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1 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Not Specified | C.S.M. | 157070 | ||
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2 | PERSECUTION | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155417 | ||
Persecution and Longing to know Christ August 5, 2005 Question (short): PERSECUTION Obi1Kanobe Hi Obi... Jesus is the Lord of all the universe. If you ask him to save you, he will save you, because he never lies! Num 23:19 God is not a man that he should lie Acts 5:3 satan is the source of lies, John 8:44 I John 1:6 God is light, life John 1:4, Love I John 4:8 Lord means : supreme authority Greek concordance definition Jesus means: the savior that came to save his people from their sins Matt 1:21 Christ means: the anointed one, I John 2:27, the Son of the Living God Matt 16:16, The way, truth and life (of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) John 14:6 If we ask God, who cannot lie, to save us, then if we say he has not done what he said he would do, we are calling God a liar! Faith is: what God has said on every subject relative to the world, flesh, devil and mankinds will. So then faith comes (how?) by hearing (in your spirit), and hearing (God through and) by the word of God..(the written, Living and spoken). Ro 10:17 Faith is God’s written word, spoken word and Living Word. 1. The Bible is Gods: written word (his thoughts, words, deeds) 2. Jesus is Gods: Living Word (his supreme authority, savior, way, truth and life (-style). God’s exact image...and example to us..Heb 1:3 3. Spoken word: our agreement with God and his word on three levels spoken out our mouth. Jesus said, “by YOUR words you shall be justified and by YOUR words you shall be condemned.” Matt 12:34-37 Jesus said, each human being is responsible to God for every word we speak, and by these words we will either be free or condemned. That makes our words of primary importance when speaking to God or to mankind! Our words must be in agreement with God and His word on all three levels! When we a.s.k. God to save us, God who cannot lie, saves us. The devil will come back and whisper in your ear. You’re not saved, you can’t be saved until you stand before God. Satan knows if he can keep you out of God’s written word, you will know nothing of God’s Living Word, Jesus, and he can keep you in disagreement with God until your spirit leaves this mortal (death doomed) body and he will have you in his court. Satan is the author of death, because it is written... The last enemy (not a friend) to be destroyed is death I Cor 15:26 Jesus gave us power over all the power of the enemy Luke 10:19 Jesus identified who our real enemy is..Matt 13:39 The enemy that sowed them IS THE DEVIL... Jesus is the only one who can satisfy your longing to know him. You cannot know another person by asking someone else “about” that person. You must go to that person and get aquainted with them yourself. Then you can say, “I know in whom I have believed, and am persuaded he is able ( Greek: fit and qualified) to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.” II Tim 1:12 Let Jesus turn your knower on! Ask him, listen to his answers, he will guide you, like he guides all other people, by his word, his love, his faith, his compassion. Always in Christ: C.S.M. |
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3 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155420 | ||
General question: Difference between Flesh and Spirit, August 5, 2005 I Cor 15:39 All flesh is NOT the same flesh Ask then how many kinds are there? 1. Men 2. beasts 3. fish 4. birds 5. bodies; terresterial 6. celtial..glory; 7. of the sun 8. of the moon 9. of the stars God wants us to be able to compare, see differences, make right choices in what we experience on this earth walk we are taking. To do that he points out all flesh is not the SAME... In speaking of mankind, we know we have a natural body, made of what we call flesh. This flesh to operate has cells, bones, blood, organs, the things needed to run this flesh body. We also are a spiritual "body". I Thes 5:23 God points out there are other kinds of natural bodies and names them. God points out there are different natural glories for each. If you stop and think about what God names and how each thing works, you will discern that glory has to mean the usefulness of any given subject in this context. In another sense, from the spiritual standpoint, flesh is what Paul called it, "for I know that in me, that is, in my flesh is no good thing. (why Paul?)for TO WILL is always present with me." Ro 7:18 Here we see, self-will, is in opposition to God's will, therefore Paul called it (spiritual) flesh. The deeds (or works) of the flesh, are performed by mankinds self-will, not God's will. Gal 5:19 God's will is his written word on every subject. God's word is God's will. If that were not so, why are we reading God's word to find out what is right and wrong, according to God's will? We must understand, that when a person is born again, their flesh does not change, their self will does not change, it must be retrained by God's word. I Tim 4:16 "Take heed unto yourself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this you shall both save yourself, and them that hear you." John 8:31-32, God's truth is God's word, his doctrine, his will on every subject..and Jesus said, if you continue in the word, the word or God's truth will set you free...John 17:17 Because God's word is his will, no one can say, "you never know what God will do." He has it in the book, If all else fails...Read it again Sam. You will eventually get what God is saying, how to apply it, and you will have had your exercise.. Heb 5:13-14 For every one that uses milk is UNSKILFUL in THE WORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS (God himself); for he is a babe: (14) BUT strong meat (God’s word on every subject) belongs to them that are of full age (mature in God and his word, his will), even those who BY REASON OF USE have their senses exercised to discern both good (i.e. God) and evil (i.e. satan). You don't want a garden of Eden experience where you lose out with God do you? You want a resurrection experience with the risen Lord, Jesus Christ, where you have a win, win, situation eternally. How do you keep a clean body naturally? Do the opposite of Gal 5:18-21. How do you keep a clean body spiritually? Do Gal 5:22-25 Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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4 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155421 | ||
Hi CDBJ, Section: Bible general General question: Difference between Flesh and Spirit, August 5, 2005 Section: Bible general Original Question how is a person to maintain a clean body in relation, to the natural and spirit. I Cor 15:39 All flesh is NOT the same flesh Ask then how many kinds are there? 1. Men 2. beasts 3. fish 4. birds 5. bodies; terresterial 6. celtial..glory; 7. of the sun 8. of the moon 9. of the stars God wants us to be able to compare, see differences, make right choices in what we experience on this earth walk we are taking. To do that he points out all flesh is not the SAME... In speaking of mankind, we know we have a natural body, made of what we call flesh. This flesh to operate has cells, bones, blood, organs, the things needed to run this flesh body. We also are a spiritual "body". I Thes 5:23 God points out there are other kinds of natural bodies and names them. God points out there are different natural glories for each. If you stop and think about what God names and how each thing works, you will discern that glory has to mean the usefulness of any given subject in this context. In another sense, from the spiritual standpoint, flesh is what Paul called it, "for I know that in me, that is, in my flesh is no good thing. (why Paul?)for TO WILL is always present with me." Ro 7:18 Here we see, self-will, is in opposition to God's will, therefore Paul called it (spiritual) flesh. The deeds (or works) of the flesh, are performed by mankinds self-will, not God's will. Gal 5:19 God's will is his written word on every subject. God's word is God's will. If that were not so, why are we reading God's word to find out what is right and wrong, according to God's will? We must understand, that when a person is born again, their flesh does not change, their self will does not change, it must be retrained by God's word. I Tim 4:16 "Take heed unto yourself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this you shall both save yourself, and them that hear you." John 8:31-32, God's truth is God's word, his doctrine, his will on every subject..and Jesus said, if you continue in the word, the word or God's truth will set you free...John 17:17 Because God's word is his will, no one can say, "you never know what God will do." He has it in the book, If all else fails...Read it again Sam. You will eventually get what God is saying, how to apply it, and you will have had your exercise.. Heb 5:13-14 For every one that uses milk is UNSKILFUL in THE WORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS (God himself); for he is a babe: (14) BUT strong meat (God’s word on every subject) belongs to them that are of full age (mature in God and his word, his will), even those who BY REASON OF USE have their senses exercised to discern both good (i.e. God) and evil (i.e. satan). You don't want a garden of Eden experience where you lose out with God do you? You want a resurrection experience with the risen Lord, Jesus Christ, where you have a win, win, situation eternally. How do you keep a clean body naturally? Do the opposite of Gal 5:18-21. How do you keep a clean body spiritually? Do Gal 5:22-25 Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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5 | canonized | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155423 | ||
Obi1Kanobe, Paul the apostle of Jesus Christ, who wrote approximately two thirds of the New Testament under the inspiration of the HOly Spirit, directed by God the Father said this to all mankind. I Cor 16:22 If ANY MAN (that includes all of us human beings)love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. (margin says: cursed of God). If any person puts another person, place, thing or doctrine before the Lord Jesus Christ. Gal 1:8-9 But though we (that included Paul and us), or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that which we have preached to you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. (9) As we said before, so say I now again, If ANY MAN preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you that that you have received (from this Holy Bible, Paul is writing into, by the HOly Spirit of God), let HIM BE ACCURSED. I don't know about anyone else, or what they will do, but as for me, I will stick like glue, to the Holy Bible, God had canoized, which only includes the things written therein that cannot be added to or taken from.. Rev 22:18-19 Jesus testified to the accuracy of the Holy Bible: "For I testify unto EVERY MAN that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If ANY MAN shall add unto these things, God shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book: (19) And if ANY MAN shall take away from the word of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (20) He which testifies these thing says, Surely I Come quickly. Amen." Who was this? John the revelator, said Rev 22:21 "Even so, come, LORD JESUS,." It was the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus himself said, we are not to go to another doctrine, but to the doctrine written by the men recorded in the Holy Bible only, with no additions or subtractions. I can't speak for anyone else, but I believe my Lord Jesus Christ, and another I will not follow. This is by the Authority of the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, that's the highest authority in the universe! Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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6 | canonized | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155424 | ||
Obi1Kanobe, Paul the apostle of Jesus Christ, who wrote approximately two thirds of the New Testament under the inspiration of the HOly Spirit, directed by God the Father said this to all mankind. I Cor 16:22 If ANY MAN (that includes all of us human beings)love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. (margin says: cursed of God). If any person puts another person, place, thing or doctrine before the Lord Jesus Christ. Gal 1:8-9 But though we (that included Paul and us), or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that which we have preached to you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. (9) As we said before, so say I now again, If ANY MAN preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you that that you have received (from this Holy Bible, Paul is writing into, by the HOly Spirit of God), let HIM BE ACCURSED. I don't know about anyone else, or what they will do, but as for me, I will stick like glue, to the Holy Bible, God had canoized, which only includes the things written therein that cannot be added to or taken from.. Rev 22:18-19 Jesus testified to the accuracy of the Holy Bible: "For I testify unto EVERY MAN that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If ANY MAN shall add unto these things, God shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book: (19) And if ANY MAN shall take away from the word of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (20) He which testifies these thing says, Surely I Come quickly. Amen." Who was this? John the revelator, said Rev 22:21 "Even so, come, LORD JESUS,." It was the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus himself said, we are not to go to another doctrine, but to the doctrine written by the men recorded in the Holy Bible only, with no additions or subtractions. I can't speak for anyone else, but I believe my Lord Jesus Christ, and another I will not follow. This is by the Authority of the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, that's the highest authority in the universe! Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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7 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155428 | ||
Hi Mark, All of Romans 1:1-32, in my understanding, is showing the downward "degeneration" of a human being, that is going farther away from God. It was not that they did not know God Ro 1:19, but the issue was, after they realized God exists, by the wrath of God being revealed, they "became vain in their imaginations (i.e. self-will), and their foolish hearts were darkened (turned to hatred, which is satan). Psm 14:1 The fool: has said in HIS HEART there is no God. If a person declares there is no God, from God's viewpoint, that person is a fool. That is where satan works the hardest is to keep mankind from coming to God. John 3:16 We should be asking God all the questions being asked here,James 1:5, and getting the pure truth from the study of God's word,John 17:17, and the revelation from God, James 1:21-22 in that process. Therefore they degenerated into idol worship, whether of their own wisdom, their flesh (natural) earthly appetites, which James 3:14-16, says is "earthly, sensual, devilish, wisdom." or just chose to be a Psm 14:1 person. The second question, as I perceive God's word, we are to go "from glory (understanding) to glory (understanding)" and be made in the image of God's Son Ro 8:29. How does he do this? II Cor 5:17 Therefore, if ANY MAN (that includes all of us) be IN CHRIST, he is a new creature; old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Gal 6:15 For IN CHRIST JESUS neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature (avails it all). This new creature is the spirit of man, created of God, by the new birth of that spirit. I Thes 5:23, We are a spirit, we have a soul, we live in a body (an earth suit, designed for our comparatively short stay on earth. That is, compared to eternity.) No, God does not improve our flesh, that's our job, AFTER salvation only. You cannot work FOR savation, but there is much work on understanding, and becomeing doers of God's word, AFTER we are saved. I use the example of a baby being born into the world. They are helpless, uneducated, demanding, needy, growing, learning, maturing, through many stages of growth. That is how I see the salvation experience, and have experienced the salvation experience. I have come to recognize this is not a 30 second sprint, but a life-long, continual learning, changeing, growing, adjusting to fit God, endeavor. Think about it, when you were a baby you didn't know anything you know now. How did you get from there to here? By the process named above. God will never replace your self will. We must be willing, as Jesus was, and is willing, to be on this earth's surface with this testimony, "I came to do thy will O God." John 4:34, John 6:38 and many more statements of Jesus on this theme. This is testified in Phil 2:5-11 Paul speaking of the example Jesus left us to follow, Let this mind be in you...it is a matter of you "letting" or choosing to think like Jesus, speak like Jesus and do like Jesus AFTER you asked him to save you. There’s a difference between before and after! How do you do that? Read everything he said. Know that is who you are and what you are supposed to be doing, follow his example in every area of your life, and when God gets through with you, you'll be his exact image! Think you can't get there from where you are? That's no biggie for God. God is bigger than what's the matter, he is able (fit and qualified) to do exceedingly abundantly above ALL we ask or think. Eph 3:20-21 So just THINK BIG, don't limit God by what you think he can or will do. Just always base it on what he says we can have. If he doesn't say we can have it, we don't need it anyway. But just know, there are tons of stuff in the Bible for believers. If you are a believer, quit reading those things written to unbelievers. Say this to yourself, "I am in Christ, he is my head, I am his body Eph 1:22-23, therefore because my head is a believer, his body, (which is me),is a believer. I, as his body, have everything my head has." Don't believe that? Want a scripture for it? John 16:15 Jesus, our head, said, "All things that the Father has are mine: therefore said I, that he (the Holy Spirit) will take of mine (all the Father has), and shall SHOW IT UNTO YOU." Didn’t it just say he is our head and we are his body? Does your body go anywhere without your head? Or vise versa? No? Jesus and his body are the same way. C.S.M. see next post |
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8 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155429 | ||
According to Jesus, he owns and has access to, everything that God has. Most people do not have a problem with that statement. But he didn't stop there. Jesus said, you have the same access to God that he has. Mind boggeling? Yes! But I didn't say it, the Lord Jesus said it. He knows, and revealed it unto the body of Christ, if they only believe what he said. Without giving you what God has showed to me, go to God yourself and ask him to show you everything he has for you as a believer. Be ready to run to keep up with him, because he will do what you ask in this area. After he shows you some things you didn't know before, let me know, what you have In Christ, through Christ, with Christ, by Christ and many other such statements in the New Testament. Happy hunting.... Always In Christ, |
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9 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155488 | ||
Hello to you CDBJ, Not at all. I realize that as an “earth walker”, we as humans are spirit, soul and body I Thes 5:23. We are a three part being, and God revealed that to us in his word, in my understanding, so that we could “rightly divide the word of truth” II Tim 2:15, in this area also. We understand that the spirit of man is eternal, it is in God’s image. John 4:24 “God is a Spirit”...it is his image! In fact that is why all spirits, saved or lost, will live forever. God is “The” eternal Spirit that created all spirits, so all spirits live forever, even satan and his demons according to the word. Saved spirits live forever in heaven, lost spirits live forever in hell. When the spirit of man leaves the natural body, we say the person “died”. From the natural standpoint, from our view naturally, the physical body no longer has “life” or the Spirit of the Eternal God ,John 1:4, within it, so it dies and decays. In other words, God is the source of all life, light, matter etc. yes, the spirit can be seperated from the body, and is, in a persons death. The soul, (the mind, will and emotions) are in tact with the spirit, otherwise the rich man in hell could not have known Lazarus, called out to Abraham to send him with water..etc.Luke 16:20-25, but we are aware the body “dies”while we are on this earth. The good news? Eph 1:14 speaks of “the redemption of the purchased possession” and Ro 8:23 speaks of “the redemption of our body” being the “adoption” spoken of in Ephe 1:5 It is the natural body which is in the “bondage of corruption (i.e. natural death)” Ro 8:21, 25 and it further states “we patiently wait for it” meaning the redemption of our natural bodies to incorruptible bodies. You will see this when you read the portions noted in context and ask the Lord to reveal it to you. Christ not only died to save our human spirits, but for our natural bodies at the resurrection, at the last trump, didn’t he. I Cor 15:50-57. It’s a win, win situation!! Is your profile in the record. I looked and I do not see that portion of the program on the site. I’m sure I’m overlooking it.. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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10 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155561 | ||
Hi Msbea, Jesus in Luke 11:37-44, was addressing the inward, hidden, wickedness of the "so called" (of themselves the) religious elete. These are those who like to play a religious game with people, but inwardly, Jesus saw and continues to see everyones heart, or inward parts. He knows how everyone thinks, not just how they speak. However, Jesus also admonished the multitudes and his disciples, concerning these leaders in another way because they "sit in Moses' seat". Teaching God's word, ways, means, and directions. Matt 23:1-3 The Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses' seat" (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you OBSERVE (out of God's word), that observe and do; but do not you AFTER THEIR WORKS: for they SAY and DO NOT. James 1:22 But be you DOERS of the WORD (of God) and not just hearers only, deceiveing your own selves... (only the doers are just before God Ezek 18:5) He is revealing to all mankind throughout all ages that it is not what anyone does or says, that is impressive to mankind, that will count with God, it is the motive and intent of the heart, or inward parts, from which that person is motivated. These were "leaders" that were self absorbed, holier than thou, motivated, and as Jesus said were hypocrites. What is a hypocrite? One who says the right things, but does not do what God says is the right things, through his written word. In addressing sin (or opposition to God and his word) to the Jews on every level Paul put it clearly... Ro 2:28 For he is NOT a Jew (from God's viewpoint), which is one outwardly: neither is that circumcision, which is outward "in the flesh": (29) But he is a Jew, (both natural and spiritually) which is one inwardly: and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; (The key?) Whose praise is NOT of men, but of God." This is in essence, the guist, of how God see's every person. If a person is a people pleaser, a self pleaser, a world pleaser, they will not be pleasing to God. The focus of every persons life must, according to these scriptures, be "am I pleasing to God?", "Am I obeying God?" Paul addressed this, by the Holy Spirits guidance, to reveal to us personally, how to determine if we are fooling ourselves in our walk with the Lord. No one "can" know how clean anyone else's temple is, the only one they can truely know is themselves, and how they are obeying God, in the fullness of the knowledge that they have of God and his word. Paul let them off the hook, slightly, Ro 3:1-2 and then said (3) "let" God be true (truth), but every man a liar; as it is WRITTEN, that you might be justified (freed) in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged. That takes in all mankind, when he said "every man" that is including one's self. In other words God knows everything about everything and everyone, he is our source, we are not our source of information, clealiness, or any other subject. It is he that has saved us, and not we ourselves. Therefore, we cannot focus on any other person, place or thing for our information, edification, or redemption. God will take care of the cleaning and the undefilement of your temple, which is your body with your cooperation, wisdom, and obedience to him. I Cor 6:19-20 What? Know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which you have of God , and you are not your own? (20) For you are bought with a price: (the sacrifice of Jesus Christ) therefore glorify God in your body, AND in your spirit which are God's (personal property.) Things that can defile are those things stated in God's word, that he says defile, such as Gal 5:19-21. That is not the only things but are some of the things. If you have a concordance, look up the word defile and read the word of God on that subject. He will enlighten your understanding of this subject. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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11 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155562 | ||
Hi Doc, Trichotomy (division into three parts) Parellelism (relation or position) Onotlogical (being, existence, reality) Are we trying to communicate to all or mask what we are saying? This is not to condemn, but I never see Jesus using the personal understanding he has to communicate to folks. He could bowl us all over with his understandings and no one could possibly get what he was saying! He uses the weak, beggerly elements to confound the wise. So everyone can understand, please use simple words when you communicate. Thank you and God's best to you. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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12 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155564 | ||
Hi Doc, I Cor 9:27 "I" (the real Paul, his spirit) keep under my body, and bring "it" (my body) into subjection: Paul is saying his spirit must control his body and it's lusts and desires. James 2:16 warns about what we must resist, "all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." Who's going to keep you from doing this, God? No, it's up to you to recognize, and resist it. I Peter 5:8-9 tells believers "Be sober, be vigilant; because YOUR adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour; (9) whom (you) resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your breathen that are in the world (system of thought, word and deed)." John 4:24 Because God is a Spirit and we're made in his image Gen 1:27, it is reasonable to conclude that we are a spirit. Even from the natural standpoint, we know we have a mind, a will and emotions, and scripture teaches Ro 1:20 The invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are (already) made (and we understand naturally), even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they (all mankind) are without excuse. God makes the natural things we understand and compares them to the supernatural and spiritual things he understands, there fore it is another way God is able to communicate his life and life-style to uneducated, limited, mankind (that's all of us, in comparison to God). That's why it is written, "the Holy Ghost teaches" How? comparing spiritual things with spiritual. I Cor 2:13 and that discernment comes spiritually, from the Holy Spirit. II Cor 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. Paul said, including himself in the statement, "if any man think that he knows any thing, he knows nothing yet as he OUGHT to know." I Cor 8:2 Where does that put all the rest of mankind? Personally, I find the more I learn, the more I realize all the things I don't know, and how gracious God is for sharing what I can absorb, slightly. He saw I didn't have sense enough to come in out of the rain and he helps me, daily. We understand we have a body, if no other way except we see it daily! How can anyone say, the word doesn't mean what it says, when Paul, through the Holy Spirit said, "I pray God your whole spirit, and soul and body, be preserved blameless, unto the coming of the Lord." I Thes 5:23 If I can count, he names three parts..that makes up each individual person, for all ages and all times, according as it is written in God's word we are a three part being. I agree to disagree with your assertion that we are not three part beings. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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13 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155726 | ||
Hi Doc, I Cor 9:27 doesn't mention the will, only the body. Who is the, I, Paul is talking about? His spirit or his body? I don't see where you can conclude the will is implied? What is the scriptural basis? You are right,James 2:16 was not the correct scripture, the reference was I JOhn 2:16 so that would be confusing :) Yes, we do disagree as to the two part or three part being. All of God's word has to be considered in coming to conclusions and not just isolated parts, he knows more than all mankind put together and he is the revelator. I Thes 5:23 No one should have, and I know I did not have presuppositions. I came to my conclusions by study of the word. I had no clue mankind was spirit, soul and body, until I read it. Pre-suppositions come from lack of truth and Jesus identified the source of truth as God's word, not mankinds suppositions. John 17:17 That's good enough for me. Ro 1:20 What are the invisible things of him? Isn't it the spirit realm, the Holy Spirit, Heaven, hell, mankinds spirit (which is the image of God John 4:24, since God is a Spirit), thoughts of the innermost being of man. Actually I think we are of the same understanding on that issue. I don't know any Greeks or gnostic's :) don't know what they think so it couldn't be a hang-over. I Cor 2:13 is the heart of the New Testament teaching starting from John 1:33, John 14:26, 17, Acts 2:4, 33, 39, and many others as the purpose of the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit himself. Of course he teaches truth, so that is God's word, but he also give the revelation and understanding of this truth. I John 2:27 But the anointing which you have received of him (God the Father) abides in you, and you need NOT that ANY MAN teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie and even as it (or he) has taught you, you shall abide in him. Who do you say is the anointing? Where does the anointing come from? Who is the source of the anointing? Is it a someone, or just a something in your opinion? We know the natural anointing oil was used in the Old Testament, I realize the anointing is truth, as this verse says, but I also know Jesus is the truth, John 14:6, the Holy Spirit is the truth, John 16:13, and God's word, both living, written and spoken is truth. John 17:17. The truth is what we're after, so what is it, who is it, where is it, and who has it in your opinion? II Cor 10:12 seems to me to be a warning to all people who think they have all the answers of both the Spiritual and natural things as the examples from the previous scriptures (I Cor 10:1-12) that the Holy Spirit through Paul was explaining, for all mankind to read and take heed. verse 11 Now all these things happened to them for examples; and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. In reading what those folks did, they thought they had it all together and God said no they didn't. You do agree that man is both spiritual and physical (or natural)? Isn't it a fact that none of us know it all? II Cor 10:12 What that says to me from a personal level and in my walk with God is don't compare yourself with others. The way I view it is God gives each person their own things to accomplish for him. They are different and according to what he has given us, whether talents or whatever, specifically. If we look at someone else in the body of Christ and think they are doing more or less than we are, in either case, we would not be wise. As Paul continued he did not stretch himself beyond "our measure"...we each have what God wants us to do. Don't try to do the other persons job.. I realize some of these issues are considered by some as side issues to the original subject. I don't feel anything is a side issue and that all issues of life are connected in some way as a whole. See next note |
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14 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155727 | ||
My personal experience has been, there is an extreme that is in the ditch on one side of the road, and another in the ditch on the other. I'd just rather walk in the middle of the road with Jesus and stay out of the extreme of the ditches. I Cor 8:2 The point here is, the Holy Spirit know specifically and can teach specifically each person on their level of understanding, man can't do that, even though they may or may not have many letters behind their name that man has put there because they agree with them. That is not to put down education from the natural standpoint, it's necessary, but when it concerns spiritual things, the Holy Spirit is "The Guide into all the truth," not learned or unlearned mankind. Sorry, the thought was it had answered with the scripture given. It is understood you agree to disagree About I Thes 5:23, but until God erases it, I still believe it. Didn't realize I could go on the lecture tours :) Don't change your belief for me, that's not important, just do it if God tells you to. Pompous? no. Dogmatic? Truth is always dogmatic. Perhaps the pontificating comes from both directions, with each perspective. Hope you got to class on time Professor. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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15 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155728 | ||
Best authoritative reference? The Bible itself interpreted by the Holy Spirit. That's then excellent research. Seems mans interpretation is what got the Jews off in left field with God :) Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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16 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155729 | ||
Hi Mark, My point exactly, the written word itself is big enough to answer for the Living Word himself. John 1:1-4, Rev 19:13 Jesus is the one who was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and his name is called the Word of God. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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17 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155730 | ||
Hi Mark, My point exactly, the written word itself is big enough to answer for the Living Word himself. John 1:1-4, Rev 19:13 Jesus is the one who was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and his name is called the Word of God. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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18 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155735 | ||
Reminds me of this guy :) A minister dies and is waiting in line at the Pearly Gates. Ahead of him is this guy who's dressed in sunglasses, a T-shirt, leather jacket and jeans. St Peter asks this guy. "Who are you, so I may know whether or not to admit you into the Kingdom of Heaven?" "I'm Joe Cohen, taxi driver, of New York city" St Peter consults his list... smiles and says "Take this silken robe and enter the Kingdom of Heaven.... The minister stands erect and booms out.. "I'm Joseph Snow, pastor of the Second Baptist Church for the last forty-three years" St. Peter consults his list again and says to the minister, "Take this cotton robe and enter the Kingdom of Heaven."... Just a minute says the minister The taxi driver gets a silken robe, How can that be?"... "Up here we work on results" says Saint Peter. "While you preached, people slept. While He drove, people prayed". |
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19 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155795 | ||
Hi Hank, Problem is, you can't stand to straight in the ditches. I didn't say the doctrine was wishy washy, I said the solid road bed of truth is where Jesus walks, not in the to much ditch, or the to little ditch. A lop side ball doesn't roll to well either. I just love your Arkansas lingo, it's so cute. God loves you Hank.... and I love you In Christ.... Always in Christ and His Love, C.S.M. |
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20 | clean body natural and spiritual | Bible general Archive 2 | C.S.M. | 155816 | ||
Dear Doc, My understanding of Presuppose or presupposition was to take for granted; assume to start with. One could say, everyone does have a basic belief system, true or false. This is evidenced in the lifestyles of people and the view of what is good and what is evil. Mr Hendryx made the statement "It is a view that places the Christian world-view and it's basic assumptions over against the non-Christian world-view and basic assumptions!" I agree whole heartedly, and in that sense, believe :)Christians could all agree. Using it in the sense of basic belief systems and the knowledge of "actual" truth from God through his word. what was attempted to be said was all mankind has to deal with challenging the "reality" they have been taught by the world, people, and the interferring influence of "the god of this world" (system of thought, word and deeds). This only tended to mix up Adam and Eve when they took another's word, instead of Gods word, and acted on it. Of course there is the other deceiver as James 1:22 states, that after one knows truth, they do not do the truth. Isn't that what Adam and Eve did, deceived themselves? Isn't it what each of us do in our lack of understanding of God completely? I may not have made myself clear, as I did not intend to imply that it is intuitively obvious to every, or all man(-kind), that the composition is three parts. Actually the exact opposite was the intent. It is not intuitively obvious, it can only come through the study of God's word for oneself. I am so glad God has put his word above all philosopy, my pastor calls it philosophooey :) Please don't send me ugly letters, I didn't say it, he did! It is a given that there are philosophys, but only one truth, God's word. Dogmatic, right? Ro 12:2 "And be not conformed to this world (one might say: philosophies): but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that 1) good 2) and acceptable 3) and perfect will of God. Hmmmm the will of God is in three levels also! The one I most want to agree with is: 1)God the Father, 2) God the Son and 3) God the Holy Spirit, don't you wish everybody did? I John 5:7 Thank you for your kind answer. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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