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1 | Sovereignty and Free-Will | Not Specified | JRdoc | 61188 | ||
It was stated thus, "I would appreciate it if the resident Calvinists on the forum could either explain why the Arminian perspective decreases the sovereignty of God, or admit that the Arminian perspective of God's sovereignty is not necessarily less than that of the Calvinists." Arminianism makes man God. It makes God and puppet in the hands of ma's so-called free will. It is a evil of all evils. Calvinism looks at God's sovereignty as Holy and for His glory. So how do sovereignty and free-will relate: Here is a quote from A Layman's Systematic Theology, by Dr. Joseph R. Nally, copyright 2002: When a man chooses to sin he chooses to do it by his own will. When a man does not choose Christ he does so by his own will. When a man chooses salvation he chooses to do so by his own will. Man does have a will in both cases, but it is not “as free” as the Arminians like to preach it. A man is in a box. The box is completely enclosed. The box has no light in it. The box is sound proof. The box has no windows or doors. This man lives in “his” box. The man lives in total darkness. Nothing from the outside get in. Nothing inside gets out. Now in this box this man makes all his own decisions based on the knowledge of the things in “his” box. The man above is one who is dead in trespasses and sins (Eph 2:1). The man is blind to the things in the outside world (2 Cor 4:4). Unredeemed man loves darkness rather than light (John 1:4-9) for this is all he really knows, for this is all that is in his box. Though light appears all around his sin nature he will not comprehend it (John 1:5). As Christ demonstrated by His many healing miracles, man, because of his sin nature, is blind, deaf, crippled, speechless, diseased, and is even dead. Until God alone heals this inability of the soul of man he will remain in this condition. Man needs the Great Physician. God cannot in this be judged that He is unjust because He does not save them, for the man is free and is making his own decisions in his own box and he chooses not Christ: “He came unto his own, and his own received him not” (John 1:11). The natural man is in “his” box. Nothing comes in or goes out. His own sin has enclosed him. He is dead to all God has and makes his decision freely, based upon his own darkness, but will never freely choose Christ, for Christ is not in his box (Rom 3:11). But, God, in His sovereign grace, mercy, love, and purpose looks at the boxes of His elect from all eternity. God endures with His creatures in many things, but at a point in His sovereign timing He breaks open the box of His elect and allows His light to shine in the man’s box. The Holy Spirit has done a work in this man in the soul of his box. This man has been birthed into a new realm of understanding that he did not have before. He now sees something wonderful and irresistible in the light. Now he is irresistibly attracted to Christ. Because of this birth of grace the man is no longer blind, deaf, crippled, speechless, diseased, or even dead. He may now see the kingdom of God (for he is no longer blind), and hear the Gospel call (for he is no longer deaf), and walk to Calvary (for Calvary has already walked to him), he may now confess with his mouth the LORD Jesus (for he is no long dumb), he can now enter into the holiest of all (because he is no longer diseased), and he is now alive, (for by grace alone he has received life and is no longer dead in trespasses and sin). Light entered the box first. Now faith is in his box. Now faith enlightens and draws him. Yes, this man, as the other, is free to make a decision, but with the miracle that has just transpired his decision is now irresistibly enlightened: As the natural eyes are drawn irresistibly to the beautiful Aurora Borealis (or Northern Lights), the spiritual man is drawn irresistibly to the light of Christ (John 1:12-13, John 3:3). As the natural man’s hearing is drawn by the beautiful sounds of the breaking ocean waves, now the spiritual man irresistibly hears the spiritual waves of the Gospel call (Rom 10:9-10). As a natural bride walks down the isle to meet her beloved in holy matrimony, the spiritual bride is now drawn irresistibly towards Calvary, for see they have been engaged since before the foundations of the world (Eph 1:3-12; 5:21-33). As the natural man is drawn irresistibly to speak out loud about himself and what he owns (for he is full of pride; ), the spiritual man is drawn to speak about his Lord and what his Lord owns (for he is full of praise; Eph 1:13). As the natural diseased man is drawn to go to his physician for cure, the spiritual man sees that the Great Physician has already cured him, for he has given him the spiritual penicillin of grace and faith (Eph 2:8-10). |
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2 | is there a god | Gen 1:1 | JRdoc | 61414 | ||
Ask him what makes him believe there is no God. Answer his question with a question. Get to the root of the problem. It is easy to make a statement "like there is no God" what they can not get out of is their reasons "why." Get to the "whys" as soon as possible and uncut his unbelief with Scripture. Slowly but surely the Word of God as a sharp two-edged sword will defeat each premise and of course send you back for more Bible Study and prayer if he has any "ability" to defend his position at all. Of course God's grace is what will change his belief, not you or I. But, you are not given the privilege of the conversation with him by accident either. |
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3 | What are God's Names? | Gen 1:1 | JRdoc | 61528 | ||
• Elohim (God) • Jehovah/Yahweh (the self-existent one: I AM) • Jehovah-jireh (the Lord will provide) • Jehovah-rapha (the Lord who heals) • Jehovah-nissi (the Lord our banner) • Jehovah-Shalom (the Lord our peace) • Jehovah-ra-ah (the Lord my shepherd) • Jehovah-tsidkenu (the Lord our righteousness) • Jehovah-shammad (the Lord is present) • Jehovah-Elohim (the Lord God) • Jehovah Sabaoth (the Lord of hosts) • El Elyon (the most high God) • Adonai (our master) • El Shaddai (Almighty God, the strength giver) • El Olam (everlasting God) (1) Elohim: The plural form of EL, meaning “strong one.” It is used of false gods, but when used of the true God, it is a plural of majesty and intimates the trinity. It is especially used of God’s sovereignty, creative work, mighty work for Israel and in relation to His sovereignty (Isa. 54:5; Jer. 32:27; Gen. 1:1; Isa. 45:18; Deut. 5:23; 8:15; Ps. 68:7). Compounds of El: • El Shaddai: “God Almighty.” The derivation is uncertain. Some think it stresses God’s loving supply and comfort; others His power as the Almighty one standing on a mountain and who corrects and chastens (Gen. 17:1; 28:3; 35:11; Ex. 6:31; Ps. 91:1, 2). • El Elyon: “The Most High God.” Stresses God’s strength, sovereignty, and supremacy (Gen. 14:19; Ps. 9:2; Dan. 7:18, 22, 25). • El Olam: “The Everlasting God.” Emphasizes God’s unchangeableness and is connected with His inexhaustibleness (Gen. 16:13). (2) Yahweh (YHWH): Comes from a verb which means “to exist, be.” This, plus its usage, shows that this name stresses God as the independent and self-existent God of revelation and redemption (Gen. 4:3; Ex. 6:3 (cf. 3:14); 3:12). Compounds of Yahweh: Strictly speaking, these compounds are designations or titles which reveal additional facts about God’s character. • Yahweh Jireh (Yireh): “The Lord will provide.” Stresses God’s provision for His people (Gen. 22:14). • Yahweh Nissi: “The Lord is my Banner.” Stresses that God is our rallying point and our means of victory; the one who fights for His people (Ex. 17:15). • Yahweh Shalom: “The Lord is Peace.” Points to the Lord as the means of our peace and rest (Jud. 6:24). • Yahweh Sabbaoth: “The Lord of Hosts.” A military figure portraying the Lord as the commander of the armies of heaven (1 Sam. 1:3; 17:45). • Yahweh Maccaddeshcem: “The Lord your Sanctifier.” Portrays the Lord as our means of sanctification or as the one who sets believers apart for His purposes (Ex. 31:13). • Yahweh Ro’i: “The Lord my Shepherd.” Portrays the Lord as the Shepherd who cares for His people as a shepherd cares for the sheep of his pasture (Ps. 23:1). • Yahweh Tsidkenu: “The Lord our Righteousness.” Portrays the Lord as the means of our righteousness (Jer. 23:6). • Yahweh Shammah: “The Lord is there.” Portrays the Lord’s personal presence in the millennial kingdom (Ezek. 48:35). • Yahweh Elohim Israel: “The Lord, the God of Israel.” Identifies Yahweh as the God of Israel in contrast to the false gods of the nations (Jud. 5:3.; Isa. 17:6). (3) Adonai: Like Elohim, this too is a plural of majesty. The singular form means “master, owner.” Stresses man’s relationship to God as his master, authority, and provider (Gen. 18:2; 40:1; 1 Sam. 1:15; Ex. 21:1-6; Josh. 5:14). (4) Theos: Greek word translated “God.” Primary name for God used in the New Testament. Its use teaches: (1) He is the only true God (Matt. 23:9; Rom. 3:30); (2) He is unique (1 Tim. 1:17; John 17:3; Rev. 15:4; 16:27); (3) He is transcendent (Acts 17:24; Heb. 3:4; Rev. 10:6); (4) He is the Savior (John 3:16; 1 Tim. 1:1; 2:3; 4:10). This name is used of Christ as God in John 1:1, 18; 20:28; 1 John 5:20; Tit. 2:13; Rom. 9:5; Heb. 1:8; 2 Pet. 1:1. (5) Kurios: Greek word translated “Lord.” Stresses authority and supremacy. While it can mean sir (John 4:11), owner (Luke 19:33), master (Col. 3:22), or even refer to idols (1 Cor. 8:5) or husbands (1 Pet. 3:6), it is used mostly as the equivalent of Yahweh of the Old Testament. It too is used of Jesus Christ meaning (1) Rabbi or Sir (Matt. 8:6); (2) God or Deity (John 20:28; Acts 2:36; Rom. 10:9; Phil. 2:11). (6) Despotes: Greek word translated “Master.” Carries the idea of ownership while kurios stressed supreme authority (Luke 2:29; Acts 4:24; Rev. 6:10; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 4). (7) Father: A distinctive New Testament revelation is that through faith in Christ, God becomes our personal Father. Father is used of God in the Old Testament only 15 times while it is used of God 245 times in the New Testament. As a name of God, it stresses God’s loving care, provision, discipline, and the way we are to address God in prayer (Matt. 7:11; Jam. 1:17; Heb. 12:5-11; John 15:16; 16:23; Eph. 2:18; 3:15; 1 Thess. 3:11). http://www.bible.org/index.htm |
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4 | Exactly where was Adam's present ? | Gen 3:6 | JRdoc | 61479 | ||
Yes, at least in the general area.....theologians argue exactly how close in proximity, ("with her" is pretty clear to me though) but Eve decided that Satan was telling the truth and she had misunderstood God, but she didn’t know what she was doing. It was not overt rebellion against God, but seduction and deception to make her believe her act was the right thing to do (v. 13). The NT confirms that Eve was deceived (2 Cor. 11:3; 1 Tim. 2:14; Rev. 12:9). But Adam made a direct transgression without deception (1 Tim. 2:13-14). | ||||||
5 | Why were Adam and Eve unable to resist? | Gen 3:6 | JRdoc | 61492 | ||
The Scripture asserts that it was part of God's plan, though He did not sin in the process. Ephesians 1 is very clear on this. Christ was predestined to die before the foundation of the world. In other words God knew they were going to fall before they were formed and thus could have stopped if He had desired--He is God afterall.... For a deeper study on this you need to look up the terms "Infralapsarianism" and "Supralapsarianism" though I agree with neither, it does give some revelance to the issue. The question normally arises "why?" Very briefly Adam and Eve had a good relationship with God. They walked with Him in the Garden. They saw Him, they knew Him, but they did not "know" Him the way He was intending for them to know Him in all eternity..... They did not know the totality of His love.... No greater lover hath a man than this than that HE lay down His life .... Thus, because of Calvary (while we were "yet" sinners Christ...), now man can see this (that is His elect can see it) and one day we will be able to enjoy God's love and understand it even more fully than Adam and Eve did originally. May God Bless. |
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6 | Did Noah's son Put have any descendants? | Gen 10:6 | JRdoc | 61088 | ||
KJV Phut The third son of Ham (Gen 10:6; I Chr 1:8), “brother” of Cush, Mizraim, and Canaan. The Wycliffe Bible encyclopedia. 1975 (C. F. Pfeiffer, H. F. Vos J. Rea, Ed.). Chicago: Moody Press. |
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7 | what does the burning bush symbolize? | Exodus | JRdoc | 61083 | ||
A real bush was illumined with fire--supernatural fire. This reveals that God is transcendent. It also reveals that He revealed Himself in the bush to call Moses to the ministry He was/had appointed him to. God reveals Himself today as well to His own elect. As in salvation God initiates His relationship to His own elect first! |
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8 | Please define Jehova Nissi and Jehova Sa | Ex 17:15 | JRdoc | 61196 | ||
Jehovah-nissi Meaning: Jehovah my banner the title given by Moses to the altar which he erected on the hill on the top of which he stood with uplifted hands while Israel prevailed over their enemies the Amalekites (Ex. 17:15) Jehovah-shalom Meaning: Jehovah send peace the name which Gideon gave to the altar he erected on the spot at Ophrah where the angel appeared to him (Judg. 6:24) http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/home.html |
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9 | tearing of clothes | 2 Kin 19:1 | JRdoc | 61085 | ||
Tearing of clothes was "often" a sign of grief (2 Kings 6:30) or of sorrowful repentance (Joel 2:12-13). There are several other places as well such as 2 Sam 3:31-32, Job 1:20-22. Additionally, Acts 14:14 where their tearing of clothes was a way of showing strong aversion to blasphemy. What is the specific purpose of your study here? | ||||||
10 | angered at God?? | Jon 4:1 | JRdoc | 61226 | ||
What specific verse are you studying to say Jonah was angry at God? |
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11 | angered at God?? | Jon 4:1 | JRdoc | 61233 | ||
OK Jonah 4:1 says But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. I see him displeased (terror or distressed, sad, displeased--per Hebrew) at God, but angry (fearful, trembling, temper, anger, strong displeasure, jealous) with the situation. The verb for anger is IMPEREFCT--(It is used to describe a single as opposed to a repeated action in the past) Since this is NOT a repeated incident (note Jonah's fleeing from God in the first place--would have indicated a repeated incident and then--anger at God and thus could not be in the IMPERFECT TENSE) I believe it refers to the incident itself and not to God directly: Additionally the verse says IT - I believe referring to the situation, not a person. Jonah, because of his rejection of Gentiles and distaste for their participation in salvation, was displeased at God’s demonstration of mercy towards the Ninevites, thereby displaying the real reason for his original flight to Tarshish. Luther writes: This is, I think, a queer and odd saint who is angry because of God’s mercy for sinners, begrudging them all benefits and wishing them every evil. Luther, M. (1999, c1974). Vol. 19: Luther's works, vol. 19 : Minor Prophets II: Jonah and Habakkuk (J. J. Pelikan, H. C. Oswald H. T. Lehmann, Ed.). Luther's Works (Jon 4:1). Saint Louis: Concordia Publishing House. Displeased ... exceedingly ... very angry. A typical Hebrew parallelism, expressing the extreme reaction of Jonah to the salvation of the city of Nineveh. Pfeiffer, C. F. (1962). The Wycliffe Bible commentary : Old Testament (Jon 4:1). Chicago: Moody Press. |
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12 | Discussion Question | Matt 19:24 | JRdoc | 61499 | ||
Deb: We see both views in Scripture. Some are and will be poor giving those that are rich an opportunity to obey God's Word to give. In both instances sin may enter in. The poor can chase after riches as their "god" and the rich can worship riches as theirs. It is not sin to be either rich or poor, but it is sin to mishandle anything God gives. Some have the gift of giving, hard to fo if one does not have the riches to give. There is a man that supports my ministry who is very wealthy. His house is maybe 130,000 (which is not big or even average for our area), he has two nice vehciles, he sent his sons and daughters through college...he gives....and yet you would never know he was worth millions upon millions (unless you know his company's stock...which is still going well I may add). |
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13 | inheavenseyes, why 2300 years? | Matt 24:29 | JRdoc | 61086 | ||
It appears to me that all your answers revolve around the faulty assumption of dispensational theology? Have you ever considered the A-Mil version of the End TImes? | ||||||
14 | inheavenseyes, why 2300 years? | Matt 24:29 | JRdoc | 61118 | ||
Great! He is returning, we agree. Now to the text: “Days” is literally “evening-morning”; cf. the “vision of the evenings and mornings” in v. 26. Some interpreters understand it simply as a reference to the evening and morning sacrifices as separate offerings (cf. Ex. 29:38–42). On this basis it would represent 1150 days, but these paired sacrifices were traditionally considered a single offering. Others understand it as simply an expression for 2300 days. Since the persecutions by Antiochus IV could be linked with any one of a number of incidents beginning as early as 171 b.c. and ending with the rededication of the temple in 164 b.c., it is difficult to say which understanding of the phrase is to be preferred. The multiple of the number twenty-three may simply be symbolic for a fixed period as in extrabiblical apocalypses (cf. the “sixty-nine” [23 x 3] weeks in 9:25, 26). New Geneva study Bible. 1997, c1995 (electronic ed.) (Da 8:14). Nashville: Thomas Nelson. These are 2,300 evenings/mornings, with no “and” in between, which refers to 2,300 total units or days. Genesis 1:15 does use “and,” i.e., “Evening and morning, one day.” The period runs to about 61/3 years of sacrificing a lamb twice a day, morning and evening (Ex. 29:38,39). The prophecy was precise in identifying the time as that of Antiochus’ persecution, ca. Sept. 6, 171 b.c. to Dec. 25, 165/4 b.c. After his death, Jews celebrated the cleansing of their holy place in the Feast of Lights, or Hanukkah, in celebration of the restoration led by Judas Maccabeus. MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed.) (Da 8:14). Nashville: Word Pub. |
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15 | Sovereignty and Free-Will | John | JRdoc | 61190 | ||
It was stated thus, "I would appreciate it if the resident Calvinists on the forum could either explain why the Arminian perspective decreases the sovereignty of God, or admit that the Arminian perspective of God's sovereignty is not necessarily less than that of the Calvinists." Arminianism makes man God. It makes God and puppet in the hands of ma's so-called free will. It is a evil of all evils. Calvinism looks at God's sovereignty as Holy and for His glory. So how do sovereignty and free-will relate: Here is a quote from A Layman's Systematic Theology, by Dr. Joseph R. Nally, copyright 2002: When a man chooses to sin he chooses to do it by his own will. When a man does not choose Christ he does so by his own will. When a man chooses salvation he chooses to do so by his own will. Man does have a will in both cases, but it is not “as free” as the Arminians like to preach it. A man is in a box. The box is completely enclosed. The box has no light in it. The box is sound proof. The box has no windows or doors. This man lives in “his” box. The man lives in total darkness. Nothing from the outside get in. Nothing inside gets out. Now in this box this man makes all his own decisions based on the knowledge of the things in “his” box. The man above is one who is dead in trespasses and sins (Eph 2:1). The man is blind to the things in the outside world (2 Cor 4:4). Unredeemed man loves darkness rather than light (John 1:4-9) for this is all he really knows, for this is all that is in his box. Though light appears all around his sin nature he will not comprehend it (John 1:5). As Christ demonstrated by His many healing miracles, man, because of his sin nature, is blind, deaf, crippled, speechless, diseased, and is even dead. Until God alone heals this inability of the soul of man he will remain in this condition. Man needs the Great Physician. God cannot in this be judged that He is unjust because He does not save them, for the man is free and is making his own decisions in his own box and he chooses not Christ: “He came unto his own, and his own received him not” (John 1:11). The natural man is in “his” box. Nothing comes in or goes out. His own sin has enclosed him. He is dead to all God has and makes his decision freely, based upon his own darkness, but will never freely choose Christ, for Christ is not in his box (Rom 3:11). But, God, in His sovereign grace, mercy, love, and purpose looks at the boxes of His elect from all eternity. God endures with His creatures in many things, but at a point in His sovereign timing He breaks open the box of His elect and allows His light to shine in the man’s box. The Holy Spirit has done a work in this man in the soul of his box. This man has been birthed into a new realm of understanding that he did not have before. He now sees something wonderful and irresistible in the light. Now he is irresistibly attracted to Christ. Because of this birth of grace the man is no longer blind, deaf, crippled, speechless, diseased, or even dead. He may now see the kingdom of God (for he is no longer blind), and hear the Gospel call (for he is no longer deaf), and walk to Calvary (for Calvary has already walked to him), he may now confess with his mouth the LORD Jesus (for he is no long dumb), he can now enter into the holiest of all (because he is no longer diseased), and he is now alive, (for by grace alone he has received life and is no longer dead in trespasses and sin). Light entered the box first. Now faith is in his box. Now faith enlightens and draws him. Yes, this man, as the other, is free to make a decision, but with the miracle that has just transpired his decision is now irresistibly enlightened: As the natural eyes are drawn irresistibly to the beautiful Aurora Borealis (or Northern Lights), the spiritual man is drawn irresistibly to the light of Christ (John 1:12-13, John 3:3). As the natural man’s hearing is drawn by the beautiful sounds of the breaking ocean waves, now the spiritual man irresistibly hears the spiritual waves of the Gospel call (Rom 10:9-10). As a natural bride walks down the isle to meet her beloved in holy matrimony, the spiritual bride is now drawn irresistibly towards Calvary, for see they have been engaged since before the foundations of the world (Eph 1:3-12; 5:21-33). As the natural man is drawn irresistibly to speak out loud about himself and what he owns (for he is full of pride; ), the spiritual man is drawn to speak about his Lord and what his Lord owns (for he is full of praise; Eph 1:13). As the natural diseased man is drawn to go to his physician for cure, the spiritual man sees that the Great Physician has already cured him, for he has given him the spiritual penicillin of grace and faith (Eph 2:8-10). |
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16 | Sovereignty and Free-Will | John | JRdoc | 61218 | ||
If you look at the example already given you will see that His light does shine to all, but many are blind and can not see it (2 Cor 4:4). Do blind people see light? This is the reason you may have different responses when people hear the very same message preached (some are saved--new eyes, some are lost--dead eyes). The Scripture says he that hath ears, indicating some hath not ears (spiritual)....Christ healed some blind and thus they could now see the light (but not all without exception). To YOUR QUESTION: Do you think it is God's desire to keep some in the dark indefinitely?, Yes, I believe in election (Eph 1). P.S. A dead man (Eph 2:1) cannot see! He needs a new life (which has new spiritual eyes--John 3) Now, let me ask you a question: 1. Did Christ die for all sins of all men? 2. Did Christ die for some sins of all men? 3. Did Christ die for all sins of some men? If Christ dies for (1) "all sins of all men" then why are any lost? After-all is not "unbelief" a sin? And if He died for the sin of "unbelief" how could any be lost--but some are aren't they! If Christ died for (2) "some sins of all men" then we do not have an atonement for "all sin" without exception and all are still in sin! Thus, Christ died for (3) "all sins of some men" --His elect that some according to His purpose and plan may be saved (Eph 1, Rom 8-11). |
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17 | Sovereignty and Free-Will | John | JRdoc | 61241 | ||
YOUR PREMISE is faulty though. You state: However, it is also possible that God being sovereign and all powerful could have created beings (humans) that were actually capable of either desiring a relationship with God or not desiring it. Their nature could be partially corrupted so that they have a tendancy to choose to reject God, but still have the ability to overcome that first instinct. Then some of them would choose to love God and would deserve heaven (only by God’s grace of providing a way to salvation through Jesus). But others would choose to reject God and His salvation and would deserve Hell. Thus everyone gets what they deserve (in a greater sense). ---- We will just look at one of your phrases as the other revolve around them: Where does it say “that God being sovereign and all powerful could have created beings (humans) that were actually capable of either desiring a relationship with God or not desiring it.” Even you said could have, where is this in Scripture? What ability, capability, or desires does a dead man have? (Eph 2:1)--NONE. He is spiritual dead in trespasses and sin. The Scripture is clear “no man seeketh after God,” how many “no not one” (Rom 3:10-11). So even if you assertion is correct and one has ability, capability, or desire (which of course is not the case—John 1:13), they still would not seek after God and thus your case folds because the Scripture does not support your assumption. To assert otherwise would be to say there is some degree of righteousness in every man (something that was not corrupted), but “they are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (Rom 3:12). The quoted example (in the beginning of the post) is very clear and it does address (1) the truth of Scripture, (2) yes, it is the Calvinistic belief against Arminianism, which is not supported with proper Scriptural exegesis. Now, let me ask you a question: 1. Did Christ die for all sins of all men? 2. Did Christ die for some sins of all men? 3. Did Christ die for all sins of some men? If Christ dies for (1) "all sins of all men" then why are any lost? After-all is not "unbelief" a sin? And if He died for the sin of "unbelief" how could any be lost--but some are aren't they! If Christ died for (2) "some sins of all men" then we do not have an atonement for "all sin" without exception and all are still in sin! Thus, Christ died for (3) "all sins of some men" --His elect that some according to His purpose and plan may be saved (Eph 1, Rom 8-11). |
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18 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | JRdoc | 61256 | ||
YOU STATE: Also, it is clear that all men DO have a small amount of light. No one is in total darkness:.. John 1:9 There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. So you think just because a light shines that a blind man can see it? It does not work that way naturally or spiritually, that is why you need a Great Physician! Just because a light shines DOES NOT mean one can see it (2 Cor 4:4). Even the verses surrounding your proof text (John 1:9) are intriguing and disprove what you say: John1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not…. Notice it was not comprehended. Why, because they are blind and dead…. John 1: 11-13 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. How does one receive Christ? The Scripture itself explains: not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God—One may see and believe and enter into the Kingdom of God because of the work of God John 3, not of works lest any man should boast (Eph 2:8-10). Please note it is important to keep CONTEXT with the verses you quote for you assertions. ---- YOU SAID: God has dealt every man the measure of faith needed for a fair choice: …Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. Who is Paul writing to? The CHURCH—notice the terms --every man among YOU! -- CONTEXT, CONTEXT! You may prove any faulty argument if you remove the context of the verses citied. --- YOU SAID: Does'nt predestination make these scriptures meaningless? No, it just affirms its need! Rom 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. The word is US (toward US, for US) and not ALL. Again, CONTEXT. Rom 10:13-18 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!" However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have; "THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD." I figure you capitalized the texts you desired answered thus, When do dead men (Eph 2:1) speak, when they receive new hearts, for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh…. Yes, the Gospel and the gospel messenger is beautiful news to all those that are enabled to hear it (he that hath ears let him hear…,but not everyone has spiritual ears or else all would be saved?—see my question below for further). Does everyone who hears the gospel message get saved…NO….Who hath believed our report, no one until God puts within them His desire (how can? they are dead and need life, without the ennoblement of being born again they will never hear—Salvation is of the Lord, He is the Author and Finisher of our faith)…. Though Christ was in the world and preached to all in His day, did ALL get saved…No..only those that were ordained to eternal life believed. (Acts 13:48). So thus your voice needs to go out into all the world (you do not who is called, predestined, elected, etc), but it does not mean (1) it will be heard by all (spiritually or effectually) (2) or even comprehended it since they do not have the mind of Christ (3) but all those that are ordained to eternal life will hear in God’s time according to His plan (Eph 1) Yes, Scripture affirms the need of PREDESTINATION otherwise why would God write about it? ---- Now, let me ask you a question: This is the third time this is posted and yet no answers??? 1. Did Christ die for all sins of all men? 2. Did Christ die for some sins of all men? 3. Did Christ die for all sins of some men? If Christ dies for (1) "all sins of all men" then why are any lost? After-all is not "unbelief" a sin? And if He died for the sin of "unbelief" how could any be lost--but some are aren't they! If Christ died for (2) "some sins of all men" then we do not have an atonement for "all sin" without exception and all are still in sin! Thus, Christ died for (3) "all sins of some men" --His elect that some according to His purpose and plan may be saved (Eph 1, Rom 8-11). |
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19 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | JRdoc | 61257 | ||
Steve: Being new here I am glad to see I am not the only one who defends the doctrine of Predestination. |
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20 | Sovereignty and Free-Will | John | JRdoc | 61260 | ||
Thanks for your welcome. Glad to be here for a brief time. Yes, it ashame that theology does split the Church (but never the true Church), but that is not always bad. Great truth is commonly discovered by many during this time. The Reformation was given to us and in that I think we all rejoice...think of where we would be otherwise.... My prayer is that God will open the eyes of the blind so they may see the truth of Scripture and what it says fr itself. |
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