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141 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205362 | ||
Dear Jeff, No my dear not on a crusade here at all, myabe I should just stop answering everyone who decides to post me with what I really am considering about the texts in mind here... No slight to anyone intended. If I have offended you let me know please... My aim is ever to divide the passages, not to point fingers at people, that is not what we are here for. If the grammar, or historical evidence does not support one's interpretation, why is addressing the grammar and history seen as pointing fingers? I am not here for that. Where in the text in I Cor. 7 does it say you are anything more than unbound, as in divorced? Where does it say you are free to remarry? Show me please, how the grammar allows for "when we take this in context"... Please show me how I have taken the group of verses that speak about being divorced, and about being unbound, and about Jesus speaking of God's original intention that the two are one flesh, and about God hating divorce, and about they are married until one of them is dead - and then show me how the counsel of scripture is saying on the whole that one is free to remarry? I agree with that folks who came to the Lord having gotten into an adulteress situation and how we can't expect them to separate... Now that there saved they are forgiven and should not be expected to separate. My questions were all centered around those that have been saved and then choose to remarry, entering into adultery because they feel that since somone wronged them they can move on, stay in the new relationship, ask for forgiveness about it and expect to find themselves in heaven. I can see we do not agree about this part of the issue, would you like me to stop? I will... Or would you like to examine the scriptures some more? Which is all I have been doing about this issue since answering posts, not disagreeing with folks, examining scriptures like we are suppossed to be doing... But if I have all knowledge but have not love, I am as a clanging cymbol... You said; "Every one takes this verse to mean..." Really? And you, perhaps, have some special insight and every one else is wrong? Please, I don't claim special insight, perhaps I should not have said everyone, and that might have been better? I am talking about the grammar there, please. Where does it say that being unbound, or loosed means you are free to remarry? Would you like to base your answer on Mathew 19? That is where some people would like to stand; that it means if one sins against you you can remarry... You said; Free to us, but at great cost. While we are not free to judge another's salvation, we can safely assume that a person who continues in a willful lifestyle of gross sin against God may not be saved at all, we can't rewrite the Scriptures to say what they don't say. I am not trying to rewirte scripture - I agree with you here about everything you are saying... We don't judge another's salvation - I keep trying to see how one can continue in sin and still be saved. This is something you have hit on here yourself. Please consider that I see the same thing, if a person is doing this they may not be saved. The counsel of scripture in the New Testament does absolutely teach that there is no sin that cannot be forgiven except one, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. It also teaches that if you continue willfully in sin and just never turn around and stop, you may not be saved at all; I,II,III John, Hebrews 6, Mathew 7:21-23. There is wheat and there is chaff; it is not up to me to say who is and is not, I never claim to do so. I am here to try to divide these scripture please. Let me know if you need me to stop, and I will consider not answering anyone's elses concerns either... Have Blessed Sunday, Tamara |
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142 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205355 | ||
Dear Dan, Very interesting indeed, did you see brother Tim Moran's last post to me about the meaning of the words commits adultery in the Mark passage? He is right, and how about this, Mark's account is the eldest account and may actually be considered to be more accurate by some commentators. I though it was interesting to rediscover that in Mark is actually says that who ever divorces his wife makes her an adulteress, having nothing to do with that she committed adultery. The reason for this is that there was no such thing as your father taking you back, your father arranged to have you remarried at the earliest possbible convenience and that made you an adulteress, which is what Jesus meant. Some of these issues are not reconcileable in the usual way do to the grammatical constructions from one account to another. Reconciling these accounts is not so simple as reconciling say, the tomb accounts. No one said there was a conflict, a difference maybe, not a conflict. While it is true that if we confess He is faithful to forgive, consider that you cannot remain in the sin and keep walking in it just because you were forgiven. I said it before, I will say it again; if this were a case of fornication and someone said, I repent, but kept right on living in it, would you think they were going to heaven? I don't think so, and I bet you don't either, but when it comes to adultery, depending on who is doing the exegesis someone gets a free pass. What no one except Tim Moran has been able to do, for lack of skill is to do a grammatical and an historical criticism of these passages thoroughly to see exactly what the Greek was saying, not a word study, that is not enough, the tenses, the finite minutia of Greek, and a real thorough histocial study to determine exactly what the author's intended the texts to mean. That stuff is not able to be seen by looking up every word in Greek, more is involved. For instance did you know that the word porneia can refer to a number of things according to, not how we see the word listed in the Strong's but according to how the word was used in the first century? The word inicates immorality many kinds; a woman being seen with another man in public, a man improperly touching a woman - on her face - her arm with a caress, as fornication by penetration, as adultery by penetration, as temple worship idol sex between homosexuals or lesbians or bewtween heterosexuals, as masturbation, as sexual fondeling another, need I go on? When we look at the grammar for Mark and see that it says whoever divorces his wife makes her an adulteress, we also can see that it makes him an aduterer, without qualification of cause. When we look at the grammar in Mathew we discover that the verse in question is clausal; whoever divorces his wife except for immorality, is the first clause; and marries another woman commits adultery is a second clause - the exegetical commentators say that the first clause states clearly the ability to get a divorce for immorality, but that the second clause depends on the first clause in a cause for getting a divorce by says absolutely nothing about the right to remarry. In I Corinthians 7:15 we have a big problem with the modern translation of a Greek transiliteration into English. Every one takes this verse to mean if the unbeliever leaves then you are free to remarry. The text says no such thing, it says that if they leave and are an unbeliever then the believer is not bound to reamain married, no where in the that text does it say you are free to get remarried, but people read that into it even though the English grammar, the Greek grammar does not support that. In fact Paul comments on the state of marriage and on what grounds one can remarry at the end of the passage in verse 39 saying a wife is bound to her husband as long as she lives, what it does not say is, but if one of them commits adultery you are free to remarry, you are certainly free to divorce in such a case, but not to remarry... There is no way to get that out of it without reading it into the text. Going to get those books that brother Tim Moran suggested in a post back there somewhere... God's Day To You, Tamara |
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143 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205339 | ||
Dear Pastor Moran, Yeah, I have heard this before, that she becomes an adulteress when her husband divorces her in Mark... People don't get the historical contexts and the grammatical contexts that drive these passages at all, they think in terms of now and what these transilterated words and passages mean in the now, not what they meant then. I have also in the past, due to circumstances had to explore the meaning of porneia, and porne the related word, in order to determine what constitutes such a thing. I had two pastors and three ministers do exegesis on this whole issue of Mathew 19, Mark 9, I Corinthians 7 and being unbound and in what way, what consituted porneia in the first century, and the use of grammar in all three passages. I settled for I Corinthians 7:11 after much much counseling and plan to err on the side of complete and utter caution and plan to remain in that state until the day I die, unless someone repents and then reconciliation could be possible. I find it interesting that if it were fornication and not stopping but saying, I repent that I entered into it would be completely unacceptable, but having committed adultery by remarrying and repenting and continuing in it for expedience sake is considered passe. I wonder what dear Apostle Paul would think? I wonder what dear Jesus would think? I think I would wonder hard before saying okay, I understand it is too late, go on ahead and stay in it. It is never too late to walk away from sin of any kind, just pick up and say I am done, cut it, suffer the consequences of walking away from sin, any sin. In the end only one Pastor, mine was against me getting divorced based on the exegesis. I had every reason according to the others exegesis to cut it and be free and remarry one day. That is why I was surprised to hear him say in Bible study the other day about the same thing John said after his exegesis many years ago. He holds the same view, if two Christians are now together, having gotten married, there is no reason why God would not forgive a past sin. Yeah, I think I will make the effort to purchase these two books for real Pastor Moran... Yours in Christ, Tamara |
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144 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205337 | ||
Dear Jim, Let me help you out here a bit, because I do understand what John was saying, which he said very simply and to the point... The sctipture would come from either Romans 7:2 where the widow is free to remarry since her husband has died, or I Corinthians 7:39 where the wife is free to remarry if her husband is dead. Please note the original thing that John was saying clearly; However, if that spouse does not repent, (i.e. keeps on doing what they are doing, without intent to change.) then you may divorce (According to our Lord) and remarry if you chose, to a one that has not been married, or widowed, or is not divorced for the wrong reason. Look closely at this one little part right here that John said, all I did was to add the commas like he said to do and it makes perfect sense; remarry if you chose, to a one that has not been married, or widowed, or is not divorced for the wrong reason. John says remarry if you chose, to the following types of folks, those that have never been married, or a widow, or one who is not divorced for the wrong reason. The first two can be found in I Corinthians 7, and the last in Mathew 19 according to John's reasoning here. Hope this clears it up, I think John got tired of talking about it all a while ago guys, let's lay this thing to rest. Okay? okay... God's Day To You, Tamara |
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145 | Jesus Powers Diminished As A Human? | John 1:14 | Tamara Brewington | 205335 | ||
Thanks Doc, I had got an answer that dove tails with this one today in school from my pastor... I wanted a second opinion from in here, glad you caught this one and gave me excellent posts, now I know what that faulty theory is called. Another very nice professor was teaching about the hyostatic nature of Christ and was saying that Jesus diminished His powers of being God to take on humanity and took on the Holy Spirit to do the works of God as the Christ. My pastor taught me today before class about the Doctrine of the Impecability of Christ and said that what I had been taught was incorrect because it is in direct contradiciton to this very important doctrine which would disallow for the posibility that Jesus as fully human could ever have the ability to choose to sin, while choosing not to, but indeed had the inability to sin, even though tempted to sin, and having the inability to sin, did not sin. The ability to choose to sin implies that there is a possibility that Jesus as fully God and fully human could have stopped being God, or could have diminished characteristicis of being God, and been able to actually sin as a choice. But Jesus as God was always incapable of sinning as He is God, even though he put on the flesh. Jesus may choose not to use His powers in full capacity, but He may never have the possbility of committing sin, or He is not God. This is what I was looking for Doc, the content of all three posts, fits the context of my questions on this subject. Thank you very much, good to hear from you after so long, Much Christian love to you my brother in Christ, Tam Tam |
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146 | About the Forum and Bible Study. | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 205334 | ||
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147 | About the Forum and Bible Study. | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 205333 | ||
Dear Forum Members, Just a little reveiw of some of our gracious host's guidelines in brotherly love to make this a place to be respected and used for the edification of the whole body of Christ. Quote from, About the Forum - It's like a free study Bible with an unlimited margin, that contained helpful verse notes, and was continually expanding. A resource where you can access and/or contribute to a dynamic repository of verse notes. It's not a discussion group or topical survey, but an ever growing "expository repository" that gives the layman and scholar an opportunity to share truth and contribute wisdom. Postings must be Biblically based and not opposing the Bible's sole authority (sola Scriptura), Christianity, or the deity of Jesus Christ. Let's all respect using the whole counsel of scripture in order to measure what constitutes the interepretation of a passage. Quote, How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth, by Gordon D. Fee, Douglas Stuart, pg.23 par.3; Exegesis is the careful, systematic study of the Scripture to disover the original, intended meaning. Quote, continued, pg.24, par.1; But one does not have to be an expert to do good exegesis. Quote, continuation, pg. 26, par. 2,3; There are two basic kinds of questions one should ask of every biblical passage: those that relate to the context and those that relate to content. Quote, continuation pg.27, par.2,5; What is the author saying, and why does he or she say it right here? Having made that point, what is he or she saying next, and why? Quote, continuation, pg.29, par.5; The reason for not beginning in the here and now is that the only proper control for hermeneutics is to be found in the original intent of the biblical text. Quote, continuation, pg.74, par.3; You will recall from chapter 1 that we set out as a basic rule the premise that a text cannot mean what it never could have meant to its author of his or her readers. Please remember we are doing Bible study in order build an expository repository of truth and wisdom. God's Day To You. |
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148 | Jesus Powers Diminished As A Human? | John 1:14 | Tamara Brewington | 205327 | ||
Dear Forum Members, Here is a question for your consideration; Did Jesus diminish His powers as God in order to become fully human, His omnipresence, omnipotence, or omniscience, and therefore, was it the Holy Spirit who was working through His humanity? Or did Jesus merely decide to put His full use of powers aside, in order to become fully human, retaining all His full powers of God and in addition to that receive an anointing of the Holy Spirit in order to fulfill righteousness? See these passages before attempting an answer please - Mathew 3:15, John 1:14, Colossians 1:17, Mathew 24:36, Luke 8:45. Please endeavor to divide scripture to arrive at your answer, as specualtion is fruitless, I say this in love and respect for others and ask the same in return. By His Infinite Grace, Tamara |
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149 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205325 | ||
Dear Pastor Moran, I appreciate the recommendation of the two books by Dr. Spiros Zodhiates, when I can I will order them. It is the exegesis of this that is of supreme interest to me and in the interests of brotherly love I am willing drop any subject at any time based on my experience in here if that pursual of further exegesis offends a brother or a sister. At least I have grown that much since joining this forum. I love conversing and studying with the saints who love to pursue exegesis, it drives the true meaning of the texts and hopefully these two books will endeavor to do just that, that is why and it is the only reason why I am in this Forum, to get at the meaning of the texts, for this I live. But to do so without love is loss to me... It becomes interesting as observation kicks in which types of concepts get kicked around in here and on what basis... Over a hundred posts on one subject lately... Not much of it very exegetically driven. I am no genious, nor am I what they would call a good exigete. I am a work in progress, I world at it and sometimes I am way off, and sometimes I am very alone in my endeavor. We are all from different backgrounds and come from different places and have different intrepretive lenses on, mine are not better, just different than some others. Thank you for your continued patience with my blundering efforts at exegesis Pastor Moran, and at good conduct, you have been more than gracious when I was on the wrong track at times and you kept on encouraging my blundering efforts to get at the root and the truth of a thing. But hey that is what Pastors are suppossed to do, right? Keep on being the Barnabas that you are, full of the Holy Spirit. Thank you, By God's Grace, Tamara |
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150 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205323 | ||
Dear John, I am letting this go out of respect for you and in love too... This was not about a disagreement or a not disagreement as far as what I intended to be doing with you John, in pursuing it. This was about that inquisitive mind we discussed before seeing something that did not line up with the whole counsel of scripture about sin John. I was not trying to push my view, if we disagree and that is what you can see about this, I respect that, and I do most sincerely apologize to you John, my brother in Christ. I don't come in here to address disagreements, only to look at what all the counsel of scripture when put together is driving the exegesis to dictate how a passage or scripture should be interpreted. I know for a fact that you agree that exegesis drives what the interpretation is going to be, not how we look at things, and not our views. So I will agree with you and say we disagree, and I will respect you and not push my views on you. And I will not do anything to make you feel disrespected John. I will lay aside my motives and my views about what I have done in pursuing this and see it your way in terms of how it appears to you, okay John? xoxoxox :):):):):):) By His Eternal And Indispensable Grace, Tam |
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151 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205317 | ||
Dear John, I am not trying to belabor this overly much dear heart, but something keeps niggling at my heart and my brain... It is the concept of being called to suffer in order to obey Christ as having first place before personal discomfort, "but if you burn, marry". I am thinking abuot another verse, "God will not test/tempt (which ever translation) you beyond what you are able, but will make a way out (usually, but not always a spiritualy one). Here is a concept to consider; if someone were a fornicator and then repented of their sin, but did not come out of that relationship would we still be saying that they are going to heaven? According to I Corinthians, I do not think so... Why then do we make this big allowance for Christians who remarry after divorce saying it is too late to change it, someone committed adultery on them (the text in Mark makes no such claim about adultery being the cause of the divorce that subsequently remarrying means it is adultery, only that marrying a divorced person constitutes adultery). And no, I do not think God want us to allow His child to be bound up and in mental pain and heart ache, but we are called to suffer Christ in order to obey Him when things don't go our way. What do you think? God Bless, Tam |
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152 | Is Jesus the same God as God, or a God? | John 1:1 | Tamara Brewington | 205313 | ||
Dear Colt45, Something is missing here in your understanding of all of what the word Logos means... It does mean what you say, but it also means something more important from the Strong's concordance; it means the Divine Expression, that is the Divine Expression of God Himself. This is why the other posts which were given to you from Colossians is important... You said in your second post; God, however you want to define him was born as a human being Jesus the Christ. The Creator/God the Father/YHWH put his mind his thoughts into a human being. This is the objection to your point up there; God did not put His mind His thoughts into Jesus Christ the human. Christ who is also fully God along with the Father, and who according to John 1:1,2 was there in the beginning with God and was also God, put His own God nature, Jesus put His own thoughts and mind into the body of a human by His own free choice as part of the Father's plan. Where it says in Colossians 1:16 that Jesus created all things, the universe, the authorities in heaven, and all things have been created by Him and for Him and through Him, that means He is equal with God the Father, they share the same powers the same abilities. But important to remember is that Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit are three distinct separate persons who each have their own thoughts, or mind, as in the Holy Spirit searches the mind of God to know what the will of God is, but all of them together are one being. Therefore it is not possible that God gave Jesus Christ the human God's thoughts, whether you are saying God the Father or Jesus the God, as God giving Jesus Christ the human His thoughts the concept is incorrect. God did not infuse a human with His thoughts, God incarnated Himself, put flesh on God as a covering. Hear this saying and understand; God put on humanity and humanity put on the divine. God did not infuse humanity with His thoughts, He put on human flesh on top of being God, that is why the Bible says that Jesus is God in the flesh among men. Jesus as God never stepped down from being God for even one moment of time, He never diminished His powers as God, He chose not to operate His powers fully as God in the flesh. This is called the Doctrine of the Impeccability of Christ. You may have meant something a little different from what you wrote when you said that the creator became a human being etc, and that His mind His thoughts became Christ. Christ means Messiah and Jesus as a member of the sovereign God head, the trinity, who has always existed from eternity past into eternity future was always going to become the Christ on earth. The Messiah was always going to be Jesus from eternity past to eternity future, there is no point in time, in eternity at which Jesus became the Christ, He has always been the Christ. Do you see now how Jesus who is the Logos, which also by the way meant to the Greeks all knowledge in the whole universe, and also which also means the cause, is the Divine Expression of God in the flesh? This is why John says in John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. This is what is meant by the Divine Expression, which is actually the first meaning given in the Strong's for the word Logos. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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153 | Why did satan dispute over moses body | Bible general Archive 4 | Tamara Brewington | 205310 | ||
Dear dscott1, Quote, MacArthur Bible Commentary, John MacArthur, pg.1983, par.1; :9 Michael...archangel. The chief angel of God who especially watches over Israel (Dan. 10:13,21; 12:1) and leads the holy angels (Rev. 12:7). Nowhere else in scripture is this struggle over the body of Moses mentioned. Michael had to fight Satan to do God's bidding, a he did on other occasion in Daniel 10:13 (see note there). the devil. Another name for Satan which means "accuser" or "slanderer" (cf. Rev. 12:9,10). body of Moses. Moses died on Mount Nebo in Moab without having entered the Promised Land and was secretly buried in a place not known to man (Deut. 34:5,6). It would likely be that this confrontation took place as Michael buried Moses to prevent Satan from using Moses' body for some diabolical purpose not stated. Perhaps Satan wanted to use it as an idol, an object of worship for Israel. God sent Michael, however, to make sure it was buried. This account was recorded in te pseudepigraphal Assumption of Moses (see Introduction: Interpretive Challenges). Hope this helps, By His Grace, Tamara |
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154 | Mistaken View Or False Doctrine? | Eph 1:13 | Tamara Brewington | 205296 | ||
Dear John! Good one! But I thought false doctrine is taught by false prophets and don't they go to hell automatically!? Like I said, no harm was meant by anyone who may or may not have answere the question. I gotta watch that folks may be answering without using my language, sorry John. God's Grace Tamara |
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155 | Mistaken View Or False Doctrine? | Eph 1:13 | Tamara Brewington | 205294 | ||
ohh poop, I am having trouble my computer is going to crash real soon.... I will try againg before going to school, or lying down again. |
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156 | Love One Another And Be Bereans. | Acts 17:10 | Tamara Brewington | 205291 | ||
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157 | Love One Another And Be Bereans. | Acts 17:10 | Tamara Brewington | 205290 | ||
Dear Forum Members, Acts 17:10-12 The brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessolonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men. I encourage you my brethren to continue to be Bereans and search the scriptures whether what you have heard be so. And encourage one another as the day grows long, for the evil one prowleth around seeking to destroy even the elect if it were possible. Love one another even as yourselves having this in mind, not to think of one's self more highly than you ought less you fall and disgrace the name of Christ. And receive the brethren with grace and eagerness knowing you were bought with a price in love accepting one another for the edification of the body. Each one has received a gift, having been sealed into the body of Christ by the Holy Spirit, receive one another knowing that the hand needs the foot and that none can say I have no need of you. May the grace of God be with every one here and may we learn what is the truth together as one, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen, Tamara |
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158 | Mistaken View Or False Doctrine? | Eph 1:13 | Tamara Brewington | 205287 | ||
Dear John, I dropped you a personal email to edify you, my dear brother in Christ. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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159 | Mistaken View Or False Doctrine? | Eph 1:13 | Tamara Brewington | 205286 | ||
Dear Cheri, I have insomnia, it is usesless to lay in bed taking medication that does not work, so I get up and study to while away the time before going back to bed for more torture. I actually have class tomorrow morning, but am too restless for the bed that is why I am up. I already agreed with this point of view, the truth if you will, but was more interested in whether or not anyone in here considers it to be false doctrine or merely a mistaken belief. Thank you for answering, I was afraid that once every one saw it was suppossedly answered that they wouldn't bother, which is why I stopped posting altogether. My real question never gets addressed and the whole thing gets lost in the shuffle. No one intends me any harm, they just answer the part that interests them, or that sticks out to them as being important and skip the actual question right over, which I clearly state every time. Like I said, no one means to be short, or any harm, every one here is sincere, I truly believe that or we would not be in here trying to divide the word of God. So I will pose the question again for you; Based on what I said in the original post, are Jesus plus concepts to be considered merely mistaken views about the process of salvation, or are they false doctrines? God's Day To You, Tamara |
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160 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205283 | ||
Dear John, Help me out here a bit John, one scripture by Jesus says whoever divorces his wife except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. The other scripture says whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her - this verse does not say anything about adultery in the equation, it simply says if you divorce and marry another you commit adultery. Here is another problem with the view that there is nothing you can do about a past faux pas and just move on; I Corinthians 7:39 A wife is bound to her husband as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. Second problem with this view that it is okay move on; I Corinthians 6:9 Adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. And Hebrews 6:4-6 Those who have fallen away, that is who keep right on going in sin, have no more means of renewal to repentance since they crucify the Lord again. What do you think my good fellow? God's Day, Tam |
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