? I have been pondering whether or not certain teachings about Jesus plus within the process of salvation are merely mistaken views about the process or whether they are to be considered false doctrines. I have friends and family members who believe in these Jesus plus concepts about the process of salvation and some of them have been Christians for a very long time and seem to be bearing good fruit. Here are some of the views, I am leaving out the other major 4 Jesus plus beliefs because there is so much about them that is obvious false doctrine that there is no doubt in my mind; Salvation comes by repenting of sins and believing in Jesus, plus it is not completed until baptism, living a sinless life until death and staying in scripture study to keep the Holy Spirit working inside. Salvation comes by repenting of sins and believing in Jesus, plus it is not completed until baptism. Salvation comes by repenting of sins and believing in Jesus, plus tarrying at the altar to get tongues as evidence of having received the Holy Spirit as the sign of salvation. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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162 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205279 | ||
Dear Forum members, First referrnce to go with the question; I Corinthians 6:9,10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor theives, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Second referrence for the question; Mathew 19:8 Because of the hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. Mark 10:11,12 And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery. Third referrence for the question; Hebrews 6:4-6 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then ahve fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. Fourth referrence for the question; Mathe 7:21 Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord', will enter the kindom of heaven, but he who does the will of the Father who is in heaven will enter. Here is the situation, I have had the pleasure to know a number of wonderfull Christian couples who were previously divorced and then got remarried. Here are variations on this subject that will drive my question; 1)One member of the present marriage was divorced while an unbeliever due to both unbelieving parties committing adultery getting divorced, but repented of committing adultery and getting a divorce and after becoming a Christian got married to a Christians widow. 2)One member of the present marriage got a divorce due to their unbelieving spouse committing adultery and leaving, and then met a wonderful Christian and got married. 3)Both members of the present marriage had previous spouses who committed adultery on them and got divorced and all parties involved were Christians, then they met and got married. All of these marriages are wonderful marriages and these Christians appear to be bearing good fruit and have been married a very long time. Question; does not the Bible teach that when we sin, we have an advocate, but that we have to repent of our sin and walk away from remaining in sin in order for God to truly have grounds for forgiving us? Next question; why do some Christians feel as if once you are divorced you can be in a new marriage because there is nothing you can do about the mess up of the old one, so now it is ok to marry someone else? Jesus said two things up there about divorce; who ever marries a divorced person (without qualifying it) commits adultery, and who ever divorces someone except for immorality and marries another commits adultery. Next question; how then is there any grounds to get remarried at all just because someone committed adultery? By His Grace, Tamara |
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163 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205274 | ||
Dear Lookin, I am blushing my dear... Tamara |
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164 | what approach did paul take | Bible general Archive 4 | Tamara Brewington | 205272 | ||
Dear Beanna, Welcome to the forum! Paul started out by reasoning with the all the Athenians and the strangers gathered at the Aeropagus where all would gather to talk about things new. He speaks of having observed that the men of Athens are very religious people in all respects. Then he begins to reason with them about the Unknown God and how they were worshipping this god in ignorance. He goes on to describe the qualities of this Unkown God for many verse. One could even say Paul used wisdom in the way in which he choose to reveal who the Unkown God is. However, a switch in mode occurs in verse 31 as Paul stops reasoning and begins to give a very short straight forward declaration of a man who has been appointed a judge of the world by the Unkown God and prooved to be so by being raised from the dead. This is about the shortest testament of the death and resurrection of Jesus that can be found in the whole NT, but it is a declaration of His death and resurrection and the judging of men through Jesus. What Paul does not use the other elements that he and Peter usually employed; the proof that Jesus rules eternally on the throne of David and that David does not and is dead, the crucifixion story, the OT prohecies come true in the life, ministry, and person of Jesus. But he does say Christ died and was raised from the dead, however short, he does give the central message of the gospel, in one very short sentence. He began with reasoning and wisdom, but ended up in a declarative sentence containing the essence of the gospel message of salvation. You will find other instances in Acts where it is said of Peter, of Paul and of Steven that wisdom or reasoning was used to approach the unblievers. What you will find is that except in instances where they are presenting a defense to prosecution, examination by kings and rulers, and while presenting an accusation to those who are about to stone the speaker to death, the central message of the death, or crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus is presented as what consist of the message preached, whatever the means of delivery may be. God's day to you, Tamara |
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165 | The subtlety of false teaching | Titus 3:10 | Tamara Brewington | 205240 | ||
Dear humbledbyhisgrace, I heartily agree, but there is a real threat to those who need to come to faith out of overt ant-Biblical and ant-God teachings and get saved. That there is a greater danger to the church from subtle teachings that pulls away from faith than from overt teachings is true too. There is a lot of that going around and always has been. Glad you posted this, God's day to you, Tamara |
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166 | names and events | Bible general Archive 4 | Tamara Brewington | 205239 | ||
Dear ardmore, You received very good advice, I would add that the more times you read the passage, or the whole Bible, the better you will remember it. I would also add that if you start doing word studies with a concordance of names and events in the OT you will find that you start to remember them becuase you have studied them in depth. You could start by looking up the word Elisha in the concordance for instance and go to each place where his name appears and start reading before and after where his name appears. That will reteach you what his life was all about and familiarize you with the passage, the events, the other people and so on. Then in about two weeks go back and do the same word study over again, I guaruntee you will find out something new each time about the events, the people and so on. Here is another technique to try, stop highlighting your Bible for a while if you have been. Go looking up an event like Nehemia eating grass like an ox in the concordance firs, then the Bible. Trace what happened before and after for a few pages, then go look up another king who rebelled against God and another, until you have looked up 5 of them. Don't mark your Bible when you do this, try to commit the chapter numbers to memory, and close the Bible. Open the Bible back up and go find everything again without using the concordance at all to find anything, when you get stuck use the concordance one king at a time. Go do the same exact study the next day and the next, by the end of the week you will know by heart where these 5 rebellious kings are to be found without any trouble at all. I have done this with both the NT and the OT, for people, for events, for topics for everything it works... I have never marked my Bibles in 13 years of studying because I demand of myself that I will now where everything is one day, I practice and practice until I know where things are to be found. Bible study is not a piece of cake, it is hard work. Here is for you; II Timothy 2:15... God's day to you, Tamara |
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167 | If a person hurts you and ask forgivenes | Bible general Archive 4 | Tamara Brewington | 205237 | ||
Dear Katielee, Mathew 18:21,22 Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven." Forgiveness is a requirement of being a Christian, if Jesus tells us to love both our neighbors and our enemies then we are to forgive both. Being a doormat for punishment and abuse that is not for the sake of preaching and teaching of the gospel is not required of Christians. Luke 17:3 "Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he returns to you seven times a day, and returns to you seven times, saying, 'I repent,' forgive him." There is another thing to think about, forgive them if they repent and ask for forgiveness. A non Christian or a non repentant Christian you may want to forgive just so you don't walk around angry and continuall hurt all the time and to make sure you are in the right with God. But according to this verse, if they don't repent, you are not required to forgive them. I had a lot of trouble (this is not a comment of frustration to forum members or snide remark about messages I may have recieved as a result) when I first came in here because I kept on including my personal circumstances with my questions. I had to learn to refrain a bit and rephrase my questions around the issue without going much into the situation the question came out of. I noticed that no one said anything like what was said to you regarding a man asking what to do about a situation with his mother in law, very very interesting, nothing got said to him, everyone just pitched in to help, and the thread went on and on for a while. Sometimes folks react to you differently after hearing personal things, be carefull what you say in here, you don't want what you reveal to color people's impression of you and your questions. Keep asking questons, God Bless, Tamara |
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168 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205236 | ||
My apologies Brad I sent you a message meant for chessshores by accident, please forvgive me. Tamara |
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169 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205235 | ||
Dear chessshores, This is another Word of Faith teaching that has absolutely no basis in scripture at all. Joyce Meyers and Benny Hinn and other Word of Faith teachers like T.D. Jakes and Paula White use this phrase all the time, but you won't be able to find it in the scripture because it is not there. This is another example of the Word of Faith teachers and preachers taking scripture and twisting it to mean what they say it means taking it out of context away from the author's original intent. Here is an example of how Joyce Meyers and Paula White, for example twist the scriptures to say what they want them to say. They start out with one verse and then misapply it to a next verse making a connection that does not exist. Here is an example; Ephesians 2:12,13 remember that your were at that time separate from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. This is the first thing they try to establish; that we were once strangers to the covenants of promise, but now by the blood of Jesus we have access to the covenants. This is where they start off, with the truth, but then they veer off from where they start and take another scripture that is about covenantal promises made to specific situations and specific groups of people and mis-apply them for today by reinterpreting them to fit their twisted theology. Here is what I mean; Numbers 25:12 Therefore say, 'Behold, I give My covenant of peace; and it shall be for him and his descendants after him a covenant of a perpetual priesthood, because he was jealous for his God and made atonement for the sons of Israel.' The second thing these Word of Faith preachers try to establish is that once a person has been granted access to the covenants of promise that they can access all of the OT convenants. covenants that are not about the covenant of Abraham about faith, but all the other covenants given to Moses, to Noah and the smaller covenants given to individuals, as the covenants given to Israel and persons in Israel. This is a specific covenant promised to a specific person, Phinehas the son of Eleazar, made by God, and it does not apply to all peoples at all times that they shall receive this specfic peace offered to one priest who made atonement for the sins of Israel. more to come, Tamara |
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170 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205234 | ||
continuation, Tamara After they establish that belivers by the blood have access to all covenants from the OT they seek to establish that all believers because they are priests can have the promise granted to Phinehas. I Peter 2:5 You also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. While it is true that we are all priests in the priesthood of Christ, and while it is true that we have access to the covenantal promises of faith, and while it is true that believers are granted peace between themselves and God, these Word of Faith preachers take it all a step beyond this. They tie in having access to the convenant of faith by the blood, being in the priesthood and being granted peace between us and God with the concept that believers are to take the covenant granted to Phinehas and speak it out loud in order to release the power of God to speak peace to your ruined health, ruined life, ruined ministry, ruined finances telling you that God will speak peace to your situation if you speak out loud the promises of God and allow God to move on your behalf. The covenant of peace between God and Phinehas was specifically about the other covenant of a perpetual priesthood granted to Phinehas and his descendants and was not about a ruined life, or a ruined health, or ruined finances, or a ruined ministry, it was about God granting peace instead of desctruction and about granting one man and his family a perpetual priesthood and does not apply to other situations or people at all. It is true that God can and will fix ruined things, but not by appropriating the covenant of peace and a priesthood granted only to Phineahas... The next things these Word of Faith preachers say after finishing their excited and flambouyant presentation of this wild illustration is, "God opens doors that no man can close, by His Holy will and sovereign power, He will release the convenants and promises of God into your life by the power of the blood of Jesus Christ by the level of your faith!" This twisting scriptures to fit their twisted theology that your lips as a priest will open up and appropriate any old promise or covenant of God and that by the power of your faith God will act on your behalf and fix any old thing because you are under the blood and God loves His children and has given them many many promises and covenants that apply to them and belong to God. Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, Paula White, Joyce Meyers, Peter Popoff, and on and on they are all getting rich and powerfull because people love to hear false teaching that tells them how to get things and fix things and how to have a better life with much less suffering. And it is all false doctrine every bit of it, from the fake healings to the healings by the power of the devil, to the healing oil of the devil, to the green prayer clothes of the evil one, to the fake manna to heal you by the power of the devil, the fake no evil oil, the instantaneous dental work by the power of the devil, the prophecies by the power of Satan about peoples personal doctor's name and diagnoses of illnes without prior knowledge, it is all the work of the devil - here is why, they are doing all these so called Charismatic gifts while preaching a myriad of false doctrines to support what they are doing, and if they are preaching false doctrine and then performing many miracles that are real, then their power is from the devil himself, by their fruits you shall know them, but first check the doctrine, if it is false then so are the miracles a product, although they may be real of the devil and not God. I want you to really start listening to what they are preaching, all these people that you so admire in minstry and start to ask questions in here about what you are hearing and seeing and start getting some real sound doctrine so you can see what is the truth. You are being deceived my dear and it shows, I say this in love for the sake of your soul to pull you back from the brink of spiritual destruction. Learn the truth and keep it. Test every word you hear against the Bible, if you can't find it, I bet you are a fine Bible student, it probably is not there at all, but is a false teaching. God's day to you, Tamara |
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171 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205233 | ||
Dear chessshores, This is another Word of Faith teaching that has absolutely no basis in scripture at all. Joyce Meyers and Benny Hinn and other Word of Faith teachers like T.D. Jakes and Paula White use this phrase all the time, but you won't be able to find it in the scripture because it is not there. This is another example of the Word of Faith teachers and preachers taking scripture and twisting it to mean what they say it means taking it out of context away from the author's original intent. Here is an example of how Joyce Meyers and Paula White, for example twist the scriptures to say what they want them to say. They start out with one verse and then misapply it to a next verse making a connection that does not exist. Here is an example; Ephesians 2:12,13 remember that your were at that time separate from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. This is the first thing they try to establish; that we were once strangers to the covenants of promise, but now by the blood of Jesus we have access to the covenants. This is where they start off, with the truth, but then they veer off from where they start and take another scripture that is about covenantal promises made to specific situations and specific groups of people and mis-apply them for today by reinterpreting them to fit their twisted theology. Here is what I mean; Numbers 25:12 Therefore say, 'Behold, I give My covenant of peace; and it shall be for him and his descendants after him a covenant of a perpetual priesthood, because he was jealous for his God and made atonement for the sons of Israel.' The second thing these Word of Faith preachers try to establish is that once a person has been granted access to the covenants of promise that they can access all of the OT convenants. covenants that are not about the covenant of Abraham about faith, but all the other covenants given to Moses, to Noah and the smaller covenants given to individuals, as the covenants given to Israel and persons in Israel. This is a specific covenant promised to a specific person, Phinehas the son of Eleazar, made by God, and it does not apply to all peoples at all times that they shall receive this specfic peace offered to one priest who made atonement for the sins of Israel. more to come, Tamara |
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172 | what kind of Bible reading qualifies? | Proverbs | Tamara Brewington | 205232 | ||
Dear chessshores, I respect that you are from another culture, so are others here, we are all from slightly different cultures even those of us from the USA in here are not all from the same exact culture or church denominations. I think you are doing just fine my dear in following the guide lines. You are including scripture, you are either posting a note to something that interested you, or you are asking a question as best you can in language that is not your first language, and you think from a different point of view coming from a different culture and heritage. I have had friends from many different cultures and from different countries and understand that it can be difficult to understand what people see things like who are different than I am. I myself am of mixed heritage, culture and background and my family is slightly mixed up. I love knowing people who are different than I am, its a big big world, and a big big body of Christ. I have Pentacostal friends, which you would not have guessed from my posts back to you, I have a Catholic friend from childhood, which you would not have guessed from my posts, and I have unbelievers for friends that you would not have guessed from my posts to you. I had the priveledge of teaching jewelers from Japan, South America, and a deaf person how to make jewelry without any of us speaking the same language. We resorted to a kind of made up sign language for one year and tried to understand one another to do things together on the job. At the end of one year, with the exception of the deaf man, they all were able to speak a form of English enough to communicate differently. I think, folks from different religious cultures have something higher in common by which they can communicate, the Bible, and this can cross cultures and backgrounds and heritages, and bring us together as one. I think that according to the type of questions you will ask and the texts from the Bible you will pick folks in here will slowly get to know you. And if you remain open to correction sometimes and being taught something scripturaly sound by those who have been around in the Lord for a while in here, you might really grow in your walk with Christ. The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge is not a Bible I am familiar with, I will have to get familiar with it. From the sounds of it, it encouraged you a great deal. I would like to know, how that Bible works. Is it that this Bible has verses in the referrence column that refer back to the orginal verses? Or is it that this Bible has verses right alongside the text in the margins? Or is it that this Bible has verses right in the text after the original verse, another verse from another part of the Bible following the original? James 4:3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures. This is not about negligence, or sloppiness, or deliberat cheating. It is about verses 1 and 2 which say that people are quarreling and having conflicts with one another and that this is the source of their lustful desires for things causing wrong conduct. This is about the lust for things that one does not have that are causing one to commit murder to get something and to be envious of others and fight with them to get things and that one does not get things because one has not asked the with the right motive asking the right way to God. Verse 3 goes on in the same theme that because one has the wrong motive one does not receive because the motive is to spend the answer to the prayer on selfish pleasures. As you can see that is not negligence, or sloppiness, or deliberate cheatting, it is about selfishness, asking for things for the wrong reasons, harming others in order to get things, and is about doing things the wrong way being a source of the mind and actions of the flesh which wage war against the spirit. Keep asking questions my dear. By His Grace, Tamara |
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173 | what is a sheep in john 10:1-16 | John 10:1 | Tamara Brewington | 205229 | ||
Dear Carrina, Welcome to the forum! Jesus was calling believers in Jesus sheep dear heart... The verses you are asking about are all about Jesus being the only way into belief in God in verse 1. And the warning is about a thief and robber who is seeking to steal the believers from God. Verse 2 is about Jesus being able to enter by the will of God to where the believers are and being their leader. Verse 3 is about God who is the door keeper opening the way for Jesus to come and call the believers each by name and lead them out of sin. Verse 4 is about Jesus showing the way out from sin and going ahead of the sheep in order to lead them to God. Verse 5 is about that those who believe not being able to follow a stranger to God because they will not recgonize his voice. Verse 6 is about Jesus talking in parables because the Pharisees who had rejected Jesus would be unable to understand what He said and be saved. Verse 7 is about Jesus saying He is the way to God for those who would believe. Verse 8 is about the ones who came before Jesus came to steal the believers, but the believers did not listen to them. Verse 9 is about Jesus being the only way to God and if any believe in Him they will be saved. Verse 10 is about the thief of the believer coming to kill and destroy the believer, and Jesus coming to give eternal life. Verse 11 is about Jesus being the good leader and dying for His followers. Verse 12 is about those who are leading believers for money not being the owner of the believers who sees Satan coming and leaves the believers and runs and then Satan steals the believers and scatters them away from Jesus. Verse 13 is about the one who was in it for the money running away because he never cared about the believers. Verse 14 is about Jesus being the good leader and that He knows His believers and His believers know Him. Verse 15 is about that just as God knows Jesus and Jesus knows God, Jesus dies for the believers. Verse 16 is about Jesus having other believers besides the Jews and that He must bring them to God as well as the Jews, and they will listen to Jesus and become one body of believers with one leader. Hope this helps, keep asking questions, God Bless, Tamara |
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174 | Jesus symbolism in parable, how else | Proverbs | Tamara Brewington | 205217 | ||
Dear chessshores, See verse 11 where it makes clear why Jesus was saying the whole thing in the first place? Jesus was talking about the whole matter of being good stewardsof money in order to make far more important ont about being entrusted as good stewards of the true righes... The riches that you are to accumulate as part of your reward in heaven, as Jesus says elsewhere, store up for yourselves treasure in heaven. You have to get the context of these passages about money correct in the parables to understand why Jesus was saying what he was saying in the first place. God's day to you, Tamara |
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175 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205213 | ||
Dear Jim, Please see my reply to Pastor Moran. God Bless you, Tam |
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176 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205212 | ||
Dear Jeff, Please see my reply to Pastor Moran. God Bless you, Tam |
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177 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205210 | ||
Dear Val, Please see my answer to Pastor Moran. God Bless you, Tam |
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178 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205209 | ||
continuation, Tamara There are, however, some minor copyist errors in the biblical manuscripts - two examples will suffice: Second Chronicles 22:2 says Ahaziah was forty-two, yet 2 Kings asserts that Ahaziah was twenty-two. He could not have been forty-two (a copyist error), or he would have been older than his father (see NIV and NKJV). Also 2 Chronicles 9:25 affirms that Solomon had four thousand horse stalls, but 1 Kings 4:26 says there were forty thousand horse stalls, which would have been far more than needed for the twelve thousand horsemen he had (see NIV and NKJV). It is important to note of these copyist errors that: 1)No original manuscript has ever been found with an error in it. 2)Errors are relatively rare in their copies. 3)In most cases we know which wording is wrong from the context or parallel passages. 4)In no case does an error effect any doctrine of scipture. 5)Errors vouch for the accuracy of the copying process, since the scribes who copied them knew there were errors in the manuscripts were duty-bound to copy what the text before them said. 6)Errors don't effect the central message of the Bible. Quote, Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 494, par.2); SOME IMPORTANT DEFINITIONS The terms inspiration, infallibility, and inerrancy are all related. Inspired means, "breathed out by God", "what comes from God Himself" (see 2 Tim. 3:16-17). Infallibility means, "what has divine authority", "what cannot be broken" (John 10:34-35). Inerrancy means, "what is without error," "wholly true". What is inspired is infallible, since inspired means to be breathed out by God, and what is God-breathed cannot be in error. Likewise, what is infallible, since it has divine authority, must also be inerrant - a divinely authoritative error is a condtradiction in terms. However, not everything inerrant is divinely authoritative. A phone book could be without error, but it would not thereby have divine authority. Hence,inerrancy is implied in a proper understanding of infallibility, but infallibility does not follow from inerrancy. Quote, Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg.507, par.3,4; THE OBJECTION THAT INERRANCY IS CONTRARY TO FACT Finally, some insist that the doctrine of inerrancy is contrary to fact - that there are demonstrable errors in the Bible. This view, however, makes errors of its own. The fact is that no one has ever demonstrated that there is an error in the original text of the Bible; rather, those who allge errors in the Bible have been found in error. Here is a list of the errors of those who claimn to find errors in the Bible (Geisler and HOwe, WCA, chapter 1). Quote, Systematice Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg.511, par.1; Mistake 15: Forgetting That Only the Original Text, Not Every Copy of Scripture, Is Without Error When critics do come upon a genuined error in a biblical manuscript copy, they make another mistake - they assume it was in the original inspired text of Scripture. They forget that God uttered only the original text of Scripture, not the imperfect copies. Inspiration does not guarantee that every copy of the original is without error, and therefore, we are to expect minor errors will be found in manuscript copies. When we run into a so-called "error" in the Bible, we must assume one of two things: either the manuscript was not copied correctly, or we have not understood it rightly. What we may not assume is that God made an error in inspiring the original text. Several things should be observed about these copyist errors. First, they are errors in copies, not the originals. No one has ever found an oringal manuscript with an error in it. Second, they are minor errors (often in names or numbers) that do not affect the doctrine of the Christian faith. Third, these copyist errors are relatively few in number. Fourth, usually by the context, or by another Scripture, we know which one is in error. In conclusion I never purported that the text were in contradiction to one another, but that there was an apparent and obvious discrepancy as to a difinitve time frame of an event as being recorded differenty from one author to another, which it undeniably was, as being the same in substance while having a discrepancy in time frame. We see according to the quotes I included that it is quite possible for there to be real copyist errors while maintaining without a shadow of a doubt that the Bible is the infallible, inspired, inerrant word of God. By His Grace, Tamara |
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179 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205207 | ||
Dear Tim, I did not say contradictory, as in 'Not A', 'Not B', here is what I said in light of the fact that Mark and Luke differed as to whether the spices were prepared before the Sabbath day, or on the Sabbath, which was the original question, and which is not a contradiction, but is a discrepancy a true undenialable discrepancy that cannot as a detail about the act occuring on two different days be reconciled, but can in substance be reconciled; The accounts cannot be reconciled in their particulars but can in their substance and that is how you reconcile an account like this one. The Bible is indeed the innerrant word of God and contains some discrepancies at points, but not at any major points and not doctrinally ever. Quote; Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 252, par. 2 - AVOIDING TWO EXTREMES Two extremes are to be avoided when describing the Bible: Either denying of diminishing its devine characteristics while affirming its human traits, or else affirming its divine properties while denying or diminishiing its human elements. Most liberals do the former (see DeWof, CTLP, 58-66) and many fundamentalists fall into the latter (Rice, OGBBB, 265-285-87). These two errors are the bibliological equivalents of arianism and docetism, respectively (see F.L. Cross, ODCC, 87, 413). Quote Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 257, par. 3-5); THE BIBLE IS WITHOUT ERROR There is one human characteristic of the Bible does not have: errors. Although a more extended discussion of the innerrancy of the Bible is found later (see chapter 27), the basic outline of its errorlessness will be stated here. The Original Text Is Without Error The logic of inerrancy is straight forward: 1)God cannot err. 2)The Bible is God's Word. 3)Therefore, the Bible cannot err. Since Scriptures are breathed out by God (2 Tim. 3:16-170, and since God cannot breathe out falsehood, if follows that the Bible cannot contain any falsehood. The Copies Are Not Without Error Christians only claim that God breathed out everythign in the original text, not everything in the copies. Divine inspiration and innerrancy, therefore, applies to the original text, not to every detail of every copy. The copies are without error only insofar as they are copied correctly, and they were copied with great care and a very high degree of accruracy. Christians believe that God in His providence preserved the copies from all substatial error; in fact, the degree of accuracy is greater than that of Quote, Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 258, par. 3-4); any other book from the ancient world, exceeding 99 percent (see Geisler and Nix, GIB, chapter 22). The reasons for this amazing accuracy are: (1) we have many more manuscripts of the Bible than any other books form the ancient world, (2) the manuscripts date more closely to the originals, and (3) they were copied accurately. more to come, Tamara |
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180 | you didnt see the harmony of the Whole | OT general | Tamara Brewington | 205197 | ||
Dear chessshores, Because not until now did you explain the harmony of the whole as you were seeing it, thank you for clarigying what you were seeing. After looking at what you had to say, I see what you were getting at in the first place and happend to agree with you. Try this, when replying to someone, chose note instead of question, then the person you are replying to will receive the email, I found your reply by looking in unaswered quesitons. Tamara |
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