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141 | Help, parents need encouragement! | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201420 | ||
Dear justme, Maybe because this is a Bible study forum and it appears you have been pretty adamant in disregarding or at the very least belittling the Scripture references and its efficacy that is being provided to you. Now that may not have been your intention, but when you make statements such as: “Please please, if you do not have a book suggestion written by a current day author do not respond.” and… “You Scripture advice is good, but not what I was looking for, to get them.” and even… “Does anyone know of a book (other than the Bible) I could refer them to”… It appears that you are attempting to forego a biblical answer in lieu of one that by implication would be more appropriate or helpful. My concern, and I think others as well, is that the Word of God is being taken lightly as if it is not capable to provide a sufficient answer in this particular situation. Many Scripture references have been provided so I don’t think it is necessary to post them again. justme, being children of God and showing a massive disrespect to our Father, which we do with every sin against a Holy God, how do you suppose He deals with us as disrespectful and disobedient children? Maybe we should view our own relationships with our children as such and act in a manner similar to the gracious love God shows us. Other than loving your children and doing the best with the gifts God has provided you in bringing them up as just as importantly having a prayerful approach in every way and finally giving the worries over to God, what more can we do? All of this is explained and elucidated very well within God’s word. I don’t mean to seem uncaring or show a lack of compassion, because I would be horribly dejected I know, if I would end up in the same circumstances and pray my Lord does not allow that to happen. But what could I possibly do other than to rely on my God should that come about. After all, He has been and continues to be in the very situation your friends are currently in. 2Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. I admire the desire you have to help your friends in need. I just fear you are approaching it in the wrong manner. You should be uplifting them with the Word of God. I pray they do find comfort and relief from their pain and struggles and may God be glorified in that. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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142 | Help, parents need encouragement! | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201387 | ||
Dear Jamison, You can do both, but only one is from the source of all truth. The Lord gives wisdom. We have the responsibility to seek that wisdom to obtain an understanding of the fear of the Lord, and in that, find the knowledge of God. The source of all truth will direct and guide us. Worldly wisdom is sure to lead us astray. Proverbs 3:5,6: 5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. The problem as I have read in the thread, is that God’s word has not proven to be sufficient in this case, therefore, extra-biblical sources for wisdom and understanding are desired. My friend, God’s word is always sufficient. Yes it may be beneficial in some way to read of others sharing the same hardships, but it appears to me anyhow, that God’s Word has been given up on in this case and that is dreadful because if divine wisdom doesn’t cut it, what is left is sure not going to and where does that leave us? Proverbs 2:1-9: 1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; 2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; 3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; 4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; 5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. 6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. 7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly. 8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints. 9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path. “We must closely attend to the word of God, for that is the word of wisdom, which is able to make us wise unto salvation, Pro_2:1, Pro_2:2. (1.) We must be convinced that the words of God are the fountain and standard of wisdom and understanding, and that we need not desire to be wiser than they will make us. We must incline our ear and apply our hearts to them, as to wisdom or understanding itself. Many wise things may be found in human compositions, but divine revelation, and true religion built upon it, are all wisdom.” – Matthew Henry “and find the knowledge of God; such a knowledge of God as is not to be found by the light of nature, in the whole volume of the creatures, and in all the writings of the philosophers; no, nor in the law of Moses; for though much of God and his perfections may be seen and known by the things that are made, and much of the will of God by the law he gave; yet by neither of these is the knowledge of God in Christ, which is "life eternal". This only is to be found in the Gospel, and by means of it; here only it is brought to light; and through this men not only find it, but increase more and more in it: herein is a glorious display of his persons and perfections, of his counsels and purposes, of his covenant and promises, of his mind and will, with respect to doctrine and worship; and of the way of peace, life, and salvation, by Jesus Christ; which must serve greatly to engage and excite persons to a diligent search and pursuit after it. And all that is here said is designed to encourage a diligent search after divine things; for, as the poet says, there is nothing so difficult but by searching may be found out.” – John Gill Stand in His grace, WOS |
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143 | Help, parents need encouragement! | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201376 | ||
Dear Jamison, Welcome to the forum. A question for you if I may; You need comforting and consoling for a problem that seems to be so heavy on your heart, it feels as though it is being crushed. Do you seek refuge in fallible man and hope for the best, or do you seek refuge from an unfailing God and His word knowing the best will be? Seeking the first over the later seems to be a slap in the face of the Creator who demands you seek Him first, does it not? His Word is alive my friend, so live in it. Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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144 | Help, parents need encouragement! | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201372 | ||
Dear justme, You’re asking again and again for help from a source that may indeed help in some trivial manner, but nonetheless can offer only a personal experience that may or may not relate to the situation your friends are in. The fact of the matter is, the repetitious reference to scripture is the soundest advice you can offer, they being in he ministry should understand that. Who but Christ can effectually calm their worries and comfort them when they need it most. Personally, in times of suffering, we should dwell more heavily in the Word of God for therein lies the answers and the promises of comforting and strengthening when we need it most. A good point is that in our suffering, we can find Christ and pull closer, and it starts with the Word. But so many today feel there is a more viable solution outside of scripture and rather than looking to Christ, we look for other, fallible advice, in which to find comfort. There is something fundamentally wrong with that, don’t you think? The only one, who can heal us in every way, is pushed by the wayside in lieu of something else more appealing at the time, and sometimes, maybe inadvertently, keeps us from pulling closer to our Comforter. “Even in the secular spheres, contemporary Americans are mad after the theology of glory, expecting success on the job, perfect families, and either self-help remedies or government action to solve all our problems. But Americans today cannot handle suffering. We would rather die than suffer. We would rather be killed than suffer. Send for Dr. Kevorkian! But the truth of Christianity is evident in that everyone does, in fact, have problems, struggles, and sufferings. And this can be their point of contact for Christ, who on the cross not only “was wounded for our transgressions” but also “has borne our griefs” and “carried our sorrows” (Isa. 53:4–5).” - Dr. Gene Edward Veith http://www.ligonier.org/tabletalk/2008/3/1048_Glory_Versus_the_Cross For what it is worth, it is apparent how persistent you are in your search to find something to help this couple, and I truly see how desperately you would like to help and I hope you do in a way pleasing to God. But while searching, reflect on how difficult the search has been and wonder if just maybe, the search is in vain, for the answer has been presented and placed in front of you all along. And maybe, just maybe, that is the reason your search has been so difficult. Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. “That hope which hath eternal life for its object is here proposed as the end of scripture-learning. The scripture was written that we might know what to hope for from God, and upon what grounds, and in what way. This should recommend the scripture to us that it is a special friend to Christian hope. Now the way of attaining this hope is through patience and comfort of the scripture. Patience and comfort suppose trouble and sorrow; such is the lot of the saints in this world; and, were it not so, we should have no occasion for patience and comfort. But both these befriend that hope which is the life of our souls. Patience works experience, and experience hope, which maketh not ashamed, Rom_5:3-5. The more patience we exercise under troubles the more hopefully we may look through our troubles; nothing more destructive to hope than impatience. And the comfort of the scriptures, that comfort which springs from the word of God (that is the surest and sweetest comfort) is likewise a great stay to hope, as it is an earnest in hand of the good hoped for. The Spirit, as a comforter, is the earnest of our inheritance.” - Matthew Henry Just some thoughts. Stand in His Grace, WOS |
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145 | need answer | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201226 | ||
You know brother lionheart... It’s so hard to let go of worry and anxiety sometimes. I never really looked into how the word is used in scripture. I don’t think I really understood the actual meaning of the word and am now looking at it in a different light especially regarding yours and sister Azure’s notes. Even when I think it could be a positive thing, I’m not so sure it is. I ran across some info from R.C. Sproul that I found interesting and wanted to share as well. Philippians 4:6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. “Elsewhere, the apostle Paul in writing to the Philippians gives them the admonition to be “anxious for nothing,” telling them that the cure for anxiety is found on one’s knees, that it is the peace of God that calms our spirit and dissipates anxiety. Again, we can be anxious and nervous and worried without finally submitting to ultimate despair. This coexistence of faith and spiritual depression is paralleled in other biblical statements of emotive conditions. We are told that it is perfectly legitimate for believers to suffer grief. Our Lord Himself was a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Though grief may reach to the roots of our souls, it must not result in bitterness. Grief is a legitimate emotion, at times even a virtue, but there must be no place in the soul for bitterness. In like manner, we see that it is a good thing to go to the house of mourning, but even in mourning, that low feeling must not give way to hatred. The presence of faith gives no guarantee of the absence of spiritual depression; however, the dark night of the soul always gives way to the brightness of the noonday light of the presence of God.” – R.C Sproul http://www.ligonier.org/tabletalk/2008/3/1042_The_Dark_Night_of_the_Soul From Ligonier Ministries and R.C. Sproul. © Tabletalk magazine. Website: www.ligonier.org/tabletalk. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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146 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 201125 | ||
Dear parpar, I apologize if I wasn’t clear with the intent of my post. It was in response to your statement concerning your understanding of how a sinner is justified and the importance you appeared to place on the sinner and their acceptance of salvation and it being simply considered the right thing to do. If the implication of your understanding was that faith was the catalyst or instrument, I missed it. Thus the reason I responded as I did. I’m kind of a say what you mean and mean what you say type of guy… I take much at face value especially what I read. I tend not to go looking for hidden or obscure implications unless I am prompted to do so, again, probably me, not reading into your understanding. If your understanding is such that it is nothing we do in justification and that it is wholly on God’s account through our faith in Christ, then I have no disagreement with you on that point, you just didn’t stated it in that manner and I still pick up even in your latest response that you lean somewhat heavily on the human effort. God’s call is effectual parpar, and when He calls us, we respond. So I’m not sure why you seem to emphasize “our acceptance” so much. Ezekiel 36:26,27: 26 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. So with that, back to our point of justification as being God’s work and not ours… Romans 3:21-26: 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Ephesians 1:6,7: 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; I scanned over the content of the link you sent and it appeared to indicate the same, that faith is the instrument but it also points out that it is accompanied with the other saving graces and is not a dead faith. Again attributed to God through Christ and not dependant on anything we think we can or cannot do. It’s all according to the mercy of God. Titus 3:4-8: 4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. I tend to think that there was never a contradiction between Paul and James and that it is really not that difficult to comprehend. The problem is in the approach men take when reading and comparing the two. We fail often, I think, to take into consideration the whole counsel of God’s Word and therefore see things only in part as we read them. We must learn to keep His Word in the constant perspective of 2 Timothy 3:16. The small word “all” is actually a pretty big word in meaning and it is indicative of the fact that we must take it “all” into consideration when we reflect upon God’s glory as well as our salvation and living in His grace. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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147 | does this sound familiar? | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200727 | ||
This does as well: Proverbs 1:28-33: 28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: 29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD: 30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. 31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. 32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. 33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil. Seems like all five of Gibbon's reasons could be summed up as ungodliness. Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Stand in His grace, WOS |
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148 | Passage may say some born cannot be save | 2 Pet 2:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200580 | ||
Granny here are a couple that come to mind. Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. They don't acually speak to that subject, but I see how they can be read as such. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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149 | Reconciling Scripture verses. | OT general | Wild Olive Shoot | 200557 | ||
Dear parpar, Not going in depth regarding the rest of your posts on this particular thread… Can I point out that in part, it may be that your understanding of justified may be somewhat off the beaten path, so to speak. I don’t think God justifies because we have done the right thing in accepting his offer of salvation, but rather by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Jesus Christ unto us. And this not by anything we do, because it requires faith which is a gift from God to begin with. Romans 4:5-8: 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. Ephesians 2:7-9: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. In faith lies the justification. Romans 5:1,2: 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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150 | positive and negative impact of monarchy | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200489 | ||
booboo, The question is rather vague and I’m assuming the insinuation is to the impact from some biblical perspective or example. That being the case, I dare to say that one positive impact of a monarchy is that you are under the protection of the king. Conversely, you also can fall under his wrath. A few examples I can pull, though there are others I’m sure and probably clearer as well. Romans 13:1-6: 1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Proverbs 8:15,16: 15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice. 16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth. But these don’t specifically call out types of governments but maybe rather just those in civil authority. I’ve probably posted too much already. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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151 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200339 | ||
I see Doc gave a more sound answer than I could have. I can add John Gill’s comment on that subject as well if it will lend any support. But really, Doc’s answer seemed to address your question rather well. “but eternal glory is here meant, which is what the apostle had been speaking of in the context; is what the elect are predestinated and called unto; and which their justification gives them a right and title to; and will consist in a likeness to Christ, in communion with him, in an everlasting vision of him, and in a freedom from all that is evil, and in an enjoyment of all that is good; and so the great end of predestinating grace will be answered in them mentioned in the foregoing verse: now this glorification may be said to be already done, with respect to that part of God's elect, who are in heaven, inheriting the promises; and is in some sense true also of that part of them which is on earth, who are called and justified; being made glorious within by the grace of Christ, and arrayed and adorned with the glorious robe of his righteousness; by the one they have a meetness, and by the other a right to eternal glory; of which this grace they have received is the beginning, pledge, and earnest: besides, they are already glorified in Christ, their head and representative, and in the view of God, and with respect to the certainty of it, it being prepared and made ready for them, is in the hands of Christ for them, and is insured to their faith and hope. It is an observation of a Jewish writer (n), "that a thing, "which is decreed to be", is spoken of in the past tense:'' this is the Scripture style concerning things decreed, and such is the glorification of all God's elect.” – John Gill Stand in His grace, WOS |
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152 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200320 | ||
Thanks Azure. Nice to be back. Getting my feet wet slowly... a bunch of new names to get familiar with. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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153 | Okay to question faith and the Bible? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200295 | ||
I think the following sums it up pretty well. Romans 8:28-30: 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. The Westminster Confession of Faith: Chapter X: Of Effectual Calling I. All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, He is pleased, in His appointed time, effectually to call, by His Word and Spirit, out of that state of sin and death, in which they are by nature to grace and salvation, by Jesus Christ; enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God, taking away their heart of stone, and giving unto them an heart of flesh; renewing their wills, and, by His almighty power, determining them to that which is good, and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ: yet so, as they come most freely, being made willing by His grace. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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154 | I there a book about the hall of souls | Col 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200265 | ||
Thanks God lover, but it is not a subject I care to invest much time in. Like I said, I was mostly just thinking out loud. Stand in HIs grace, WOS |
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155 | I there a book about the hall of souls | Col 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200258 | ||
I went back and read the post you noted Doc... Makes one wonder about the individuals who may possibly be clones in the future. Can they create a soul in the lab too? Man's desire to be God... Wasn't there another who wanted the same thing? Just thinking out loud. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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156 | Is it easy for God to forgive? | Matt 6:15 | Wild Olive Shoot | 199968 | ||
Excellent thoughts brother. Thank you much for sharing. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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157 | Is it easy for God to forgive? | Matt 6:15 | Wild Olive Shoot | 199902 | ||
Since it took Jesus to fully satisfy the justice of God, could it really be that easy? Our redeemer has been part of the eternal plan. It’s somewhat difficult for me to understand the easy part since God went to such great lengths. But the statement was made to me that would agree with your post, thus the reason I posted the question, to get perspectives from others. I know it has been a while since I last posted brother, but I would hope you all still remember enough of me to know that I’ll seek a more in-depth answer than that. Call me crazy, but… Would still like your humble opinion if you wouldn’t mind pondering it for a little while. If it’s still the same, then I’ll have to accept it now won’t I? By the way, nice talking to you again. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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158 | How does one win grace? | Genesis | Wild Olive Shoot | 196122 | ||
So in a roundabout way, you intended to express that the "victory" is solely God's and that He so graciously permits us the benefits of the victory He secured. Pedantic? Please. I’m as unqualified as they come, so even if I tried, I don’t believe I could nitpick and would truly not want the same done to me, as I do make many errors or misstatements and have so much more to learn. I just simply saw an opportunity to give credit where credit is due in response to a statement that in this layman’s understanding, may not have. I feel better now that it is clear as to where the Glory belongs, don’t you? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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159 | How does one win grace? | Genesis | Wild Olive Shoot | 196098 | ||
You made sure you repeated or reiterated "we win" which can be seen as giving us the glory, like we had something to do with it. Yet all of things you mention that "we" receive are due to the grace of God. So I’m just asking, how does one win grace? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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160 | Happy Reformation Day (490 Years) | Eph 6:14 | Wild Olive Shoot | 195574 | ||
"The just shall live by faith." Romans 1:17 Stand in His grace, WOS |
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