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101 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 19986 | ||
Clarification .................................. Dear Steve, Thanks for joining the discussion. I'm interested in how this idea impacts your interpretation of the Genesis Creation. I am under the impression that you view it to be a relatively figurative explanation of how God created the universe and humanity. However, in this post you mention that you agree with the idea that a passage should be taken literally unless contradicted by another scripture. This raises the obvious question, do you know of any scripture that contradicts a literal translation of the Genesis Creation as being an accurate, historical account? |
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102 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 19999 | ||
Clarification ................................. Dear Tim, I can see your point. Do you know of any scripture passages that directly state that sin does not originate in a part of the body? The closest thing that I could come up with was the one about things going in the mouth not making one unclean, but that's not quite the same thing. |
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103 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20000 | ||
Apology ....................................... Dear Steve, I am sorry for the confusion. I did indeed confuse you with the Steve other than yourself and Searcher56. I am having a hard time keeping up with all you Steve's :) |
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104 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20001 | ||
Contrary View, Scripture........................ Dear Hank, I don't know of any universally accepted way of determining biblical literalism and biblical symbolism either. That is the very reason why I am trying to come up with one here on the forum. As for the rest of your ideas about being objective when reading scripture, letting the Holy Spirit guide you, and just looking for the plain sense, I agree in one sense. Those all sound like great ideas, and if we all did them perfectly then there would be no problems. However, they are very subjective, and the simple truth is that we don't do them perfectly, and probably never will. Therefore, in a community there needs to be some kind of established principles that are objective and can be applied consistently. That is all we are trying to accomplish here. To look at the specific example that you cited, I believe it could be dealt with, within our current framework. Jesus said He was bread, a door, and a vine. But another scripture says that Jesus became a human (Phil 2:7). Therefore, based purely on scripture, we are forced to determine which is figurative and which is literal. Then of course it is obvious based on the vast amount of scriptures referring to Jesus that He was definately a human and not a slice of bread. The process seems to work here. |
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105 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20002 | ||
Clarification ................................... Dear Hank, It seems here that you are making a "slippery slope" argument. By saying that we should cut off hands, then next we'll say cut off arms, and then heads, etc. The problem is that the verse does not say to do these other things. It's when we interpret verses to be figurative that we most often expand their meanings. On the other hand, I completely agree with you that we need to see the overall point of what Jesus was saying. Whether the passage is literal or figurative, it definately shows the importance of living holy lives and the graveness of sin. |
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106 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20005 | ||
Clarification ................................. Dear Tim, So it seems that our process would work in this case as well. We can see too scripture passages that appear to contradict if both taken literally. One implies that the hand can cause sin, and the other says that sin comes from inside the heart of a person. Based on this we can say that one must be figurative based on an objective process instead of just because the first passage appears (subjectively) to be hyperbolic language. So far, so good. |
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107 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20060 | ||
Support ......................................... Dear Hank, You write, "To address a passage as literal when the meaning clearly is not literal is to miss the point entirely." I completely agree. And that is exactly why we need a consistent way to tell the difference. |
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108 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20061 | ||
Clarification ................................ Dear Charis, Thank you for joining the discussion. I value your input on this. I agree with you that the fractured nature of the Church into denominations is detrimental to our witness to the world. In fact, it is becuase of this that I seek to increase the unity of the Church (and even this Forum). That is one reason why I have suggested several improvements, and support this idea of EdB's. It seems to me that if we had a general guideline that it would help direct several different common thread ideas. For example in the American justice system, a person is "innocent until proven guilty". We could similarly have a guideline that said that the Bible was "literal until proven figurative by another scripture". That way if a person makes a post that says that the Genesis Creation is figurative, the burden of proof would be on that person to point out another scripture passage that contradicts a literal interpretation of it. Or if a person says that a specific number in the Bible is figurative and symbolizes something else, then the burden of proof is on that person to point out another scripture which contradicts it just meaning a literal number. As you can imagine, this could be helpful quite often on this forum. It would help to give direction to threads and keep everything firmly grounded in scripture. |
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109 | Is there a 3rd option to Calvin/Arminian | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20105 | ||
Is there a third possibility in the Calvinism/Arminianism discussion? Could it be that neither one is entirely correct and that it is wrong for the Church to be divided because of them? If one gets past the initial disagreements on general issues, does it really lead to significant differences in application? Or do an Arminian like Tim Moran and a Calvinist like Reformer Joe have significantly different relationships with God as a result of their beliefs on this subject? If the answers are no, then possibly these discussions are really not that important. If the answers are yes, then what are these significant differences? |
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110 | Is there a 3rd option to Calvin/Arminian | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20106 | ||
This tread could be deleted ..................... I meant for this to be a question, however, Tim Moran posed the same question at the same time. Therefore, I encourage everyone to answer his question and not duplicate things by responding here. |
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111 | Genesis Creation, a practical example? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20197 | ||
Support ......................................... Dear Charis, Thanks for your continued input on this subject. I appreciate that you also agree with the "literal until proven figurative by another scripture" guidline. It seems like this may end up being part of the consensus of this thread. At the same time, I understand your researvation about it only taking "a few unruly persons to bring out the worst in us". However, I would disagree with your implication that this is inevitable. "It takes two to tango", as the expression goes. Therefore, if one person posts in a manner that is not constructive, we are still responsible for our choice of how to respond. There have been times when there have been some pretty negative posts directed towards me. But thus far, I believe and hope that I have always responded with self-control and wisdom (to go along with my user id). If I can do it, then I'm sure that it can be done by anyone. |
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112 | Is there any practical difference? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20204 | ||
Questions Answered .............................. Dear Forumites, I will try to help this discussion by answering the questions from one perspective so that those from the other perspective will have something to compare and contrast to. 1. My personal relationship with God? I view him as my Savior and Lord of my life. We communicate through prayer, scripture, and the words of those He has put in my life. I am confident that God has my best interest at heart. 2. How accepted by God? I feel completely accepted by God. This is not because I deserve to be, but because God relates to me through the cleansing power of Jesus sacrifice for my sins. 3. How is prayer life? My prayer life is mainly conversational during times when I am alone and quiet. However, I also sometimes participate in public prayer. I do this at church, Sunday school, and before meals. 4. How is Bible study? I most often gain insight from scripture when searching it as a result of conversations with other believers. Sometimes checking a pastors sermon, or responding to a post on this forum :) 5. How to worship God? I worship God by singing praises to Him, praying to Him, and trying to live a life that is pleasing to Him. 6. How do I share the gospel with others? I try to live as a good example of Christ around them. I also at times will talk with them about how Christ has made a difference in my life. I also participate in evangelistic activities with my church in order to show God's love to the Lost. There are several more questions, but I'll answer those in the next post. What are your thoughts so far. Does anything stick out as being specifically different? |
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113 | Is there any practical difference? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20205 | ||
Questions Answered, Part 2 ...................... Dear Forumites, Here's the rest of my answers. 7. What efforts to disciple? I have a leadership role in my church's ministry to college students. I think that more people leave the Church and Christianity at this period of life than any other. Thus I feel this is a critical time for me to try to make a difference in their lives, with God's help. I also less formally am often consulted by my friends on spiritual issues and life decisions. Therefore, I also use that as an opportunity to disciple. 8. What fellowship with other believers? I am actively involved in my local church, and besides services, also regularly attend fellowship opportunities. These are with many groups including my Sunday school class, our church leadership team, small groups at times, and just having a meal with another family. 9. What involvement in church? I lead Sunday school, attend morning service, assist with Children's church 2nd service, attend evening service, occasionally serve as an usher, and often participate in sharing testimonies at a service. I also participate in discussion during congregational meetings about the church's plans for the future. 10. What involvement in missions? I pray for many friends who are missionaries around the world. I support many of them financially both personally and through my local church, which has a significant percentage of the annual budget designated for missions. I also strive to be a missionary to non-Christians around me in my own life. 11. What manifestations of the Spirit? I do not think that I have ever exhibited those that I know of. I have not spoken in toungues, prophecied, or been "slain". 12. What Fruit of the Spirit? I consistently express many fruit of the Spirit, including: love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, and self-control. I sometimes exhibit patience and gentleness. So that answers all the questions from one perspective of the C and A debate. Are there significant differences in the lives of anyone on the other side of the issue. |
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114 | Is there any practical difference? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20227 | ||
Clarification ................................... Dear Steve, I had never heard of an "Amyraldian" before, however, I just finished reading about it at the following webpage. http://members.aol.com/briangord/amyrad.htm I thought it was very informative. It sounds like the basic idea is that Arminias was theoretically right and Calvin was practically right. It gave the quote that "Christ died sufficiently for all but efficiently only for the elect." Does this website present an accurate perception of your beliefs? |
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115 | Sir Pent, are you C or A? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20228 | ||
Question Answered .............................. Dear Bill Mc, You caught me :) I actually left off my particular leaning on purpose to see whether my responses indicated one way or the other to people. This was another way to tell if it really made any difference to the Christian life. However, since you asked me specifically, I'm glad to let you know. I consider myself to be a Wesleyan, Arminian, Holiness Christian. I would point out that that description is in the order importance that I would rank those from least to most. |
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116 | What is a good bible version for study? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20243 | ||
Please do a search ............................. Dear Myra, I am excited for you that you are beginning to study the Bible and fellowship with other Christians again. God has so many important things that He is looking forward to sharing with you if you let Him. The short answer to your question is that the NIV (New International Version) is a good Bible to start out with if you're looking for one that is accurate and easy to read. If on the other hand you are looking for a Bible for deeper study, I would recommend the NAS (New American Standard). It is also not difficult to understand. Also, this question has been asked before many times. Therefore, if you would like a much longer and in depth answer, just do a search (in the top right corner) for "best translation". |
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117 | The Plan of God in an Arminian Nutshell | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20317 | ||
Contrary View, Scripture ........................ Dear Dan K, You do bring up a good example of where God went to extraordinary means (swallowing a person with a fish) to change Jonah's will to match God's plan. However, this type of action by God is the exception not the rule. In the garden of Eden, it was God's plan for Adam and Eve to not eat the fruit. God did not make the fruit look disgusting so that they would not "want" to eat it. Instead it looked good. Throughout scripture the vast majority of the times that humans went against the will of God, He did not stop them or change their minds. Another example would be when Israel desired a king. That was against God's plan, and God even told them that through his prophet Sammuel. However, God did not change their minds, but allowed them to freely choose the wrong thing. |
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118 | Is there any practical difference? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20324 | ||
Contrary View .................................. Dear Joe, Let me just examine your answer to question 4 since you said that is the most significant practical difference between C and A perspecitves. You "see the decretive will of God in all things." I think that Arminians would also see the general plan of God being revealed throughout all of scripture. You see "all of the Biblical narrative as HIS story." I think that Arminians would also agree that the Bible is God's Word, not ours. They would also describe the Bible as being God's written account of His relationship to mankind in the past and His desired relationship with mankind in the present. They would agree the God is the main character of the Bible. You read the Bible believing God "will glorify HIMSELF through redeeming the elect." Arminians also read the Bible believing that God glorifies Himself through His redemption plan. They would just say that the plan includes more people. You see "all things in the Bible working for the chief end of glorifying God above all." Arminians would also agree that the purpose of everything in the universe (including everything in the Bible) is to glorify God. It is interesting that on this "most significant" difference between the C and A camps, I don't really see much disagreement at all. |
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119 | Amyraldianism, a 3rd choice or not? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20325 | ||
I have recently been introduced to a new perspective regarding salvation and free will. It is called the "Amyraldian" perspective, and a good description of it can be found at http://members.aol.com/briangord/amyrad.htm It sounds like the basic idea is that Arminias was theoretically right and Calvin was practically right. A summary quote would be that "Christ died sufficiently for all but efficiently only for the elect." My question is how is this possible? The word "sufficient" means "enough to meet the needs". Therefore, if Christ's sacrifice was enough to meet the needs of sinners to gain salvation, then nothing more could be required. Conversely, if salvation requires both Christ's sacrifice AND being elected, then the sacrifice alone is not sufficient. It seems that this belief has an inherrant contradiction within itself. Does anyone have any ideas on this? |
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120 | What does Son of Man mean? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 20330 | ||
Please do a search ................... Dear vkey, A very good answer to this question has already been given. Please use the search box (top right corner) and type in "Son of Man Moran". This will bring up several posts, and the answer is dated: Thu 08/16/01. |
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