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121 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68933 | ||
charis, Type 68925 in the quick search and read what this person says on this topic. To drink or not to drink will always be a controversial subject. As for "been there and done that" thumbs up and bottoms up. God bless |
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122 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68924 | ||
No problem. I'll let you know when there available, so you can glean :) | ||||||
123 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68915 | ||
John, Well stated! God bless |
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124 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68857 | ||
Joe-- "Does this "red flag" go up every time you see one of the apostles using the word "but" in Scripture, too? Please be sensible!" No, actually it has the opposite meaning in scripture, more positive meaning such as; Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Paul gives his message using, (BUT) a better way of living; Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,. "It is not the alcohol that is the "demon," though." This is true, the the problem is not the alcohol, alcohol is a solution to an addicts problem, the wrong solution. This thread is only directed to the drinking or use of wine in the form of alcohol. The use of the word (But) would require another thread :) God bless |
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125 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68846 | ||
John, "But" this view does not take into account the work of the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer." (this is what you stated). That first word (But), in the recovery world is always viewed as a denial word, for me this is a red flag. However, I post the following in terms that I hope you will find easy to follow; I have spent time talking with alcoholics who want to stop, but they have difficulty because it is a drug that is chemically addictive. Almost all of them say it's like a demon that has control of their lives. And because it is addictive, it becomes a self-inflicted disease. They simply cannot stop drinking, they say, even though they know it will destroy them and everyone around them. The compulsion to drink is so deep that they often resort to stealing, lying and cheating just to get a drink. I believe that God, through his Holy Spirit can heal them, but the temptation to drink -- and there are those in this boat in practically every church in America -- seldom goes away. A little taste of alcohol, or watching a respected leader have a beer, or being in the wrong place at the wrong time, can help set it off. Images on television or at sporting events can also trigger the craving. The apostle Paul in Romans 14:21 tells us that we are to avoid doing things if it causes our brother to "stumble" or "is offended or is made weak," even if our conscience is O.K. on the matter. The Bible also tells us to "present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of you mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God" (Romans 12:1-2). The way I see things, just the fact that everyone seems to be drinking is not good reason to participate. Peter reminds us that we are to look at the eternal perspective in all things because we are "sojourners and pilgrims" on this earth. We're just passing through. Therefore, "abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul" (1 Peter 2:11). I can almost hear the objections now from some who might call me a "pietist." There will be some who'll accuse me of being a legalist. They might say that Psalm 104:15 declares that "wine makes glad the heart of man." Didn't they call Jesus a winebibber and a sinner? The problem is, there are many more verses warning against the abuse of alcohol. Proverbs 20:1 says "wine is a mocker," and in every place in both the Old and New Testaments, drunkenness is outright condemned. Ephesians 5:18 tells us to "not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit." This contrasts drunkenness with being Spirit-filled. When people drank wine during the time of the Bible, it was very rarely -- if ever -- done in the same manner it is today. The nature and uses of wine was different. There were certainly no bars around in the same way as there is today. Drinking was not intertwined with the entertainment and sports industry as it is today. There were no billboards and media campaigns promoting drinking that were bombarding people all day long. Instead, wine was part of the sustenance of the Middle Eastern peoples, and in some cases it was used for medicinal purposes (1 Timothy 5:23). Today it is a supplemental luxury used almost exclusively in social settings. I am convinced that the enemy of our souls wants to promote drunkenness as much as possible. He wants to keep many in a daze every moment of their lives so they never get serious with Jesus. The enemy has almost succeeded in doing this in some cultures around the world. Thank you again for your response. God bless |
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126 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68827 | ||
Proverbs 31:4-5 "It is not for kings. O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink." Lest they drink and forget the law, and pervert the judgement of any of the afflicted." The danger for kings and princes is clear. If they drink, they will forget the law, and make wrong judgements. "The only accepted use of alcohol" in the Bible is verses 6 and 7 of the same chapter: "Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine to those that be of heavy hearts." "Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more." This is clearly what the scriptures teach. Thank you for your response also. As you can see, this topic was orignally posted last year, and will be brought up again, no doubt, in the future :) God bless |
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127 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68804 | ||
(con't.) Part 2 Third reason; 1. John 2, the miracle of turning water to wine, does not require that it be alcoholic. Many insist that on the basis of verse 10 in that chapter, that the wine must have been alcoholic. They would say that, in those days, it was common to serve the best alcoholic wine first, saving the worse until later, when men's tongues have been dulled by much drinking. They miss the point here! The words, "well drunk" in this passage mean, "to be filled up", such as "well drunk up". They show their ignorance of Scripture and Old English language meanings, as well as today's word meanings! The fact is, neither the wine which they had at first, nor the one Christ made, was alcoholic. Would Jesus join with Evil? Or violate the verse "Abstain from all appearance of evil" in 1 Thess. 5:22? 2. This next reason is found the same passage as 1.) In verse 11, Jesus "Manifested forth his glory". Would Jesus have gotten more glory by making people drunk? If they had indeed been already intoxicated as the people mentioned in 1.) advocate, would He have gotten more glory by making them more drunker? . 3. This reason is found in the passage mentioned in 1.) also. In verse 11, we notice that as a result of what He did, "the disciples believed on him." Would making alcoholic drink do that? Since John 1:41 shows that they already believed on Him as Messiah, this must mean a deepening of their faith and a proof that they had not been wrong. Would getting people drunk do this? On the contrary! Thus, because of the description of this miracle and it's result, we cannot conclude otherwise but that this wine was non-alcoholic. 4. 1 Cor. 6:9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, or effeminate, or abusers of themselves with mankind," "Nor theives, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." God makes His position clear; drinking alcoholic wine and strong drink is against His Word. It is Sin, pure and simple. "Social drinking" is but one part of this sin. God is not a killjoy. He is warning us for our own sakes! God Bless |
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128 | word for wine in the original text? | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68803 | ||
John, Part 1 I will answer your post in two parts, as there is no possible way for me to briefly address your doubt's. First reason; The making of Alcoholic drink is not strictly a natural process. Many take for granted that if you take the juice of a grape, and let it sit, not refrigerating it, it would automatically turn into wine. This is not true. It takes more than time to make wine. People try to defend drinking with the idea that since God made grapes, alcoholic drink must be OK. But the fact is, God did not make alcohol! Man has learned how to make alcoholic liquors through processes that he has invented. Wine makers know that one must have the correct amount of water, sugar and temperature to make wine. Keeping grape juice in a refrigerator would prevent fermenting, because the temperature is not right. Likewise, hot, tropical temperatures would prevent fermentation. In ancient days, before we had refrigeration, people learned how to preserve the juice of the grape without turning it into alcoholic wine. Many people boiled it down into a thick syrup, preserving it for long periods of time. When they got ready to drink it, they would simply add water to the consistency desired, in much the same way we take frozen concentrates and add water. In Bible days, contrary to what most believe, it was not necessary for everyone to drink alcoholic wine as a table beverage. The making of wine, therefore, requires input from man. It requires certain additives, such as sugar, and the control of temperature, etc. The natural processes will produce fermentation under certain circumstances, that is true, but those processes lead quickly to turning the wine to vinegar. The natural process is perverted by man. Alcoholic drinks must be produced by man, using invented processes, not natural processes. ********************************* Jesus did not drink alcohol or make alcoholic drinks. Heb. 7:26 "For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;" The second reason is because of His Holy Nature. No doubt, the Saviour had an air of holiness about Himself that could be seen by the most simple of people. The words of Jesus were different, He had a very holy appearance, character and speech. Why is this so important? Consider this illustration. Suppose we lived during the 1920's prohibition days, and were approached by people offering us a drink of cider. Now, "cider" may mean an alcoholic drink, or plain apple juice. One of the persons, we knew to be one of the holiest men in town, faithful to the house of God, separated from the world, diligent in prayers, always witnessing to others; the other was a known liquor dealer. If each one offered us a drink of "his very own cider", we would assume that the holy person's cider was no more than apple juice, while there would be no doubt about the liquor dealer's cider! Clearly, the character of a person influences what he does. Since Jesus Christ was "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners", we may safely assume He would not make what is called in Scripture "a mocker and deceiver of men," causing untold misery. (con't.) |
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129 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68668 | ||
retxar, Your insight to this thread has clearly answered some old questions of "to drink or not to drink". I have included a small portion from my notes on this topic: The word, "wine" in the Bible is an generic term. Sometimes it means fresh grape juice, other times it means alcoholic drinks. The context always shows when "wine" refers to Alcoholic drinks. How does it do that? For example, in Genesis chapter 9, God shows Noah's experience with wine. God shows that Noah "drank of the wine, and was drunken", showing the bad effects of the wine and the results of his drinking it. The context will always show if it is wine by the warnings or results that are listed by the Lord. A. Wine - fruit of the vine. Deut. 11:4; 2 Chr. 31:5; Neh. 13:15; Pr. 3:10; Isa. 16:10, 65:8; 1 Tim 5:23. All of these verses show that the context shows wine is grape juice. Christians often use 1 Tim. 5:23 as an excuse to drink. Paul was advising Timothy to drink GRAPE JUICE to help his troublesome stomach. Clearly, Timothy had stomach problems. Any Doctor will tell you a person with stomach trouble needs to avoid alcohol; it will make it worse. Would Paul want to hurt him? or make him violate Scriptures? B. Wine - alcoholic drinks. In the following verses, a partial list, we will see something interesting. Proverbs 20:1 "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." We notice the word "deceived" in this verse. Wine is deceptive; but how? In the very way that people advocate today, that drinking a little bit will not hurt. Everyone readily admits that drinking too much is bad; even the alcohol companies tell us not to drink and drive, but they advocate that "a little bit won't hurt!" This is deceptive. How? No one knows how much is a little bit for each person. Each person is different. Even the "experts" differ on how much is a "little bit". When a person drinks, the alcohol causes them to make rather bad decisions, do things that they would not sober. In this way, it is deceptive. It makes you think you are making good choices when you are not. Drinking and Driving is not a good choice, but many people do. Noah is an example of this. Would he normally be laying in his tent naked? No. A person in a tent keeps their clothes on- who knows who will walk in? Noah got drunk, uncovered himself (no doubt because he was hot), and the rest is history. Wine deceives us into doing foolish things; therefore it says "whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." Proverbs 23:29-32 "Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? "They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine." "Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright." "At the last it biteth like an serpent, and stingeth like an adder." Clearly, from these verses, this is alcoholic wine. Grape Juice does not cause woe, sorrow, contentions (fighting), babbling, imagined slights, or red eyes. Alcohol does. All of us know someone who has lost family or friends due to drinking through liver damage, drunk drivers, alcohol poisoning. Alcoholic has brought more untold sorrow and grief than all the wars in the world. Clearly, the context here is alcoholic wine, and God warns against it! |
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130 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68417 | ||
EdB, Thanks, and I mean this in a positive way, my understanding is mutual. God has and never will let me down. We serve the One True God, He has bought me with a price, His Son Jesus, my Savior, given me a purpose and a distiny. God rewards our faith by providing that which we believe Him for. So many times Jesus has made statements such as "according to thy faith be it unto thee" and "Thy faith has made thee whole." He has made answered prayer conditional upon faith (Mark 11:22-24; James 1:5-7; 5:14-16) and doing His works (John 14:12). God in His sovereignty has decided that He will only reward those who will believe Him. Anyone who does not believe makes God a liar and that person cannot expect to receive from God (1 John 5:10). The Bible is full of example of those who limit God from working in their lives due to unbelief (Num. 13-14; Matt. 13:58; 17:20; Heb. 3-4). It has nothing to do with God's sovereign will to bless or not bless. God, in His sovereignty, has decided to respond to FAITH and will do so because He is Holy. This does not make Him man's servant as the critics want to imply. He still requires our obedience (which is what faith is), our worship, and our reverence. Word-Faith, by no means, has delegated the Almighty One to the level of a servant. Instead, we have recognized Him as our Father with whom we obey. God bless |
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131 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68354 | ||
EdB, Your story doesn't even come close to what is written in God's Word. |
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132 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68297 | ||
Hank-- Why do you and your friend keep labeling me with The Word of Faith movement. I never heard of that before until you both introduced that title here on the forum. Also, all you see is that Paul suffered, you never mention the miracles he experienced. Now you tell me, what is God going to do for you, that He hasn't already done? I never mentioned once anywhere that we as christians walk a path paved with sweetness and light, although there is no darkness in Christ. I experienced sufferings, do you think for one moment that this is coming from God, and I should say "I'm suffering for God?" With all the promises of God you want me to let that lying devil have victory over my life! Would you be crystal clear on what I'm saying, if I said, I'm on my way to heaven, I hope I make it, this road is sure rough but I'll keep remembering all those who suffered before me. It was good enough for them, so it must be good enough for me, woe is me! Anyway back to our topic about paul's suffering; "Paul suffered beatings, shipwrecks, a stoning, sleepless nights,hunger, thirst, in cold and exposure [2 Cor.11:21-33]." In those days, they dug holes in the ground outside of the city. Whenever they were to stone someone, they would push the victim into the hole. Then, a crowd would gather around the hole and throw big rocks at the person's head, until they were certain that it was completely crushed. From biblical evidence, it seems that Paul was actually dead. The timing would be about 14 years before he was to write 2 Corinthians, which would make Acts 14 the time when he died and temporarily went to heaven to see the visions mentioned in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. Then what happened? God raised Paul from the dead right on the spot and Paul marched right back into the same city! This is why Paul had an "infirmity of the flesh" – His skull had been crushed and he was walking around looking like that. So, instead of disproving the biblical teaching on healing, this passage in Galatians demonstrates God's supernatural healing and resurrection power. Paul was walking around supernaturally with this and many other injuries. I still have to explain the phrase "you would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me" (v.15). From these words, people have concluded that Paul had an eye disease. This interpretation is both irresponsible and dishonest – it had extinguished many people's hope for receiving healing from God. "Would have plucked out your own eyes" is simply an expression! Just like a "thorn in the flesh" is an expression equivalent to a "pain in the neck." You want to know what Paul believed? He believed this: "But if the Spirit of him that raised Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you" (Romans 8:11). It happened to him time and time again. Now how bad can that be! |
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133 | A short not of thanks to "Joe" | 1 John 3:4 | inmyheart | 68267 | ||
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134 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68265 | ||
Edb, I'm not defending my beliefs. I'm believing in God's written Word, not with "enough faith", but with faith as small as a mustard seed :) God is not obligated to provide me with health, wealth and deliverance, He already has, we live in His completed work, what I have to do is come in agreement with His Word, with faith. The rest of what you posted is your own opinion. Gal 6:9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. Gal 6:10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith. Please don't use word like "baloney, sickening, that's childish; 1Cor. 13:11 |
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135 | Principles of Morals | Bible general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 68117 | ||
prayon, Still looking ah!... Just type David Hume into your address bar on your browser and you will find everything you need to know about this person, I happened to only send you a few. God bless you as you search..Happy Thanksgiving! |
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136 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68116 | ||
Charis, Eph. 3:20-21 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen. Greetings, you say "I am guessing that you have had relatively few sick days, and overcome many obstacles in your Christian walk." And I say Amen! God not only saved me and added my name to the book of life, but delivered me from my addictions (alcohol and drugs), anointed me to say yes to the counsel of His will. All of my household have been saved (that's in itself is awesome), and yes, I have not experienced any sickness since receiving Christ into my life (over 2 yrs.), actually I thought this was common until I began meeting other Christians who say this is a bunch of hog wash, can you imagine that! Anyway I was reading this book called the Bible, and reading Ephesians, and when I came across Ch. 2 v.10, I gave my life to God. I was not able to walk, but I went to church and this pastor prayed for my leg, he told me not to doubt, but just believe, now I'm walking. So what do you say I should call this? Healed, receive or delievered? or a bunch of baloney :) What about those with a 'less-favorable' testimony? Do we teach them that God may or may not fullfill His promises? That was only for those in the bible? Created loop holes, just in case nothing happens? Charis, I hear you, believe me I do! I go through those valley's too, but I know also that His goodness and mercy is following me everywhere I go. I pray every day to do the will of our Father, and I do stumble, but God tells me that He will never leave me or forsake me, hey that's good enough for me. I'm challenged every day of my life, there is a accurer of the brethren, that old lying devil that doesn't want me to believe God's promises, he is after my soul, and I resist him. He'll use others to cast those thoughts too, but we (I have read this in the Word) are to cast those thoughts down. God has a purpose for my life, as yours, we were planned for God's pleasure, formed for God's family, created to be like Christ, shaped for serving God and made for a mission. Thanks for taking the time to read this, maybe I should paste it to my profile...nah, I'll get a post on that too :) God bless you as God leads you to your destiny. Have a happy thanksgiving (do you celebrate this day over in that country)...Everyone should be thankfull. |
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137 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68111 | ||
Edb, I was refering to terminology to the poster. The paste didn't pick Luke 4:18 either. Read the post again. What is your point anyway? |
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138 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68096 | ||
Hank-- I was getting ready to reply, then I got soft when I read your closing words. So for now :) happy Thanksgiving to you and yours also, and may our Lord continue to strengthen you in this healing process of your heart. Praise Him God bless |
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139 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68093 | ||
Still hanging in there? Having the time of your life are you? Well, Have a great tomorrow (Lord willing), I believe we can ALL agree in being THANKFULL HAPPY THANKSGIVING! |
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140 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | inmyheart | 68092 | ||
BradK, This is your conclusion; "I also do not see the terminology of "release healing,prosperity, and deliverance" as being scriptural! A doctrine of men maybe, but taught in the Word of God, no." So I went to blueletterbible.org, and type in release and this is what came up; Deliver, Deliverance, Deliverer : release"). In Heb. 11:35 it is translated "deliverance;" usually Deliver, Deliverance, Deliverer : "deliverance," RV, "release"). See FORGIVENESS, REMISSION. In answer to your above statement, you need to search and do a word study. Just because people mention "RAPTURE", I can't say "I don't see that terminology" in the bible, so it must not be true, see! I believe in ALL the promises of God; healing, prosperity, deliverance, rapture, miracles, blessing, Grace and Mercy :) Proclaiming the Truth In Love!!! |
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