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1 | Sinless perfectionism? | John 3:16 | welldigger | 65376 | ||
With regard to Romans 7:25: There are two of everything. One is natural, earthly, carnal, visible, physical, and temporal, like your flesh body and flesh mind. And the other is spiritual, heavenly, eternal, and invisible, like your spiritual body and spiritual mind, which is basically your soul. The Holy Spirit is like your coupon for the righteousness of Jesus on your SOUL, not your flesh. And we are to have faith that God WILL accept and “honour” that coupon. But you will not get to actually “cash in” that coupon you are trusting in, until the end of the world when the coupon is actually exchanged and the redeeming transaction completed. NOT AS THOUGH I HAD ALREADY ATTAINED, EITHER WERE ALREADY PERFECT [[even though he IS already perfect, by the righteousness of God/Jesus]]: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, **AS MANY AS BE PERFECT** [[those who are trusting in the perfection of their soul that God already performed 2002 years ago through the sacrfice of Jesus]], be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Nevertheless, WHERETO **WE HAVE ALREADY ATTAINED** [[our souls already HAVE ATTAINED, because of what Jesus did 2002 years ago]], let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. (Philippians 3:12-16) What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, **HAVE ATTAINED TO RIGHTEOUSNESS** [[on our SOULS, because of the sacrifice of Jesus]], EVEN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS OF FAITH. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? [[why?]] BECAUSE THEY SOUGHT IT NOT BY FAITH [[not trusting in the righteousness of God being put on their soul by the sacrifice of Jesus]], BUT AS IT WERE BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW [[by trying to be “good” in the flesh, trying to keep the law in the flesh or with their flesh body and flesh mind to please God]]. FOR THEY STUMBLED AT THAT STUMBLINGSTONE; As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. (Romans 9:30-33) Which is precisely what Paul was talking about in: I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then WITH THE MIND I MYSELF SERVE THE LAW OF GOD [[with the soul, the spiritual body and spiritual mind]]; BUT WITH THE FLESH THE LAW OF SIN. [[the natural earthly flesh body and flesh mind]] (Romans 7:25) Because, when God puts His righteousness from Jesus onto you, He doesn’t put it on your FLESH body and FLESH mind, but He puts it on YOUR SOUL, your spiritual body and spiritual mind: Therefore BY THE DEEDS OF THE LAW THERE SHALL **NO FLESH** BE JUSTIFIED IN HIS SIGHT: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now **THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD WITHOUT THE LAW** [[perfect righteousness of Jesus on your soul without having to try to keep the law with the flesh body and flesh mind]] is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even **THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD** which is by faith of Jesus Christ UNTO ALL AND **UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE**: [[upon their flesh? NO, but upon their SOUL, YES!!!]] for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare **HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS** FOR THE REMISSION OF **SINS THAT ARE PAST**, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith WITHOUT THE DEEDS OF THE LAW. [[without having to try to keep the law in or with the flesh body and flesh mind]] (Romans 3:20-28) |
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2 | Sinless perfectionism? | John 3:16 | welldigger | 65375 | ||
I appreciate your concern. It is good to ask questions about this, so He can show us the answers. I had to do the same, before He made me to understand, as we all do. With regard to 1 John 1:8, I am not saying that I do not have any sin, I did commit many many sins in the past, when I was in ignorance of what God would be pleased with. Thank God, Jesus paid for them by the sacrifice of Himself, according to the scriptures: By the which will we are sanctified **THROUGH THE OFFERING OF THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST** once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after **HE HAD OFFERED ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS** for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; (Hebrews 10:10-12) Only by the mercy of God, those sins are covered by the righteousness of Jesus, the blood of Jesus according to what the scriptures say: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom **WE HAVE REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD, EVEN THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**: (Colossians 1:13-14) Those past sins are redeemed and covered by His blood, by His righteousness, by His sacrifice, so that God will never "see" those any more. However, they are redeemed by promise. That is, the Holy Spirit reveals the knowledge of the PROMISE from God that, because of the sacrifice of Jesus, He will not hold us accountable for those past sins at the end of the world. They do remain there, covered, until the actual redemption of the purchased possession at the end of this world: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, YE WERE SEALED WITH THAT HOLY SPIRIT ***OF PROMISE***, ***WHICH IS THE EARNEST [[guarantee from God]] OF OUR INHERITANCE UNTIL THE REDEMPTION OF THE PURCHASED POSSESSION***, unto the praise of his glory. (Ephesians 1:13-14) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed ***UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION***. (Ephesians 4:30) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; **FOR YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH.** (Luke 21:27-28) But that's the thing, God cannot lie, so His promise is sure, and we just have to believe His promise, believe Him. If we have that faith toward God, that faith will save our soul from hell, because He is faithful that promised. It's a yes and no with God (as are almost all things from Him). So, the actual redemption from God will be at the end of the world, but we already have redemption in the following sense: God already did the work, and promised to us that redemption at the end of the world, and God cannot lie. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, ***WAITING FOR THE ADOPTION, TO WIT, THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY.*** FOR WE ARE SAVED BY HOPE: BUT HOPE THAT IS SEEN IS NOT HOPE: FOR WHAT A MAN SEETH, WHY DOTH HE YET HOPE FOR? BUT IF WE HOPE FOR THAT WE SEE NOT, THEN DO WE WITH PATIENCE WAIT FOR IT. (Romans 8:23-25) So, yes, we already have redemption, in that, He already paid the payment that covered our pasts sins committed when we were “in ignorance”. And He makes known to us the promise of the actual redemption to come, by the Holy Spirit, and if one believes that promise from God, then, by faith, that person is already redeemed (because God cannot lie). But also, no, we won’t actually be redeemed until the end of the world. |
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3 | You didn't "go on sinning"? | John 3:16 | welldigger | 65101 | ||
I ask EdB these things and bring these scriptures to his attention because God showed me something awhile back that I had never seen before. I believed very similarly to the way you all do now. But He showed me that what I was believing was a lie, and then He showed me the truth. Please consider these things, because if you see the same things He showed me, then I want you to allow Him to show you the rest of what He showed me. It’s truly priceless. I am just asking EdB questions. If his answers to those questions dig a hole, is that my fault? God says plainly in Hebrews 10:26 that He does not forgive sins committed when you know better. EdB said that he has committed such sins. Where does that leave EdB? In a hole? Did I write the scriptures? Did I make EdB commit sin when he knew better? If I walk by and EdB is in a hole, but doesn't know it, does EdB not want to know he is in a hole??? If EdB is walking toward a cliff, but doesn't know it, does EdB not want to be alerted to that fact? God tells me that if I see a “sword coming”, I’m supposed to “blow the trumpet”. And if I don’t, that MY soul will be in jeopardy: Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. But IF THE WATCHMAN SEE THE SWORD COME, AND BLOW NOT THE TRUMPET, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THE WATCHMAN'S HAND. (Ezekiel 33:2-6) EdB said "We should have a desire to draw nearer to God". When is it that EdB was planning on doing that? When is it that EdB was planning on ceasing from committing sin? When is EdB planning to "abstain from things that aren't" "righteousness" and "holiness"? EdB said "Does that mean we will never sin, no..." Evaluate for yourself, does that agree with these scriptures? WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST IS BORN OF GOD: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. (1 John 5:1) Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and HE CANNOT SIN, because he is born of God. (1 John 3:9) |
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4 | What about John 14:15? | John 3:16 | welldigger | 63948 | ||
I was asking about John 14:15 with regard to the initial question "What should a person do to please God so that God will allow that person's soul to go to heaven (have eternal life) as opposed to sending that soul to hell (eternal death)?". That is, if a person doesn't love Jesus, it seems reasonable to me that God would not allow that person's soul to go to heaven, or have eternal life, enter into life, inherit eternal life, etc. Let me explain what I'm talking about also by the scriptures: The Word is Jesus and Jesus was God according to the scripture in John 1:1-17. And Jesus therefore is one with God by this scripture: For there are three that bear record in heaven, THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. (1 John 5:7) So, if Jesus and God are one, when God said something, Jesus said it, and when Jesus said something, God said it. This is also stated in this scripture: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU I SPEAK NOT OF MYSELF: BUT THE FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS. (John 14:10) So, if Jesus says “keep my commandments”, as in John 14:15 (among others), then “my” refers to God’s commandments, which are also Jesus’ commandments, and Jesus’ commandments, which are also God’s commandments, because Jesus is one with God. Now, in John 14:15, Jesus/God gives us a command in a logic statement, and God cannot lie, that “IF” a person loves Jesus/God, to keep Jesus’/God’s commandments. Logically, if someone does NOT keep the commandments, then they do not love Jesus/God. Now I am no brain surgeon, but I have trouble believing that if someone does not love God’s only begotten Son that God sent out of love toward the world, to save or redeem the world, and that person being one of the ones in the world, that God would allow that person’s soul to go to heaven (or have eternal life). Hope that helps to clear up what I was asking about. |
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