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101 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205236 | ||
My apologies Brad I sent you a message meant for chessshores by accident, please forvgive me. Tamara |
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102 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205235 | ||
Dear chessshores, This is another Word of Faith teaching that has absolutely no basis in scripture at all. Joyce Meyers and Benny Hinn and other Word of Faith teachers like T.D. Jakes and Paula White use this phrase all the time, but you won't be able to find it in the scripture because it is not there. This is another example of the Word of Faith teachers and preachers taking scripture and twisting it to mean what they say it means taking it out of context away from the author's original intent. Here is an example of how Joyce Meyers and Paula White, for example twist the scriptures to say what they want them to say. They start out with one verse and then misapply it to a next verse making a connection that does not exist. Here is an example; Ephesians 2:12,13 remember that your were at that time separate from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. This is the first thing they try to establish; that we were once strangers to the covenants of promise, but now by the blood of Jesus we have access to the covenants. This is where they start off, with the truth, but then they veer off from where they start and take another scripture that is about covenantal promises made to specific situations and specific groups of people and mis-apply them for today by reinterpreting them to fit their twisted theology. Here is what I mean; Numbers 25:12 Therefore say, 'Behold, I give My covenant of peace; and it shall be for him and his descendants after him a covenant of a perpetual priesthood, because he was jealous for his God and made atonement for the sons of Israel.' The second thing these Word of Faith preachers try to establish is that once a person has been granted access to the covenants of promise that they can access all of the OT convenants. covenants that are not about the covenant of Abraham about faith, but all the other covenants given to Moses, to Noah and the smaller covenants given to individuals, as the covenants given to Israel and persons in Israel. This is a specific covenant promised to a specific person, Phinehas the son of Eleazar, made by God, and it does not apply to all peoples at all times that they shall receive this specfic peace offered to one priest who made atonement for the sins of Israel. more to come, Tamara |
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103 | Is God opens doors no man closes in bibl | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205234 | ||
continuation, Tamara After they establish that belivers by the blood have access to all covenants from the OT they seek to establish that all believers because they are priests can have the promise granted to Phinehas. I Peter 2:5 You also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. While it is true that we are all priests in the priesthood of Christ, and while it is true that we have access to the covenantal promises of faith, and while it is true that believers are granted peace between themselves and God, these Word of Faith preachers take it all a step beyond this. They tie in having access to the convenant of faith by the blood, being in the priesthood and being granted peace between us and God with the concept that believers are to take the covenant granted to Phinehas and speak it out loud in order to release the power of God to speak peace to your ruined health, ruined life, ruined ministry, ruined finances telling you that God will speak peace to your situation if you speak out loud the promises of God and allow God to move on your behalf. The covenant of peace between God and Phinehas was specifically about the other covenant of a perpetual priesthood granted to Phinehas and his descendants and was not about a ruined life, or a ruined health, or ruined finances, or a ruined ministry, it was about God granting peace instead of desctruction and about granting one man and his family a perpetual priesthood and does not apply to other situations or people at all. It is true that God can and will fix ruined things, but not by appropriating the covenant of peace and a priesthood granted only to Phineahas... The next things these Word of Faith preachers say after finishing their excited and flambouyant presentation of this wild illustration is, "God opens doors that no man can close, by His Holy will and sovereign power, He will release the convenants and promises of God into your life by the power of the blood of Jesus Christ by the level of your faith!" This twisting scriptures to fit their twisted theology that your lips as a priest will open up and appropriate any old promise or covenant of God and that by the power of your faith God will act on your behalf and fix any old thing because you are under the blood and God loves His children and has given them many many promises and covenants that apply to them and belong to God. Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, Paula White, Joyce Meyers, Peter Popoff, and on and on they are all getting rich and powerfull because people love to hear false teaching that tells them how to get things and fix things and how to have a better life with much less suffering. And it is all false doctrine every bit of it, from the fake healings to the healings by the power of the devil, to the healing oil of the devil, to the green prayer clothes of the evil one, to the fake manna to heal you by the power of the devil, the fake no evil oil, the instantaneous dental work by the power of the devil, the prophecies by the power of Satan about peoples personal doctor's name and diagnoses of illnes without prior knowledge, it is all the work of the devil - here is why, they are doing all these so called Charismatic gifts while preaching a myriad of false doctrines to support what they are doing, and if they are preaching false doctrine and then performing many miracles that are real, then their power is from the devil himself, by their fruits you shall know them, but first check the doctrine, if it is false then so are the miracles a product, although they may be real of the devil and not God. I want you to really start listening to what they are preaching, all these people that you so admire in minstry and start to ask questions in here about what you are hearing and seeing and start getting some real sound doctrine so you can see what is the truth. You are being deceived my dear and it shows, I say this in love for the sake of your soul to pull you back from the brink of spiritual destruction. Learn the truth and keep it. Test every word you hear against the Bible, if you can't find it, I bet you are a fine Bible student, it probably is not there at all, but is a false teaching. God's day to you, Tamara |
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104 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205213 | ||
Dear Jim, Please see my reply to Pastor Moran. God Bless you, Tam |
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105 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205212 | ||
Dear Jeff, Please see my reply to Pastor Moran. God Bless you, Tam |
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106 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205210 | ||
Dear Val, Please see my answer to Pastor Moran. God Bless you, Tam |
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107 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205209 | ||
continuation, Tamara There are, however, some minor copyist errors in the biblical manuscripts - two examples will suffice: Second Chronicles 22:2 says Ahaziah was forty-two, yet 2 Kings asserts that Ahaziah was twenty-two. He could not have been forty-two (a copyist error), or he would have been older than his father (see NIV and NKJV). Also 2 Chronicles 9:25 affirms that Solomon had four thousand horse stalls, but 1 Kings 4:26 says there were forty thousand horse stalls, which would have been far more than needed for the twelve thousand horsemen he had (see NIV and NKJV). It is important to note of these copyist errors that: 1)No original manuscript has ever been found with an error in it. 2)Errors are relatively rare in their copies. 3)In most cases we know which wording is wrong from the context or parallel passages. 4)In no case does an error effect any doctrine of scipture. 5)Errors vouch for the accuracy of the copying process, since the scribes who copied them knew there were errors in the manuscripts were duty-bound to copy what the text before them said. 6)Errors don't effect the central message of the Bible. Quote, Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 494, par.2); SOME IMPORTANT DEFINITIONS The terms inspiration, infallibility, and inerrancy are all related. Inspired means, "breathed out by God", "what comes from God Himself" (see 2 Tim. 3:16-17). Infallibility means, "what has divine authority", "what cannot be broken" (John 10:34-35). Inerrancy means, "what is without error," "wholly true". What is inspired is infallible, since inspired means to be breathed out by God, and what is God-breathed cannot be in error. Likewise, what is infallible, since it has divine authority, must also be inerrant - a divinely authoritative error is a condtradiction in terms. However, not everything inerrant is divinely authoritative. A phone book could be without error, but it would not thereby have divine authority. Hence,inerrancy is implied in a proper understanding of infallibility, but infallibility does not follow from inerrancy. Quote, Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg.507, par.3,4; THE OBJECTION THAT INERRANCY IS CONTRARY TO FACT Finally, some insist that the doctrine of inerrancy is contrary to fact - that there are demonstrable errors in the Bible. This view, however, makes errors of its own. The fact is that no one has ever demonstrated that there is an error in the original text of the Bible; rather, those who allge errors in the Bible have been found in error. Here is a list of the errors of those who claimn to find errors in the Bible (Geisler and HOwe, WCA, chapter 1). Quote, Systematice Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg.511, par.1; Mistake 15: Forgetting That Only the Original Text, Not Every Copy of Scripture, Is Without Error When critics do come upon a genuined error in a biblical manuscript copy, they make another mistake - they assume it was in the original inspired text of Scripture. They forget that God uttered only the original text of Scripture, not the imperfect copies. Inspiration does not guarantee that every copy of the original is without error, and therefore, we are to expect minor errors will be found in manuscript copies. When we run into a so-called "error" in the Bible, we must assume one of two things: either the manuscript was not copied correctly, or we have not understood it rightly. What we may not assume is that God made an error in inspiring the original text. Several things should be observed about these copyist errors. First, they are errors in copies, not the originals. No one has ever found an oringal manuscript with an error in it. Second, they are minor errors (often in names or numbers) that do not affect the doctrine of the Christian faith. Third, these copyist errors are relatively few in number. Fourth, usually by the context, or by another Scripture, we know which one is in error. In conclusion I never purported that the text were in contradiction to one another, but that there was an apparent and obvious discrepancy as to a difinitve time frame of an event as being recorded differenty from one author to another, which it undeniably was, as being the same in substance while having a discrepancy in time frame. We see according to the quotes I included that it is quite possible for there to be real copyist errors while maintaining without a shadow of a doubt that the Bible is the infallible, inspired, inerrant word of God. By His Grace, Tamara |
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108 | Spices and the Sabbath | Luke 1:2 | Tamara Brewington | 205207 | ||
Dear Tim, I did not say contradictory, as in 'Not A', 'Not B', here is what I said in light of the fact that Mark and Luke differed as to whether the spices were prepared before the Sabbath day, or on the Sabbath, which was the original question, and which is not a contradiction, but is a discrepancy a true undenialable discrepancy that cannot as a detail about the act occuring on two different days be reconciled, but can in substance be reconciled; The accounts cannot be reconciled in their particulars but can in their substance and that is how you reconcile an account like this one. The Bible is indeed the innerrant word of God and contains some discrepancies at points, but not at any major points and not doctrinally ever. Quote; Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 252, par. 2 - AVOIDING TWO EXTREMES Two extremes are to be avoided when describing the Bible: Either denying of diminishing its devine characteristics while affirming its human traits, or else affirming its divine properties while denying or diminishiing its human elements. Most liberals do the former (see DeWof, CTLP, 58-66) and many fundamentalists fall into the latter (Rice, OGBBB, 265-285-87). These two errors are the bibliological equivalents of arianism and docetism, respectively (see F.L. Cross, ODCC, 87, 413). Quote Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 257, par. 3-5); THE BIBLE IS WITHOUT ERROR There is one human characteristic of the Bible does not have: errors. Although a more extended discussion of the innerrancy of the Bible is found later (see chapter 27), the basic outline of its errorlessness will be stated here. The Original Text Is Without Error The logic of inerrancy is straight forward: 1)God cannot err. 2)The Bible is God's Word. 3)Therefore, the Bible cannot err. Since Scriptures are breathed out by God (2 Tim. 3:16-170, and since God cannot breathe out falsehood, if follows that the Bible cannot contain any falsehood. The Copies Are Not Without Error Christians only claim that God breathed out everythign in the original text, not everything in the copies. Divine inspiration and innerrancy, therefore, applies to the original text, not to every detail of every copy. The copies are without error only insofar as they are copied correctly, and they were copied with great care and a very high degree of accruracy. Christians believe that God in His providence preserved the copies from all substatial error; in fact, the degree of accuracy is greater than that of Quote, Systematic Theology, Norman D. Geisler, pg. 258, par. 3-4); any other book from the ancient world, exceeding 99 percent (see Geisler and Nix, GIB, chapter 22). The reasons for this amazing accuracy are: (1) we have many more manuscripts of the Bible than any other books form the ancient world, (2) the manuscripts date more closely to the originals, and (3) they were copied accurately. more to come, Tamara |
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109 | kiv Grt Commission of JC, how we see it | OT general | Tamara Brewington | 205196 | ||
Dear chessshores, Please note that the last question of yours that I sent you a note on has been removed from the forum for reasons unknown to me. You need to be aware that the forum will quickly shut you down if you belong to a cult, or if you do not adhere to a literal intreptretation of scriptures. You wrote; Eugene Peterson, a Presbyterian scholar-Pastor who wrote a paraphrase of the Bible coined the Message and the Message Remix (as a second revised edition) seems to agree with charismatic Benny Hinn in application of this passage that even kings and rulers can become prophets. Yes King David was a king a ruler and a prophet, what has that got to do with false prophet Benny Hinn? That Bible you are referring to, the remix Bible is a paraphrase, and just like the Amplified Bible is not a literal intrepretation of the Bible and adds words to the Greek and Hebrew fundamentally changing the meanings of the texts. Though EugeneP may not be Charismatic, his writing interests Charismatics who quote him to the masses. eg Planetshakers n Hillsong Church. That the masses like him is absolutely no indication of him being accurate in his translation of the Bible, only popular to those who are seeking added meanins to the what the Bible is saying because they feel they are having trouble understanding and applying the Bible as it was intended to be understood, literally. Are you going to keep on propping up Benny Hinn the false prophet? Planetshakers n Hillsong Church is not known to be an expository Bible believing and teaching church. What point are you actually trying to make with repeated posts about Benny Hinn the false prophets and the world wide Charismatic movement? Make your intentions more clear please... God's day to you, Tamara |
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110 | How human-like is God | Exodus | Tamara Brewington | 205186 | ||
Dear chessshores, Could you please be more clear as to how God is man like and not the other way around? How is it that God is human like in any way back in Exodus in your thinking? Please expound with scriptures that highlight what you are seeing there... God's day to you, Tamara |
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111 | Make a Decision | Rev 3:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205164 | ||
Dear Hoppy I am sure John will get to you in due time... In the mean time, the passage says up in verse 18 that the discourse was about the church at Thyatira... The message about Jezebel was to the entire church at Thyatira and was about a woman named Jezebel in the church who was calling herself a prophetess in that church. She was teaching a false gospel and leading the church members astray and leading them to commit sexual sins and to eat foods sacrificed to idols. These were both part of pagan idol worship practices, to have open sexual encouters of fornication or adultery and to eat food sacrificed to the pagan idol. You need to take the Bible and interpret it literally, it means exactly what it says, there are sometimes symbols or allegories, like when Jesus says I am the door, but this is not one of them. There was a real woman with a real name who was doig real things and the church, the whole church was to take real action, period. There is nothing that you need to reinterpret or re-apply here, it was a message to that particular church about a particulare situation in that church. God's Day to you, Tamara |
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112 | An interesting discussion/question | Romans | Tamara Brewington | 205110 | ||
last continuation, Tamara There is better evidence though that those who die do not fall asleep and then get woken up at the resurrection. Try Revelation. Revelation 6:9-11 When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, will you refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth. These are saints who have been killed for their testimony in Christ Jesus and they are awake and crying out in heaven. They have not yet been resurrected from death, they are dead and they are in heaven. Their blood was shed on the earth and they are crying out for justice, imprecating the Lord. Revelation 7:9-11,13,14 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb." Then one of the elders answered me, saying to me, 'These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where do they come from?" I said to him, "My lord, you know." He said to me, 'These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb." A literal intrepretation of the Bible shows without deviance that soul sleep is a twisting of scriptures by taking them out of their proper context in order to fit a false doctrine. False doctrine comes from improper interpretation of scripture every time. This is why the exegesis must drive the theology every single time and why theology prevents a misinterpretation of scripture. This issue has been hashed about for two days now to the tune of over 25 eamils by Doc's last count. You never emailed me and you may have been busy and you don't have to email me. But you were not too busy to keep on posting refutation after refutation to the evidence presented to you over and over. You have me wondering, although not accusing you, what your intention was in saying that to avoid debate you were going to let me have the last post, but then you answered everyone else over and over? I want you to think about what basis you have to continue to believe in soul sleep after this final presentation of the evidence to the contrary to you. By His Grace, Tamara |
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113 | An interesting discussion/question | Romans | Tamara Brewington | 205109 | ||
2nd continuation, Tamara Who was the first man to go to heaven? Jesus. When did he go? John 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'" Acts 1:3,10 To these present He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God. And as they were gazing intently into the sky while He was going, behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them. They also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who was been taken, will come up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him to into heaven." Jesus never ascended up to heaven until 40 days passed after He rose on the third day. Jesus was the first man to go to heaven When did the inhabitants of the Paradise compartment of Hades who are all the OT saints and all the saints who believed in Jesus and died before He did, and the criminal, go to heaven? Ephesians 4:8 Therefore it says, "When He ascended on high; He led captive a host of captives, and He gave gifts to men." This is a quote from Psalm 68:18 The rest of the verse goes Even among the rebellious also, that the Lord God may dwell there. The context is about unity in the Spirit in the baptism of Jesus, and the gifts according to the measure of Christ's gift. Verse 8 is about the gifts in the body according to the measure of Christ's gift. But, now what is the measure of Christ's gift? The measure of Christ's gift is what He has accomplished by entering the holy of holies, Therefore it says, "When He ascended on high". "He led captive His captives.", all those in that compartment of Hades where the OT saints were, where the criminal was, where everyone who was a saint who died while Jesus was a live, was led out of that compartment and Jesus paraded them to the whole universe and showed off His captives to the host of heaven while He led them to heaven, having made a way into the veil, into the holy of holies. Hebrews 9:11,12 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation; and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. When Jesus ascended on high leading captive His captives He led them into the holy of holies having obtained the redemption of thier souls. It was not until Jesus ascended to heaven that heaven became open to men, being separated from God by a wall of sin, they were ushered right into the presence of the holy Father God by the blood of Jesus Christ. This is why Paul was then able to say; II Corinthians 5:8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be home with the Lord. Jesus opened up the door to heaven and Paul was talking about going in and being present with Jesus. Paul is not talking about a gap of time either, he is talking about right away. Philippians 1:23 But I am hard pressed from both directions, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better. Paul was desring to depart and go straight to Jesus. more to come, Tamara |
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114 | An interesting discussion/question | Romans | Tamara Brewington | 205108 | ||
continuation, Tamara Luke 16:19-26 the story of the beggar Lazarus and the rich sinner who ignored him, passing him by as he sat begging for food at the rich sinners gate. :22 Now the poor man died and was carried away to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man aslo died and was buried. In hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom First point; they both died and were both wide awake, having never fallen asleep accourding to Jesus. Second point; Jesus as God knew better than Solomon in all his wisdom and Job in his misery what actually occurs after death. This is a progression of revelation about death and what happens to one in the Bible, that is if we are going to say that both Solomon and Job had as their intent to say something about the state of folks in death... So of you are going to say that Solomon and Job are really saying something about the state of death, you have to recognize that Jesus as God, who has more authority than they do, is now revealing more about the state of death as progressive revelation. Luke 16:24,25 And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in the water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame'. But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus did bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony'. According to Jesus as God, the rich man was awake and suffering in the torment of flames and was thirsty for even a drop of water. According to Jesus as God, Abraham was awake and answering the rich man's request with a proclaimation of judgment. Luke 16: And besides all this, between us there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us. According to Jesus both dead men were in one single place, Hades (verse 23), with two compartments, one was hell the other had to be a type of paradise, separated by an uncrossable chasm. This has to be true because Jesus says in John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven; but He who descended from Heaven; the Son of Man. More about this later, it is important in determing the progression of what Jesus revealed about death in the NT. Luke 23:40,42,43 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?" And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in your kingdom!" And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in paradise." The context of this passage in light of subsequent passages drives the meaning in this passage because Jesus was in the grave for three days and did not go up to Paradise until He ascended more than some 40 days later. The context of the passage is that Jesus is being crucified and is on His way to His kingdom in that act. Jesus is about to die and enter into the process of entering His kingdom, the veil of the temple is about to split in two, indicating that Jesus has made a way through to the holy of holies by His death, has entered into His kingdom. When Jesus says, today you shall be with Me in Paradise He is not talking about time, He is talking today He is about to die and go about entering His kingdom and usher the way clear into Paradise for the criminal. We have to look to the reason why Jesus was saying what He was saying to see the true context of those verses. more to come, Tamara |
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115 | An interesting discussion/question | Romans | Tamara Brewington | 205107 | ||
Dear Jamison, I was under the impression that you wanted to stop posting and go off the forum and discuss this without going any further. I must be mistaken somehow in what your intention was concerning your intention to avoid a debate. I looked at your five scriptures and found that only two of them are about your view, the rest don't fit. Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 For the living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything, nor have they any longer a reward, for their memory is forgotten. Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol where you are going. Here in both verses Solomon makes a contrast between the dead and the living about what they will know about the activities of life. The emphasis here is not on the dead not being aware, it is on the dead no longer having any cognizance of the affairs of life. The affairs of life a running theme through out Ecclesiastes and Solomon is making a point about the vanity of death as being without the same quality as life. And that is the context of this passage, not soul sleep, to say otherwise is to divorce an intrepretation from the author's intent in writting is constrained to the contrast between the quality of life with the vanity of death. Job 14:10-12 But man dies and lies prostrate. Man expires, and where is he? A water evaporates from the sea, and a river becomes parched and dried up, so man lies down and does not rise. Until the heavens are no longer, He will not awake nor be aroused out of his sleep. The context of this exerpt from Job 14 is that back up in verse 1 Job speaks of the futility of life. :1 Man, who is born of woman, is short lived and full of turmoil. Like a flower that withers. He also flees like a shadow and does not remain. That first verse is the whole theme for the entire 14th chapter of Job, everthing else is related to and comes out of that verse. Verses 10 through 12 are talking about the futility of life because it ends in death and the dead no longer are roused from the grave and to live. The author's intent in writting about death is constrained to the futility of life because it ends in death, and is not about soul sleep. more to come, Tamara |
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116 | Does God want us to belong to one church | Bible general Archive 4 | Tamara Brewington | 205074 | ||
Dear Jeff, Am I to understand that you mean for this woman to wear a hat if her husband is saved, but not if he isn't? Or that she should simply wear a hat because she is a married woman? You have me very curious as to what you are saying here. Note to forum members; this is not an attempt to bring up the hat issue agains as if it had not been discussed, but is an attempt to udnerstand Jeff's position on the scripture he gave as advice to Sissy. God's day to you Jeff, Tamara the hat lady |
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117 | Does God want us to belong to one church | Bible general Archive 4 | Tamara Brewington | 205067 | ||
Dear Lionheart, Hebrews 10:25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. Of course this doesn't say that you have to remain in the same church, but it does say we should not forsake fellow shipping together. Of course there are those who do not believe this is true, like Harold Camping, who believes the age of the chruch is over and that you would be better off in a whore house (his words, not mine). However, if we were to take the first century church as our model, then it would seem that folks belonged to particular gatherings, house churches, met regulary, had names of churches they belonged to and so forth. I would take that as my model, that it is a good thing to be in one congregation after a careful search and remain there. The reason is, you will experience the dification and reciprocate it to your brethren of the body of Christ over a prolonged period of time and that is essential to your growth as a Christian. If you dont' belong to a particular church, and you are going about from church to church you may become like a waterless cloud, lacking sound foundations for lack of a consistent diet on consistent doctrine and consistent relationships where you will be required to engage in the working out of your salvation. Fellow ship in one congregation is essential to the full Christian expereience in my experience. I was in a church for 6 years and then left out to go see about other churches and church hopped for 4 years because I was having trouble with my family in church. I left a good church and was never satisfied with the doctrinal teaching I exposed myself to and went back despite family problems and will never be leaving again, it has been 4 years since I went back to my church home. There is one other very good reason not to go floating around as a husband and wife, or even as a single believer, accountability to the body of Christ to follow Christ. When you as husband and wife, or even as a single person stay in one place you are accountable for your actions as a Christian to the body of Christ and not just to Christ. God's Day to you, Tamara |
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118 | An interesting discussion/question | Romans | Tamara Brewington | 205008 | ||
Dear Jamison, I don't want the last word. Let's discuss this further off forum to avoid engendering a debate or digressing into a debate amongst all the forum members and you. I do not say this as a pointed comment towards you or forum members at all. And you did not ramble at all, you were being crystal clear about your view. Never feel shy about expressing what you truly believe in detail, it helps to make clear where you are coming from. We will not be debatting this issue at all, we will be discussing it at some length privately so that we can study it until we have exhasted the subject and got at the truth together. As long as we both stick to what we believe is the literal interpretation of the Bible, there will not be a real problem between us. But if there occurs allegorizing scriptures or symbolizing them, then there will most definitely be a problem between us. I do agree with Doc that theology is not based on speculation, and that doctrine is central here, very central, because depending on what you believe about Christ you will either go to heaven, or you will not. I also agree with Doc that a viable theology does not come about before having examined all the evidence, it comes after and is not the cause of misinterpreting scripture, but the preventing of misinterpreting scripture. And as far as soul sleep, that doctrine will not keep you out of heaven, but it did indeed has it's roots in false theologies of churches that carry a false doctrine of who Christ is, what He accomplished, and how redemption from original sin through to the resurrection works, of which soul sleep is a part. By His Grace, Tamara |
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119 | A Paster with GUTS! | Is 5:20 | Tamara Brewington | 205006 | ||
Ah John, What an example you are to me, you never cease to be edifying! I am working on this part of my walk, no matter what I say or do to be humble, be full of love and to edify in all that I do and say... As you can see of late, I have been stumbling around a bit or so. Scripture; I Timothy 5:11 Therefore encourage on another and build up one another, just as you are also doing. By His Grace, Tamara |
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120 | Purpose of the parables? | Matt 13:1 | Tamara Brewington | 205004 | ||
Dear Lookinforacity, Jesus had reasons that I could tell to preach the parables, but I am not too sure that He was preaching the kingdom. I think when He preached the Sermon on the Mount He was preaching the kingdom, but when He preached the parables there was something esle going on. Mathew 13:10 And the disciples came and said to Him, "why do you speak to them in parables?" :11 Jesus answered them, "to you it has been granted to know the mysteries fo the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. :13 Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. See Mathew 13:14-17 Jesus was revealing the the mysteries of the kingdom to the disciples and to hide the truth from unbelievers. I agree with what you said about unbelief. Not many churches are preaching the kingdom because the apostles switched up and began preaching the crucifixion instead, which is the same thing. Christ revealed Himself in a lasting and final way after the crucifixion, where as before the crucufixion the only thing to be preaching about was the kingdom is at hand and repent. I don't know what you think? God's day to you, Tamara |
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